Welcome, Guest: Register On Nairaland / LOGIN! / Trending / Recent / New
Stats: 3,158,196 members, 7,835,968 topics. Date: Tuesday, 21 May 2024 at 06:21 PM

Salihu Lukman And His Grandstanding Over Buhari’s Successor - Suleiman Musa - Politics (3) - Nairaland

Nairaland Forum / Nairaland / General / Politics / Salihu Lukman And His Grandstanding Over Buhari’s Successor - Suleiman Musa (18687 Views)

Bayo Onanuga Accuses Thisday/Arise Of "Hypocritical Grandstanding" / Suleiman Musa Nasko: Constituents Chase Niger State Lawmaker Out Of Community / Salihu Lukman: How Fani-Kayode’s Defection To APC Was Stalled (2) (3) (4)

(1) (2) (3) (4) (Reply) (Go Down)

Re: Salihu Lukman And His Grandstanding Over Buhari’s Successor - Suleiman Musa by Great2017: 5:55am On Jun 03, 2022
shinealight:


What do you have Delegates for at Indirect Primaries? Is it democratic for Buhari to make the Delegates redundant and usurp their powers? Yes, the generality of the citizens will vote at the general election but the Delegates who are Representatives of the people at grassroots level must also be allowed to vote at the Primaries. Simplicita!

How many persons contested against Sanwo-Olu? Tinubu is anything but democratic.
Re: Salihu Lukman And His Grandstanding Over Buhari’s Successor - Suleiman Musa by shinealight(m): 5:59am On Jun 03, 2022
Reference:


There is nothing to be said about Lagos politics that is not audible to the deaf and visible to the blind.
Heck, you folks boast about it all day and night for two decades now, about how a single individual decides elections.
Is that democracy.?
When you sing that a man, a single man has the power to instal and remove leaders in deciding elections, you give little thought that it flies in the face of the tenets of a popular franchise.

That is empire building. Who does that in a democracy.
Where it works properly you do your term and walk away hoping to leave the office, state and its institutions in a better shape than you met it, period. That is success in a democracy. You don't use the instrument of state while in office to create a back door to perpetuate yourself in power. It is a crime in other climes.

Now that it is practiced by others you folks find it hard to swallow. So wierd.
You are either a democrat or not. You either practice democracy or not. You cannot pick and choose when and how to peddle influence to suit your wants. It is a moral question every politician out there has to answer and a serious question the people of this country have to rise to resist.

Enough is enough. We want to vote for who we want, not who is foisted on us. If not elections is futile and your PVC is no better than a motel door keycard.

….and who is stopping you from Voting for a candidate of your choice?
I asked a simple question: each time Tinubu announces his preferred candidate, does he subject him to popular vote by the people or not? So, if his opponents are men of the people, they can always beat his candidate…..but most of the time, they lack the confidence to fight their cause!
Re: Salihu Lukman And His Grandstanding Over Buhari’s Successor - Suleiman Musa by shinealight(m): 6:03am On Jun 03, 2022
Great2017:


How many persons contested against Sanwo-Olu? Tinubu is anything but democratic.

What stopped anybody from coming out to contest against Santo-Olu? If you’re sure of yourself, nobody is stopping you from doing so!
Re: Salihu Lukman And His Grandstanding Over Buhari’s Successor - Suleiman Musa by Reference(m): 6:06am On Jun 03, 2022
lugado:
Two wrongs can never make a right. If the governors are doing it doesn't mean it's right.
Buhari is the president of Nigeria. He should lead by example . He should not be following what the governors are doing.
Besides the governors do not wait for the last minute before expressing their intentions. It saves a lot of stress and it removes controversy
The presidency cannot be compared to any office in Nigeria
If Buhari had performed very well during his tenure it would have given a lot of clout and confidence to announce his successor early.
But right now ,honestly nobody trust his decisions anymore.
That's why people have the confidence to come out to contest

