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Re: 2023: Why South-East Can’t Get Presidential Ticket - Kalu Replies Clark by Tochj(m): 9:27pm On May 12, 2022
diplomat058:


Stop saying rubbish and rewriting history dubiously.

Alex Ekwueme contested against OBJ in the primaries. And what's the electoral worth of Onu again? you must be joking

Stop being a crybaby. Its pathetic!
Onu won primary as App candidate
Falae won as AD candidate
App and AD merged
Then Onu conceded to Falae
That's the truth
Re: 2023: Why South-East Can’t Get Presidential Ticket - Kalu Replies Clark by Tochj(m): 9:34pm On May 12, 2022
Ilaje1:


I want to believe you were a kid in 1999 that you didn't witness the election else you would have remembered Obasanjo, obasanjo, obasanjo, Ekwueme, Obasanjo etc. when they were counting the votes. Alibaba even made a joke out of it. In essence, Ekwueme contested against OBJ. While APP and AD did what ACN and CPC did to APC.
I wasn't a kid
I was about 18 in 1999
After primaries
Ekwueme and entire igbos supported OBJ.
Onu have the right to contest but supported Falae
Again Falae was many yoruba people choice
Yoruba people saw obj as a northern choice.
Re: 2023: Why South-East Can’t Get Presidential Ticket - Kalu Replies Clark by Tochj(m): 9:37pm On May 12, 2022
drlateef:



Who told you that. I just read report from Falae where he said Onu contested and lost the election to him. OBJ was not a Southwest candidate. He was imposed on us by north and southeast. That’s why he lost in southwest.
They weren't in the same party
How can he defeat Onu
Onu was in APP while
Falae was in AD
Re: 2023: Why South-East Can’t Get Presidential Ticket - Kalu Replies Clark by drlateef: 9:39pm On May 12, 2022
Tochj:

They weren't in the same party
How can he defeat Onu
Onu was in APP while
Falae was in AD


No Igbo man stepped down for Falae, it’s all a lie.

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Re: 2023: Why South-East Can’t Get Presidential Ticket - Kalu Replies Clark by Tochj(m): 9:40pm On May 12, 2022
Drealtitan1:


Ekwueme did not support OBJ in 1999. Ekwueme ran against OBJ and OBJ defeated him in the primaries. Obasanjo won 60% while Ekwueme won 20%. And Onu did concede his ticket to Falae,he was asked to drop for Shinkafi due to alliance between APP and AD. Onu won APP primaries and Falae won AD primaries.
Who asked him
Was he forced?
If he wants to contest
Nobody ll stop him
He is a full party candidate.

Re: 2023: Why South-East Can’t Get Presidential Ticket - Kalu Replies Clark by Tochj(m): 9:43pm On May 12, 2022
drlateef:



No Igbo man stepped down for Falae, it’s all a lie.
If Onu didn't step down
Why is he not in ballot
Re: 2023: Why South-East Can’t Get Presidential Ticket - Kalu Replies Clark by Menace2Society(m): 9:53pm On May 12, 2022
stanluiz:
Na una business be dat! All we know is that we have voted for a South West candidate.

Obasanjo was not Yoruba choice, but SW voted for him and gave him massive vote in 2003. You guys should have voted him out and vote for buhari or ojukwu that contested along side with him to show the world that truly Obasanjo was not choice.

But you went back to your vomit and still vote for the so called Not Yoruba choice cheesy

See as una dey decieve una self. Una hypocrisy no get part 2.
Go siddon IPOB man.There was never a time the south east supported the south west for president, they are always supporting their Northern masters.

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Re: 2023: Why South-East Can’t Get Presidential Ticket - Kalu Replies Clark by mysy013(m): 10:06pm On May 12, 2022
Abaribe did the same by throwing support for Atiku a northerner. Oga igbos are just foolish and confuse simple
PHIPEX:
This Kalu should close his mouth, am so ashamed of him. Anyways, he he can't stop a moving train.

Yes he is right to say our neighbours betrayed our goodwill but that's not enough to openly throw support to a northern candidate at this time.
Re: 2023: Why South-East Can’t Get Presidential Ticket - Kalu Replies Clark by NSK4U(m): 10:19pm On May 12, 2022
Peacecore:
Though Kalu should've waited to know if any S/Ener would pick the ticket but Clark should've called out Abaribe and Ikpazu when they openly declared support for Atiku and Wike respectively.


