"Does the Watchtower organisation control the Jehovah's Witnesses' thinking?"

See how they are to submit to the teaching of the Watchtower organisation as you read more at http://ow.ly/i3WH50JrgQx

Your threads have become boring and there's no more customers shey?

Mumu Kumuyi pikin!

Does Kumuyi controls Deeperlifer's thinking?

Apostle Paul urges his fellow believers to allow those taking the lead in Christianity CONTROL THEIR THINKING:

Remember your leaders, who spoke the word of God to you. Consider the outcome of their way of life and imitate their faith. Hebrews 13:7

Have confidence in your leaders and submit to their authority, because they keep watch over you as those who must give an account. Do this so that their work will be a joy, not a burden, for that would be of no benefit to you. Hebrews 13:17

It's after they've been able to gain CONTROL {Act 2:42} that observers can SEE the product of their teachings {Matthew 5:14-16} among those who willingly subjected themselves to their teachings! Matthew 7:15-18

So if there's any religion where those taking the lead have NO CONTROL over their members then it's the gathering of spiritual GOATS not SHEEP!

Its MaxinDHouse on the beat, ever ready to defend his errornous beliefs with scriptures he doesnt understand, lol, u are using hebrews to advocate for christian leaders to control the thinking of their followers, but in that same scripture Apostle Paul says in 1Cor 11:1 "imitate me as i imitate christ" meaning that u should only imitate your leaders AS MUCH AND AS LONG AS THEY IMITATE CHRIST, where they dont imitate christ, u shouldnt imitate them, that means they shouldnt CONTROL your thinking, rather they should help you think like christ. So dont swallow everything your governing body feeds u hook, line and sinker, rather seek to understand scripture yourself, even if it means questioning what they teach you!!

NuclearReactor:
Its MaxinDHouse on the beat, ever ready to defend his errornous beliefs with scriptures he doesnt understand, lol, u are using hebrews to advocate for christian leaders to control the thinking of their followers, but in that same scripture Apostle Paul says in 1Cor 11:1 "imitate me as i imitate christ" meaning that u should only imitate your leaders AS MUCH AND AS LONG AS THEY IMITATE CHRIST, where they dont imitate christ, u shouldnt imitate them, that means they shouldnt CONTROL your thinking, rather they should help you think like christ. So dont swallow everything your governing body feeds u hook, line and sinker, rather seek to understand scripture yourself, even if it means questioning what they teach you!!

May the true God bless you again and again and again for this beautiful post in Jesus name amen!

Well the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses have proved to be exactly like Jesus in all their ways that's why millions of people globally trusted them wholeheartedly and they have gathered us to do everything Jesus said in the Bible.
So thanks for your concern, the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses have everything we need to convince us that they're ambassadors of Christ!

OLAADEGBU:
"Does the Watchtower organisation control the Jehovah's Witnesses' thinking?"

See how they are to submit to the teaching of the Watchtower organisation as you read more at http://ow.ly/i3WH50JrgQx

proof jw is pseudo-christian. Jesus said in luke24:49 , acts 1:4, that the indwelling of the spirit is a prerequisite for being a WITNESS(Christian) but they keep denying the Trinity, their unity and the deity of JESUS. So they are not Christians!

MaxInDHouse:


Well the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses have proved to be exactly like Jesus in all their ways..

Can you show us undeniable proof on how your Governing Body have proved to be "exactly like Jesus" in "all their ways"?

that's why millions of people globally trusted them wholeheartedly and they have gathered us to do everything Jesus said in the Bible.

But the Bible which you claim to follow by the letter clearly states at Psalm 146 -

Verse 3 - Do not put your trust in princes, in human beings, who cannot save.

Verse 4 - When their spirit departs, they return to the ground; on that very day their plans come to nothing.

So why are you MaxInDHouse and other JWs putting your wholehearted trust in human beings like you?

Or are the members of your Governing Body not mere human beings like you?

oteneaaron:

Can you show us undeniable proof on how your Governing Body have proved to be "exactly like Jesus" in "all their ways"?

