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Re: Western Artillery Is Helping Ukrainian Forces Push Back Russian Invaders by seanwilliam(m): 3:41pm On Jun 09, 2022 |
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Re: Western Artillery Is Helping Ukrainian Forces Push Back Russian Invaders by seanwilliam(m): 3:42pm On Jun 09, 2022 |
Kingsnairaland: Apart from nuclear weapons, one on one , can Russia defeat USA? 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Western Artillery Is Helping Ukrainian Forces Push Back Russian Invaders by salem1996: 3:51pm On Jun 09, 2022 |
Ballzproblemm: Your comments shows you either just started following the war or not following at all. I wish peace reign there, but US and UK have turn Ukraine to almost nothing. Check zelensky's last night video speech and you will realize how bad situations have been for Ukraine. Russia is fighting against the west and not just Ukraine and things would have been over since if US and UK had not decided to cashout from the war. Hope you know Ukraine will still somehow pay for the weapons they are collecting?. Russia have suffer lost too and admitted that but if we see truth, make we talk am. Ukraine go take time make them recover from this war that US are using them to aim the world power in terms of weapons 2 Likes |
Re: Western Artillery Is Helping Ukrainian Forces Push Back Russian Invaders by Ballzproblemm: 3:55pm On Jun 09, 2022 |
salem1996:I don't care if they're fighting against west ,all I want is for Ukraine to expel Russia forces 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Western Artillery Is Helping Ukrainian Forces Push Back Russian Invaders by udmathew: 4:08pm On Jun 09, 2022 |
RichProminent: The HATE for US is just too much. Your not a Norwegian. What's your business if US is benefiting |
Re: Western Artillery Is Helping Ukrainian Forces Push Back Russian Invaders by gamechanger547: 4:08pm On Jun 09, 2022 |
Aljazeera Latest update on Ukraine war | Russia-Ukraine war Is Russia inching towards victory in Ukraine’s Donbas region? Al Jazeera’s Alex Gatopoulos examines whether new tactics and objectives are giving Russia an advantage in the Ukraine war. By Alex Gatopoulos Published On 9 Jun 2022 9 Jun 2022 In the battle for the Donbas, the fight over Severodonetsk has entered a crucial stage. Ukrainian units are locked in a desperate struggle with Russian infantry and armour intent on taking the city, which is at the eastern end of a Ukrainian defensive pocket now in serious danger of being cut in two. While maintaining a grip on the city, Russian forces to the south of this salient are also slowly advancing north in an attempt to cut the roads leading to the town of Bakhmut. To the north, Russian infantry and armour have been pushing south towards the strategically important towns of Sloviansk and Kramatorsk, with their vital rail junctions, crucial for the movement of supplies and vehicles given the vast distances that the war in eastern Ukraine involves. These two Russian thrusts are designed to pinch this ever-narrowing pocket, squeezing it until Severodonetsk and Lysychansk are cut off from the rest of Ukraine, effectively surrounding and besieging the Ukrainian units caught in the Russian pincer. New tactics Now in its fourth month, the war’s dynamic has changed. Russia has consolidated its forces, keeping its best troops for the operation in the Donbas while continuing to hold its positions elsewhere using reservists equipped with older tanks like the T-62. As Ukrainian air defence units pull back from the Severodonetsk pocket to avoid encirclement, Russia’s air force can now operate more safely, being threatened by shoulder-launched weapons which are only effective against low-flying aircraft. This has allowed the Russian air force to support the accompanying ground advance, pummeling the two besieged cities, already devastated by artillery and missile attacks. Russian forces are still making clumsy moves. In early May, more than a battalion’s worth of soldiers and armoured vehicles attempted to cross the Siversky Donets river to try and cut off the Ukrainian defenders in the two cities. The likely crossing site had been previously surveyed by Ukrainian forces as a probable spot for a pontoon bridge river crossing. Ukrainian artillery units had zeroed in on the coordinates and bunched up columns of Russian armour were spotted by drones as Russian forces waited for the bridge to be assembled. The resulting barrage devastated them, annihilating the Russian units and destroying the makeshift bridge in the process. Although still suffering tactical defeats, Russian forces are