Perhaps the reason we have so much crime is because the criminals are very confident their victims would be defenceless.

LordVoldermort:
Perhaps the reason we have so much crime is because the criminals are very confident their victims would be defenceless.

It cannot work in a setting like ours. Someone will just wake up one day and kill his neighbor and he'll claim he acted in self-defense.

wis3:
It cannot work in a setting like ours. Someone will just wake up one day and kill his neighbor and he'll claim he acted in self-defense.

You're just talking rubbish. If I have a gun and you have a gun fear will not let you think of coming to attack me . And if even it comes to that , it will be a case of who is faster .

North Korea has been boasting since time immemorial to use nuclear weapons to bomb South Korea but they haven't done that all because South Korea also has Nuclear weapons, same thing with Pakistan and india. The reason why these terrorists and other criminals are reigning in Nigeria is because the Failed govt hasn't allow everybody to carry weapons. No matter the disadvantages that will bring, a criminal coming to attack you with a dane gun will think twice when he knows you have an AK 47 at home. Terrorists living in the forests and attacking farmers will receive automatic sense when farmers go to their farms with AR-15 or an Uzzi

You look finish sleep with abobi girlfriend wey him don spend better money untop, abobi get gun,him go blow your head oo
Country like Nija wey hunger dey reign supreme no suppose legalize gun oo
Remember an hungry man is an angry man.

LordVoldermort:
Perhaps the reason we have so much crime is because the criminals are very confident their victims would be defenceless.

You have a very valid point.

If criminals know they'll face armed people, they'll certainly think twice plus the success rate of armed attacks would be greatly reduced.

Nigerians should be allowed to bear arms. It's obvious the criminals are having a field day as the govt has failed in providing security.

it would...but sadly there are too many mad people in Nigeria already.

Jashub:
You're just talking rubbish. If I have a gun and you have a gun fear will not let you think of coming to attack me . And if even it comes to that , it will be a case of who is faster .

I'll wait till you're at an disadvantage. The element of surprise; catch you unexpected.

It'll rather worsen it.

wis3:
I'll wait till you're at an disadvantage. The element of surprise; catch you unexpected.

Bros, that's your own thinking strategy, but do you know my own ? If not, then you're just deceiving yourself

Jashub:
Bros, that's your own thinking strategy, do you know my own ?

Remember, you're attacker might even be two steps ahead of you. If you plan smart, he might plan even smarter.

Jashub:
You're just talking rubbish. If I have a gun and you have a gun fear will not let you think of coming to attack me . And if even it comes to that , it will be a case of who is faster .

Learn to air your opinion without insult

oz4real83:
North Korea has been boasting since time immemorial to use nuclear weapons to bomb South Korea but they haven't done that all because South Korea also has Nuclear weapons, same thing with Pakistan and india. The reason why these terrorists and other criminals are reigning in Nigeria is because the Failed govt hasn't allow everybody to carry weapons. No matter the disadvantages that will bring, a criminal coming to attack you with a dane gun will think twice when he knows you have an AK 47 at home. Terrorists living in the forests and attacking farmers will receive automatic sense when farmers go to their farms with AR-15 or an Uzzi

these are just simple scenarios you're making up in your head. It's not that easy. Things would get out of hands. With people killing people we'd now have factions and people forming groups so they can look out for each other. On the other hand. Why can't why have a world where there are no wars, no guns, no WMDs?

wis3:
Remember, you're attacker might even be two steps ahead of you. If you plan smart, he might plan even smarter.

That's your assumption, not mine.

Gun Rights will escalate Chaos unless the guns are signed to Traditional Rulers or LG Chaiman who would then be held responsible for how his vigilante uses it

Eg Each local Govt Chairman can have 100 guns to Secure his Domain anything.more then the Police and Civil Defense would be there to Supervise and help

wis3:
these are just simple scenarios you're making up in your head. It's not that easy. Things would get out of hands. With people killing people we'd now have factions and people forming groups so they can look out for each other. On the other hand. Why can't why have a world where there are no wars, no guns, no WMDs?

greed and sheer wickedness won't allow the world to be a perfect place as you are projecting. In a situation that kind of world isn't possible, we just have to make better use of a bad situation. For instance, the world as it is now the weapons are mostly in the hands of the wicked people and the good people are the ones suffering. But when you arm the good people with weapons, the scenario changes, they now have their own lives in their own hands, not in the hands of a failed govt and its institutions. Even if the good people continue dying, as least they were given a chance to save themselves by themselves against the wicked people instead of depending on a govt that doesn't care.

Jashub:
You're just talking rubbish. If I have a gun and you have a gun fear will not let you think of coming to attack me . And if even it comes to that , it will be a case of who is faster .

You did not make sense go buy brain before the gun

oz4real83:
greed and sheer wickedness won't allow the world to be a perfect place as you are projecting. In a situation that kind of world isn't possible, we just have to make better use of a bad situation. For instance, the world as it is now the weapons are mostly in the hands of the wicked people and the good people are the ones suffering. But when you arm the good people with weapons, the scenario changes, they now have their own lives in their own hands, not in the hands of a failed govt and its institutions. Even if the good people continue dying, as least they were given a chance to save themselves by themselves against the wicked people instead of depending on a govt that doesn't care.

