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Germany: We Can't Plunder Our Military For The Sake Of Ukraine by Hanibbal(m): 7:15am On Jul 08, 2022
Germany refuses to ‘plunder its own military’ for the sake of Ukraine

Germany has said it doesn’t want to “plunder its own military” as it refuses to send armoured vehicles to Ukraine.

Berlin has rejected a request to deliver around 200 Fuchs armoured personnel carriers to Kyiv, citing a need to preserve the country’s own security interests.

“We support Ukraine with everything that is possible and responsible. But we have to ensure Germany’s ability to defend itself,” Christine Lambrecht, the German defence minister, told the German Press Agency on Thursday.

“It is therefore irresponsible to plunder the Bundeswehr (German military), especially in these times, and even to ignore the military advice of the General Inspector.”

Ms Lambrecht said her decision was made pursuant to military advice.

General Inspector Eberhard Zorn – Germany’s highest-ranking soldier – has previously said the military did not have enough leeway to let Ukraine have the vehicles, although it is unclear exactly how many the German military have in stock.

It comes as German MPs are set to limit their consumption of hot water in anticipation of an energy shortage over the winter months.

Members of the German parliament are expected to set an example to the public as electricity prices soar to record highs and households are encouraged to save as much heat and power as possible.

The move will see all 1,800 instant boilers that provide warm water for bathroom sinks in Berlin’s parliament buildings switched off, according to a report in Der Tagesspiegel.

Germany’s opposition Christian Democrats (CDU) wanted the Government’s support in pushing through a vote in parliament on Thursday to allow for the short-term delivery of the personnel carriers.

The CDU said it was acting in accordance with a previous commitment by the German government made at the end of April to supply Ukraine with heavy weapons.

“For the Ukrainian army, it is a matter of quickly sending reliable material that can be deployed immediately on the front line. Such material is in the Bundeswehr’s inventory and is to be withdrawn from use by the Bundeswehr: the Fuchs armoured transport vehicle,” the application reads.

Olaf Scholz, the German chancellor, has come under consistent criticism at home and abroad for failing to adequately arm Ukrainian forces, despite continued pledges of military and non-military support.

The first delivery of heavy weapons from Ukraine to Germany arrived on June 21, four months after Russia’s invasion began.

In addition to seven German-made howitzers (Panzerhaubitze 2000), the delivery included 14,900 anti-tank mines, 500 Stinger air-defence missiles, 2,700 anti-aircraft missiles as well as hand grenades and artillery for handguns.

Volodymyr Zelensky, the Ukrainian president, said in his nightly address on Wednesday evening that Western-supplied weapons were “finally” making a significant impact in his country’s war against Russia.

“Finally it is felt that the Western artillery – the weapons we received from our partners – started working very powerfully,” he said

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/07/07/germany-refuses-plunder-military-sake-ukraine/

Cc: lalasticlala

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Re: Germany: We Can't Plunder Our Military For The Sake Of Ukraine by Tonypen247(m): 7:17am On Jul 08, 2022
Na when kasala burst, na im you go know say you dae alone. cry undecided

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Re: Germany: We Can't Plunder Our Military For The Sake Of Ukraine by Seniorwriter(m): 7:18am On Jul 08, 2022
Political policy streamlined base on choices by the leaders.

@Seniorwriter
Re: Germany: We Can't Plunder Our Military For The Sake Of Ukraine by nrexzy: 7:18am On Jul 08, 2022
Putin na grand master.... All he needed to do was cut Boris head they rest would call in place

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Re: Germany: We Can't Plunder Our Military For The Sake Of Ukraine by CrownOfClay724: 7:28am On Jul 08, 2022
Quite logical.

I can't gift you my cloak and bask around unclad.

Anything can happen...and that would leave Deutschland undefended and vulnerable.

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Re: Germany: We Can't Plunder Our Military For The Sake Of Ukraine by Hanibbal(m): 7:42am On Jul 08, 2022
An economic power house like Germany is wary of plundering its own military arsenal while small Baltic states and other insignificant NATO countries are busy arming Ukraine. grin

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Re: Germany: We Can't Plunder Our Military For The Sake Of Ukraine by talk2hb1(m): 8:06am On Jul 08, 2022
Wahala for Sanctions Dolers

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Re: Germany: We Can't Plunder Our Military For The Sake Of Ukraine by slickbak(m): 8:17am On Jul 08, 2022
Naïve Ukrainian.
Wisdom far from Zelensky.

