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Re: Can Southwest Ever Trust North Anymore? by pointblank247(m): 5:01am On May 28, 2022 |
There is no need for trust between the North and SW, This is because they know each other well enough, they are using the same template. They always come together and tolerate each other each time they want to out smart the SE. |
Re: Can Southwest Ever Trust North Anymore? by Pious101: 5:01am On May 28, 2022 |
PoliteActivist:on what basis? Should it be given to them on a platter of gold without working for it? How many south east aspirant have the political weight to win Tinibu right now? 2 Likes |
Re: Can Southwest Ever Trust North Anymore? by MrMcJay(m): 5:02am On May 28, 2022 |
Uchek: I have seen the answer I need. There was no agreement. I don't want to debate the civil war. It's an emotive issue for a lot of people and I don't want to talk about it. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Can Southwest Ever Trust North Anymore? by MrMcJay(m): 5:04am On May 28, 2022 |
malel1: What if the plot to give GEJ doesn't fall through and Tinubu gets it, what will you now do? |
Re: Can Southwest Ever Trust North Anymore? by limeta(f): 6:36am On May 28, 2022 |
Should south west have trusted the north in 2015 that should be the question . Greed leads to doom . 3 Likes |
Re: Can Southwest Ever Trust North Anymore? by ZombieSlaughter: 6:45am On May 28, 2022 |
Philipponzaghi: Stop making noise as if you really havr any veritable plan. APC will field Lawan or Jona and heaven will not fall. Nobody owes yorubas anything in this country. You cried for equity and justice in 1999 and everybody rallied round you and made a yoruba man president. You were veritably assuaged. Today you oppose the same equity and justice for others. You will cry through your nose today and nobody will give a damn. Again nobody owes you anything. 10 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Can Southwest Ever Trust North Anymore? by Saintinoo(m): 6:46am On May 28, 2022 |
Dsalvo: Hahahaha cry me a river, North will impose Jonathan, North, Southeast and South South will vote for him. Game over, the Southwest can keep crying. 1 Like |
Re: Can Southwest Ever Trust North Anymore? by ZombieSlaughter: 6:48am On May 28, 2022 |
Philipponzaghi: Pained emotional yoruba rants. Counter his facts. You no fit. 2 Likes |
Re: Can Southwest Ever Trust North Anymore? by Saintinoo(m): 6:57am On May 28, 2022 |
MrMcJay: hahahaha Yoruba will not kill me with laugh. let me educate you on this, it was the northern governors that brought the idea of Jonathan as consensus candidate, Buni, Badaru and Bagudu are championing it, the only northern governor against that plan is El rufai, try and come down to the North and hear public opinion of these Northerners, every market, mosque, gathering, everywhere is Jonathan. You think those governors that are deceiving Tinubu mean well for him? then you truely don't know the North. Ask your brothers staying in the far North, they have all concluded their plans, it's either a Northerner as president or they give it to Jonathan who will give them back. |
Re: Can Southwest Ever Trust North Anymore? by PoliteActivist: 6:57am On May 28, 2022 |
MrMcJay: Here is a newspaper report of what Awo himself said publicly (note the bolded): VANGUARD 26 SEP 2017 By Eric Teniola ON May 1, 1967 at a meeting of Leaders of thought of Western Region, Chief Obafemi Awolowo made the following declarations: “I consider my duty to Yoruba people in particular and to Nigerians in general to place four imperatives, two of them categorical, and two conditional: (1) Only a peaceful solution must be found to arrest the present worsening stalemate and restore normalcy. (2) The Eastern Region must be encouraged to remain part of the Federation (3). If the Eastern Region is allowed by acts of omission or commission to secede from or opt out of Nigeria, then Western Region and Lagos must also stay out of the Federation. (4) The people of Western Nigeria or Lagos would participate in the Ad hoc Constitutional Committee or any similar body only on the basis of absolute equality with other Regions of the Federation”. It was the gravest statement made by any leader in Nigeria at a crucial time. ... The question is why did the Western Region not follow the Eastern Region when it seceded on May 30, 1967? The Daily Sketch which published in full Chief Awolowo’s speech on