Then who will break this cycle and pull us out of this undemocratic swamp we have found ourselves in.... the governors or the 'president(cy)'....
Because all I see is an engine in continual motion, fueled by the very folks who want it to cease up as it thunders downhill.
In one breath you hear folks say he 'single-handedly' installed the present President by 'dethroning' the former ruling PDP.
That alone is the language of autocracy, the very thing that causes this problem.
And this attitude continues at every political engagement, ignorantly peddled as strength.
What do you expect opponents to do?.... use the very instrument against you....
No one goes with a knife to a gunfight.
Re: Salihu Lukman And His Grandstanding Over Buhari’s Successor - Suleiman Musa by Reference(m): 6:21am On Jun 03, 2022
shinealight:


….and who is stopping you from Voting for a candidate of your choice?
I asked a simple question: each time Tinubu announces his preferred candidate, does he subject him to popular vote by the people or not? So, if his opponents are men of the people, they can always beat his candidate…..but most of the time, they lack the confidence to fight their cause!

Let me whisper this to you softly, softly.... grin
That is exactly what Mr President (or the President's men) want to do.....

What you cleverly hide in your submissions is the status of the 'candidates' to be chosen, which is the crux of the matter.
Just like Mr. Tinubu makes available HIS candidates at the general elections, Mr. Buhari want to make available HIS candidate at the general elections also.

The lack of democracy is not on the streets at the general election, no, no, no, but within the political parties. That is where all the mess of maladministration starts, and I am sure you have heard the term 'LACK OF INTERNAL DEMOCRACY'.
This can be caused by two things. Either by coercion or by influence. Both attack the conscience and erode true competition, the foundation of true democracy.

The PDP did theirs last week and the lack of internal democracy was manifest by the influence of bags of money. The APC wants to do theirs but by coercion. Both are bad and both are alive at all levels of the polity, including States of which Lagos is a poster child.... and you know it, infact you folks boast about it.

I just cannot see what is happening now that has not happened all over Nigeria including in Lagos for the better part of twenty years.
But the silver lining here is if this 'big fight' will result in mutual destruction that will consume that cancer of autocracy in Nigerian politics, then we might all be happy at the end.
Re: Salihu Lukman And His Grandstanding Over Buhari’s Successor - Suleiman Musa by maasoap(m): 6:30am On Jun 03, 2022
This Suleiman Musa doesn't have any sense. Why Buhari must handpick his successor? Who handpicked him in 2015?
Re: Salihu Lukman And His Grandstanding Over Buhari’s Successor - Suleiman Musa by Great2017: 6:31am On Jun 03, 2022
shinealight:


What stopped anybody from coming out to contest against Santo-Olu? If you’re sure of yourself, nobody is stopping you from doing so!

Tinubu and his "anointing oil". Same will be served to him very soon. Once Buhari names his anointed candidate, Tinubu is free to contest against him.

1 Like

Re: Salihu Lukman And His Grandstanding Over Buhari’s Successor - Suleiman Musa by shinealight(m): 6:31am On Jun 03, 2022
Reference:


Let me whisper this to you softly, softly.... grin
That is exactly what Mr President (or the President's men) want to do.....

What you cleverly hide in your submissions is the status of the 'candidates' to be chosen, which is the crux of the matter.
Just like Mr. Tinubu makes available HIS candidates at the general elections, Mr. Buhari want to make available HIS candidate at the general elections also.

The lack of democracy is not on the streets at the general election, no, no, no, but within the political parties. That is where all the mess of maladministration starts, and I am sure you have heard the term 'LACK OF INTERNAL DEMOCRACY'.
This can be caused by two things. Either by coercion or by influence. Both attack the conscience and erode true competition, the foundation of true democracy.

The PDP did theirs last week and the lack of internal democracy was manifest by the influence of bags of money. The APC wants to do theirs but by coercion. Both are bad and both are alive at all levels of the polity, including States of which Lagos is a poster child.... and you know it, infact you folks boast about it.

I just cannot see what is happening now that has not happened all over Nigeria including in Lagos for the better part of twenty years.
But the silver lining here is if this 'big fight' will result in mutual destruction that will consume that cancer of autocracy in Nigerian politics, then we might all be happy at the end.

What the President and his goons want to do is to subvert Internal Democracy by disallowing the Delegates from choosing a flagbearer for the party…..in the name of “consensus”. The President can have his preferred candidate….he can even go to the Venue of the Primaries to campaign for his personal choice, but he cannot impose that preferred candidate on the party. The Delegates must be free to agree with him or choose to go in another direction. That’s the point Tinubu is making!!
Re: Salihu Lukman And His Grandstanding Over Buhari’s Successor - Suleiman Musa by shinealight(m): 6:42am On Jun 03, 2022
Great2017:


Tinubu and his "anointing oil". Same will be served to him very soon. Once Buhari names his anointed candidate, Tinubu is free to contest against him.

