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Re: Acn Seeks Suspension Of Night Travels By Passenger Buses by lagcity(m): 5:22am On Aug 06, 2011
me i no agree with this one wey ACN dey yarn oooo. i know they want to show that they relate to ppl's experience but this proposal will negatively affect ppl's businesses. We need to be able to run a 24hr economy without fear of armed robbers. So, ACN should rather call for more investment in road safety.

If buses travel during the day, armed robbers won't throw away their guns and go into retirement. Never! Day light robbery will be the new trend. Besides our roads are already congested and dangerous during the day so we don't need those long buses competing with us for the roads.
Re: Acn Seeks Suspension Of Night Travels By Passenger Buses by lagcity(m): 5:23am On Aug 06, 2011
kettykin:

what reasoning is this, will u because electricity kills ban electricity or look for a way to make it safer.

Night travel is ok, but for the wickedness of armed robbers in certain parts of the country who glory in human sacrifice and are so fetishly wicked.


Other armed robbers take cash and valuables and go but these ones sacrifice human heads.

The police and the public should note the state and local goverment areas where this abominatiom occures and the tribe that exist there should be watched and abhored by all

i swear this girl is re.tarded
Re: Acn Seeks Suspension Of Night Travels By Passenger Buses by udbyron1(m): 7:40am On Aug 06, 2011
nigeria system is really not organised ,screw them
Re: Acn Seeks Suspension Of Night Travels By Passenger Buses by aieromon(m): 7:42am On Aug 06, 2011
Is travelling at night the problem or lack of security and bad road infrastructure?
Don't they know travellers get robbed in daytime as well?
It's not well thought out and should be ignored.
Re: Acn Seeks Suspension Of Night Travels By Passenger Buses by lagerwhenindoubt(m): 9:09am On Aug 06, 2011
When ACN loyalists, sycophants and Tinubu apologists come to roost lipsrsealed, alcohol aplenty and beer-filled conversations become the order of the day grin

The Security of this Nation (Not just the Oduduwa Nation) is a fundamental and indeed pivotal base for Economic, Social, Political progress. Security ensures Justice and Justice ensures Democracy. ACN are just looking at scoring any point. This problem is not new and even a secondary school student will tell you that the proposal is a hair-brain effort at best. What ACN should have pointed out and backed-up with intelligent discourse (obviously impossible when you are intoxicated) is how to bring Police Reforms back to the drawing board and offer practical steps to gradually improve Security in the Nigeria. What ACN has done is to demonstrate the weakness and flimsiness in their propaganda machine. Real issues are hardly discussed with the intention of proffering solutions instead they are used to score political points instead of truly addressing the needs of the people.

@Poster suspending Night Travel, why not suspend movement after 6:00PM all over Nigeria. Security lapses must be addressed that is the direction ACN should have proposed rather than this half-wit presentation not even suited for a primary school debate angry
Re: Acn Seeks Suspension Of Night Travels By Passenger Buses by dabrake(m): 9:55am On Aug 06, 2011
Kobojunkie:

what "solution"? Why in the world are you COMMENDING this NONSENSE from people who are supposed to speak on behalf of the people?

Na only during night travel accidents and robbery dey happen on those highways? na so dem tell you? lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed

Kobojunkie:

So, instead for pushing harder for the problem to come to an end, LIMITING the freedom of the people, to travel when they want, is now considered a solution?? undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided
i cannot buh agree wyt u. Ur criticism aint lame buh excellent this tym.
Re: Acn Seeks Suspension Of Night Travels By Passenger Buses by dabrake(m): 10:01am On Aug 06, 2011
lagcity:

me i no agree with this one wey ACN dey yarn oooo. i know they want to show that they relate to ppl's experience but this proposal will negatively affect ppl's businesses. We need to be able to run a 24hr economy without fear of armed robbers. So, ACN should rather call for more investment in road safety.