Good question!
The Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses and the perfect similarities with Jesus of Nazareth!
[1] They render selfless services so there's no personal possessions anywhere {Matt 8:20} everything they had is just their brothers and sisters in the faith! Matt 12:46-50
[2] They never venture into politics nor support any politician! John 6:15
[3] They've erased vengeance from the hearts of millions across the globe who are following them! Matt 5:43-48
[4] They've diverted all the energy, resources and time of millions across the globe into the production of food and information materials! Matt 28:19-20 compare to Isaiah 2:2-4
[5] They have turned millions across the globe into lifetime preachers and teachers who have become less or not materialistic at all! Matt 6:24-30
[6] They united all their followers throughout the world so that when others are killing their fellow believers in other countries due to politics and racism JWs are looking for ways to save their own members (who are citizens of the enemy nation) Luke 10:29-37
[7] They have input all what Jesus commanded in the head of millions across the globe to the extent that all of them now have the same line of thought globally! John 17:20-22

There's no religion that has done one tenth of all these! Matthew 5:14-16; 7:16-18

But the Bible which you claim to follow by the letter clearly states at Psalm 146 -
Verse 3 - Do not put your trust in princes, in human beings, who cannot save.
Verse 4 - When their spirit departs, they return to the ground; on that very day their plans come to nothing.
So why are you MaxInDHouse and other JWs putting your wholehearted trust in human beings like you? Or are the members of your Governing Body not mere human beings like you?

You missed the import of Psalms 146 Sir because the Governing Body has relied totally on the teachings of Jesus Christ of Nazareth not on their own understanding {Prov 3:5-6} so our trust is not just in them but in the source where they are getting the wisdom which is Jesus Christ of Nazareth! John 17:20

That's why it seems as if we wholeheartedly subject ourselves to them so don't just think it's them that we're trusting but our trust is in the man from Nazareth whose teachings they are using to TEACH us! Matt 28:20

Psalms 146:4 is telling you not to put your trust in human rulers (politicians) but it's just unfortunate that billions are doing that today as you give your fingerprint (votes) in support of those who can't do anything to save you in this wicked system of things!

MaxInDHouse:

Good question!
The Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses and the perfect similarities with Jesus of Nazareth!

[1] They render selfless services so there's no personal possessions anywhere {Matt 8:20} everything they had is just their brothers and sisters in the faith! Matt 12:46-50

Are you sure about this?

Where is the undeniable proof to show?

[2] They never venture into politics nor support any politician! John 6:15

But Courz showed proof where your leaders were shown sponsoring political candidate(s) in the United States.

During world war 2, JF Rutherford sent a letter to Adolf Hitler supporting his stance against the Jews, is that not politics too?

Proof - https://www.nairaland.com/1815757/watchtower-scandal-rutherfords-letter-hitler

[3] They've erased vengeance from the hearts of millions across the globe who are following them! Matt 5:43-48

But they accept grants from HM Riley every year in millions of dollars, which we found out was gotten from investment in weapons of mass destruction.

Is that not a double standard?

[4] They've diverted all the energy, resources and time of millions across the globe into the production of food and information materials! Matt 28:19-20 compare to Isaiah 2:2-4

Production of food?

Where is the undeniable proof for that?

Information materials?

Then why have they asked you and your members to destroy your older "information materials"?

What happens to all the money spent producing them and the millions of hours spent distributing them?

See attached images for proof.

[5] They have turned millions across the globe into lifetime preachers and teachers who have become less or not materialistic at all! Matt 6:24-30

I will agree to disagree.

But the Catholic church has done this too for many centuries, sending missionaries all over the world.

You wouldn't be a "Christian" today if the Catholic church hadn't send missionaries to Africa centuries ago.

[6] They united all their followers throughout the world so that when others are killing their fellow believers in other countries due to politics and racism JWs are looking for ways to save their own members (who are citizens of the enemy nation) Luke 10:29-37

But the Catholic church too is doing this.

Just last Sunday, over 50 Catholics in Owo were killed in cold blood for their Christian faith.

Leah Shabiru a Christian is still in boko harm's custody.

So what makes yours special?

[7] They have input all what Jesus commanded in the head of millions across the globe to the extent that all of them now have the same line of thought globally! John 17:20-22

The same thing with Scientology, Mormons, Jesuits, Catholics, etc

There's no religion that has done one tenth of all these! Matthew 5:14-16; 7:16-18

I beg to differ.

