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Re: Tinubu, Wike’s London Meeting Rattles PDP, Atiku by 27Pushing30: 8:25am On Aug 24, 2022
DICO111:

I agree I'm ignorant, but before you shine your brown teeth to laugh please prove me wrong with tangible facts and stats.

You cannot prove to an ignorant person that he/she is ignorant…

For example you ignorantly assumed I have brown teeth…

Ignorance is bliss… enjoy
Re: Tinubu, Wike’s London Meeting Rattles PDP, Atiku by muykem: 8:26am On Aug 24, 2022
MMWandali:
PDP should better put it's house in order if they really want to get something out of the elepction next year
Nigerian will come to know Tinubu political sagacity more. PDP will never settle till after election. Tinubu is already planning for possible Northern betrayal.
Re: Tinubu, Wike’s London Meeting Rattles PDP, Atiku by CheapHomes1: 8:27am On Aug 24, 2022
Omonieme:
It's inconceivable that Wike will decamp to APC. That said, Atiku and the PDP hasn't dealt Wike a fair hand. Dude has made way too much sacrifices for the party. Post 2015, he literally kept PDP afloat financially. Would there be PDP without Wike? Yes but would it have been an attractive platform for Atiku to seek power in 2019 and 23, I don't think so. Even after 2019, Atiku left PDP and japad to Dubai. Wike provided much needed leadership and steel. Fairplay to Atiku, he won the Primaries fairly. No doubt about that. Wike's sense of entitlement that he should have been handed the ticket on a platter is not possible. But, what Atiku could and should have done is manage the post primary better. I'm not saying he should have picked Wike as vice. Nah! You can only pick who you can be comfortable working with. But, he should have given Wike a sense of belonging. Make him feel like he matters in the scheme of things. Even if his choice of VP is settled, make it seem as if Wike had a role to play in the VP selection and all of that. But nah! Now, PDP and Atiku's traditional base that's already being threatened by Obi's emergence may further be decimated by Wike. Not good at all.
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How did you come up with all these?

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Re: Tinubu, Wike’s London Meeting Rattles PDP, Atiku by tolue42(m): 8:27am On Aug 24, 2022
Geminiivory:


lol.. Wake up!! wake up!! stop dreaming....

Lol.. no problem oo ... Politics is like a job , if you're not aligned , then you'll become irrelevant or out of job. That also affect their followers.

Most of you who want to vote for the first time(online followers), will not understand this thing.
Re: Tinubu, Wike’s London Meeting Rattles PDP, Atiku by Geminiivory: 8:29am On Aug 24, 2022
Michelle70:
Now read my comment calmly this time.

Wike is the governor of Rivers state, irrespective of which party wins, his influence really matters.

If Wike decamp, thousands will decamp with him in Rivers state, it may not be strong enough to decide the winner but it could influence votes.


I read and compreheded all you said and i know what i m saying. You still dont want to comprehend or accept what i m telling you.. You kjow what? Just read up some few comments after my last conversation with you and hear from someone else on ground here in Rivers state
Re: Tinubu, Wike’s London Meeting Rattles PDP, Atiku by Geminiivory: 8:32am On Aug 24, 2022
tolue42:


Lol.. no problem oo ... Politics is like a job , if you're not aligned , then you'll become irrelevant or out of job. That also affect their followers.

Most of you who want to vote for the first time(online followers), will not understand this thing.

Wike and Pdp know that his political career ll be as good as dead of he defects to apc.. Rivers state isnt Lagos state incase you don't know
Re: Tinubu, Wike’s London Meeting Rattles PDP, Atiku by Nobody: 8:34am On Aug 24, 2022
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Re: Tinubu, Wike’s London Meeting Rattles PDP, Atiku by Finneseguy1(m): 8:34am On Aug 24, 2022
arantess:

