How did evil enter the world? Ans; the same way good entered the world.
It was not Adam that planted the tree.
But by eating the fruit, Adam chose to obtain the knowledge of good and evil, but he also chose death for all mankind.
Instead of blaming Adam for bringing death, let us thank him for the Knowledge of Good and evil that makes us like God and let's thank Jesus Christ for overcoming death for all mankind.
Because of Adam and Jesus Christ, we have the knowledge of Good and Evil and we would all resurrect to die no more.

We all know that we need the knowledge of good but do we also need the knowledge of evil?
A better question would be, does God our Father have the knowledge of both Good and Evil?
If God has this knowledge, then we his children also need this same knowledge. We are like God because of our knowledge of Good and evil.

Freedom of choice

God's time is the best.

Adam and Eve didn't wait for God's time. They woild still have eaten the fruit, but from God's command...

The question still remains unanswered!

Jokerman:
God's time is the best.

Adam and Eve didn't wait for God's time. They woild still have eaten the fruit, but from God's command...

That's not the point here. Again how many of us are not guilty of the same?

AntiChristian:
The question still remains unanswered!

The goal is not to answer all questions. But you are free to offer your answers.

tctrills:

Instead of blaming Adam for bringing death, let us thank him for the Knowledge of Good and evil that makes us like God and let's thank Jesus Christ for overcoming death for all mankind.

Because of the good and evil knowledge, we seek clothes to cover unclothedness. Take away clothe expense from your life and check your accounting books.
Take away torns and thistle from farming and check you harvest.

RepoMan007:

Because of the good and evil knowledge, we seek clothes to cover unclothedness. Take away clothe expense from your life and check your accounting books.
Take away torns and thistle from farming and check you harvest.

That's one way of looking at it but you are only looking at the challenges.
2 Corinthians 4:17 17 For our light affliction, which is but for a moment, worketh for us a far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory;
The afflictions we face because Adam's actions exposed us to the knowledge of good and evil is but a small price to the glory that awaits.

Choose one, remaining in the garden forever or eternal salvation in the Kingdom of God. Where you would sit on his throne and become a priest and king.

RepoMan007:

Because of the good and evil knowledge, we seek clothes to cover unclothedness. Take away clothe expense from your life and check your accounting books.
Take away torns and thistle from farming and check you harvest.

Also remember, Jesus taught; John. 12. [24] Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.

If death has not come into the world man would abide alone, he would have no fruit.

tctrills:

That's not the point here. Again how many of us are not guilty of the same?

God would have given them the fruit to eat when it was time... or commanded them to eat it....

Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that comes out of God

tctrills:
We all know that we need the knowledge of good but do we also need the knowledge of evil?....

We already had the knowledge of good as proven by the part where male Adam sees female Adam and happily shouted "this is my flesh". We see him knowing that female Adam was a good thing.

And the second evidence is when we see them see the fruit "that it was good to eat".

So, you see, they already had knowledge of good.

AntiChristian:
The question still remains unanswered!

A car that has only accelerator and no brakes is a not a good thing and I can definitely use the brakes in a very dead causing way.

That is how the fruit operates.

Evil is good in God's Hands, BUT UNATHOURIZED USE OF EVIL IS, DEATH CAUSING!

Dtruthspeaker:


We already had the knowledge of good as proven by the part where male Adam sees female Adam and happily shouted "this is my flesh". We see him knowing that female Adam was a good thing.

And the second evidence is when we see them see the fruit "that it was good to eat".

So, you see, they already had knowledge of good.

Before you know something was good you must have seen it in a bad state or have knowledge of when it was in a bad taste.
What qualities did he see in a fruit to qualify it as good, he can also use the lack of those qualities to qualify it as bad.

How the story wan take sweet?
Take away the tree from the garden and the story ends. It's as simple as that.

tctrills:
...Choose one, remaining in the garden forever or eternal salvation in the Kingdom of God. Where you would sit on his throne and become a priest and king.