See above.

Psalms 146:4 is telling you not to put your trust in human rulers (politicians) but it's just unfortunate that billions are doing that today as you give your fingerprint (votes) in support of those who can't do anything to save you in this wicked system of things!

I don't agree with you.

The Bible clearly states -

Psalms 146:3 Do not put your trust in princes, in human beings, who cannot save.

Psalms 146:4 When their spirit departs, they return to the ground; on that very day their plans come to nothing.

It is not talking about Politicians alone.

It says HUMAN BEINGS.

Whether they are your Governing Body, Elders, Circuit Overseers, Pastors, Bishops, Imam or even the Pope, they are all HUMAN BEINGS.

We are not supposed to put our wholehearted trust in any of them.

Because they can die, just like you and I.

oteneaaron:

Are you sure about this?
Where is the undeniable proof to show?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm, do you know why most religious leaders go about with armed security guards? Well it's due to their net worth (riches) but the Governing Body goes about freely because they don't possess what entices robbers, so any intelligent individual will know they don't have anything to protect other than their integrity! Matt 6:19-21

But Courz showed proof where your leaders were shown sponsoring political candidate(s) in the United States.
During world war 2, JF Rutherford sent a letter to Adolf Hitler supporting his stance against the Jews, is that not politics too?
Proof - https://www.nairaland.com/1815757/watchtower-scandal-rutherfords-letter-hitler

Enemies of the organization often try to accuse us before their government {Matt 10:18} so we need to prove that we're not against any human government! Matt 10:16
So we are not in support or against any politician's ambition! John 18:36

But they accept grants from HM Riley every year in millions of dollars, which we found out was gotten from investment in weapons of mass destruction. Is that not a double standard?

Whatever you get from the enemies of this group doesn't move right thinking persons who knows that nobody invests and still criticize his own investment. Logically you can't invest your money in a product and the same send out critics in millions to discourage customers from patronizing your product.
Come on that makes no practical sense!

Production of food?
Where is the undeniable proof for that?
Information materials?
Then why have they asked you and your members to destroy your older "information materials"?
What happens to all the money spent producing them and the millions of hours spent distributing them?
See attached images for proof.

Our bethel homes produces most of the foods they consume. Information must be updated so there's no crime in updates! Matt 5:33-37

I will agree to disagree.
But the Catholic church has done this too for many centuries, sending missionaries all over the world. You wouldn't be a "Christian" today if the Catholic church didn't send missionaries to Africa centuries ago.

Do their disciples avoid wars? Matt 26:52

But the Catholic church too is doing this. Just last Sunday, over 50 Catholics in Owo were killed in cold blood for their Christian faith. Leah Shabiru a Christian is still in boko harm's custody. So what makes yours special?

The Catholics are directly involved in world politics that's why politicians are using their members to fight wars, so when a politician notice he doesn't have the support of Catholics they wage war against each other.
But JWs supports no side that's why we don't have issues when politicians are using what they have to fight their oppositions.

The same thing with Scientology, Mormons, Jesuit, Catholics, Islam etc
I beg to differ.
See above.
I don't agree with you.

Whether you agree or disagree it's your own cup of coffee, you can't impose it on others after all we differ in reasoning!

The Bible clearly states -
Psalms 146:3 Do not put your trust in princes, in human beings, who cannot save.
Psalms 146:4 When their spirit departs, they return to the ground; on that very day their plans come to nothing.
It is not talking about Politicians alone.
It says HUMAN BEINGS.
Whether they are your Governing Body, Elders, Circuit Overseers, Pastors, Bishops, Imam or even the Pope, they are all HUMAN BEINGS. We are not supposed to put our wholehearted trust in any of them.
Because they can die, just like you and I.