advancing. Improvements have been implemented after the initial debacle at the beginning of the war. Supply lines have been shortened, the gains now slower and more methodical as Russia’s high command slowly learns and adapts to the war in the east. Both sides now use drones effectively, the sight and sound of one usually a prelude to an artillery attack that in the flat terrain can have devastating consequences for units with relatively few places to hide. Artillery is the prime weapon of choice as duels are fought between the two armies. Foreign weapons systems, howitzers, tanks and multiple rocket launchers supplied to Ukraine by the West, are making themselves felt but also bringing their own problems. A war of logistics Sustained combat takes a toll not just on the people who fight but also on the equipment used. The barrels on artillery pieces get worn out after several thousand rounds, lose their accuracy and need to be replaced. The tracks on armoured vehicles need regular maintenance. Damaged vehicles can be fixed but this takes time and manpower. Russia’s troops have to deal with poor maintenance but Ukraine’s maintenance and repair crews now struggle to fix a variety of unfamiliar foreign systems for which there are few spare parts. Damaged tanks, vehicles and artillery have to be redrawn from vital sectors while they are being repaired by the few Ukrainian staff that are able to fix and turn them back into effective weapons. One of the few strategically smart moves on Russia’s part has been to strike at Ukrainian repair facilities far behind the front lines in an attempt to slow Ukraine’s repair cycle down, with the intent of eventually overwhelming the few serviceable Ukrainian weapons and vehicles left in the field. Russia is also starting to run low on armoured vehicles and artillery as the war takes its toll on equipment, with Russia’s economy not yet on a war footing. The conflict is now increasingly focused on logistics and grinding battles of attrition, with movement being limited to a series of small objectives that are all starting to mount up to show that Russia is slowly turning the tide. Russia’s casualties are heavy but at roughly 100 Ukrainian military deaths along with 400 to 500 wounded per day Ukraine is starting to lose some of its best soldiers as the country’s forces are caught up in a meat grinder that shows little sign of slowing down. INTERACTIVE Russia-Ukraine War Who controls what in Donbas DAY 106 Objectives, too, have changed. The closing of the Severdonetsk pocket aside, the focus is now on transport nodes like rail junctions vital in a conflict where soldiers, military vehicles and vital supplies have to move large distances and arrive fresh to fight. Trains are able to move hundreds of troops and thousands of tonnes at any one time, which is very useful to Russia’s military as it is able to sustain its advance towards its objectives, albeit at a slow and costly pace. Russia still has not suppressed Ukraine’s air force but it is not trying to. It is making slow gains and steady moves, using troops that are increasingly battle-hardened and keeping casualties relatively low when compared with its disastrously clumsy moves at the beginning of the invasion. The air force now works more efficiently supporting infantry and armoured units. NATO countries have worked together to keep Ukraine armed but are still reluctant to give Ukraine weapons systems that can attack targets inside Russia, fearing escalation involving a probable Russian declaration of war that would lead to the total focus of its economy on the conflict. An escalation of the war could lead to general conscription in Russia, which would vastly increase the size of the military forces at its disposal, albeit being poorly trained. The implied use of nuclear weapons would also never be too far off if the country felt it was being sufficiently threatened. The ultimate fear of NATO countries is that the war would rapidly slide out of control, triggering a nuclear conflagration, something everyone, even Russia, is keen to avoid. The war has raged for several months and there is now a race between Ukraine and Russia to see who exhausts the other first and, in this new phase of the conflict, who can keep supplied and armed as Russia slowly inches its way towards its goals and Ukraine fights on to grind down Russia’s advance in the Donbas. SOURCE: AL JAZEERA Follow Al Jazeera English: Al Jazeera Media Network logo © 2022 Al Jazeera Media Network Note that even Aljazeera is pro Western on Ukraine. How come Ukraine casualties is 100 per day and wounded is around 500 to 800 per day If Russia is making gains on ground? An Ukrainian soldier under unanimous consent said " Ukraine have lost over 50,000 soldiers" ! He even said that they're all exhausted and tired fighting but they're urgued by the west to keep on fighting. 1 Like |