No, he did and said the right thing that we are wiser. When South West governors and leaders were busy organizing meeting up and down for southern president, some of us were not moved because we had seen it as their usual betraying plan. I said it earlier
Re: 2023: Why South-East Can’t Get Presidential Ticket - Kalu Replies Clark by NSK4U(m): 10:22pm On May 12, 2022
mysy013:
Abaribe did the same by throwing support for Atiku a northerner. Oga igbos are just foolish and confuse simple

Leave them for us, our leaders are wiser now, those of you who are not foolish and confused should meet all contestants on the field
Re: 2023: Why South-East Can’t Get Presidential Ticket - Kalu Replies Clark by Jahwinaboy(m): 10:22pm On May 12, 2022
Legendforte:

But in 2014/2015, the entire southeast threw their weight behind jonathan from southsouth embarrasing their own aspirants.
Yes but it was obvious that GEJ was on seat. Moreover, the southeast needs to push otherwise, no show. Clark is just one voice. More forces, alliances and pressure are needed
Re: 2023: Why South-East Can’t Get Presidential Ticket - Kalu Replies Clark by FuckOsuPigs: 10:24pm On May 12, 2022
drlateef:
It’s a lie. At no time has southeast ever supported the southwest. The voting results are there as evidence.

He wasn't referring to the Southwest. He was referring to the Southeast. The zone supported Jonathan in 2011 and 2015 overwhelmingly but what do they get in return? An Amaechi, a Wike, a Silva, an Emefiele, et al coming out to declare for presidency when they should be adopting a Southeastern candidate.

But wetin concern me, the Eebos are politically naive but would not want to agree. That's what will make them languish in political wilderness for long.

They need to learn

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Re: 2023: Why South-East Can’t Get Presidential Ticket - Kalu Replies Clark by ebufa: 10:54pm On May 12, 2022
Alexis11:


The guy was just telling you that Igbos and Yorubas have never been on the same page politically. You only voted for Obasanjo because he was contesting against another Yoruba man, Olu Falae who was obviously the SW choice.

Igbos voted Shagari against Awolowo in 1979 and Tofa against Abiola in 1993.






Its good to know we are not one politically and otherwise, it is always good to know the person you are going into battle with..............in case of ''suspicious friendly fire''!
When a man says yes.......his personal god has no choice but to say yes also! God will grant us the wish of self-determination so that we can handle our own affairs and he will grant it..Amen!.....too many brave young men have paid the supreme price! We will free our land!
Re: 2023: Why South-East Can’t Get Presidential Ticket - Kalu Replies Clark by samesta(m): 12:24am On May 13, 2022
drlateef:
It’s a lie. At no time has southeast ever supported the southwest. The voting results are there as evidence.
Are you sure? Is Obasanjo not a South west man? I expected you to state the obvious that the south west had never supported the south easterners.
Re: 2023: Why South-East Can’t Get Presidential Ticket - Kalu Replies Clark by samesta(m): 12:31am On May 13, 2022
Alexis11:


The guy was just telling you that Igbos and Yorubas have never been on the same page politically. You only voted for Obasanjo because he was contesting against another Yoruba man, Olu Falae who was obviously the SW choice.

Igbos voted Shagari against Awolowo in 1979 and Tofa against Abiola in 1993.

Igbos voted Obasanjo ( a Yoruba man) against Ojukwu( an Igbo man) in 2003.
Re: 2023: Why South-East Can’t Get Presidential Ticket - Kalu Replies Clark by Zeezenho: 1:19am On May 13, 2022
Freedom34:
You are trying to be clever by half!

Its like you helping my competitor/enemy in a do-or-die affair and u turn around to say I'm ungrateful for not thanking u for helping my 'brother.'


Everybody nor be fuul nah!

We resemble ipob for ya aiz?
cool

Now I get if Obasanjo is Yoruba people's enemy as you just affirmed, then you guys situation is hopeless.how then can I, an Igbo man build bridge with someone that sees their most successful son as their enemy.
Re: 2023: Why South-East Can’t Get Presidential Ticket - Kalu Replies Clark by Tzar(m): 1:32am On May 13, 2022
Who else was on the ballot? Would they have voted for Falae the SW candidate or OBJ, the Northern candidate?!
The SW know the hatred the SE have for them. The SW is eternally willing and able to reciprocate the evil the SE has been extending towards the SW.

ebufa:





Obasanjo they voted for 1989 and 2003 is apparently from the moon abi? Oga, do not underestimate the treachery you Yorubas are capable of!