May 2, 1967 sold out in Enugu at two shillings per copy which is more equivalent of today’s six hundred naira. The speech was hot cake in Igbo land - all and sundry understood it to mean Awolowo would pull the Yorubas out of Nigeria if Igbos seceded. ================================ On July 2001 Rudolf Okonkwo pointedly asked Ojukwu if there was such agreement. Here is what he said (note the bolded): RUDOLF OKONKWO: Did the meeting take place, and was there such an agreement? OJUKWU: We’ve said this over and over again, so many times, and people don’t understand; they don’t want to actually... Don’t forget that the political purpose of the coup, the Ifeajuna coup that began all this, was to hand power over to Awo. We young men respected him a great deal. He was a hero. I thought he was a hero and certainly I received him when I was governor. We talked and he was very vehement when he saw our complaints and he said that if the Igbos were forced out by Nigeria that he would take the Yorubas out also. I don’t know what anybody makes of that statement but it is simple. Whether he did or didn’t, it is too late. There is nothing you can do about it. Here is what Sam Aluko, who was at the meeting, said: "What Ojukwu Told Me, Before, Durring, And After The War" - SAM ALUKO "Awolowo said, if the East left the federation, the Yoruba would have to leave the federation." 1 Like |
Re: Can Southwest Ever Trust North Anymore? by Truthisunique2: 6:59am On May 28, 2022 |
Yorubas are pawns in the hand of the north The reality is do you have a choice than continue to serve the north 1 Like |
Re: Can Southwest Ever Trust North Anymore? by PoliteActivist: 7:01am On May 28, 2022 |
SIRTee15: Here you are, some 60 years later, knowing better than people who were there. On July 2001 Rudolf Okonkwo pointedly asked Ojukwu if there was such agreement. Here is what he said (note the bolded): RUDOLF OKONKWO: Did the meeting take place, and was there such an agreement? OJUKWU: We’ve said this over and over again, so many times, and people don’t understand; they don’t want to actually... Don’t forget that the political purpose of the coup, the Ifeajuna coup that began all this, was to hand power over to Awo. We young men respected him a great deal. He was a hero. I thought he was a hero and certainly I received him when I was governor. We talked and he was very vehement when he saw our complaints and he said that if the Igbos were forced out by Nigeria that he would take the Yorubas out also. I don’t know what anybody makes of that statement but it is simple. Whether he did or didn’t, it is too late. There is nothing you can do about it. Here is what Sam Aluko, who was at the meeting, said: "What Ojukwu Told Me, Before, Durring, And After The War" - SAM ALUKO "Awolowo said, if the East left the federation, the Yoruba would have to leave the federation." ================================= Here is a newspaper report of what Awo himself said publicly (note the bolded): VANGUARD 26 SEP 2017 By Eric Teniola ON May 1, 1967 at a meeting of Leaders of thought of Western Region, Chief Obafemi Awolowo made the following declarations: “I consider my duty to Yoruba people in particular and to Nigerians in general to place four imperatives, two of them categorical, and two conditional: (1) Only a peaceful solution must be found to arrest the present worsening stalemate and restore normalcy. (2) The Eastern Region must be encouraged to remain part of the Federation (3). If the Eastern Region is allowed by acts of omission or commission to secede from or opt out of Nigeria, then Western Region and Lagos must also stay out of the Federation. (4) The people of Western Nigeria or Lagos would participate in the Ad hoc Constitutional Committee or any similar body only on the basis of absolute equality with other Regions of the Federation”. It was the gravest statement made by any leader in Nigeria at a crucial time. ... The question is why did the Western Region not follow the Eastern Region when it seceded on May 30, 1967? The Daily Sketch which published in full Chief Awolowo’s speech on May 2, 1967 sold out in Enugu at two shillings per copy which is more equivalent of today’s six hundred naira. The speech was hot cake in Igbo land - all and sundry understood it to mean Awolowo would pull the Yorubas out of Nigeria if Igbos seceded. 1 Like |
Re: Can Southwest Ever Trust North Anymore? by PoliteActivist: 7:28am On May 28, 2022 |