That's where you err seriously Sir, the GB of JWs are alive that's why you keep correlating everything that's coming from them since 1800s up to date.
It's the Spirit King that's with them that's doing the work not them so when any of their member dies the world don't know because the system continues.
I have told you what Psalms 146:3-4 means but if you're not satisfied then it's left to you.
God won't come down and talk to humans rather He will send representatives whom we must honour as his messengers by obeying the instructions they're passing to us from God. That's why Jesus said:

“Be on the watch for the false prophets who come to you in sheep’s covering, but inside they are ravenous wolves. By their fruits you will recognize them. Never do people gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles, do they? Likewise, every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit. A good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, nor can a rotten tree produce fine fruit. Matthew 7:15-18

The Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses have performed wonderfully well by producing the fruit expected of CHRISTIANITY so if you believe in CHRIST you can present a better performing group than them.
Until then keep what you know while we keep what we know.
They are God's spokesman that's why we are following their instructions! Zechariah 8:23

MaxInDHouse:


May the true God bless you again and again and again for this beautiful post in Jesus name amen!

Well the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses have proved to be exactly like Jesus in all their ways that's why millions of people globally trusted them wholeheartedly and they have gathered us to do everything Jesus said in the Bible.
So thanks for your concern, the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses have everything we need to convince us that they're ambassadors of Christ!

Oh so the gov. Body of JW have proven to be christlike whilst every other christian denomination is "false religion" This attitude of i am right and everyone else is false is the reason you guys want to teach others but not want to learn when corrected, and that is your undoing!!

NuclearReactor:
Oh so the gov. Body of JW have proven to be christlike whilst every other christian denomination is "false religion" This attitude of i am right and everyone else is false is the reason you guys want to teach others but not want to learn when corrected, and that is your undoing!!

Please do you learn from people who failed in their assignment or from those diligent in their works?
Well Jesus assigned his disciples to go and preach to people in their homes {Matt 10:11-13} only JWs are strictly obeying him.
Jesus instructed his disciples to show love to their neighbours, only JWs are doing this while all others only love those who love them and during racism and politics you will hate even your fellow believers. So how do you expect me to think of learning about Jesus from you when you can't even practice what Jesus taught?

MaxInDHouse:

Good question!
The Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses and the perfect similarities with Jesus of Nazareth!
[1] They render selfless services so there's no personal possessions anywhere {Matt 8:20} everything they had is just their brothers and sisters in the faith! Matt 12:46-50
[2] They never venture into politics nor support any politician! John 6:15
[3] They've erased vengeance from the hearts of millions across the globe who are following them! Matt 5:43-48
[4] They've diverted all the energy, resources and time of millions across the globe into the production of food and information materials! Matt 28:19-20 compare to Isaiah 2:2-4
[5] They have turned millions across the globe into lifetime preachers and teachers who have become less or not materialistic at all! Matt 6:24-30
[6] They united all their followers throughout the world so that when others are killing their fellow believers in other countries due to politics and racism JWs are looking for ways to save their own members (who are citizens of the enemy nation) Luke 10:29-37
[7] They have input all what Jesus commanded in the head of millions across the globe to the extent that all of them now have the same line of thought globally! John 17:20-22

There's no religion that has done one tenth of all these! Matthew 5:14-16; 7:16-18





You missed the import of Psalms 146 Sir because the Governing Body has relied totally on the teachings of Jesus Christ of Nazareth not on their own understanding {Prov 3:5-6} so our trust is not just in them but in the source where they are getting the wisdom which is Jesus Christ of Nazareth! John 17:20

That's why it seems as if we wholeheartedly subject ourselves to them so don't just think it's them that we're trusting but our trust is in the man from Nazareth whose teachings they are using to TEACH us! Matt 28:20

Psalms 146:4 is telling you not to put your trust in human rulers (politicians) but it's just unfortunate that billions are doing that today as you give your fingerprint (votes) in support of those who can't do anything to save you in this wicked system of things!

But your freemason gods have been involved in Satanic Rituals, Child Sexual Abuse, Homosexuality, Money Laundering, and Politics. How are these same people CHRISTLIKE?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTKQtp-ULwA

Courz:

But your freemason gods have been involved in Satanic Rituals, Child Sexual Abuse, Homosexuality, Money Laundering, and Politics. How are these same people CHRISTLIKE?

Oteneaaron (Courz)

MaxInDHouse:


Please do you learn from people who failed in their assignment or from those diligent in their works?