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Re: 2023: Why South-East Can’t Get Presidential Ticket - Kalu Replies Clark by Mrnairalandd: 1:41am On May 13, 2022
ebufa:





Obasanjo they voted for 1989 and 2003 is apparently from the moon abi? Oga, do not underestimate the treachery you Yorubas are capable of!

Bounce off you fucking slowpoke! In 1960s you fuvking snakes called Igbos went into alliance with the North and voted against the Yoruba party led by Awolowo! Yorubas didn’t become bitter like you Igbos, they moved on as an opposition party. 2nd republic came like the first one, Igbos formed another political alliance with the North again against the Yorubas again, Ekwueme became the Vice President while Yorubas became the opposition party. We are used to Igbos’ betrayal since independence but Yorubas ll always outsmart you lowlives

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Re: 2023: Why South-East Can’t Get Presidential Ticket - Kalu Replies Clark by johntolu: 2:49am On May 13, 2022
obilokechukwu:

Na only igbo trib i dey see no co-operation. When hausa/fulani want to become president yoruba, hausa and igbo jointed voter enter. Now yoruba want to enter both tribes go voter enter. Where is igbo president since 1960 independence. This is tribalism. Any igbo political leaders that want the office presidence will not get it in this country. The best winsdom is for you to channel your mind to get biafran as nnadi kanu did. This man that called nnadi kanu is a wise political igbo leader that want the best for igbo people. Igbo man, this is best time to get biafran. Yoruba and hausa fulani do not mean well for you. They are tribalism in nature.

I quite understand the bitterness and frustration captured in your post.
Prior to the event of January 1966, the Igbos were occupying very important posts and positions in every sphere of government in Nigeria.
The Igbos should do a 'soul search' and an honest self criticism of what happened on January 15th, 1966 if they are honestly interested in addressing the reason for the lack of trust of Igbos, by other political blocks and ethnic groups, in Nigeria.

The write up below, might provide an insight to the reasons why the Igbos are facing discrimination, in Nigeria.

Background to discrimination against the Igbos in Nigeria.

The events took place in the context of military coups d'etat and in the prelude to the Nigerian Civil War. The perceived lack of Igbo humility has been identified as one of the factors that sparked the pogroms, resulting in popular hostility toward the Igbos.
The immediate precursor to the massacres was the January 1966 Nigerian coup d'etat led mostly by young Igbo officers. Most of the politicians and senior army officers killed by them were northerners, including the Prime Minister Abubakar Tafawa Balewa and Ahmadu Bello, the Sardauna of Sokoto.
Aguiyi-Ironsi then assumed power, forcing the civilian government to cede authority. He established a military government led by himself as supreme commander.
In the months following the coup, it was widely noted that four of the five army Majors who executed the coup were Igbo and that the General who took over power was also Igbo. It was feared that the Igbo had set out to take control of the country and in Northern Nigeria, the fear of Igbo dominance, became intense.
On 29 July, 1966 Northern military officers carried out a counter coup in which 240 Southern officers and men, three-quarters of whom were Igbo, including Ironsi, as well as thousands of civilians of southern origin, living in the North, were systematically killed.
In the aftermath, Yakubu Gowon, a Northerner, assumed command of the military government. It is with this background that increasing ethnic rivalries led to further massacres. The massacres were widely spread in the north and peaked on the 29 May, 29 July and 29 September, 1966. By the time the pogrom ended, virtually all Igbos living in Northern Nigeria were either killed, hiding among sympathetic Northerners or on their way to the Eastern region. The massacres were led by the Nigerian Army and replicated in various Northern Nigerian cities.
Although Colonel Gowon was issuing guarantees of safety to Southern Nigerians living in the North, the intention of a large portion of the Nigerian Army at the time, was genocidal as was the common racist rhetoric among Tiv, Idoma, Hausa and other Northern Nigerian tribes.
With the exception of few Northern Nigerians, mostly army officers, who were convinced that the Igbo were not innately evil, the Southern and Eastern Nigerians were generally regarded at the time, in Northern Nigeria, as evil as described by Charles Keil;
The Igbo and their ilk...vermin and snakes to trod underfoot...dogs to be killed.