Re: Western Artillery Is Helping Ukrainian Forces Push Back Russian Invaders by kiddkash(m): 4:10pm On Jun 09, 2022 |
Ballzproblemm:the aim is not for Ukraine to go up in flames. they could have done it with nukes. All the west will do is sanction. But none will ever dare enter Russia. Russia wants to draw this out and make Ukraine semi wasteland where no one wants to live, but the comic doesn't understand 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Western Artillery Is Helping Ukrainian Forces Push Back Russian Invaders by ebufa: 4:13pm On Jun 09, 2022 |
seunny4lif: i no fit laff..........what do people smoke on this forum ? 1 Like |
Re: Western Artillery Is Helping Ukrainian Forces Push Back Russian Invaders by Kingspin(m): 4:15pm On Jun 09, 2022 |
Kingsnairaland:Unknown to you what US is doing is what Russia is going and China. |
Re: Western Artillery Is Helping Ukrainian Forces Push Back Russian Invaders by Nobody: 4:15pm On Jun 09, 2022 |
No nation on earth can defeat Russia, forget the media hype/optics/stunts by western countries… How do you explain Ukraine fighting with 700k military force trained by NATO (combination of over 20 countries) plus mercenaries and still losing against Russia’s 200k military force who have gained ground in the donbass area (Donetsk and Luhansk region) and still advancing westward? Three mercenaries were sentenced to death today.. Believe western media at your own peril, they are full of fake news. 2 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Western Artillery Is Helping Ukrainian Forces Push Back Russian Invaders by salem1996: 4:19pm On Jun 09, 2022 |
Ballzproblemm: Hardest task they may never live to execute. Russia is well armed, the US weapons can only do much but personally, I think russia will only leave when they reach diplomatic agreement or have their way (take control of Donbas). 1 Like |
Re: Western Artillery Is Helping Ukrainian Forces Push Back Russian Invaders by salem1996: 4:24pm On Jun 09, 2022 |
Ballzproblemm: Expelling Russian forces is one of the hardest task Ukraine may never live to execute. Russians have gotten a good ground since seizing mariupol and the black see route. They can play the west if they want to at this moment because they seems to be more comfortable due to their mass grains and seizing the wheat port add to their advantage. They will either leave after seizing Donbas (which is their prime target) , or diplomatic agreement 1 Like |
Re: Western Artillery Is Helping Ukrainian Forces Push Back Russian Invaders by Ballzproblemm: 4:37pm On Jun 09, 2022 |
kiddkash:stop being ignorant,if one nuclear missile goes out of it silo, the United States and other countries will respond ,same goes to United States too , a single misslie will lead. to MAD (mutual assured distruction 2 Likes |
Re: Western Artillery Is Helping Ukrainian Forces Push Back Russian Invaders by kiddkash(m): 4:43pm On Jun 09, 2022 |
Ballzproblemm:then everyone dies, but those people love themselves and will never be a guinea pig for other people's problem, which is why they abandoned afghan to their problems 2 Likes |
Re: Western Artillery Is Helping Ukrainian Forces Push Back Russian Invaders by planetx: 5:13pm On Jun 09, 2022 |
The pictures you uploaded are not artillery but multiple launch rockets system. This are artillery( self propelled howitzers). 2 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Western Artillery Is Helping Ukrainian Forces Push Back Russian Invaders by Nobody: 6:08pm On Jun 09, 2022 |
Ballzproblemm:Wrong! If Ukraine is nuked, the US and it’s allies will not return the favor. No one will risk MAD for Ukraine, not US/UK and certainly not Europe or any NATO allies who will all become targets. NATO will defend every inch of nato territory but it does not include Ukraine which is not a NATO nation. It will simply end in sanctions. But in retrospect, Russia will never nuke Ukraine because it will amount to killing an ant with a sledgehammer. Russia is fighting with a peacetime corps(150k army). The worse case would be to declare total war on Ukraine and order a general conscription which the west is also keen to avoid. 2 Likes |
Re: Western Artillery Is Helping Ukrainian Forces Push Back Russian Invaders by Dscop: 6:17pm On Jun 09, 2022 |
Kingsnairaland: Here you go, something more for you to weep over. Since God has refused to bless you or it that your prayers are useless? Bunch of Putin's lapdogs.