I understand the angle you're coming from but it's going to be chaos if everyone is allowed to own a gun. Take the US for example where there's so many cases of mass shooting where one person could wake up one day and kill dozens of people at schools, gatherings, events. This is US as developed as it is how much more in Nigeria where we have religious fanatics, cultists. It is a recipe for disaster.

cefezyA:


You did not make sense go buy brain before the gun

It's not suppose to make sense to people like you .

Jashub:
It's not suppose to make sense to people like you .

I guess when they give you the right to have a gun it will be your wife that will pull the trigger on your head

cefezyA:

I guess when they give you the right to have a gun it will be your wife that will pull the trigger on your head

If that's how your shallow-mentality interprets things then who am I to stop your new found negativity

Jashub:
If that's how your shallow-mentality interprets things then who am I to stop your new found negativity

How often did you obey traffic rules? Be honest

cefezyA:

How often did you obey traffic rules? Be honest

You're asking a wrong question in wrong case scenario . Hope you know that

Jashub:
You're asking a wrong question in wrong case scenario . Hope you know that

In a scenario where a country 98% can not obey traffic rules should not be allowed to have gun right hope you understand me now

cefezyA:

In a scenario where a country 98% can not obey traffic rules should not be allowed to have gun right hope you understand me now

You're still not making sense . How's that a yardstick in determining how people should secure their lives and properties? Now you can see why I said wrong question in a wrong case scenario

wis3:
I understand the angle you're coming from but it's going to be chaos if everyone is allowed to own a gun. Take the US for example where there's so many cases of mass shooting where one person could wake up one day and kill dozens of people at schools, gatherings, events. This is US as developed as it is how much more in Nigeria where we have religious fanatics, cultists. It is a recipe for disaster.

Are we not having mass shootings now?

What further disaster can a country have than few gunmen killing over 80 people who went to worship their God in a church?

You people only mention US because you do not have understanding.
Criminals don't get arms legally. They will always get it no matter what you do.

The 2nd Amendment of the US Constitution allows an establishment of a militia to defend the citizens against their government's tyranny (in case it arises).

And why are you no mentioning Switzerland?

Firearm possession is legal in Ghana, in Chad, why are neigbours not killing themselves in those countries?

christistruth01:
Gun Rights will escalate Chaos unless the guns are signed to Traditional Rulers or LG Chaiman who would then be held responsible for how his vigilante uses it

Eg Each local Govt Chairman can have 100 guns to Secure his Domain anything.more then the Police and Civil Defense would be there to Supervise and help

How will they escalate chaos?

Are people not having possession of knives now?

There are knife attacks every time in the UK and many parts of Europe, why can't they sign knife possession to Queen Elizabeth II.

Acid is sold in the open market even now without any traditional ruler guaranteeing anything.

Does it also mean that people with Dane guns for hunting currently are signed to LG chairmen now?

Jashub:
You're still not making sense . How's that a yardstick in determining how people should secure their lives and properties? Now you can see why I said wrong question in a wrong case scenario

If you can't obey traffic rules is it a gun rule you will obey even the so-called police and the military abuse the use of their guns

LordVoldermort:
Perhaps the reason we have so much crime is because the criminals are very confident their victims would be defenceless.

Tell me that the police stations are defenceless and military camps and post are defenceless

porka:


How will they escalate chaos?

Are people not having possession of knives now?

There are knife attacks every time in the UK and many parts of Europe, why can't they sign knife possession to Queen Elizabeth II.

Acid is sold in the open market even now without any traditional ruler guaranteeing anything.

Does it also mean that people with Dane guns for hunting currently are signed to LG chairmen now?

Imagine if those with knives had guns instead that would be terrible

oz4real83:
North Korea has been boasting since time immemorial to use nuclear weapons to bomb South Korea but they haven't done that all because South Korea also has Nuclear weapons, same thing with Pakistan and india. The reason why these terrorists and other criminals are reigning in Nigeria is because the Failed govt hasn't allow everybody to carry weapons. No matter the disadvantages that will bring, a criminal coming to attack you with a dane gun will think twice when he knows you have an AK 47 at home. Terrorists living in the forests and attacking farmers will receive automatic sense when farmers go to their farms with AR-15 or an Uzzi

the same way they no that the military camps, police stations and check point don't have ak47s

Imagine US with all their CCTVs and well equipped police and laws finding it hard to stop gun related crimes.
A place like the US would have caught those people that massacred people in the church in Owo cos they are systems in place for such occurrence. But here in Nigeria, with no CCTV such things can be happening everyday and the police will have no idea on who the culprits are.

For those saying that criminals will think twice before attacking you if they know you have a gun.. Imagine if you're are criminal yourself and you know your neighbor have a gun and you want to rob or kill him, what are the chances that you won't succeed if you use the element of surprise??
Imagine you robbing your next door neighbor right now and he doesn't have the faintest idea of what you want to do. Even with his gun, you still have the upper hand..