Eternal salvation is the return to the garden

Dtruthspeaker:


Eternal salvation is the return to the garden

Your garden is in iraq.

Guess where hell is?

tctrills:

If death has not come into the world man would abide alone, he would have no fruit.

Wrong!

Man was already blessed to have fruits, under The Law/Commandment, "Be Fruitful and multiply and subdue and have dominion" (Genesis 1:28) which got lost because man murdered himself.

But thanks to Noah, (Genesis 9) God Reinstated it, BUT NOW HE DID NOT RE-INSTATE OR RECOMMAND, "SUBDUE AND HAVE DOMINION" Which He amended to "the fear of you and the dread of you...."

And neither was man alone, he had God!

Maynman:

Before you know something was good you must have seen it in a bad state or have knowledge of when it was in a bad taste...

Your stupidity has no end.
When you saw fried chicken, pizza, ice-cream, ball, toy car, you did not see them in their bad states beforehand

Dtruthspeaker:


Your stupidity has no end.
When you saw fried chicken, pizza, ice-cream, ball, toy car, you did not see them in their bad states beforehand

Says the dumbest theist on nairaland.

and how did I know it was their “good state”?. Which qualities did i use to qualify pizza as a “good pizza”?
If the pizza uses a month and rot, can i still call it a “good pizza”?

Jokerman:


God would have given them the fruit to eat when it was time... or commanded them to eat it....

Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that comes out of God

That's your opinion not biblical. And even if God gave them the fruit, they would still die and it would be said that God led man to death.

tctrills:

That's your opinion not biblical. And even if God gave them the fruit, they would still die and it would be said that God led man to death.

They wouldnt have died. Disobeying God led to the pronunciation of death to living things....

tctrills:
1. How did evil enter the world? Ans; the same way good entered the world.
2. It was not Adam that planted the tree. But by eating the fruit, Adam chose to obtain the knowledge of good and evil, but he also chose death for all mankind.
3. Instead of blaming Adam for bringing death, let us thank him for the Knowledge of Good and evil that makes us like God and let's thank Jesus Christ for overcoming death for all mankind.
4. Because of Adam and Jesus Christ, we have the knowledge of Good and Evil and we would all resurrect to die no more.

1. Your first statement is wrong! Good "entered" the world when God Himself, after creating everything, including man, declared it all good from the beginning. The event with the tree came much later than that.

2. Adam stole the fruit in disobedience. It was his disobedience, which came before he ate from the tree, that cause evil to "enter" into the world. His disobedience of God, an intention of the heart, is what opened the gate to evil, not the eating of the fruit he stole.

3. Knowledge of good and evil, is simply that, knowledge. Action is what results in evil. Adam committed that which is evil against God even before he supposedly gained the knowledge from eating from the tree in the garden which he stole from. So, Adam already purposed evil in his heart before eating from the tree.

Jesus Christ is the Way, the Truth(knowledge of good and evil), and the Life(tree of Life) which was lost to mankind as a result of Adam's choice. God sending Jesus Christ back to mankind after Adam lost us the opportunity at Jesus Christ from the beginning, is all God to thank.

4. Because of Adam, mankind gained suffering and death instead of Life, not knowledge per se since we didn't have the Way to use even the knowledge of obtaining freedom from the suffering and death that resulted. So, you have nothing to thank Adam for since he is the reason why mankind lost out on the opportunity of having Jesus Christ from the beginning.

tctrills:
1. We all know that we need the knowledge of good but do we also need the knowledge of evil?
A better question would be, does God our Father have the knowledge of both Good and Evil?

2. If God has this knowledge, then we his children also need this same knowledge. We are like God because of our knowledge of Good and evil.

Of course God has the knowledge of good and evil, it is HIs Law, isn't it?

According to God, only those who live in continuous submission to and obedience to the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ, God's Truth, Know His Truth(knowledge of good and evil) and are set free by His Truth.Only they are Sons of God. All others are sons of men.

Jokerman:
God's time is the best.
Adam and Eve didn't wait for God's time. They woild still have eaten the fruit, but from God's command...