Pious101: See below
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Re: Can Southwest Ever Trust North Anymore? by PaChukwudi44(m): 7:31am On May 28, 2022 |
MrMcJay:If that is truly the case then you have nothing to worry about.Go back to sleep with your two eyes closed |
Re: Can Southwest Ever Trust North Anymore? by TheNiceGuy(m): 7:32am On May 28, 2022 |
Nah this last piece I just want to be hearing I don't even read OP epistle. How GEJ wan tey get APC ticket Philipponzaghi: 1 Like |
Re: Can Southwest Ever Trust North Anymore? by PaChukwudi44(m): 7:33am On May 28, 2022 |
MrMcJay:We both know Tinubu at the moment does not stand a 1% chance of picking up the APC ticket |
Re: Can Southwest Ever Trust North Anymore? by PaChukwudi44(m): 7:33am On May 28, 2022 |
TheNiceGuy:Just watch and observe |
Re: Can Southwest Ever Trust North Anymore? by PaChukwudi44(m): 7:36am On May 28, 2022 |
Pious101:Which weight does Tinubu have? Because the SW media gave him a ceremonial title of APC national leader? Conduct a poll between Tinubu abd Peter Obi and see who will win BTW if it is by political weight the north will continue to rule 1 Like |
Re: Can Southwest Ever Trust North Anymore? by Nobody: 7:53am On May 28, 2022 |
Saintinoo: This is why the SW is the only region the North respects and know they must defer to. Just look at what is coming out of the mouth of a grown adult. Considering it is folks like you who will averagely make up the calibre of politicians from your region, is it any surprise you suck at politics with your leaders like Obi behaving like spoilt brats and stressed women on a 'heavy' time of the month? . Contrast with how the average Yoruba talks here to note that it is not a mystery you lot suck at politics and why no one has regard for you. 2 Likes |
Re: Can Southwest Ever Trust North Anymore? by Nobody: 7:57am On May 28, 2022 |
PaChukwudi44: Lol. The heights of childishness and immaturity. Where had the 50 million polls Obi has won online gotten him exactly today? Someone who fled rather than face the disgrace approaching, at the PDP primaries, which 20 million poll wins on twitter cannot prevent? That coward is who you are mentioning along Tinubu? You guys can never gain salvation. 2 Likes |
Re: Can Southwest Ever Trust North Anymore? by Sonyboom: 8:16am On May 28, 2022 |
I don't know about the other geo zones o but I know for a fact that you as a person is a big fool, the biggest I ever encountered in my life along with your Igbo father . PaChukwudi44: 2 Likes |
Re: Can Southwest Ever Trust North Anymore? by PoliteActivist: 8:28am On May 28, 2022 |
Dsalvo: Shows how politically illiterate you are. That's a VERY SMART move by MPO. The party nominees are determined by a few delegates and usually by who has money to bribe them most. The president is elected by the public - which is where MPO strength lies, the grassroots. All he has to do is target his efforts towards them, not waste his resources on buying delegates! 1 Like |
Re: Can Southwest Ever Trust North Anymore? by joyandfaith: 8:34am On May 28, 2022 |
badoh: It was not only SW/ Tinubu that made Buhari a president . It was collective effort. If likes of saraki, kwakwaso, Amaechi, Okorocha and Atiku did not work against Gej, Tinubu effort would mean nothing. Buhari won Gej by 2.5 million votes. In fact new pdp and gej weakness made it possible for buhari to win. |
Re: Can Southwest Ever Trust North Anymore? by GoooodHardDick: 8:41am On May 28, 2022 |
Dsalvo: I'm a full blooded Edo niggar, and what that guy said was correct. He was right. Yorubas are slaves to the northerners na. Everyone knows this already. The ass licking and slavery mentality of the Yorubas is just too much., to the extent that your god said Fulani and Yoruba are one! Just because of his selfish interest, this is pure asslicking. Stop trying to twist his narratives man! He is simply trying to say let Yorubas stand on their own and not asslicking the northerners up and down like the slaves they are! 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Can Southwest Ever Trust North Anymore? by Kutunban: 8:57am On May 28, 2022 |
badoh: You are an emotional person, politics and emotions are parallel. |
Re: Can Southwest Ever Trust North Anymore? by Bakinwuta(f): 9:03am On May 28, 2022 |
