Oasis007:


I guess PMB/PYO ain't a disaster as you Guys are claiming?!

izzou:


I understand your tough love for BAT. But how you guys want to justify this Muslim Muslim combo baffles me.

If truly we want this country to be peaceful and progressive, you'll know this is going to be a disaster waiting to happen.

You can’t use a state as a specimen for a country. Is Nigeria 80% Muslims?

I understand your party needs to do everything to win, but what is wrong is wrong.

raumdeuter:


Since Buhari-Idiagbon regime 37yrs ago, We have been having Moslem-Christian in Nigeria, How has that affected anyone?
Osinbajo is a Pastor, Jonathan is a Christian, Buhari na Ustaz, how did that help anyone?

Setting the country on the path of development is the most important thing and if a fire spitting Amadioha worshipper is the one to deliver that then so be it

Oasis007:


My lil Mum (Aunty) is a Pastor, CAC Pastor precisely. Her Children and I are so closed and so much love each other.

I've attended their Churches programme many times. You can't use Religion's card to divide Yoruba, coz it's not gonna work.

izzou:


You are in Texas sir, so the way you view and see issues, is not how we see it here.

Someone was burnt here for typing Holy Ghost fire in a WhatsApp group. I don't think American Muslims would do that.

Religious lines have proven to be delicate here

izzou:


You are in Texas sir, so the way you view and see issues, is not how we see it here.

Someone was burnt here for typing Holy Ghost fire in a WhatsApp group. I don't think American Muslims would do that.

Religious lines have proven to be delicate here

izzou:


You did not answer my question, sir.

Why are you defending it?

Oasis007:


I guess PMB/PYO ain't a disaster as you Guys are claiming?!

Android17:
Religion plays a minimal/maximum role depending on geopolitical zone. The issue with your argument is that you assume it is always maximum and in every geopolitical zone.

raumdeuter:


I wasnt born in Texas, before I left Nigeria things like that have been happening from time immemorial. I was in Nigeria when Shariah was declared and riots went on in most places in Nigeria under Obasanjo a Christian. Did OBJ stop Christians from getting killed? Did GEJ stop Christians from getting killed? Did Buhari stop Moslems from getting killed? Did Osinbajo stop Owo massacre

I still struggle to understand how the religion of the President and vice stop killings or the Holy Ghost fire on whatsapp group killing

izzou:


You are in Texas sir, so the way you view and see issues, is not how we see it here.

Someone was burnt here for typing Holy Ghost fire in a WhatsApp group. I don't think American Muslims would do that.

Religious lines have proven to be delicate here

Oasis007:


I really don't grab how you're so much fixated on Religion ish. You want a prosperous Nigeria, but you're ready to sacrifice it for Religion.

If its Christian/Christian Ticket that gonna fix Nigeria.... so be it. I do tell People around me, our major Problem in Nigeria is Religion.

On Paper, UAE is an Islamic Country. In a Reality, its as secular as United Fuckin States of America. All the Ish of Alcohol Bans are simply on Paper, visit Dubai and see things.

Forget Abu Hail, Deira Axis, jez spend some nice time at Downtown, JBR or Marina Axis and see the true Nature of Dubai.

I really don't give a fúck, I just want Nigeria to be fixed. Do you really believe Tinubu is a practicing Muslim? Tinubu is a nominal Muslim, a political Muslim like Ademola Adeleke.

Northerners know the Truth, that's why they are insisting on Tinubu/Muslim Ticket.

BlueRayDick:


u are delibrately missing the point. The point is Nigeria is tensed religiously presently, u see MURIC and CAN attacking each other while reacting to the same headline, u see what is happening in Southern Kaduna and how they feel there's a government backed agenda to annihilate the Christians, etc. U've heard pastors telling Members to defend themselves, u've seen ESN guys killed a woman just because she's on hijab which identify her to be a Muslim....


If APC flies a Muslim-Muslim ticket that eventually wins, I can bet u things will get worse than we have it now. Religious intolerance will get worse than u have it now ; both major religions will launch offensives unprovoked and the media will gaslight as much as possible.

For the sake of national peace, a Muslim-Muslim ticket is not advisable at this time. Even Kola Abiola over the weekend on a radio programme said the circumstance that led to his father's Muslim-Muslim ticket winning back then in 1993 is not the same as 2022. A lot of religious crises has happened since then, a lot of bad blood has been stored up.

Oasis007:


If we continue on that path, then we should forget a working Nigeria. An innocent, pregnant northern Woman and her 4 Kids were killed in the East for what happened in the North.

Ain't that madness of highest order? We need to put aside our Religion extremism, if really we want to get Naija fixed.

It's not only Northerners that are extremists, Southerners are also extremists.

BlueRayDick:


u are delibrately missing the point. The point is Nigeria is tensed religiously presently, u see MURIC and CAN attacking each other while reacting to the same headline, u see what is happening in Southern Kaduna and how they feel there's a government backed agenda to annihilate the Christians, etc. U've heard pastors telling Members to defend themselves, u've seen ESN guys killed a woman just because she's on hijab which identify her to be a Muslim....


If APC flies a Muslim-Muslim ticket that eventually wins, I can bet u things will get worse than we have it now. Religious intolerance will get worse than u have it now ; both major religions will launch offensives unprovoked and the media will gaslight as much as possible.