So you do not think this is Anti party stuff??
Because it's wike??
no comrade, is not anti party, Wike has right to visit anybody he chooses, I love what he is doing to atiku, since atiku refuses to agree with his terms
Re: Tinubu, Wike’s London Meeting Rattles PDP, Atiku by eddynaira125: 8:39am On Aug 24, 2022
Omonieme:
It's inconceivable that Wike will decamp to APC. That said, Atiku and the PDP hasn't dealt Wike a fair hand. Dude has made way too much sacrifices for the party. Post 2015, he literally kept PDP afloat financially. Would there be PDP without Wike? Yes but would it have been an attractive platform for Atiku to seek power in 2019 and 23, I don't think so. Even after 2019, Atiku left PDP and japad to Dubai. Wike provided much needed leadership and steel. Fairplay to Atiku, he won the Primaries fairly. No doubt about that. Wike's sense of entitlement that he should have been handed the ticket on a platter is not possible. But, what Atiku could and should have done is manage the post primary better. I'm not saying he should have picked Wike as vice. Nah! You can only pick who you can be comfortable working with. But, he should have given Wike a sense of belonging. Make him feel like he matters in the scheme of things. Even if his choice of VP is settled, make it seem as if Wike had a role to play in the VP selection and all of that. But nah! Now, PDP and Atiku's traditional base that's already being threatened by Obi's emergence may further be decimated by Wike. Not good at all.
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Bros your brain they work well


Guy you need to join party deep thinkers


I love your comments

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Re: Tinubu, Wike’s London Meeting Rattles PDP, Atiku by DICO111(m): 8:43am On Aug 24, 2022
27Pushing30:


You cannot prove to an ignorant person that he/she is ignorant…

For example you ignorantly assumed I have brown teeth…

Ignorance is bliss… enjoy
I only need 2 things from you, using pictorial evidence and stats
1. Prove to me that Lagos is what it is today based only on Tinubu's strives and efforts.
2. That you do not have brown teeth.
Otherwise, do not quote me again, I don't associate with gullible entities such as you are.

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Re: Tinubu, Wike’s London Meeting Rattles PDP, Atiku by Geminiivory: 8:44am On Aug 24, 2022
Shikamaru1:
is Rivers State not in Nigeria? You guys like sounding idealistic on the internet, real life is different. Till then, if he decides to work for APC underground, you'll see the numbers, 2023 will be a rude awakening. You think people care about ideas in Nigeria, just a few informed persons will vote based on competence, majority will vote on tribal, party, lines. The rest will sell their votes to the highest bidder, either APC or PDP..seems you think we're in Europe or America.

i asked a simple question 'have you ever voted kn Rivers state or been to a polling unit during elections in Rivers state? Cos your comments tells me alot.. Just go ask those that ve before taking..okay?
Re: Tinubu, Wike’s London Meeting Rattles PDP, Atiku by Mrfixitt(m): 8:49am On Aug 24, 2022
CockAndBullStor:
Stop insulting people because they disagree with you. If you truly want Nigeria to be great again, supporting Tinubu should be your priority based on track records.

Governing Nigeria shouldn't be about mouthwashing, it should be performance based. How did they perform when they governed their local governments, constituencies and states? That's what we should judge them on.

Now, sit down and think critically, then use it to evaluate the presidential aspirants. I'm pretty sure your guess would be as good as mine.

Peace!
I did not insult any one dude, I only stated the truth.
Firstly, I do not know you or how old you're, but i have to tell you this, Tinubu was an average governor in terms of performance. You have been brainwashed that Tinubu made Lagos what it is today but those folks never told you that Lagos was federal capital of Nigeria untill 1992. The best 3 governors in Lagos history is Jakande ,Ambode and Fashola. I lived in Lagos for years before I left in 2012 because of traffic issues over there.

Secondly, peter Obi is the best governor Anambra has had since it's creation in 90s. I'm not telling you this because I want to promote him, I know what he did in Anambra as governor upon the strong sabotage and opposition he had from Uba family and co.