badoh: You should becareful with this generalization and the word North or Northern .Stick to individual name calling like such as Buhari. Right now the SW have significant support amongst northeners. When you begin to beat the drums of sinister moves or accusing everyone up north of being part of something they have no interest in , you may just be acting as someone betraying or destroying the bridges built. Nobody markets both BAT and PYO as northerners do. Simply because some political players have there own agenda to choose, it does not make that an entire north agenda . Don't do things that will deprive the SW of the support, friends and ally they already have won on the other side. For me and many more loyalty to good friends and allies is important above all. One good favor deserves another good favor is a thing. If you keep up with this wrong attitude. Breeding animosity where none exist, people may feel you have some kinda bottled up anger in return. It's best to keep your campaigns and support growing , stop all this Northern hidden agenda disinformation or speculations. The SW is better positioned now than ever to take over. SW is doing fine with efforts on ground this name calling or treats and lies are unnecessary and will not help your candidates or there allies in the North. It's politics, about different people and diverse opinions. There are always divergent view or desire in everything. It's doesn't mean there opinion is popular or reflective of the wider group. Hence the reason calling out every Northerner or generalization is unhealthy. If I may ask, why are you not calling out the Afenifere leaders who are openly campaigning against SW presidency and castigating BAT or PYO ? Is that the SW speaking ? Is it reflective of the entire SW view or agenda? Will it be safe to say the SW is against there own and in support of the SE. Just applying your your logic? Even when SW supported the north, you had people who did the opposite. As such going by your thinking the SW didn't support PMB or the north as well ! Let's stop all this silly wild goose chase to no where . There is nothing like a Northern agenda. It's nothing more than the political players acting in there interest. It's always about numbers and how much support you can win from all sides. Its not by black mail or propaganda. It is also true you can't win them all! I maybe wrong but BAT and PYO are doing well so far and have good support in the north as I see it and know. Courtesy of the relationship they built over time across the Niger. Make una no dey carry such bitter , strong mouth destroy that support that could give them victory. That's all am saying. Such misguided sentiments and cries are totally unnecessary. The SW should let politicians play it out and remain focus. If anything they should close there ranks not to have Afenifere or Obj dashing there candidates hopes. They are most favored at the moment. Thanks to the path of bridge building they have taken since inception of democracy. Lets stop all this North most be wrong or bad or vilified at all cost or even black mailed on this or that ! It won't help anyone or anything. 1 Like |
Re: Can Southwest Ever Trust North Anymore? by Saintinoo(m): 9:05am On May 28, 2022 |
Dsalvo: Cry me a river bro, I repeat, Buhari will impose Jonathan, North, Southeast and South South will vote for him. Let's see Tinubu and Yoruba popularity, Tinubu better have some guts like Peter Obi and quickly decamp to SDP. Yoruba must be on the ballot. 1 Like |
Re: Can Southwest Ever Trust North Anymore? by Bakinwuta(f): 9:15am On May 28, 2022 |
Saintinoo: At the moment forget talk he can't if it's the PMB we know. 1 Like |
Re: Can Southwest Ever Trust North Anymore? by Amumaigwe: 9:26am On May 28, 2022 |
badoh: Hehehehehe. Cry me an ocean. If you mention southerners again, thunder will fire you. This is a family issue between a slave and her slave master. Sort it out with equanimity. Mcheew 1 Like |
Re: Can Southwest Ever Trust North Anymore? by amuwo1980: 9:29am On May 28, 2022 |
PoliteActivist:The people are inhuman and my greatest joy this year will be thiefniubu losing the APC ticket . 1 Like |
Re: Can Southwest Ever Trust North Anymore? by PaChukwudi44(m): 9:30am On May 28, 2022 |
Dsalvo:Tinubu is yet to win any election since 2003.He is an overated politician. He has never won outside his SW region |
Re: Can Southwest Ever Trust North Anymore? by PaChukwudi44(m): 9:32am On May 28, 2022 |
Dsalvo:The North respects the SW 1 Like |
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