My thoughts on the story as well. Adam was clearly punished for his direct disobedience of God's commandment meaning that the tree wasn't an abomination of some sort.

Kobojunkie:
Of course God has the knowledge of good and evil, it is HIs Law, isn't it?

According to God, only those who live in continuous submission to and obedience to the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ, God's Truth, Know His Truth(knowledge of good and evil) and are set free by His Truth.Only they are Sons of God. All others are sons of men.

We have had this argument before. I guess I know where you stand on this, so let's not flog a dead horse. I guess when we have a new topic we could discuss but for now, we would only be reciting old talking points.

Jokerman:


They wouldnt have died. Disobeying God led to the pronunciation of death to living things....

My point is, you assume that God would have given them the fruit and that isn't scriptural. God told them, the day you eat of this fruit you will die. So even if God gave it to them by himself, that pronouncement remains. That would simply mean God murdered them.

Dtruthspeaker:


Wrong!

Man was already blessed to have fruits, under The Law/Commandment, "Be Fruitful and multiply and subdue and have dominion" (Genesis 1:28) which got lost because man mursered himself.

But thanks so Noah, (Genesis 9( God Reinstated it, BUT NOW HE DID NOT RE-INSTATE OR RECOMMAND, "SUBDUE AND HAVE DOMINION" Which He amended to "the fear of you and the dread of you...."

And neither was man alone, he had God!

Please make your argument with Jesus Christ, I only quoted him.

Dtruthspeaker:


We already had the knowledge of good as proven by the part where male Adam sees female Adam and happily shouted "this is my flesh". We see him knowing that female Adam was a good thing.

And the second evidence is when we see them see the fruit "that it was good to eat".

So, you see, they already had knowledge of good.

Good is not a liar. Listen to what he said after Adam and Eve ate the fruit.
"And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil."
Now the bible did not say that Adam knew nothing or 5hat Adam was unintelligent. It only said he did not know God and Evil before eating the fruit.
Knowing Eve to be his flesh had nothing to do with good and evil.

Dtruthspeaker:


We already had the knowledge of good as proven by the part where male Adam sees female Adam and happily shouted "this is my flesh". We see him knowing that female Adam was a good thing.

And the second evidence is when we see them see the fruit "that it was good to eat".

So, you see, they already had knowledge of good.

Knowing something is good to eat had nothing to do with knowledge of Good and Evil.
Here is why.
If I give my 2 years old boy 2 plates, one containing rice and chicken and the other full of stones, my baby would choose the first.
Does my 2 years old boy know good from evil? If you have ever had kids, you would know the answer is no. So stop saying things that are not practical.

tctrills:

Knowing something is good to eat had nothing to do with knowledge of Good and Evil.

Here is why.
If I give my 2 years old boy 2 plates, one containing rice and chicken and the other full of stones, my baby would choose the first.
Does my 2 years old boy know good from evil? If you have ever had kids, you would know the answer is no. So stop saying things that are not practical.

First, I gave 2 examples and you only picked one.

Secondly, do you not see that by admitting that the child would choose the plate of rice and chicken aka "the first" over the plate of stones, you have proven what I said is True?

Try thinking about what you wanted to say before you say.

tctrills:

Good is not a liar. Listen to what he said after Adam and Eve ate the fruit.
"And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil."
Now the bible did not say that Adam knew nothing or 5hat Adam was unintelligent. It only said he did not know God and Evil before eating the fruit.
Knowing Eve to be his flesh had nothing to do with good and evil.

God indeed is not a liar but it has obviously not occurred to you that His Statement "And God saw that everything that He had made was very Good" clearly proves that Adam too was more than good, he was very good. And only knew the good.

Therefore, God's statement "man is become as one of us, to know good and evil." clearly means that MAN KNEW ONLY GOOD BEFORE HE MESSED UP.

BUT WITH HIS MESS UP, HE NOW KNEW EVIL IN ADDITION TO THE GOOD HE USED TO KNOW!

Its as simple as that!