Lastly before I go, I have a simple question for you.....If you're a company owner would you hire Tinubu as weak and frail as he is to run your company ?
Re: Tinubu, Wike’s London Meeting Rattles PDP, Atiku by beejay85: 8:52am On Aug 24, 2022
Roozzaay:
I can see the emperor apologists flooding this thread with bullcrap already cheesy he should leave PDP and join APC please undecided it's then he would know that his relevancy in Rivers is indeed attached to PDP.

473,971 votes to the PDP against Buhari’s 150,710 in the last elections shows that he doesn't owns Rivers State as he always claimed, he's just being delusional. The last elections results ought to have looked like 583,971 to the PDP and 40,710 to the APC if he was indeed Rivers lord and savior as he always portrays himself.
Think about it..the effort of amaechi and others produced d 150k plus..
Mind u, na Wike and Amaechi get Rivers politics...if both men combine their effort for APC, it will be a landslide victory whichever way u look at
Re: Tinubu, Wike’s London Meeting Rattles PDP, Atiku by tolue42(m): 8:58am On Aug 24, 2022
Geminiivory:


Wike and Pdp know that his political career ll be as good as dead of he defects to apc.. Rivers state isnt Lagos state incase you don't know

The best is for him to negotiate himself to work with APC , because peradventure Atiku win, he'll frustrate the hell out of him
Re: Tinubu, Wike’s London Meeting Rattles PDP, Atiku by chigoziri2403(m): 9:04am On Aug 24, 2022
Isokiscool:
Tanbuwa did not cause anything,He made a choice by supporting Atiku which is within his right for crying out loud.Wike is just a bad looser and her should go to hell
The same way atiku is going through hell to make peace with wike
Re: Tinubu, Wike’s London Meeting Rattles PDP, Atiku by TemmyT002(m): 9:18am On Aug 24, 2022
PDPis in trouble
Re: Tinubu, Wike’s London Meeting Rattles PDP, Atiku by Ylink4sure: 9:43am On Aug 24, 2022
I'm happy to realise highly Politically informed and intelligent folks like you are here and making your impressions felt.

Your write up was on point and highly informative.


ceaser:
Okay. Here is the plot, or so it seems.

Flashback to 2015. There has been serious uproar about how GEJ was handling his presidency vis-a-vis insecurity and the corruption amongst his ministers especially that of the oil minister and Stella oduah. The problem that seemed to stand out from others was the supposed overbearing attitude of his wife (Patience Jonathan) that made many to make her the butt of jokes and even GEJ was blamed for handing over governance to her.

She was truly overbearing because this was reflected at a PDP stakeholders meeting when Amaechi Chibuike (the present minister for works) was talking at the podium. Patience Jonathan went straight to the podium and snatched the microphone from Amaechi and began to berate him. Amaechi, pain and embarrassed, could not do much because she is the president's wife so he went to sit down but later moved out of the meeting. This was all televised on national TV. Although other untoward attitudes of Patience had unsettled some PDP stalwarts before this incidence, but that one with Amaechi marked the start of disintegration of the PDP under GEJ. The PDP governors of the North had been considering backing out of the party. Now a willing tool in the person of Amaechi had been discovered.

Tinubu (of ACN as at then) was watching all these as it transpired. Then he noted the friction between Amaechi and patience and also the already weakening alliance of PDP governors of the North. He decided that was a moment to strike!

That week that Patience Jonathan shamed Amaechi at the podium, the latter was invited by Tinubu and then the various defections and counter PDP moves began. Then what followed was the alliance talks to form the APC from ACN of the North (which received majority of the disgruntled PDP northern governors) and ACN of the south which already had strong presence within the atates of the South west. Amaechi who was hitherto a strong PDP link and PDP stalwart in the south south and south east regions had been shamed by Patience and was now a potential weak link to the party in that region. Tinubu approached him and formed an alliance with him, so began the war to bring down the ruling party.