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Re: Germany: We Can't Plunder Our Military For The Sake Of Ukraine by Hanibbal(m): 8:24am On Jul 08, 2022
slickbak:
Naïve Ukrainian.
Wisdom far from Zelensky.

His eyes will soon clear.

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Re: Germany: We Can't Plunder Our Military For The Sake Of Ukraine by citygarden(m): 10:20am On Jul 08, 2022
Is now they know that they can't plunder their military for Ukraine. After pushing them into this war

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Re: Germany: We Can't Plunder Our Military For The Sake Of Ukraine by seunny4lif(m): 11:20am On Jul 08, 2022
No wonder Ukraine's energy ministry urges Canada not to return the gas turbine needed to restore the flow of natural gas from Russia to Germany via Nord Stream 1.

Ukraine want to throw German economy into recession cheesy.
Germans are already turning on Ukraine but this statement by Ukraine is add more fire to it
Well this is a political pickle.

Russia needs a gas turbine in order to provide gas to Germany, Canada has the turbine and can give it to Russia, but Ukraine is begging Canada to not give it to Russia.

Someone is getting screwed, and it ain't Russia.
3 months is not far for so countries while place like Italy and Spain can wait till November.
Winter is coming

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Re: Germany: We Can't Plunder Our Military For The Sake Of Ukraine by Hanibbal(m): 5:16pm On Jul 08, 2022
citygarden:
Is now they know that they can't plunder their military for Ukraine. After pushing them into this war

Don't mind them. Last week they still pledged unending support for Ukraine now they can't plunder their military grin. Zelensky's eyes will clear laslas.

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Re: Germany: We Can't Plunder Our Military For The Sake Of Ukraine by Appleyard(m): 6:09pm On Jul 08, 2022
Why should they continue to send weapons to Ukraine when Russia keeps destroying them? undecided

In a recent interview with Fox News, a Ukrainian pilot described the direct aerial confrontation with the Russian fighter jets as a ‘suicide mission,’ adding, “I wouldn’t even find him [Russian aircraft] on the radar screen by the time he’s already launched a missile.” grin grin grin

All the weapons they have been sending to Ukraine are not effective against Russia as confessed by that pilot. But some kids here think Russian aviation is not up to quality with foreign ones let alone surpass them. This pilot just said they can't even track and find Russian planes on their radar, and we are not talking about the SU-57. cool

Fear Russia. cool

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Re: Germany: We Can't Plunder Our Military For The Sake Of Ukraine by Hanibbal(m): 6:22pm On Jul 08, 2022
Appleyard:
Why should they continue to send weapons to Ukraine when Russia keeps destroying them? undecided

In a recent interview with Fox News, a Ukrainian pilot described the direct aerial confrontation with the Russian fighter jets as a ‘suicide mission,’ adding, “I wouldn’t even find him [Russian aircraft] on the radar screen by the time he’s already launched a missile.” grin grin grin

All the weapons they have been sending to Ukraine are not effective against Russia as confessed by that pilot. But some kids here think Russian aviation is not up to quality with foreign ones let alone surpass them. This pilot just said they can't even track and find Russian planes on their radar, and we are not talking about the SU-57. cool

Fear Russia. cool

I haven't heard of Russia's SU-57 in this war. May be Russia fitted radar jammers on their non-stealth planes.

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Re: Germany: We Can't Plunder Our Military For The Sake Of Ukraine by okeysoninv: 6:30pm On Jul 08, 2022
Appleyard:
Why should they continue to send weapons to Ukraine when Russia keeps destroying them? undecided

In a recent interview with Fox News, a Ukrainian pilot described the direct aerial confrontation with the Russian fighter jets as a ‘suicide mission,’ adding, “I wouldn’t even find him [Russian aircraft] on the radar screen by the time he’s already launched a missile.” grin grin grin

All the weapons they have been sending to Ukraine are not effective against Russia as confessed by that pilot. But some kids here think Russian aviation is not up to quality with foreign ones let alone surpass them. This pilot just said they can't even track and find Russian planes on their radar, and we are not talking about the SU-57. cool

Fear Russia. cool
see Putin bot here. more than 400 Russia aircrafts that have been demilitarized is not you. su-34,su-30 name . fyn Ukraine sky is a no go area for Russia orcs. cont. spilling propaganda by Putin.
Re: Germany: We Can't Plunder Our Military For The Sake Of Ukraine by okeysoninv: 6:41pm On Jul 08, 2022
Russia bots when will you tell the truth .