If buses travel during the day, armed robbers won't throw away their guns and go into retirement. Never! Day light robbery will be the new trend. Besides our roads are already congested and dangerous during the day so we don't need those long buses competing with us for the roads.
God bless u jare. Person wey dey/been train u no go regret am. Doze pple only wantd 2 b recognised. So logically myopic reasoning
Re: Acn Seeks Suspension Of Night Travels By Passenger Buses by UpDates1(m): 10:20am On Aug 06, 2011
Re: Acn Seeks Suspension Of Night Travels By Passenger Buses by DrKnow1(m): 11:57am On Aug 06, 2011
In a truely civilised society, vehicular movements should not be restricted to certain period of time - day or night; the problem is purely that of insecurity and bad policing, That is why every state should have its own police force, There should also be a national police, FBI style. The present Nigerian Police Force should be disbanded. The Nigerian Police Force was originally created by the British Government as agents of oppression to foster their own interest. They were never meant to protect the interest of their colony. Its high time we created our own truly community oriented policing system with the sole objective of protecting the lives and properties of the public. The current police officers should be used as security officers and prison warders. The criteria of recrutement of officers should be raised to include minimum qualification of first degree and each state financing its own police force.
Re: Acn Seeks Suspension Of Night Travels By Passenger Buses by igboboy1(m): 12:24pm On Aug 06, 2011
Why is ACN always acting like they are the government? Una no win national presidential election so biko Sharap, When una fit win then una go fit dey seek orders and laws and all those BS, in the mean time sharap let the govt of bros J do their thang,
Re: Acn Seeks Suspension Of Night Travels By Passenger Buses by ektbear: 12:42pm On Aug 06, 2011
That is the role of a good opposition party. Aren't you in yankee right now? So you should be used to democracy
Re: Acn Seeks Suspension Of Night Travels By Passenger Buses by koruji(m): 1:13pm On Aug 06, 2011
I am amazed at the unreasonableness with which some people here are attacking ACN for speaking out on a people welfare issue. The proposed solution may not be right, but the fact is that thinking about it as a party is what we want as Nigerians. Unlike PDP that is really in charge but would not address any problem unless it is to make political gain.

As Yorubas would say "N'kan ti e fe je ko je k'egban" i.e. "Your focus on filling your stomach has taken your senses away", but you are the fool for it. Why is that? Well, do you know what your PDP government's response to Boko Haram bombings in Abuja was? That's right. They turned Abuja into a ghost town - imposing a curfew on the capital city of a 150 million strong nation, most businesses have to shut down at 6pm and they road-blocked paths into Abuja creating mile-long hold ups. At that time, none of you ACN condemning whiz-kids called GEJ and his govt. names. I guess PDP "works" for you, but this attempts to bring ACN down to the level of PDP is not going to work as thinking people can see right through it.

By the way the same ACN that you are condemning so much is the one that immediately called for a security summit that would examine the entire Nigeria security system to bring much needed reforms. However, the PDP govt. is entirely "wise" it does not need to discuss anything with anybody. We are waiting for the "transformation" that was promised to reach our security system.

lagerwhenindoubt:

When ACN loyalists, sycophants and Tinubu apologists come to roost lipsrsealed, alcohol aplenty and beer-filled conversations become the order of the day grin

The Security of this Nation (Not just the Oduduwa Nation) is a fundamental and indeed pivotal base for Economic, Social, Political progress. Security ensures Justice and Justice ensures Democracy. ACN are just looking at scoring any point. This problem is not new and even a secondary school student will tell you that the proposal is a hair-brain effort at best. What ACN should have pointed out and backed-up with intelligent discourse (obviously impossible when you are intoxicated) is how to bring Police Reforms back to the drawing board and offer practical steps to gradually improve Security in the Nigeria. What ACN has done is to demonstrate the weakness and flimsiness in their propaganda machine. Real issues are hardly discussed with the intention of proffering solutions instead they are used to score political points instead of truly addressing the needs of the people.