Look….after Rawlings ruled Ghana for 19 years, he tried to impose a preferred successor on the people but his candidate was roundly defeated. It’s only here in Nigeria you guys try to turn Buhari into a demigod. He is free to name his preferred candidate but the person can still be defeated…..Anointing Oil or no anointing oil. You guys should muster some Confidence in yourselves….after all Buhari himself was defeated three times before someone came to his rescue!

1 Like

Re: Salihu Lukman And His Grandstanding Over Buhari’s Successor - Suleiman Musa by tinsel: 6:52am On Jun 03, 2022
PHIPEX:
Tinubu is fighting from all angles
Salihu Lukeman is El Rufai boy.
Re: Salihu Lukman And His Grandstanding Over Buhari’s Successor - Suleiman Musa by ogmask: 7:01am On Jun 03, 2022
planetE:
Divide NIGERIA and let every region dey on its own. A united Nigeria can never be great regardless of who oversees its national affairs.

This divide Nigeria slogan is becoming stale. What happens to the assets of southerners in Abuja and the north in general. What happens to the trillions of naira investments outside the south by our southern brothers. If you have a house or an immovable asset in the north I bet you won't say what you just said. Instead of divide why not start with the kind of leaders we process to power in the south.

1 Like

Re: Salihu Lukman And His Grandstanding Over Buhari’s Successor - Suleiman Musa by Great2017: 7:04am On Jun 03, 2022
shinealight:


Look….after Rawlings ruled Ghana for 19 years, he tried to impose a preferred successor on the people but his candidate was roundly defeated. It’s only here in Nigeria you guys try to turn Buhari into a demigod. He is free to name his preferred candidate but the person can still be defeated…..Anointing Oil or no anointing oil. You guys should muster some Confidence in yourselves….after all Buhari himself was defeated three times before someone came to his rescue!
Let us watch and see how powerful Tinubu is. I will remind you about this after the convention.
Re: Salihu Lukman And His Grandstanding Over Buhari’s Successor - Suleiman Musa by CorperKola: 7:10am On Jun 03, 2022
shinealight:


The President does not have any “right” to seek to choose a successor….in a democracy, that right belongs to the people and they must be allowed to exercise it. Goons like you Suleiman Musa should also desist from turning Buhari into a demigod.
What Nonsense! shocked shocked
But tinu u has the right to choose his succesors even though his tenure ended in 2007.
Something is wrong with you. Nobody takes you seriously anyways
Re: Salihu Lukman And His Grandstanding Over Buhari’s Successor - Suleiman Musa by livinbygrace: 7:21am On Jun 03, 2022
shinealight:


What stopped anybody from coming out to contest against Santo-Olu? If you’re sure of yourself, nobody is stopping you from doing so!

What about Ambode?Oboy stop typing shit.I like TInubu but truth must be told ,he is a confirmed dictator and will even be worse than Buhari.Check all the 57 LgA and LcDa ,Senatorial,HOR,House of Assembly in election/selection in Lagos you will understand better,nothing like election in Lagos but selection,so you want to extend that type of system to Aso rock,no way!
Re: Salihu Lukman And His Grandstanding Over Buhari’s Successor - Suleiman Musa by shinealight(m): 7:39am On Jun 03, 2022
CorperKola:

But tinu u has the right to choose his succesors even though his tenure ended in 2007.
Something is wrong with you. Nobody takes you seriously anyways

I’m sure something is wrong with one of us….but it’s certainly not me. Search yourself my friend.
Like any other citizen, Tinubu always has the right to have a preferred candidate. That choice is subjected to popular vote by Lagosians who are free to vote against Tinubu’s preferred candidate. If his opponents are too lily-livered to contest against his candidate, who then should be blamed?
That is exactly what he’s also asking Buhari to do….have your preferred candidate but let us go to the Square and fight it out. If your candidate wins, so be it. Why is Buhari and his goons afraid of that? …..because they know Tinubu is strong enough to beat their candidate!!
Re: Salihu Lukman And His Grandstanding Over Buhari’s Successor - Suleiman Musa by CorperKola: 7:44am On Jun 03, 2022
shinealight:


I’m sure something is wrong with one of us….but it’s certainly not me. Search yourself my friend.
Like any other citizen, Tinubu always has the right to have a preferred candidate. That choice is subjected to popular vote by Lagosians who are free to vote against Tinubu’s preferred candidate. If his opponents are too lily-livered to contest against his candidate, who then should be blamed?
That is exactly what he’s also asking Buhari to do….have your preferred candidate but let us go to the Square and fight it out. If your candidate wins, so be it. Why is Buhari and his goons afraid of that? …..because they know Tinubu is strong enough to beat their candidate!!
.
You are being clever by half, somebody that imposes his wishes on his party members. The legendary baba sope.
There are rumours he even controls the so called opposition in the state.
We are not as ignorant as you, and we are not collecting stipends to do a hatchet job.
For once let him be on the other side of Baba sope,this time he is not the "baba".
Re: Salihu Lukman And His Grandstanding Over Buhari’s Successor - Suleiman Musa by shinealight(m): 7:54am On Jun 03, 2022
CorperKola:
.
You are being clever by half, somebody that imposes his wishes on his party members. The legendary baba sope.
There are rumours he even controls the so called opposition in the state.
We are not as ignorant as you, and we are not collecting stipends to do a hatchet job.
For once let him be on the other side of Baba sope,this time he is not the "baba".

The problem with you and your ilk is lack of confidence! You refuse to follow Christ for your salvation because you say to yourself that Satan is too strong. Well, you deserve what you get! undecided undecided
Re: Salihu Lukman And His Grandstanding Over Buhari’s Successor - Suleiman Musa by ChoCho54(f): 8:16am On Jun 03, 2022
Reference:


Exactly what we have been saying for years.
Lagos is not a poster child for the Nigeria Democratic project and here lies the problem.
They have taught other 'wannabees' that it is possible for an individual to serially select who governs and it will be perfectly okay.
And you know bad things are ever so easy to replicate to a worse degree.
In summary it is a story of a kettle and pot.
Gbamsolutely!
Re: Salihu Lukman And His Grandstanding Over Buhari’s Successor - Suleiman Musa by Ojuntana: 8:45am On Jun 03, 2022
Shayetet13:
[/b]Your stance in the letter further deepens the perception of the pathology of duplicity and chameleonic tendencies often associated with your known backers in this futile proxy war against Mr President.[b]

Can someone interpret this? grin

cc: Hell Rufai
Re: Salihu Lukman And His Grandstanding Over Buhari’s Successor - Suleiman Musa by Samakus(m): 8:46am On Jun 03, 2022
shinealight:


Point is: President Buhari cannot choose his successor…..the Constitution does not say he can do so.
Therefore, We the people will not accord him that privilege. His successor will be chosen through Indirect Primaries followed by free and fair national election. Simplicita!

It's funny that you're now seeing evil in Buhari's bid to choose his successor but saw nothing wrong and indeed failed to cry as Tinubu consistently chose Governors for Lagos State for nearly two decades.

Is there a sacred cow, I begin to wonder. Same Tinubu played this same game few days ago and Sanwo-Olu's challengers were eschewed from participating in the Primaries.

Double face?

1 Like

Re: Salihu Lukman And His Grandstanding Over Buhari’s Successor - Suleiman Musa by DownChelsea(f): 8:47am On Jun 03, 2022
When I think of Tinububununbu, I remember that Burna Boy song that has to do with "serving breakfast"


grin grin. grin
Re: Salihu Lukman And His Grandstanding Over Buhari’s Successor - Suleiman Musa by Ojuntana: 9:03am On Jun 03, 2022
maasoap:
This Suleiman Musa doesn't have any sense. Why Buhari must handpick his successor? Who handpicked him in 2015?
Tinubu just said he hand-picked him
Re: Salihu Lukman And His Grandstanding Over Buhari’s Successor - Suleiman Musa by shinealight(m): 9:05am On Jun 03, 2022
Samakus:


It's funny that you're now seeing evil in Buhari's bid to choose his successor but saw nothing wrong and indeed failed to cry as Tinubu consistently chose Governors for Lagos State for nearly two decades.