Re: Germany: We Can't Plunder Our Military For The Sake Of Ukraine by Hanibbal(m): 6:44pm On Jul 08, 2022
okeysoninv:
see Putin bot here. more than 400 Russia aircrafts that have been demilitarized is not you. su-34,su-30 name . fyn Ukraine sky is a no go area for Russia orcs. cont. spilling propaganda by Putin.

Lols. Zelensky needs you in his boys scout regiment. grin

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Re: Germany: We Can't Plunder Our Military For The Sake Of Ukraine by okeysoninv: 6:48pm On Jul 08, 2022
Hanibbal:


Lols. Zelensky needs you in his boys scout regiment. grin
we are exposing you pootin bots in nairaland
Re: Germany: We Can't Plunder Our Military For The Sake Of Ukraine by bonechamberlain(m): 7:43pm On Jul 08, 2022
Appleyard:
Why should they continue to send weapons to Ukraine when Russia keeps destroying them? undecided

In a recent interview with Fox News, a Ukrainian pilot described the direct aerial confrontation with the Russian fighter jets as a ‘suicide mission,’ adding, “I wouldn’t even find him [Russian aircraft] on the radar screen by the time he’s already launched a missile.” grin grin grin

All the weapons they have been sending to Ukraine are not effective against Russia as confessed by that pilot. But some kids here think Russian aviation is not up to quality with foreign ones let alone surpass them. This pilot just said they can't even track and find Russian planes on their radar, and we are not talking about the SU-57. cool

Fear Russia. cool
grin grin. US has destroyed peoples abilities to face reality with CNN and Hollywood propaganda

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Re: Germany: We Can't Plunder Our Military For The Sake Of Ukraine by rottennaija(m): 8:17pm On Jul 08, 2022
Appleyard:
Why should they continue to send weapons to Ukraine when Russia keeps destroying them? undecided

In a recent interview with Fox News, a Ukrainian pilot described the direct aerial confrontation with the Russian fighter jets as a ‘suicide mission,’ adding, “I wouldn’t even find him [Russian aircraft] on the radar screen by the time he’s already launched a missile.” grin grin grin

All the weapons they have been sending to Ukraine are not effective against Russia as confessed by that pilot. But some kids here think Russian aviation is not up to quality with foreign ones let alone surpass them. This pilot just said they can't even track and find Russian planes on their radar, and we are not talking about the SU-57. cool

Fear Russia. cool
You know almost all of us have been brainwashed into believing America military might and the American life based on what we watch on movies. So it's understandable when they resist to believe anything else. We have been there before reality hit us.

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Re: Germany: We Can't Plunder Our Military For The Sake Of Ukraine by panafrican(m): 9:58pm On Jul 08, 2022
Yes.
They will not sell or give their key national defense weapons to help another country. It is a matter of common sense.

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Re: Germany: We Can't Plunder Our Military For The Sake Of Ukraine by Appleyard(m): 2:18pm On Jul 09, 2022
okeysoninv:
see Putin bot here. more than 400 Russia aircrafts that have been demilitarized is not you. su-34,su-30 name . fyn Ukraine sky is a no go area for Russia orcs. cont. spilling propaganda by Putin.

More than 400 aircrafts? Are you even listening to yourself? grin

Heck. The UkroNazis can't even win a direct air-to-air confrontation with Russian air forces and here you are typing propanganda because you were there taking records. grin

Russian airforce that keeps bombing the Ukro from the Nazis is a no go area for Russia planes? grin You should have said UkroNazis can't even fly within their own air space without getting shot down. shocked

Lmao. cheesy

You guys will really cry more blood, especially now that small Russian groups are taking out Ukrainian SAM batteries with machine guns, not missiles anymore. Who does that in modern battle if not Russia? grin

Move aside, homie. cool It's game over for the comedian-led Ukraine. wink

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Re: Germany: We Can't Plunder Our Military For The Sake Of Ukraine by Appleyard(m): 2:22pm On Jul 09, 2022
rottennaija:

You know almost all of us have been brainwashed into believing America military might and the American life based on what we watch on movies. So it's understandable when they resist to believe anything else. We have been there before reality hit us.

You're right. Just that, some of our brothers don't want to free themselves from the Lamestream media and Hollywood brainwashing machine even with all the contrary evidence pointing them to that direction. It's wield really.