Fast forward to 2022 and a similar trend is playing out. Wike incontrovertibly is a strong man to be reckoned with in PDP, for it was him who provided the emotional and financial war chest all those times that PDP flimsily hung on to relevance. He kept the spirit of the party alive all through these past years when even GEJ who is an ex-president on the party could not muster his own strenght and relevance to pull the party together and hold the people united. Wike braved it all and held the party to be relevant in tbe South South and South East. He had alliances with Makinde of Oyo and kept in touch with the vocal Ayodele Fayose of Ekiti in the south west, who also vowed to be a die hard PDP man.

All these while Atiku, who is notorious for whimsically adulterating political parties like a petulant child changes toys, was lounging in Dubai. And when the time came for Wike (who now believes that he had the right to the presidency on the platform of the party he has held together), and truly who wouldn't aspire for such too, Atiku jetted back into Nigeria to snatch that moment from Wike, enabled by his northern brother who Wike had also trusted until the last minute when he stepped down for Atiku, paving the way for him (Atiku) to have a majority vote against Wike.

Wike has the arsenal to decimate the PDP as far as the south south and partially the south east is concerned and this is a fact the Northern PDP should realize. Wike is pained and rightfully so on three fronts:

First, he felt cheated that someone who was not with him all the years he invested into the party came overnight and clinched the slot from him accompanied by the betrayal of Tambuwal which allowed Atiku to win the primaries. And before you justify Tambuwal's betrayal as "his choice to support whoever he wants", know that he and Wike reached an understanding of alliance up till the last minute of his defection to Atiku's side. I can't think of any way Wike annoyed him right there at the venue of the primaries to do such at the last minute. It will have been more humane (this is not to say that politicians have humane attributes though, but there is even a code of honour amongst thieves) of Tambueal to have made his mind know from day one so that Wike could have been given a chance to reconsider his options before the primaries.

Second, the unwritten zoning agreement within the party which if strictly adhered to, should favour the unanimous emergence of Wike as a Southern aspirant on the party platform has just been broken with the insistence of Atiku to contest the primaries.

Third, an undeserving Atiku after winning the primaries amidst backstabbing should as a matter of sportsmanship, akin to what Tinubu did, approached the other contestants especially Wike and forged a proper alliance with him. This alliance should possibly include the promise of the vice presidency slot to him, irrespective of the fact that Wkie publicly declared that he will never be a second hand man (vice president) in Nigeria. But Atiku made no such attempt. Even after a party committee was set up to chose between Wike and Ifeanyi Okowa, at which point Atiku had the free pass to appease Wike, he still decided to chose Okowa. This is of course apparent in Atiku's fear that Wike is a man like him - difficult, egoistic, rebellious, corrupt, sometimes recalcitrant and a potential troublemaker; all problems that Obasanjo had from Atiku as his vice president. So Atiku will not love to have the same sword he used passed over his own head, thus his choice of Ifeanyi Okowa, a more malleable person, as his running mate.

Now Tinubu has seen this crack and like a reharsh of 2015 strategy, has gone for the southern strongman of the party, with the hopes of forging an alliance and decimating the chances of the party in the south south, and maybe in the south east, come 2023 general elections.

I sincerely feel that if BAT could claim "investment in the APC" as a reason for a right of passage for him to emerge a candidate in his party, why can't Wike also claim same in PDP? This is irrespective of the fact that this strategy may be counterproductive as it did with the APC who lost the chance to field an egghead like Osinbajo as her candidate, a choice which would have prevented the problems associated with a Muslim-Muslim ticket and a move which would as well placed the APC a formidable opponent towards the rising popularity of Peter Obi who many is seeing as a viable alternative to the vibrancy, great health, oratory prowess and youthful strenght that they were denied in Osinbajo the moment he was stopped from emerging a candidate of the APC.

But at this point, an egoistic Wike will not mind sinking the PDP just so to prove his point. And an equally egoistic Atiku will not mind pushing his luck to the last just so to prove that Wike is irrelevant. Two points of return has been passed. The first point of repair was immediate post primaries when Atiku could have appeased Wike with something as ordinary as an official visit to him in Rivers state, the second point of repair being his chance to choose Wike as running mate. Sadly a point of no return has been reached and for the two giants, is a fight to the finish.




