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Operation Barbarossa & The Ukrainian Crisis by Elbinawi: 5:51pm On Jun 22, 2022
Operation Barbarossa & the Ukrainian Crisis

On this day in 1941, Nazi Germany began its invasion of the Soviet Union during WWII, also known as Operation Barbarossa.

In my opinion this is the biggest blunder that Adolf Hitler made in the Second World War, opening a second front. Hitler should have concentrated on defeating England and occupying London. Germany has the most powerful army in Europe then.

After the cowardly capitulation of France, Hitler thought Germany was invincible and his army will reach Moscow in less than one month. The Moscow that he never saw it lights. The former Soviet Union counterattacked and though around 27 million people in the Soviet Union alone were killed in the war, more than 70% of Germany soldiers that died in WWII were killed in the Russian front.

Hitler's arrogance reminded me of the arrogance of the French Emperor Napoleon Bonaparte. At the height of his power Napoleon thought he was invincible and in 1812 he invaded Russia. Unlike Hitler, Napoleon reached Moscow but the Russians refused to surrender. The scorch earth policy of the Russians defeated Napoleon and forced him to retreat in less than 6 months. That was one of the worst retreats in the history of military warfare as more than half of his soldiers died.

Russians are historically resilient people that does not easily give up. Relating the above history with what is happening today, American arrogance pushed it to bait Russia with #Ukraine. The goal was to entrapped Russia, weakened it and dominate it. America and Western hegemony thought with their economic might their sanctions will destroy the Russian economy but the reverse is happening today. Western economies are suffering the brunt of Western sanctions while the Russian currency continue to wax stronger.

From all indication the Ukrainian crisis will only accelerate the decline of Western hegemony, the biggest evil since the beginning of human creation. Western hegemony has invaded almost all nations of the world and killed hundreds of millions innocent civilians. For the past 300 years more than 90% of all genocides perpetrated in the world were by Western powers. In 1884 during the infamous Berlin Conference, European powers sat down and shared the African continent like loaf of bread � in a breakfast. Hundreds of thousands of indigenous people of Africa were brutally slaughtered by the Western hegemonic barbarians. The Germans almost wipeout Namibia from existence. The Belgian King Leopold II murdered more than 10 million Congolese civilians. The British killed more than quarter of million people in Kenya. And the Italians failed to defeat the ancient Christian Empire of Ethiopia. The rest is history.

On a final note, the biggest victim of the Ukrainian crisis is the country Ukraine that is being used as pawn to further the evil agenda of US imperialism, arrogance and terrorism.

Harun Elbinawi
elbinawi@yahoo.com
Elbinawi.

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Re: Operation Barbarossa & The Ukrainian Crisis by VeryWickedMan: 5:53pm On Jun 22, 2022
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Re: Operation Barbarossa & The Ukrainian Crisis by PharoahIII: 6:20pm On Jun 22, 2022
Hitler did not really want to fight the British. Within his inner circle he was recorded to have wished that the British would come over to his side. But they were as aversed to National Socialism as Hitler was to Bolshevism. It was a battle of ideologies. Hitler couldn't stand bolsheviks. And also I feel there was a deep-seated desire within him to succeed where his mentor Bonaparte had failed. Hence he attacked the USSR.
Re: Operation Barbarossa & The Ukrainian Crisis by wirinet(m): 6:30pm On Jun 22, 2022
PharoahIII:
Hitler did not really want to fight the British. Within his inner circle he was recorded to have wished that the British would come over to his side. But they were as aversed to National Socialism as Hitler was to Bolshevism. It was a battle of ideologies. Hitler couldn't stand bolsheviks. And also I feel there was a deep-seated desire within him to succeed where his mentor Bonaparte had failed. Hence he attacked the USSR.

Hitters attack on Russia was strategic. He was running out of fuel and needed the oil rich caucuses for its huge oil reserves. He could not invade Britain as his navy was the weakest link in the war. There was no way he could carry out a full scale invasion on the island nation. What eventually cost Hitler the war was his inability to capture the caucasian oil fields. He simply ran out of oil. The Russian front was just too wide and maintaining supply lines became impossible.
Re: Operation Barbarossa & The Ukrainian Crisis by joyandfaith: 7:11pm On Jun 22, 2022
About 30% Ukrainians were part of Soviet Army. Stalin was a Georgian and he was from Caucasus region.
Soviet minorities play huge role in success of soviet Army. Also,lend-lease act helped USSR to get needed supplies from UK and USA.
Defensive war is different from offensive war. Russian empire won Napoleon Army. Russians defended. They did not attack. Nazi Army invaded USSR. In military doctrine, to subdue a nation successful, x3 of military forces are required. Nazi and Napoleon Armies did not have the numbers. So they lost.