Is there a sacred cow, I begin to wonder. Same Tinubu played this same game few days ago and Sanwo-Olu's challengers were eschewed from participating in the Primaries.

Double face?

How were they eschewed from participating in the Primaries? Their hands were tied behind their backs or they refused to sell the forms to them? How? Just tell us how?
You cannot blame some people’s cowardice or lack of confidence on others and label them as dictatorial.
If they truly have followers, they should go into the field and rally their followers against Tinubu’s candidate…..just like Tinubu himself is not folding his arms right now but busy rallying his followers to battle with anyone that Buhari may choose as a preferred candidate.
That’s the way Democracy works….not by lazy people looking for Anointing Oil all over the place and blaming others for their inability to perform!
Re: Salihu Lukman And His Grandstanding Over Buhari’s Successor - Suleiman Musa by Ojuntana: 9:05am On Jun 03, 2022
shinealight:


What the President and his goons want to do is to subvert Internal Democracy by disallowing the Delegates from choosing a flagbearer for the party…..in the name of “consensus”. The President can have his preferred candidate….he can even go to the Venue of the Primaries to campaign for his personal choice, but he cannot impose that preferred candidate on the party. The Delegates must be free to agree with him or choose to go in another direction. That’s the point Tinubu is making!!
When did Buhari say the delegates should not vote?
Re: Salihu Lukman And His Grandstanding Over Buhari’s Successor - Suleiman Musa by shinealight(m): 9:13am On Jun 03, 2022
Ojuntana:

When did Buhari say the delegates should not vote?

So, if the Delegates can vote what’s the hullabaloo about? Why are they still talking about Consensus candidate?
All the Delegates should just vote for the candidate of their choice and we count the votes and declare the winner!
Why the shout of Consensus or I want to choose my successor? What rubbish is that?
Re: Salihu Lukman And His Grandstanding Over Buhari’s Successor - Suleiman Musa by Ojuntana: 9:17am On Jun 03, 2022
shinealight:


So, if the Delegates can vote what’s the hullabaloo about? Why are they still talking about Consensus candidate?
All the Delegates should just vote for the candidate of their choice and we count the votes and declare the winner!
Why the shout of Consensus or I want to choose my successor? What rubbish is that?
Na "they" know why "they" are talking about consensus. Buhari asked for the governor's support in delivering his candidate just as Tinubu had been going around asking for the governor's support too.
I don't know why you think him asking for their support equates consensus.
Don't forget, during the last convention, some people refused to step down for the consensus candidates and an election then held.
So calm down. If Tinubu refuses to step down, an election will hold.
Re: Salihu Lukman And His Grandstanding Over Buhari’s Successor - Suleiman Musa by Samakus(m): 9:23am On Jun 03, 2022
shinealight:


How were they eschewed from participating in the Primaries? Their hands were tied behind their backs or they refused to sell the forms to them? How? Just tell us how?
You cannot blame some people’s cowardice or lack of confidence on others and label them as dictatorial.
If they truly have followers, they should go into the field and rally their followers against Tinubu’s candidate…..just like Tinubu himself is not folding his arms right now but busy rallying his followers to battle with anyone that Buhari may choose as a preferred candidate.
That’s the way Democracy works….not by lazy people looking for Anointing Oil all over the place and blaming others for their inability to perform!

I want to believe that you decided to play to the gallery as regards the bolded. The challengers to Sanwo-Olu were not cleared paving the way for him to emerge unopposed.

It's crazy how the justle for stomach infrastructure can make a man to be so double faced. You see no evil in perpetuating installation of candidates and godfatherism but cry wolf when it's done against you.

Very unfortunate the kind of politics some young people play just because of selling their conscience for handouts
Re: Salihu Lukman And His Grandstanding Over Buhari’s Successor - Suleiman Musa by shinealight(m): 9:32am On Jun 03, 2022
Ojuntana:

Na "they" know why "they" are talking about consensus. Buhari asked for the governor's support in delivering his candidate just as Tinubu had been going around asking for the governor's support too.
I don't know why you think him asking for their support equates consensus.
Don't forget, during the last convention, some people refused to step down for the consensus candidates and an election then held.
So calm down. If Tinubu refuses to step down, an election will hold.

