pansophist:


So your solution is that Putin should still keep selling to a customer that restrict access to the account his money is paid to, banned him from using the same currency and banned him from the medium of payment transfer (swift)? Such customer is a useless customer. They can go to hell.

No one thinks Russia is the only supplier of gas, but other alternatives are freaking expensive and the infrastructures are not even there. The EU doesn't have enough LNG terminals and to build enough will take at least the next five years, even as such, its expensive to ship from overseas compare to Just pump from pipeline with Russia.

If you think Russia went into this war without thinking and planning and careful examining all possibly scenerios, then you lost it. What's the big deal with Finland joining Nato? They endangered themselves. Putin will move icmbs to the border facing Finland. If the Finnish people want to live with missles facing their country, goodluck to them.

They've enjoyed peace without aggression from Russia since second world war, but the new generation of leaders that didn't fought war are so soft and daft, that they are joking with fire. Go check out the map and see that even though Finland has 1300km of border with Russia, they are mostly Arctic wasteland.

You can't compare the geography of Finland with Ukraine. Ukraine is Russia's heartland, facing their industrial base, had Russians speakers, controls the black sea, and the longest border. Lithuania, Estonia, Norway and Latvia all share borders with Russia and are all in nato, but Russia didn't worry because when it comes to war, those countries are not a threat at all.

And listen, this is not 19th century where other countries haven't catch up. Only China has a population that doubles the whole 30 EU countries, so just China will swallow all the oil the EU get. I know you love the west but you should examine the hard evidence.

I said no such thing, you gave a one sided narrative and I balanced it out with the other sides perspective with context.

Putin is free to do whatever he wants with his product and Finland is free to reject Putin's demands and take their money to another supplier which they just did.

Finland did not lose anything, but Putin lost a customer and money.

Putin's position can only hurt countries like Finland if he's the only supplier of that product, but he's not so it's easy for Finland to give him the middle finger.

Peny wise, pound foolish.

And the rest of your post has nothing to do with views, that's your own flawed. academic exercise.

See below, Finland is not playing with Putin, they saw him coming.

This kind of move to eventually stop buying Putin's products is gaining steam all over Europe, even the ones that can not afford to stop buying are putting infrastructures in place to eventually stop buying Putin's products.

I just don't know why Putin's fans are always detached from obvious realities and events unfolding before them.

Finland leases floating LNG terminal for 10 years to break free from Russian gas

https://www.reuters.com/business/finland-agrees-10-year-charter-fsru-us-firm-excelerate-2022-05-20/

ken6488:
Pay in rubble

Russia is not an African country the west can steal from

I guess they just checked the map last two months

spartan50:
why so pained

that question is for you

Jostoman:
that question is for you

wetin concern you

Officialgarri:
Russia doesn't need to go to war with Sweden or Finland.

Just cut ties with them. Cut oil, cut electricity, cut everything cuttable.

The west will help them with their supplies.

Let them also cut UK and Germany let's see how Russia survives.. na by cutting off minor countries. Poland dem cut off, aren't they surviving?

Teazer4:
I saw this news earlier, however it’s not about joining Nato, it’s about “Ruble payments”…. Winter will be here soon. It’s funny they’re threatening to stop buying Russian oil and gas, Kremlin is sending an indirect messages to EU that we can shut the damn taps anytime if you don’t comply with our conditions. EU sabi the effect so dem don Dey open ruble accounts

Russia dey make shitload of money everyday….

Op short up. And stop spreading your hoax news here

I was thinking by now,they would have attacked Finland

I was reading and wanted to stop, to point out that, you forget to mention, the EU getting gas from another supplier is next to impossible, until I saw that you mentioned it in your second paragraph.

It is not easy arguing with people that don't have the right information.

pansophist:


So your solution is that Putin should still keep selling to a customer that restrict access to the account his money is paid to, banned him from using the same currency and banned him from the medium of payment transfer (swift)? Such customer is a useless customer. They can go to hell.

No one thinks Russia is the only supplier of gas, but other alternatives are freaking expensive and the infrastructures are not even there. The EU doesn't have enough LNG terminals and to build enough will take at least the next five years, even as such, its expensive to ship from overseas compare to Just pump from pipeline with Russia.

If you think Russia went into this war without thinking and planning and careful examining all possibly scenerios, then you lost it. What's the big deal with Finland joining Nato? They endangered themselves. Putin will move icmbs to the border facing Finland. If the Finnish people want to live with missles facing their country, goodluck to them.

They've enjoyed peace without aggression from Russia since second world war, but the new generation of leaders that didn't fought war are so soft and daft, that they are joking with fire. Go check out the map and see that even though Finland has 1300km of border with Russia, they are mostly Arctic wasteland.

You can't compare the geography of Finland with Ukraine. Ukraine is Russia's heartland, facing their industrial base, had Russians speakers, controls the black sea, and the longest border. Lithuania, Estonia, Norway and Latvia all share borders with Russia and are all in nato, but Russia didn't worry because when it comes to war, those countries are not a threat at all.