Your Freemason gods sponsored the election of a US Senator as clearly shown in the link below. When caught in the act, they denied involvement and tried to remove evidence not knowing this exposure has spread. How are they Christlike?

https://speakoutinfearlessness..com/2021/07/watchtower-of-jehovahs-witnesses.html?fbclid=IwAR1wyzf4vYeWVirn52OYeRnPz2dAy1r0lQnwxbJ4kCczdtFV1DTSu9ehQHo&m=1

MaxInDHouse:


Oteneaaron (Courz)

Your religion is also a Freemason organisation disguised as a Christian one. It also runs another Freemason Cult International Bible Students Association that meet in Masonic Lodges today. How is this Christlike?

Courz:

Your Freemason gods sponsored the election of a US Senator as clearly shown in the link below. When caught in the act, they denied involvement and tried to remove evidence not knowing this exposure has spread. How are they Christlike?

https://speakoutinfearlessness..com/2021/07/watchtower-of-jehovahs-witnesses.html?fbclid=IwAR1wyzf4vYeWVirn52OYeRnPz2dAy1r0lQnwxbJ4kCczdtFV1DTSu9ehQHo&m=1

Stupidity at it's peak!
Why not sponsor a politician and then discourage all your close confidants not to vote?
Hilarious! Ọmọ who coded your brain cells?

MaxInDHouse:

Your Freemason gods also stole a congregation's money. Menlo Park Congregation, Carlifornia. Seized their money, stepped down the Elders, disfellowshipped JWs there and closed the congregation simply because they protested as shown in the link below. How is this Christlike?

https://jwleaks.org/scandals/menlo-park-congregation/

Courz:

Your religion is also a Freemason organisation disguised as a Christian one. It also runs another Freemason Cult International Bible Students Association that meet in Masonic Lodges today. How is this Christlike?

Oteneaaron (Courz)
Do you believe in Jesus of Nazareth?
Can you tell me which church you attend?

MaxInDHouse:

Your Freemason gods sponsored the election of a US Senator as clearly shown in the link below. When caught in the act, they denied involvement and tried to remove evidence not knowing this exposure has spread. How are they Christlike?

https://speakoutinfearlessness..com/2021/07/watchtower-of-jehovahs-witnesses.html?fbclid=IwAR1wyzf4vYeWVirn52OYeRnPz2dAy1r0lQnwxbJ4kCczdtFV1DTSu9ehQHo&m=1

Courz:


Your Freemason gods also stole a congregation's money. Menlo Park Congregation, Carlifornia. Seized their money, stepped down the Elders, disfellowshipped JWs there and closed the congregation simply because they protested as shown in the link below. How is this Christlike?

https://jwleaks.org/scandals/menlo-park-congregation/

If so them start their own religion nah, wahala no dey!

MaxInDHouse:

Your religion is also a Freemason organisation disguised as a Christian one. It also runs another Freemason Cult International Bible Students Association that meet in Masonic Lodges today. How is this Christlike?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrEYHATLdxY

Courz:


Your Freemason gods sponsored the election of a US Senator as clearly shown in the link below. When caught in the act, they denied involvement and tried to remove evidence not knowing this exposure has spread. How are they Christlike?

https://speakoutinfearlessness..com/2021/07/watchtower-of-jehovahs-witnesses.html?fbclid=IwAR1wyzf4vYeWVirn52OYeRnPz2dAy1r0lQnwxbJ4kCczdtFV1DTSu9ehQHo&m=1

Oteneaaron (Courz)

MaxInDHouse:


If so them start their own religion nah, wahala no dey!

Your Freemason gods also stole a congregation's money. Menlo Park Congregation, Carlifornia. Seized their money, stepped down the Elders, disfellowshipped JWs there and closed the congregation simply because they protested as shown in the link below. How is this Christlike?

https://jwleaks.org/scandals/menlo-park-congregation/

MaxInDHouse:

Your Freemason gods sponsored the election of a US Senator as clearly shown in the link below. When caught in the act, they denied involvement and tried to remove evidence not knowing this exposure has spread. How are they Christlike?

https://speakoutinfearlessness..com/2021/07/watchtower-of-jehovahs-witnesses.html?fbclid=IwAR1wyzf4vYeWVirn52OYeRnPz2dAy1r0lQnwxbJ4kCczdtFV1DTSu9ehQHo