@Poster suspending Night Travel, why not suspend movement after 6:00PM all over Nigeria. Security lapses must be addressed that is the direction ACN should have proposed rather than this half-wit presentation not even suited for a primary school debate angry


Yeah their "thang" they have not being doing for 12 years. cheesy cheesy
igbo boy:

Why is ACN always acting like they are the government? Una no win national presidential election so biko Sharap, When una fit win then una go fit dey seek orders and laws and all those BS, in the mean time sharap let the govt of bros J do their thang,
Re: Acn Seeks Suspension Of Night Travels By Passenger Buses by lagerwhenindoubt(m): 1:15pm On Aug 06, 2011
ekt_bear:

That is the role of a good opposition party. Aren't you in yankee right now? So you should be used to democracy

Oga haba. the role of a good opposition party is not to point at faults without providing good direction. I am not surprised you have not in your usual feisty self sprung up in defense of this ACN proposition. They have just pointed out a fault but the direction they have provided is much lamer that the faults they have pointed out  
Re: Acn Seeks Suspension Of Night Travels By Passenger Buses by ektbear: 1:18pm On Aug 06, 2011
lagerwhenindoubt:

Oga haba. the role of a good opposition party is not to point at faults without providing good direction. I am not surprised you have not in your usual feisty self sprung up in defense of this ACN proposition. They have just pointed out a fault but the direction they have provided is much lamer that the faults they have pointed out  

I think it is a bad suggestion in this case. That is why I'm not defending it. But contrary to the above dude's idea, they have the right to speak up about policy. Speaking up is what a good opposition party does
Re: Acn Seeks Suspension Of Night Travels By Passenger Buses by Kobojunkie: 1:24pm On Aug 06, 2011
Point at faults? For pete's sake the situation has been in existence since at least the mid 90's. We all know of the faults, and we all know the most probably solutions.

What I don't understand is since when the role of good opposition is to make silly suggestions in a country like Nigeria. Are we that desperate that we will accept any idiotic suggestion in the name of having opposition?

The Action Congress of Nigeria (ACN) has urged relevant authorities to work with luxury bus operators to suspend night travels.

The party was reacting to the death of 14 passengers as they were being attacked by armed robbers on the Okene-Lokoja road on Tuesday.

In a statement yesterday in Ado-Ekiti by its National Publicity Secretary, Alhaji Lai Mohammed, ACN said suspending night journeys has become necessary to save Nigerians from similar armed robberies.

The party said it was aware that the Federal Road Safety Corps (FRSC) has been advising travellers against night trips, because of their safety.

It noted that it is necessary for the FRSC “to go a step further by working with the commuter bus operators to stop night travels until there is adequate security on the roads”.

This suggestion is no solution,whether temporary, or long-term, and amounts to nothing more than "talking for the sake of it".

Again, I ask, do these robberies, and accidents only occur at night? We all know the answer to this so how can this considered meaningful by anyone? What next? If 50 people die, in the day time, in the next couple of days on the same roads, ACN will suggest luxury bus companies suspend day travel as well?
Re: Acn Seeks Suspension Of Night Travels By Passenger Buses by Nobody: 1:50pm On Aug 06, 2011
Luxury bus operators should engage services of nigeria army as excorts,to and fro.logistics should be provided for army.ARMY IS AT WAR WITH ARMED ROBBERS.
Re: Acn Seeks Suspension Of Night Travels By Passenger Buses by Nymphnode(m): 1:52pm On Aug 06, 2011
Not to worry, the time is here to create Ministry of Night Time travellers, sponsored by Chisco/Ekene Dili Chukwu, insured by Nicon Insurance, protected by the Civil Defense Corp, real time video of highway traffic situation will be powered by Etisalat in association with Main 1 cable
Re: Acn Seeks Suspension Of Night Travels By Passenger Buses by Kobojunkie: 1:59pm On Aug 06, 2011
Laalamed:

Luxury bus operators should engage services of nigeria army as excorts,to and fro.logistics should be provided for army.ARMY IS AT WAR WITH ARMED ROBBERS.

um . . . that has been going on for years now, but still the problem persists.