And listen, this is not 19th century where other countries haven't catch up. Only China has a population that doubles the whole 30 EU countries, so just China will swallow all the oil the EU get. I know you love the west but you should examine the hard evidence.

Ukraine will run out of fighters soon

leofab:
I guess they just checked the map last two months

an african was resting in a gutter.

NigerianSage:
This is another Putin face saving drama, they don't want your gas and they won't pay your in rubbles so of what relevance is you not selling anything to Finland?

Obviously, Finland don't want your gas, they are already getting gas from other sources, your loss .

This man is dumb sha.

Lol. See who’s calling a whole president dumb? An African man. Laugh wan kee me here.

Military Analyst Brian Berletic: Russian Ops in Ukraine – Ukraine Losing M777 Howitzers, Continues Losing Ground in Donbas
ussanews.comMay 21, 2022 12:55 PM

Update for Russian military operations in Ukraine for May 21, 2022:


1. Ukrainian militants in the Azovstal steel works have unconditionally surrendered numbering between hundreds (current Red Cross count) to thousands according to Russian sources;

2. Mariupol has been secured by Russia since mid to late-April – Ukraine finally admits however that its “combat operations” have fully ended;

3. Russia continues to make progress in the Donbas region – Ukrainian forces are being encircled in Severodonestsk and Lysychansk – the salient around Papasnya is expanding both west and north as part of this major encirclement;


4. Pentagon admits Russia still poses the majority of its combat power – possess a “numerical advantage” over Ukraine – and is making “slow, uneven” progress, but progress nonetheless;

5. Kharkov “offensive” has either stalled or is in the process of being rolled back;

6. US M777 howitzers have been found, tracked, targeted, and destroyed by Russian forces;

7. Additional attempts to send heavy weapons will face similar technical, tactical, strategic, and manpower challenges;

References US Department of Defense – Pentagon Press Secretary John F. Kirby Holds a Press Briefing – May 20, 2022: https://www.defense.gov/News/Transcri…

US Department of Defense – Senior Defense Official Holds a Background Briefing May 19, 2022: https://www.defense.gov/News/Transcri…


TASS – Leader of Azov battalion transferred from Azovstal plant in armored vehicle – top brass: https://tass.com/defense/1454085

SouthFront – IN VIDEO: RUSSIAN DRONE, ARTILLERY DESTROY UKRAINE’S NEW M777 HOWITZERS: https://southfront.org/in-video-russi…

pansophist:




No one thinks Russia is the only supplier of gas, but other alternatives are freaking expensive and the infrastructures are not even there. The EU doesn't have enough LNG terminals and to build enough will take at least the next five years, even as such, its expensive to ship from overseas compare to Just pump from pipeline with Russia.

You don't need new terminal construction to get LNG deliveries, the whole of Europe from Germany to Finland are buying and leasing floating terminals to take care of that until they are done constructing their own terminals.

Finland just leased new terminals for 10 years, Germany bought their own, Poland and Bulgaria which Putin cut off are getting their supplies from the US at cheaper rates.

This is what I don't get about Putin supporters, you don't do facts, just sentiments, emotions and personal opinions that don't jive with basic realities on the ground.

The whole of EU can not break away from Russian gas today, but they are doing everything in their power to break away tomorrow.

Tomorrow is coming, Putin's pain is coming tomorrow because Europe is getting ready and spending their huge wealth to make sure that tomorrow comes when Putin's gas becomes irrelevant.


Abge, wake up and smell the coffee.

Electricity & Gas Kaput. Why do these northern hemisphere countries make us feel inadequate, whereas they are borrow-borrow-make-me-rich clowns? Oh, I get it. They are expansively permitted to print currencies to undergird their make-believe social security systems.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-61524933

samfrancis1:
But you never thought Russia must have weighed the consequences before venturing into all of this?

I really don't think so. Putin didn't expect to use two weeks in Ukraine.

Tulsaguy:



I really don't think so. Putin didn't expect to use two weeks in Ukraine.

Yes that was it until the west started supplying them with weapons.. Russia didn’t go into war. They were there to demilitarize.. but US and NATO is turning it into something else

cocoboss:

Get your dirty ass off my mention kid

I be your mate?

Teazer4:
I saw this news earlier, however it’s not about joining Nato, it’s about “Ruble payments”…. Winter will be here soon. It’s funny they’re threatening to stop buying Russian oil and gas, Kremlin is sending an indirect messages to EU that we can shut the damn taps anytime if you don’t comply with our conditions. EU sabi the effect so dem don Dey open ruble accounts

Russia dey make shitload of money everyday….

THEY KNW WINTER IS COMING SOM , AND THEY ARE NOT BLACKS. THEY MUST HAVE ALTERNATIVE BEFOR THE SO CALLED WINTER

Kingkamba:
Russian just dey give them woto woto anyhow

WIC COUNTRY GAT THE MOST FLEWING CITIZENS ? IF U CN ANSA THIS, THEN U MUST KNW WHO IS COLLECTING WOTO WOTO