Buhari is free to rally his troops for battle but he cannot muscle the party’s NWC into foisting a consensus on the others.
Tell me, why do they insert the Declaration in the form that aspirants must sign to accept a Consensus candidate?
If it’s Indirect Primaries where the Delegates will perform their statutory role, why trying to arm-twist the aspirants into signing such a Declaration? An aspirant does not have to accept any Consensus candidate….that is the Law. So why force them to sign a declaration in the N100 million form? A dictator is always a Dictator … whether in uniform or babanriga!
Re: Salihu Lukman And His Grandstanding Over Buhari’s Successor - Suleiman Musa by shinealight(m): 9:44am On Jun 03, 2022
Samakus:


I want to believe that you decided to play to the gallery as regards the bolded. The challengers to Sanwo-Olu were not cleared paving the way for him to emerge unopposed.

It's crazy how the justle for stomach infrastructure can make a man to be so double faced. You see no evil in perpetuating installation of candidates and godfatherism but cry wolf when it's done against you.

Very unfortunate the kind of politics some young people play just because of selling their conscience for handouts

Lolzzzz! grin grin
The challengers to Sanwo-Olu were not cleared paving the way for him to emerge unopposed.
Where did you get that from? Who were the challengers that were not cleared and for what reason?
Please enlighten us….unless you’re making it up!
Re: Salihu Lukman And His Grandstanding Over Buhari’s Successor - Suleiman Musa by HRMK: 10:02am On Jun 03, 2022
TRASH,BALDERDASH AND ARRANT NONSENSE!WAS BUHARI ELECTED THROUGH CONSENSUS?NO!EVEN THE GOVERNORS' EXAMPLES WASNT TOTALLY SO,BECAUSE VOTINGS WERE INVOLVED!BUHARI HAS NO CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO PICK A PRESIDENT FOR NIGERIANS!!
Re: Salihu Lukman And His Grandstanding Over Buhari’s Successor - Suleiman Musa by Ojuntana: 10:23am On Jun 03, 2022
shinealight:


Buhari is free to rally his troops for battle but he cannot muscle the party’s NWC into foisting a consensus on the others.
Tell me, why do they insert the Declaration in the form that aspirants must sign to accept a Consensus candidate?
If it’s Indirect Primaries where the Delegates will perform their statutory role, why trying to arm-twist the aspirants into signing such a Declaration? An aspirant does not have to accept any Consensus candidate….that is the Law. So why force them to sign a declaration in the N100 million form? A dictator is always a Dictator … whether in uniform or babanriga!
Lol. Buhari is suddenly a dictator after seven years of supporting him
So who has been forced to sign the form?
The form is for those who may wish to withdraw. Has Tinubu not submitted his form? Did he sign the withdrawal form?
It's obvious you guys see you're holding the short end of the stick and just making noise to save face
Re: Salihu Lukman And His Grandstanding Over Buhari’s Successor - Suleiman Musa by Samakus(m): 10:30am On Jun 03, 2022
shinealight:


Lolzzzz! grin grin
The challengers to Sanwo-Olu were not cleared paving the way for him to emerge unopposed.
Where did you get that from? Who were the challengers that were not cleared and for what reason?
Please enlighten us….unless you’re making it up!

Oh! Now I can see that you're genuinely ignorant of what transpired and your here arguing.

Anyways, let me spoonfeed you. What are online friends for? cheesy

Read, will ya

https://www.channelstv.com/2022/05/26/just-in-sanwo-olu-wins-apc-governorship-primary/amp/

(1) (2) (3) (4) (Reply)

President Goodluck Jonathan and Corruption - Femi Orebe / Kogi Gov’ship: Mass Defection Looms In PDP / Presidency: Party Decision On Zoning Is Supreme - Udom Emmanuel, Peter Obi

(Go Up)

Sections: politics (1) business autos (1) jobs (1) career education (1) romance computers phones travel sports fashion health
religion celebs tv-movies music-radio literature webmasters programming techmarket

Links: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10)

Nairaland - Copyright © 2005 - 2024 Oluwaseun Osewa. All rights reserved. See How To Advertise. 68
Disclaimer: Every Nairaland member is solely responsible for anything that he/she posts or uploads on Nairaland.