Russia can subdue Ukraine as soon as possible if Putin is ready to order general mobilisation. If he does that, the war would be brutal. Can Putin afford to sacrifice 500k soldiers because he wants to grab more lands? 500k KIA usually mean 1.5 WIA.
Note that 10 to 15% of forces are used in active combats. Other personnels are usually involved in logistics-medical, maintenance, supplies etc.

With above information, 4M kia or wia mean Russia need to mobilise about 15M men to fight Ukraine combined forces of about 5M( general mobilisation)with 10 to 15% of them in combat zone.

At what cost?
The cost would be too much for Russia and Ukraine. China will help to rebuild Russia thereafter while EU/USA would rebuild Ukraine.

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Re: Operation Barbarossa & The Ukrainian Crisis by Bentizil: 8:34pm On Jun 22, 2022
joyandfaith:
About 30% Ukrainians were part of Soviet Army. Stalin was a Georgian and he was from Caucasus region.
Soviet minorities play huge role in success of soviet Army. Also,lend-lease act helped USSR to get needed supplies from UK and USA.
Defensive war is different from offensive war. Russian empire won Napoleon Army. Russians defended. They did not attack. Nazi Army invaded USSR. In military doctrine, to subdue a nation successful, x3 of military forces are required. Nazi and Napoleon Armies did not have the numbers. So they lost.

Russia can subdue Ukraine as soon as possible if Putin is ready to order general mobilisation. If he does that, the war would be brutal. Can Putin afford to sacrifice 500k soldiers because he wants to grab more lands? 500k KIA usually mean 1.5 WIA.
Note that 10 to 15% of forces are used in active combats. Other personnels are usually involved in logistics-medical, maintenance, supplies etc.

With above information, 4M kia or wia mean Russia need to mobilise about 15M men to fight Ukraine combined forces of about 5M( general mobilisation)with 10 to 15% of them in combat zone.

At what cost?
The cost would be too much for Russia and Ukraine. China will help to rebuild Russia thereafter while EU/USA would rebuild Ukraine.
No one ask you about the ethnic composition of Soviet union or the ethnicity of Stalin...
Stay on line and stop trying to underrate the massive that was dealth to Nazi Germany..

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Re: Operation Barbarossa & The Ukrainian Crisis by Bentizil: 8:34pm On Jun 22, 2022
joyandfaith:
About 30% Ukrainians were part of Soviet Army. Stalin was a Georgian and he was from Caucasus region.
Soviet minorities play huge role in success of soviet Army. Also,lend-lease act helped USSR to get needed supplies from UK and USA.
Defensive war is different from offensive war. Russian empire won Napoleon Army. Russians defended. They did not attack. Nazi Army invaded USSR. In military doctrine, to subdue a nation successful, x3 of military forces are required. Nazi and Napoleon Armies did not have the numbers. So they lost.

Russia can subdue Ukraine as soon as possible if Putin is ready to order general mobilisation. If he does that, the war would be brutal. Can Putin afford to sacrifice 500k soldiers because he wants to grab more lands? 500k KIA usually mean 1.5 WIA.
Note that 10 to 15% of forces are used in active combats. Other personnels are usually involved in logistics-medical, maintenance, supplies etc.

With above information, 4M kia or wia mean Russia need to mobilise about 15M men to fight Ukraine combined forces of about 5M( general mobilisation)with 10 to 15% of them in combat zone.

At what cost?
The cost would be too much for Russia and Ukraine. China will help to rebuild Russia thereafter while EU/USA would rebuild Ukraine.
No one ask you about the ethnic composition of Soviet union or the ethnicity of Stalin...
Stay on line and stop trying to underrate the massive blow that was dealth to Nazi Germany..
cheesy
joyandfaith:
About 30% Ukrainians were part of Soviet Army. Stalin was a Georgian and he was from Caucasus region.
Soviet minorities play huge role in success of soviet Army. Also,lend-lease act helped USSR to get needed supplies from UK and USA.
Defensive war is different from offensive war. Russian empire won Napoleon Army. Russians defended. They did not attack. Nazi Army invaded USSR. In military doctrine, to subdue a nation successful, x3 of military forces are required. Nazi and Napoleon Armies did not have the numbers. So they lost.

Russia can subdue Ukraine as soon as possible if Putin is ready to order general mobilisation. If he does that, the war would be brutal. Can Putin afford to sacrifice 500k soldiers because he wants to grab more lands? 500k KIA usually mean 1.5 WIA.
Note that 10 to 15% of forces are used in active combats. Other personnels are usually involved in logistics-medical, maintenance, supplies etc.