On night buses, back during my college years in Nigeria, we used to have at least 2 armed men on each bus, but that didn't help as there were stories that some of the army guys were being paid by the other side.
Re: Acn Seeks Suspension Of Night Travels By Passenger Buses by KayDee4: 3:07pm On Aug 06, 2011
Naija leaders, , you should be thinking of ways to make Night Travel safer and not trying to abolish it totally. Put ur brains to work and justify your fat salaries.

Why not fix the roads to make them motorable and provide adequate security which IMO, is non-existent.

Do they think these guys travel @ night for the fun of it? They are compelled to do so by personal or business exigencies.
Re: Acn Seeks Suspension Of Night Travels By Passenger Buses by Kobojunkie: 3:31pm On Aug 06, 2011
Kay-Dee:
Do they think these guys travel @ night for the fun of it? They are compelled to do so by personal or business exigencies.

You dey mind them! No mind our so-called leaders  . . . . always looking for ways to curb the freedoms of Nigerians, rather than actually tackling the issues at hand!
Re: Acn Seeks Suspension Of Night Travels By Passenger Buses by Gbawe: 4:41pm On Aug 06, 2011
lagerwhenindoubt:

When ACN loyalists, sycophants and Tinubu apologists come to roost lipsrsealed, alcohol aplenty and beer-filled conversations become the order of the day grin

The Security of this Nation (Not just the Oduduwa Nation) is a fundamental and indeed pivotal base for Economic, Social, Political progress. Security ensures Justice and Justice ensures Democracy. ACN are just looking at scoring any point. This problem is not new and even a secondary school student will tell you that the proposal is a hair-brain effort at best. What ACN should have pointed out and backed-up with intelligent discourse (obviously impossible when you are intoxicated) is how to bring Police Reforms back to the drawing board and offer practical steps to gradually improve Security in the Nigeria. What ACN has done is to demonstrate the weakness and flimsiness in their propaganda machine. Real issues are hardly discussed with the intention of proffering solutions instead they are used to score political points instead of truly addressing the needs of the people.

@Poster suspending Night Travel, why not suspend movement after 6:00PM all over Nigeria. Security lapses must be addressed that is the direction ACN should have proposed rather than this half-wit presentation not even suited for a primary school debate angry

This , frankly , is over the top and a classic example of waiting for someone we dislike to say/do something we can then overreact to . If brainstorming , for the purpose of improving Nigeria, is still paramount in the minds of most folks then the suggestion from the ACN should simply be inspected for merit, feasibility and/or flaws.

Let us not forget that the ACN , while most political Parties are just that in name alone, is the same Party championing the call for true fiscal federalism, State policing , review of a discredited revenue allocation formula that gives so much money to an unwieldy and comparatively unproductive federal Structure to the detriment of States . It is also the ACN , while the PDP and others can only churn up tenure elongation, that has suggested concrete measures to make public office unattractive to potential looters and misrulers as an effective way to curb the 'monetization' of our politics. This is the Party that always proposes clear, concise , workable and well articulated plans for the advancement of Nigeria.

This Policy from the ACN is unworkable in my opinion but it is inappropriate for anyone who is even half objective to now want to define everything the ACN stands for in relation to this suggestion alone while conveniently forgetting the many progressive and laudable governance ideas theorized by the ACN. To be honest, and in terms of forward thinking Governance, the ACN is not behind any Party in Nigeria. It is certainly far ahead of many other and we can all agree that no one is right all the time.
Re: Acn Seeks Suspension Of Night Travels By Passenger Buses by swiftycool(m): 7:35pm On Aug 06, 2011
how dumb? who told them armed robbers only operate at nite? so if people also get waylayed and killed in daylight as was d case few years ago, we should then scrap bus travel alltogether abi. Mumus, instead of focusing on beafing up security they decide to surrender and respect robbers as lords of the highways at nite! if d persons suggesting dis hav no better suggestion they would do better to Shut d 4uk up! hissssss
Re: Acn Seeks Suspension Of Night Travels By Passenger Buses by Outstrip(f): 8:06pm On Aug 06, 2011
It'll be impossible to enforce. What happens when a bus going to the east leave lagos at 8am and is still on the road at 8pm. Where do you drop off the passengers? The best they can do is say no bus schedule should start after a certain time. We know though that people have been stuck on the road for days just going from Lagos to the East
Re: Acn Seeks Suspension Of Night Travels By Passenger Buses by blackboy(m): 8:17pm On Aug 06, 2011
ACN, think Nigeria is like d SW where they can just wake up and dictate to the people what they want. They should think before they talk. The incident has happened let ACN talk about security , better roads and better and safer transport sysytem instead of trying to make life more harder for Nigerians .