One factor that led to the hostility toward Southern Nigerians in general and Igbo in particular, was the attempt by the Aguiyi Ironsi regime to abolish regionalisation in favor of a unitary system of government which was regarded as a plot to establish Igbo domination in the Federation.
On 24 May 1966, Ironsi issued a unitary decree, which led to an explosion of attacks against the Igbo in Northern Nigeria. On 29 May, 1966, the British press was unanimous in its conviction at the time that the May 29 killings were organized and not spontaneous.
The Ironsi regime was also perceived to have been favoring Southern Nigerians in the appointment to key positions in government, thus heightening the inter ethnic rivalries.
The failure of the Ironsi regime to punish the army mutineers responsible for the January 1966 coup further exacerbated the situation.
The May 1966 pogrom was carried out by rampaging mobs with the connivance of local government officials.
According to British newspaper reports at the time, about 30,000 Igbo were killed in September 1966, while more conservative estimates put the casualties at between ten and thirty thousand for that month.
This spree of killings carried on into early October and was carried out by civilians sometimes aided by army troops and swept the entire north. It has been described as the most painful and provocative incident leading to the Nigeria-Biafra war.

Aftermath

The pogroms led to mass movement of Igbo and other Eastern Nigerians back to Eastern Nigeria (it is estimated that more than one million Igbos returned to the Eastern region). It also was the precursor to Ojukwu's declaration of Eastern Nigeria's secession from the Federation as the Republic of Biafra, and the resulting Nigerian Civil War (1967–1970), which Biafra lost.
Re: 2023: Why South-East Can’t Get Presidential Ticket - Kalu Replies Clark by Obason22(m): 3:43am On May 13, 2022
He will see shame

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Re: 2023: Why South-East Can’t Get Presidential Ticket - Kalu Replies Clark by DCatt: 3:51am On May 13, 2022
You this fraud can keep barking but Yoruba had no obligation to vote for Obasanjo just as Igbos have no obligation to vote for a resident Fulani in Igboland.
sweetjohn:
When you stupid afonja openly on all tinubu channels and press refused to vote for obasanjo, it was south east and some part of north that voted for obasanjo in 1999. In 2003, you people carried placards in protest against voting for obasanjo. You people condemned him and call him names. Once again it was the igbos who voted massively for obasanjo. Stop saying rubbish or else you will go blind

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Re: 2023: Why South-East Can’t Get Presidential Ticket - Kalu Replies Clark by DCatt: 3:54am On May 13, 2022
Obasanjo is NOT Yoruba and it doesn't matter how many times y'all try to repeat the lie, it will remain a lie.
ebufa:





Obasanjo they voted for 1989 and 2003 is apparently from the moon abi? Oga, do not underestimate the treachery you Yorubas are capable of!

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Re: 2023: Why South-East Can’t Get Presidential Ticket - Kalu Replies Clark by DCatt: 3:57am On May 13, 2022
You voting for Obasanjo has nothing to do with Yoruba. Our son and candidate(Olu Falae)was the one Yoruba supported.
OfoIgbo:


The SE voted for OBJ in both the 1999 and 2003 presidential elections

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Re: 2023: Why South-East Can’t Get Presidential Ticket - Kalu Replies Clark by olas24u(f): 4:47am On May 13, 2022
Zeezenho:


Tinubu made his money in Yoruba land by dipping his kleptomaniac hand into the state treasure right? Do you know why record exists? Records exist for reference purposes.we don't want what happened in Lagos to be replicated nationally.
What is your business with yoruba money? Is it your money?

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Re: 2023: Why South-East Can’t Get Presidential Ticket - Kalu Replies Clark by olas24u(f): 6:08am On May 13, 2022
elipheleh:


Go and create Odudua nonsense na. You will become shooting target practice.

May your case never be like the case of Sunday Igbogho

Read before you comment, 3 way strategy. Olodo
Re: 2023: Why South-East Can’t Get Presidential Ticket - Kalu Replies Clark by drlateef: 6:08am On May 13, 2022
FuckOsuPigs:


He wasn't referring to the Southwest. He was referring to the Southeast. The zone supported Jonathan in 2011 and 2015 overwhelmingly but what do they get in return? An Amaechi, a Wike, a Silva, an Emefiele, et al coming out to declare for presidency when they should be adopting a Southeastern candidate.