With above information, 4M kia or wia mean Russia need to mobilise about 15M men to fight Ukraine combined forces of about 5M( general mobilisation)with 10 to 15% of them in combat zone.

At what cost?
The cost would be too much for Russia and Ukraine. China will help to rebuild Russia thereafter while EU/USA would rebuild Ukraine.
No one ask you about the ethnic composition of Soviet union or the ethnicity of Stalin...
Stay on line and stop trying to underrate the massive blow that was dealth to Nazi Germany..
Re: Operation Barbarossa & The Ukrainian Crisis by seunny4lif(m): 9:20pm On Jun 22, 2022
Bulgarian Pro-EU Government was ousted in a No-Confidence Vote minutes ago as most Bulgarians are against sanctions and Bulgaria repairing weapons for Ukraine

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Re: Operation Barbarossa & The Ukrainian Crisis by joyandfaith: 10:35pm On Jun 22, 2022
Bentizil:

No one ask you about the ethnic composition of Soviet union or the ethnicity of Stalin...
Stay on line and stop trying to underrate the massive that was dealth to Nazi Germany..
My post is for those who can connect the dots not for shallow thinkers.
Soviet casualties were more than of NAZI army.
Re: Operation Barbarossa & The Ukrainian Crisis by Bentizil: 10:44pm On Jun 22, 2022
joyandfaith:

My post is for those who can connect the dots not for shallow thinkers.
Soviet casualties were more than of NAZI army.
My reply is to prevent the spread of ignorance to nairaland populace..

No one is talking about casualties here, the thread is not about that...
Re: Operation Barbarossa & The Ukrainian Crisis by joyandfaith: 11:08pm On Jun 22, 2022
Bentizil:

My reply is to prevent the spread of ignorance to nairaland populace..

No one is talking about casualties here, the thread is not about that.
We don't want half-information. Deep thinkers want to see full picture. Shallow thinkers are interested in superficial knowledge.
Re: Operation Barbarossa & The Ukrainian Crisis by ken6488(m): 11:17pm On Jun 22, 2022
PharoahIII:
Hitler did not really want to fight the British. Within his inner circle he was recorded to have wished that the British would come over to his side. But they were as aversed to National Socialism as Hitler was to Bolshevism. It was a battle of ideologies. Hitler couldn't stand bolsheviks. And also I feel there was a deep-seated desire within him to succeed where his mentor Bonaparte had failed. Hence he attacked the USSR.
Wrong history Hitler Hope to seize ussr resources and bring UK to her feat
Re: Operation Barbarossa & The Ukrainian Crisis by ken6488(m): 11:19pm On Jun 22, 2022
joyandfaith:
About 30% Ukrainians were part of Soviet Army. Stalin was a Georgian and he was from Caucasus region.
Soviet minorities play huge role in success of soviet Army. Also,lend-lease act helped USSR to get needed supplies from UK and USA.
Defensive war is different from offensive war. Russian empire won Napoleon Army. Russians defended. They did not attack. Nazi Army invaded USSR. In military doctrine, to subdue a nation successful, x3 of military forces are required. Nazi and Napoleon Armies did not have the numbers. So they lost.

Russia can subdue Ukraine as soon as possible if Putin is ready to order general mobilisation. If he does that, the war would be brutal. Can Putin afford to sacrifice 500k soldiers because he wants to grab more lands? 500k KIA usually mean 1.5 WIA.
Note that 10 to 15% of forces are used in active combats. Other personnels are usually involved in logistics-medical, maintenance, supplies etc.

With above information, 4M kia or wia mean Russia need to mobilise about 15M men to fight Ukraine combined forces of about 5M( general mobilisation)with 10 to 15% of them in combat zone.

At what cost?
The cost would be too much for Russia and Ukraine. China will help to rebuild Russia thereafter while EU/USA would rebuild Ukraine.
Oga do you think we are children the grand armee was the largest military back then

Dominated Europe and marched on Russia but lost
Re: Operation Barbarossa & The Ukrainian Crisis by joyandfaith: 11:26pm On Jun 22, 2022
ken6488:
Oga do you think we are children the grand armee was the largest military back then

Dominated Europe and marched on Russia but lost

Best army can loose war especially if your aim is to subdue a nation or grab their lands. There are different war objectives . Offensive warfare is different from defensive one.
Even Russia lost first Chenchen- Russia war. You can check it. USSR lost their Afghanistan campaign. USA lost their campaign in Vietman.
Re: Operation Barbarossa & The Ukrainian Crisis by greatness77: 12:31pm On Jun 23, 2022
Elbinawi:
Operation Barbarossa & the Ukrainian Crisis

On this day in 1941, Nazi Germany began its invasion of the Soviet Union during WWII, also known as Operation Barbarossa.