They too like banning, taxing, revoking and quoting law. They should be sincere with the people not opening their moth unnecessarily.
Re: Acn Seeks Suspension Of Night Travels By Passenger Buses by koruji(m): 10:27pm On Aug 06, 2011
ACN think Nigeria is like the SW? What is Nigeria like - the land of Boko Haramites & kidnappers, nation of no light always, bad roads, thiefing politicians. The stench that PDP left in place in the SW is what the ACN is trying to clean up.

ACN has talked about security, and its governors are putting in place better security, roads, transport system and other programs that PDP could not/will not dream about in 12 years of rule & wasting our time.

blackboy:

ACN, think Nigeria is like d SW where they can just wake up and dictate to the people what they want. They should think before they talk. The incident has happened let ACN talk about security , better roads and better and safer transport sysytem instead of trying to make life more harder for Nigerians .

They too like banning, taxing, revoking and quoting law. They should be sincere with the people not opening their moth unnecessarily.
Re: Acn Seeks Suspension Of Night Travels By Passenger Buses by senbonzakurakageyoshi(m): 12:12am On Aug 07, 2011
hmmmm, i dunno, in the short term, i don't think this is a bad idea. sure, it may seem like restricting people freedom of movement at any time but if it's for their own good, maybe it's for the best. travelling at night here in naija has proven to be more dangerous than daytime travel considering, especially, the dangers attendant with the cover of darkness.
yes, people should reserve the right to travel whenever they want but when it poses a danger to their lives, then government has to prevent it. sure, the best way to prevent this would be to tackle the crime menace, fix the roads and ensure the streetlights work but since we don't have any of those available (and won't for quite a while) this is not a bad short term idea. besides, the FG is yet to come up with a better short or even long term solution.r short or even long term solution.
Re: Acn Seeks Suspension Of Night Travels By Passenger Buses by Kobojunkie: 12:20am On Aug 07, 2011
senbonzakura_kageyoshi:

hmmmm, i dunno, in the short term, i don't think this is a bad idea. sure, it may seem like restricting people freedom of movement at any time but if it's for their own good, maybe it's for the best. travelling at night here in naija has proven to be more dangerous than daytime travel considering, especially, the dangers attendant with the cover of darkness.
yes, people should reserve the right to travel whenever they want but when it poses a danger to their lives, then government has to prevent it. sure, the best way to prevent this would be to tackle the crime menace, fix the roads and ensure the streetlights work but since we don't have any of those available (and won't for quite a while) this is not a bad short term idea. besides, the FG is yet to come up with a better short or even long term solution.r short or even long term solution.

Do you have some verifiable evidence of this or are you just making claims as we always do in that country? The decision here was made because 14 people died, but then I have read stories of more than that number perishing in daytime accidents on our roads. So how can you now declare night travel is more dangerous? If this is really for the good of the people, why not then ban traveling all together if you believe it will save people's lives, no be the people go travel the same accident prone roads during the day? How does that help the issue?
Re: Acn Seeks Suspension Of Night Travels By Passenger Buses by koruji(m): 4:07am On Aug 07, 2011
What kind of questions are this now? It is common knowledge, particularly for private travellers, that you don't embark on a long journey in Nigeria if you are starting later than 6pm. The commercial transporters risk it because they have being carrying armed guards and it is a valuable business devoid of day-travel congestions. However, the armed robbers are becoming even more daring in their acts - hence ACN's sense of urgency.