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Re: Germany: We Can't Plunder Our Military For The Sake Of Ukraine by Appleyard(m): 2:30pm On Jul 09, 2022
bonechamberlain:
grin grin. US has destroyed peoples abilities to face reality with CNN and Hollywood propaganda

Malcolm X was right afterall when he said that the greatest weapon in the hands of the enemy (government) is propanganda. cool

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Re: Germany: We Can't Plunder Our Military For The Sake Of Ukraine by rottennaija(m): 3:08pm On Jul 09, 2022
Appleyard:


You're right. Just that, some of our brothers don't want to free themselves from the Lamestream media and Hollywood brainwashing machine even with all the contrary evidence pointing them to that direction. It's wield really.

It's cognitive dissonance. It's hard to break free from especially if you are so invested in the idea for example people who are getting paid by western sources, people who are planning to jappa to their world, people who are already there etc

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Re: Germany: We Can't Plunder Our Military For The Sake Of Ukraine by Appleyard(m): 9:07am On Jul 11, 2022
rottennaija:


It's cognitive dissonance. It's hard to break free from especially if you are so invested in the idea for example people who are getting paid by western sources, people who are planning to jappa to their world, people who are already there etc

True.
Re: Germany: We Can't Plunder Our Military For The Sake Of Ukraine by Caseless: 9:22am On Jul 11, 2022
Hanibbal:
An economic power house like Germany is wary of plundering its own military arsenal while small Baltic states and other insignificant NATO countries are busy arming Ukraine. grin
Because the Baltic states believe USA will come and defend them.
Re: Germany: We Can't Plunder Our Military For The Sake Of Ukraine by Kingsnairaland(m): 1:30pm On Jul 11, 2022
Appleyard:
Why should they continue to send weapons to Ukraine when Russia keeps destroying them? undecided

In a recent interview with Fox News, a Ukrainian pilot described the direct aerial confrontation with the Russian fighter jets as a ‘suicide mission,’ adding, “I wouldn’t even find him [Russian aircraft] on the radar screen by the time he’s already launched a missile.” grin grin grin

All the weapons they have been sending to Ukraine are not effective against Russia as confessed by that pilot. But some kids here think Russian aviation is not up to quality with foreign ones let alone surpass them. This pilot just said they can't even track and find Russian planes on their radar, and we are not talking about the SU-57. cool

Fear Russia. cool
. You can't blame them

Hollywood made it look like USA was top notch.

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Re: Germany: We Can't Plunder Our Military For The Sake Of Ukraine by Kingsnairaland(m): 1:33pm On Jul 11, 2022
okeysoninv:
see Putin bot here. more than 400 Russia aircrafts that have been demilitarized is not you. su-34,su-30 name . fyn Ukraine sky is a no go area for Russia orcs. cont. spilling propaganda by Putin.

Should I show you Russia jet flying on Ukraine's city day in day out.
Re: Germany: We Can't Plunder Our Military For The Sake Of Ukraine by okeysoninv: 1:41pm On Jul 11, 2022
Kingsnairaland:


Should I show you Russia jet flying on Ukraine's city day in day out.
Russian warplanes not entering Ukrainian-controlled airspace for over 2.5 months – Defense Ministry
cc: ukrinform
Re: Germany: We Can't Plunder Our Military For The Sake Of Ukraine by kiddkash(m): 5:06pm On Jul 11, 2022
Hanibbal:


His eyes will soon clear.
after him collect wotowoto

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Re: Germany: We Can't Plunder Our Military For The Sake Of Ukraine by kiddkash(m): 5:17pm On Jul 11, 2022
seunny4lif:
No wonder Ukraine's energy ministry urges Canada not to return the gas turbine needed to restore the flow of natural gas from Russia to Germany via Nord Stream 1.

Ukraine want to throw German economy into recession cheesy.
Germans are already turning on Ukraine but this statement by Ukraine is add more fire to it
Well this is a political pickle.

Russia needs a gas turbine in order to provide gas to Germany, Canada has the turbine and can give it to Russia, but Ukraine is begging Canada to not give it to Russia.

Someone is getting screwed, and it ain't Russia.
3 months is not far for so countries while place like Italy and Spain can wait till November.
Winter is coming
the turbine is owned and built by Russia, but it was taken to Canada to be serviced by Siemens.
Canada said, they won't hand it over to Russia, it will go against their sanction, they will hand it to Germany so that Germany will then give it to Russia. then Canada hands will be clean

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