In my opinion this is the biggest blunder that Adolf Hitler made in the Second World War, opening a second front. Hitler should have concentrated on defeating England and occupying London. Germany has the most powerful army in Europe then.

After the cowardly capitulation of France, Hitler thought Germany was invincible and his army will reach Moscow in less than one month. The Moscow that he never saw it lights. The former Soviet Union counterattacked and though around 27 million people in the Soviet Union alone were killed in the war, more than 70% of Germany soldiers that died in WWII were killed in the Russian front.

Hitler's arrogance reminded me of the arrogance of the French Emperor Napoleon Bonaparte. At the height of his power Napoleon thought he was invincible and in 1812 he invaded Russia. Unlike Hitler, Napoleon reached Moscow but the Russians refused to surrender. The scorch earth policy of the Russians defeated Napoleon and forced him to retreat in less than 6 months. That was one of the worst retreats in the history of military warfare as more than half of his soldiers died.

Russians are historically resilient people that does not easily give up. Relating the above history with what is happening today, American arrogance pushed it to bait Russia with #Ukraine. The goal was to entrapped Russia, weakened it and dominate it. America and Western hegemony thought with their economic might their sanctions will destroy the Russian economy but the reverse is happening today. Western economies are suffering the brunt of Western sanctions while the Russian currency continue to wax stronger.

From all indication the Ukrainian crisis will only accelerate the decline of Western hegemony, the biggest evil since the beginning of human creation. Western hegemony has invaded almost all nations of the world and killed hundreds of millions innocent civilians. For the past 300 years more than 90% of all genocides perpetrated in the world were by Western powers. In 1884 during the infamous Berlin Conference, European powers sat down and shared the African continent like loaf of bread � in a breakfast. Hundreds of thousands of indigenous people of Africa were brutally slaughtered by the Western hegemonic barbarians. The Germans almost wipeout Namibia from existence. The Belgian King Leopold II murdered more than 10 million Congolese civilians. The British killed more than quarter of million people in Kenya. And the Italians failed to defeat the ancient Christian Empire of Ethiopia. The rest is history.

On a final note, the biggest victim of the Ukrainian crisis is the country Ukraine that is being used as pawn to further the evil agenda of US imperialism, arrogance and terrorism.

Harun Elbinawi
elbinawi@yahoo.com
Elbinawi.
this reminds me of swedish empire, when they invaded russia, russians defeated dem, occupied some of their land, and usa is afraid of this scenario because if usa invade Russia, usa will loose Alaska to Russians
Re: Operation Barbarossa & The Ukrainian Crisis by Dvdpity: 12:45pm On Jun 23, 2022
joyandfaith:
About 30% Ukrainians were part of Soviet Army. Stalin was a Georgian and he was from Caucasus region.
Soviet minorities play huge role in success of soviet Army. Also,lend-lease act helped USSR to get needed supplies from UK and USA.
Defensive war is different from offensive war. Russian empire won Napoleon Army. Russians defended. They did not attack. Nazi Army invaded USSR. In military doctrine, to subdue a nation successful, x3 of military forces are required. Nazi and Napoleon Armies did not have the numbers. So they lost.

Russia can subdue Ukraine as soon as possible if Putin is ready to order general mobilisation. If he does that, the war would be brutal. Can Putin afford to sacrifice 500k soldiers because he wants to grab more lands? 500k KIA usually mean 1.5 WIA.
Note that 10 to 15% of forces are used in active combats. Other personnels are usually involved in logistics-medical, maintenance, supplies etc.

With above information, 4M kia or wia mean Russia need to mobilise about 15M men to fight Ukraine combined forces of about 5M( general mobilisation)with 10 to 15% of them in combat zone.

At what cost?
The cost would be too much for Russia and Ukraine. China will help to rebuild Russia thereafter while EU/USA would rebuild Ukraine.

This is the problems of western military analysis. The military hardware these days are terrific destructive than in many years and russia posses it all..so recalibrate your analysis. with the heavy destruction of all the heavy military equipment supplied to Ukraine now was that Ukraine will defeat Russia.
Re: Operation Barbarossa & The Ukrainian Crisis by joyandfaith: 2:14pm On Jun 23, 2022
Dvdpity:


This is the problems of western military analysis. The military hardware these days are terrific destructive than in many years and russia posses it all..so recalibrate your analysis. with the heavy destruction of all the heavy military equipment supplied to Ukraine now was that Ukraine will defeat Russia.

This is the problems of easttern military analysis. The military hardware these days are terrific destructive than in many years and Ukraine posses some of them..so recalibrate your analysis. with the destruction of many of the Russia military equipments when would Russia end the war in Ukraine.

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