The original article also mentioned that even the FRSC has being advising transporters to stop night travels - so this is not just something that the ACN chieftain dreamed up. As I mentioned before we tend to take this approach to finding solutions to problems in Nigeria. The idea is probably unworkable, and even if it is, it can only be a short-term proposition.

Kobojunkie:

Do you have some verifiable evidence of this or are you just making claims as we always do in that country? The decision here was made because 14 people died, but then I have read stories of more than that number perishing in daytime accidents on our roads. So how can you now declare night travel is more dangerous? If this is really for the good of the people, why not then ban traveling all together if you believe it will save people's lives, no be the people go travel the same accident prone roads during the day? How does that help the issue?
Re: Acn Seeks Suspension Of Night Travels By Passenger Buses by Kobojunkie: 4:15am On Aug 07, 2011
koruji:

What kind of questions are this now? It is common knowledge, particularly for private travellers, that you don't embark on a long journey in Nigeria if you are starting later than 6pm. The commercial transporters risk it because they have being carrying armed guards and it is a valuable business devoid of day-travel congestions. However, the armed robbers are becoming even more daring in their acts - hence ACN's sense of urgency.

The original article[b] also mentioned that even the FRSC has being advising transporters to stop night travels[/b] - so this is not just something that the ACN chieftain dreamed up. As I mentioned before we tend to take this approach to finding solutions to problems in Nigeria. The idea is probably unworkable, and even if it is, it can only be a short-term proposition.


I take it you do not have answers but are simply trying to offer more irrational arguments for what ACN suggested here, huh??  And I am also guessing you are of the assumption that attacks probably happen more at night than in broad day light on Nigerian roads .  undecided undecided undecided undecided undecidedgrin grin grin grin 

I don't know how well you know Nigeria but attacks and accidents happen during both night and day on our roads. My own experience was in broad day light and there was no other car stopping to help even at that. There's really not been any data presented in over the last 20 years to show that the situation is worse at night than in the day --- no, not by even the FRSC. And if the FRSC is serious, it would at least start by addressing the main reasons why the attacks remain possible on our roads.

For pete's sake  . . . do you drive at night? Yes or no!!!By your understanding, do you think that your chances of getting into an accident increases at night, than during the day?  Please at least answer one question.

hint: Even Nigerian roads are deserted at night and so the roads are more open for drivers to ply at night than in the day.
Re: Acn Seeks Suspension Of Night Travels By Passenger Buses by igboboy1(m): 6:39am On Aug 07, 2011
ekt_bear:

That is the role of a good opposition party. Aren't you in yankee right now? So you should be used to democracy

Delving into peoples business is not the role of any opposition party, If they were talking about how to jump start economy, provide jobs and such i would say yes they are in the right, But when it comes to whether i want to travel at night or day by bus it does not concern ACN at all, Yes we know the dangers of traveling in Nigeria at night but that is people's personal business if they want to risk their lives,

you bring up yankee, how many times have you heard opposition bring up such a silly idea- oh dont travel by bike after 4pm and such? Your analogies are always warped.
Re: Acn Seeks Suspension Of Night Travels By Passenger Buses by ektbear: 8:05am On Aug 07, 2011
Either the analogy is warped, or you are too slow to pick it up.

In any case, Repubs (when they are in opposition) and Democrats (when in opposition) say dumb things all the time. They also say good things all the time.

That ACN has said one dumb thing now doesn't mean they don't have a right to speak.
Re: Acn Seeks Suspension Of Night Travels By Passenger Buses by igboboy1(m): 8:33am On Aug 07, 2011
Analogy is definitely warped is the answer, And the dumb things Rep or Dem say cant be compared to the consistent dumb things coming from the ACN camp, To speak no be by force, they are better off shutting the hell up,

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