But wetin concern me, the Eebos are politically naive but would not want to agree. That's what will make them languish in political wilderness for long.

They need to learn


He also mentioned southwest. Read it again. They are always saying others have conspired against them. But in truth, they conspire against themselves.
Re: 2023: Why South-East Can’t Get Presidential Ticket - Kalu Replies Clark by sokera: 7:03am On May 13, 2022
OfoIgbo:


That is a lie. Olu Falae was AD's candidate while Obasanjo was PDP's candidate.

Both of them are from the SW.

Ogbonnaya Onu also made way for Olu Falae, so you have no point
the arguments here is that south-east has never supported the interest of the Yoruba people, the Igbo always support the northerners…, Northerners supported OBj over the Yoruba choice of Olu Falae , that is why OBJ didn’t win in the south-west , do you know OBJ didn’t win any states in the south-west ? Yoruba choice was Falae but northerners knows OBJ is half yoruba and half Igbo … that is the secret … the fact remains Igbos has never supported the interest of yoruba ppl

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Re: 2023: Why South-East Can’t Get Presidential Ticket - Kalu Replies Clark by sokera: 7:06am On May 13, 2022
Subsaharan:


You mean >4m people that would most definitely be your friends and neighbours paying their taxes like everyone else and possibly complaining of food inflation like you.
That you want to lead mobs to kill and destroy their livelihoods?
Igbo paying taxes ? Are you kidding me , what has their taxes got to do with yoruba political interest? What the Igbos are doing in Lagos they can’t do in Kaduna … Igbos can’t live in Kaduna and be attacking El refai the way Igbos living in Lagos attacking Tinubu… the fact is this generation is more brutal … a lot of things will change after this election just watch out

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Re: 2023: Why South-East Can’t Get Presidential Ticket - Kalu Replies Clark by bixton(m): 7:59am On May 13, 2022
beerfraud:


https://punchng.com/why-south-east-cant-get-presidential-ticket-kalu-replies-clark/


If truly Pa Edwin Clark is a Stateman and a Patriotic one then he should set an example by first telling th PDP which is his party to without any form of feet dragging give the the presidential ticket to the South East and let those in the PDP who are of that zone should do the needful. He should also remember the APC is not a party to that arrangement since the South East have bluntly spoken that the APC is a fulani party and by their stand they don't even have a formidable crowd in the party to seize a ticket.
Re: 2023: Why South-East Can’t Get Presidential Ticket - Kalu Replies Clark by OfoIgbo: 8:54am On May 13, 2022
paramakina202:


Umu Nri can lead umu Nri they have no jurisdiction over any other Igbo group.

Spoken like a real osu.

Where in my post, did I write that Umu Nri should lead other Igbo groups?

As for whether Umu Nri have jurisdiction over any other Igbo groups. If your town recognizes eke, oye/orie, afo and nkwo, that town already has Nri links
If you take nze, ozo and duru titles, you recognize Nri
When you commit an abomination in your father's compound and your father is not recognized by the land/ANA/ANI/ALA as qualified to lift that abomination, however ANA/ANI recognizes the spiritual authority of the Nri man to get rid of that abomination in your own father's compound, then Umu Nri have cultural jurisdiction in your father's compound. Not your dad. GET IT!!!
Re: 2023: Why South-East Can’t Get Presidential Ticket - Kalu Replies Clark by Alexis11: 8:59am On May 13, 2022
samesta:


Igbos voted Obasanjo ( a Yoruba man) against Ojukwu( an Igbo man) in 2003.

Igbos voted PDP not a Yoruba interest.. Ojukwu was just being clownish in 2003 election. He wasn't a contestant per sey. grin
Re: 2023: Why South-East Can’t Get Presidential Ticket - Kalu Replies Clark by Alexis11: 9:15am On May 13, 2022
bixton:



If truly Pa Edwin Clark is a Stateman and a Patriotic one then he should set an example by first telling th PDP which is his party to without any form of feet dragging give the the presidential ticket to the South East and let those in the PDP who are of that zone should do the needful. He should also remember the APC is not a party to that arrangement since the South East have bluntly spoken that the APC is a fulani party and by their stand they don't even have a formidable crowd in the party to seize a ticket.

This is the most objective comment on this thread.

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