Courz:


Your religion is also a Freemason organisation disguised as a Christian one. It also runs another Freemason Cult International Bible Students Association that meet in Masonic Lodges today. How is this Christlike?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrEYHATLdxY

Whatever you call us is not new, Jesus has told what us you faithless people like you will do!
Matt 10:25

MaxInDHouse:

Your religion is also a Freemason organisation disguised as a Christian one. It also runs another Freemason Cult International Bible Students Association that meet in Masonic Lodges today. How is this Christlike?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrEYHATLdxY

Courz:


Your Freemason gods sponsored the election of a US Senator as clearly shown in the link below. When caught in the act, they denied involvement and tried to remove evidence not knowing this exposure has spread. How are they Christlike?

https://speakoutinfearlessness..com/2021/07/watchtower-of-jehovahs-witnesses.html?fbclid=IwAR1wyzf4vYeWVirn52OYeRnPz2dAy1r0lQnwxbJ4kCczdtFV1DTSu9ehQHo

Sponsoring something then discouraging your friends not to participate!
Walahi talahi Apostates don code this guy brain cells pátápátá!

MaxInDHouse:

Do as I say but not as I do. Hypocrites!
Your Freemason gods sponsored the election of a US Senator as clearly shown in the link below. Who will disfellowship Watchtower? When caught in the act, they denied involvement and tried to remove evidence not knowing this exposure has spread. How are they Christlike?

https://speakoutinfearlessness..com/2021/07/watchtower-of-jehovahs-witnesses.html?fbclid=IwAR1wyzf4vYeWVirn52OYeRnPz2dAy1r0lQnwxbJ4kCczdtFV1DTSu9ehQHo

Courz:

Do as I say but not as I do. Hypocrites!
Your Freemason gods sponsored the election of a US Senator as clearly shown in the link below. Who will disfellowship Watchtower? When caught in the act, they denied involvement and tried to remove evidence not knowing this exposure has spread. How are they Christlike?

https://speakoutinfearlessness..com/2021/07/watchtower-of-jehovahs-witnesses.html?fbclid=IwAR1wyzf4vYeWVirn52OYeRnPz2dAy1r0lQnwxbJ4kCczdtFV1DTSu9ehQHo

If you're interested in freemason or other cults nobody stops you and according to the laws of the society in which we live, there is FREEDOM OF SPEECH, EXPRESSION, WORSHIP and ASSOCIATION!

Here's a cult i just saw on internet if you're interested:

https://l.kphx.net/s?d=2314967794900799202&extra=Q1RSWT1ORyZMTkc9ZW4=

But coming to the forum and shouting freemason! freemason!! freemason!!! just makes you look stupid before any right thinking person because ordinarily people generally view all forms of worship where people are willing to obey without the threat of weapons CULT.
I just decided to show you how stupid you are for posting hundreds of comments only to tell people that there are CULT in the society where they live.
Meanwhile OLAADEGBU who wants to start chorusing you i silenced immediately by showing him that ex-members of Deeperlife also claim that Deeperlife is a CULT!

MaxInDHouse:

Your religion is also a Freemason organisation disguised as a Christian one. It also runs another Freemason Cult International Bible Students Association that meet in Masonic Lodges today. How is this Christlike?

Courz:


Your religion is also a Freemason organisation disguised as a Christian one. It also runs another Freemason Cult International Bible Students Association that meet in Masonic Lodges today. How is this Christlike?

Let me free you for now until your brain gets a reset perhaps you could have something tangible to say then.
For now just know that OLAADEGBU's church has also been accused of being a freemason so your hatred for Watchtower means nothing!

MaxInDHouse:

In a normal/Sane Society which you JWs call Satanic system, they regard the possession and viewing of Child P@rnography Child Sexual Abuse and such person is liable to years in prison by the Court of Law. BUT Watchtower in the Elders guide book says Child P@rnography is NOT Child Sexual Abuse. Watchtower says judicial committee can only be made for such people only when they commit the act several times But when a JW commits Fornication or Adultery, he or she must face judicial committee immediately. Please, how are they Christlike?