For the sake of national peace, a Muslim-Muslim ticket is not advisable at this time. Even Kola Abiola over the weekend on a radio programme said the circumstance that led to his father's Muslim-Muslim ticket winning back then in 1993 is not the same as 2022. A lot of religious crises has happened since then, a lot of bad blood has been stored up.

izzou:


SW is not the only region in Nigeria.

If it is minimal there, should we assume that others should be automatically minimal?

For the country, it is a maximum issue

iamoyindamola:

From my observation we have 2 major religions
Nigerians are too religious if Christian become president and vp Muslims will come out that they want to turn Nigeria to Christian country
Same thing if Muslim become president and vp Christians will come out
I think that's why it has been equal

izzou:


SW is not the only region in Nigeria.

If it is minimal there, should we assume that others should be automatically minimal?

For the country, it is a maximum issue

raumdeuter:


Then the part where religion is a maximum for them will vote the other options

I can say those who wont vote APC for Moslem Moslem wont vote APC is CAN president was made the VP sef

So what gives?

BlueRayDick:


u are delibrately missing the point. The point is Nigeria is tensed religiously presently, u see MURIC and CAN attacking each other while reacting to the same headline, u see what is happening in Southern Kaduna and how they feel there's a government backed agenda to annihilate the Christians, etc. U've heard pastors telling Members to defend themselves, u've seen ESN guys killed a woman just because she's on hijab which identify her to be a Muslim....


If APC flies a Muslim-Muslim ticket that eventually wins, I can bet u things will get worse than we have it now. Religious intolerance will get worse than u have it now ; both major religions will launch offensives unprovoked and the media will gaslight as much as possible.

For the sake of national peace, a Muslim-Muslim ticket is not advisable at this time. Even Kola Abiola over the weekend on a radio programme said the circumstance that led to his father's Muslim-Muslim ticket winning back then in 1993 is not the same as 2022. A lot of religious crises has happened since then, a lot of bad blood has been stored up.

Android17:
It plays a role in the North (NW, NE NC) maximally. I concede. South East and South South the same. Southwest is polarized. Now let us sub-analyze it. It favors the northern candidate to be Muslim. SE & SS, Christian and SW could be either or fairly equally.

As you can see, the 2 Geopolitical zones that care about it being Christian are zones that APC would have still lost in even if they used a Christian candidate. Same way PDP will lose in the SW even if they match the religion of the APC candidate. So the battleground zone, which is now the North will require the candidate for both parties to be from that zone and also have the 'favored' religion in that enclave. That way they can 'battle' it out. That is why APC need a candidate like El Rufai. He ticks both boxes.

izzou:


You are talking to an educated guy, so I understand.

There are millions of people in this country that would interpret it in a different way.

If Tinubu was a Christian and picks Dogara (a Christian), you will support him. What about the ones in the NW and NE? How would they perceive that?

izzou:


I am pointing out the insensitivity of that choice.

I have no statistics of whoever would, or would not vote

iamoyindamola:

Wait are you really a Muslim

raumdeuter:


Religion has always been a flashpoint in Nigeria. I remember back in 1992 when we were in church praying for Zango Kataf and Zamani Lekwot because of the religious crisis in Southern Kaduna. That was the time MKO did a Moslem-Moslem ticket that won. Someone younger will think religious conflicts are recent happenings

If APC flies that ticket, its left to Nigerians to vote it down in favour of any ticket they desire

Oasis007:


Atiku's running mate is a Christian from South. Obi, a Christian from South, would definitely pick a northern Muslim.

Thus, we don't want a Muslim/Muslim Ticket to win, we've got other Options.

Oasis007:


Of course.... I am a Muslim.

raumdeuter:


Parties decide on which choices will give the highest chances of winning. If APC decides that pairing El Rufai gives them the chance of winning then they will do it

PDP jeopardized zoning to the South and gave Atiku a Northerner the ticket not minding if it will be insensitive to have another Fulani do another 8yrs after one Fulani

Political parties are not in the business of catering to sensitivities, after winning you can decide the rest

It's alright.

I rest my case

izzou:


But then, after winning. What next?

We live peacefully ever after. You think so?

izzou:


You are in Texas sir, so the way you view and see issues, is not how we see it here.

Someone was burnt here for typing Holy Ghost fire in a WhatsApp group. I don't think American Muslims would do that.

Religious lines have proven to be delicate here

izzou:


But then, after winning. What next?

We live peacefully ever after. You think so?

BlueRayDick:


Yes Zango Kataf crisis happened but things have gone worse. People are getting massacred in churches, ESN is killing people for looking like Muslims, different parties are resorting to self help in the face of government's failure to ensure justice is served ; A Muslim-Muslim ticket can only take the religious intolerance to a higher level.

Now we have CAN release press statements that looked like giving the government ultimatum before resorting to self help, now we have videos of pastors telling members to defend themselves littering all over the Internet, now we have MURIC telling government to protect the rights of Muslims....other wise.

If u have lived in some parts of north west and north east where they have Christians and Muslims, u will understand the kind of tension that's between these two major religions. Na southwest we dey follow each other do Eid and Christmas ó.