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Re: Western Artillery Is Helping Ukrainian Forces Push Back Russian Invaders by caracas: 6:19pm On Jun 09, 2022 |
Kingsnairaland:Russia is lucky it has nuclear weapons, otherwise the US would have occupied their country by now |
Re: Western Artillery Is Helping Ukrainian Forces Push Back Russian Invaders by caracas: 6:27pm On Jun 09, 2022 |
Goddson:Pls go back to school, your level of ignorance is really annoying… 1 Like |
Re: Western Artillery Is Helping Ukrainian Forces Push Back Russian Invaders by Moseskuti53(m): 7:07pm On Jun 09, 2022 |
unclejb2:Abeg wat use is a rifle against all the invader weapons u jxt listed?? |
Re: Western Artillery Is Helping Ukrainian Forces Push Back Russian Invaders by unclejb2(m): 7:56pm On Jun 09, 2022 |
Moseskuti53:it gives you a chance of survival 1 Like |
Re: Western Artillery Is Helping Ukrainian Forces Push Back Russian Invaders by Mohzus: 8:30pm On Jun 09, 2022 |
pansophist: I'm sorry to say sir but respectfully it'll be better to stick to the redpill and been a better man than economics , you suck at it . |
Re: Western Artillery Is Helping Ukrainian Forces Push Back Russian Invaders by JudgeWilson(m): 8:49pm On Jun 09, 2022 |
[quote author=Ballzproblemm post=113635425]Russia military is weak it has been over 3 months and Russia military have not made any substantial progress Russia is not fighting Ukraine alone, Russia is fighting Europe and America combine. |
Re: Western Artillery Is Helping Ukrainian Forces Push Back Russian Invaders by pansophist(m): 9:18pm On Jun 09, 2022 |
Mohzus: Okay, thanks for your feedback. But I know of a better alternative, how about challenge the points I've written instead of telling me shut up? Isn't it common sense? 4 Likes |
Re: Western Artillery Is Helping Ukrainian Forces Push Back Russian Invaders by pansophist(m): 9:20pm On Jun 09, 2022 |
MansoryMX: How can Ukraine be winning when they've lost territories to Russia the size of Netherlands, Belgium and Luxembourg combined? With millions of Ukrainian refugees scattered all around Europe? 5 Likes |
Re: Western Artillery Is Helping Ukrainian Forces Push Back Russian Invaders by Appleyard(m): 9:25pm On Jun 09, 2022 |
seunny4lif:I thought I was the only one who noticed it. LMAO 1 Like |
Re: Western Artillery Is Helping Ukrainian Forces Push Back Russian Invaders by pansophist(m): 9:25pm On Jun 09, 2022 |
Ballzproblemm: They will respond with sanctions, smearing, cancelling, boycotting, banning, denying, demonising and hating everything Russia. That will be their response. But if you think the west will risk being nuked to ashes because of Ukraine, then you don't know how shit works. Ukraine is a pawn, and a puppeteer will not risk his life for a disposable puppet. They simply dump it and move to another one. Maybe the next puppet will be Kazakhstan, or North Korea or even Nigeria. Nuke Russia lol, ever heard of MAD? 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Western Artillery Is Helping Ukrainian Forces Push Back Russian Invaders by Appleyard(m): 9:28pm On Jun 09, 2022 |
Ballzproblemm: Define 'substantial gains' vis-a-vis a territory such as Ukraine. But don't worry. Calculate 20% of Ukrainian territory, measured it with England and Wales, and come back with the answer. Maybe that would clear your eyes. 2 Likes |
Re: Western Artillery Is Helping Ukrainian Forces Push Back Russian Invaders by RedScorpion(f): 9:34pm On Jun 09, 2022 |
DannyFX2638: You that is not Dumb headed, look well and you will see the Ukrainian badge (flag) on the arm of the soldiers.... I don't know why some of you like throwing insults in Nairaland. If it helps you massage your ego, then go ahead. Russia has been selling some of their old Soviet era weapons to the West. Now some of those weapons have been donated to Ukraine by Western countries. By the way.... Going by your moniker, Do you trade Forex ? If you do, I will like to teach you some Ukrainian techniques for making money in the market........ I want to donate Strategy to you the same way the west is donating weapons to Ukraine.. |
Re: Western Artillery Is Helping Ukrainian Forces Push Back Russian Invaders by Appleyard(m): 9:48pm On Jun 09, 2022 |
shogsman:Not just substantial progress, but 75% of mission achieved. Once Severedonetsk and Lysichansk falls totally, it would be mission completed. Already, the captured Azov guys are now being readied for trial for all the crimes they committed for the past 8 years against the people of Dombass. Meanwhile, in Kherson and Melitopol, thousands of people are now cueing up and getting their Russian passports. I watched one Ukrainian military commander who and his wife defected to Russia's side and got his passport also. The Russian Rouble has been introduced into the Dombass region as means of payment and settlement for goods and services, working side by side the Ukie currency for now. Russia is now almost fully entrenched in the East, and once those two remaining cities fall completely, it would be game over for Kiev and its sponsors because there would be nothing left to go back to since the Dombass region account for 80% of Ukrainian economic power in terms of agriculture and industries. Zelensky was foolish to have allowed this war to progress this far. Well, once a puppet always a puppet. Adieu Ukraine. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Western Artillery Is Helping Ukrainian Forces Push Back Russian Invaders by RedScorpion(f): 9:55pm On Jun 09, 2022 |
planetx: Ok thanks ... Noted. You must be a good weapons analyst and Specialist.... |
Re: Western Artillery Is Helping Ukrainian Forces Push Back Russian Invaders by Appleyard(m): 9:59pm On Jun 09, 2022 |
pansophist:He that has an ear, let him hear. 3 Likes 1 Share |
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