While your claim of placeholder deserves consideration, you are indeed wrong in the bolded. Yar'Adua had what is called Mennier's disease which had many complications associated with it, renal problems included. It was just a matter of time before the inevitable happened.

Tinubu on the other hand appears to be suffering from an early onset of the problems of advancing age. Some people like OBJ, are blessed with delayed onset of these inevitables. What this means is that there is no chance for rapid deterioration in health like it happened in Yar'Adua's case. So BAT may go an uneventful 8 years.

But truly, I still have my concerns, for an ailing BAT is incomparable to an energetic Òsínbàjó and Peter Òbí. However, time is the only referee in this instance.

Having said that, I hope that whoever clinches this position between the duo of Tinubu or Peter Obi should as a matter of urgency start moves, subtle, covert or otherwise to commence true federalism if he really wants to show Nigerians that he has their best interests at heart.

The productive people are bleeding and the goose that lays the golden egg is being starved. And this is serious injustice that must be addressed first to ensure that every other thing falls in line. Obasanjo brought some semblance of balance into the polity when he became the president and the peace was apparent in his reign.

True federalism will significantly reduce the power in the centre, thereby reducing the perennial struggle for the seat in Abuja between the various ethnicities and nationalities in this country. A sanwó-olú in Lagos will not be desperate to clinch the seat in Aṣọ Rock because the monies there will not even be worth the trouble. He will prefer to see the presidency more as prestige than as enrichment. He will rather stay in Lagos where the money is and the citizens will also be a winner because they can hold their governor who is closer to them in a small Lagos to account better than they can do to a Sanwó Olú in a larger, more difficult to administer Nigeria.

Also true federalism could be a first baby steps to regional system of governance that brought the much needed developments to all the regions at their own pace in those previous golden years of Nigeria. No thanks to Aguiyi-Ironsi who destroyed such lofty and great arrangement that plunged us back into the abbyss.

True federalism will ensure the North adopt the trajectory for development, away from this current mode of paratism which their leaders have kept the citizens in falsely believing is the way to live their lives. With federalism, the North will see a thriving, non-religious extremist states thriving and to avoid going hungry because the handouts from the federation account is no longer forthcoming, the citizens will be irked to push their leaders and reconsider a way to fully maximizer their own potentials of religious Ness,
agriculture, culture, solid minerals and tourism to also generate wealth for their region. There is a country in Eastern Africa whose Muslim population does not go to mecca for their hajj. They created their own hajj in their country and they're fairing well. A religiously tolerant, beautiful, digital, literal and modern Northern Nigeria could work to create a hajj for Nigerian moslems in the North and before you know it, the entire subsaharan Africa and Africa at large could soon start seeing Northern Nigeria as a viable, religiously acceptable hajj destination for those not able to afford the financial demands and stress associated to pilgrimage to Mecca.

If we experiment with true federalism for some years, we can decide if it is best we retain it or move again to trying out regional system.

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Re: Tinubu, Wike’s London Meeting Rattles PDP, Atiku by 27Pushing30: 10:00am On Aug 24, 2022
DICO111:

I only need 2 things from you, using pictorial evidence and stats
1. Prove to me that Lagos is what it is today based only on Tinubu's strives and efforts.
2. That you do not have brown teeth.
Otherwise, do not quote me again, I don't associate with gullible entities such as you are.

enjoy the bliss of ignorance
Re: Tinubu, Wike’s London Meeting Rattles PDP, Atiku by zumbigbo(m): 10:07am On Aug 24, 2022
Harley St health check grin grin
Re: Tinubu, Wike’s London Meeting Rattles PDP, Atiku by adelekeolu(m): 10:19am On Aug 24, 2022
RIP
Jestin:
They re ganging up again to give us another incapable leader. We shall fight to our bones this time ard.
Re: Tinubu, Wike’s London Meeting Rattles PDP, Atiku by Geminiivory: 10:19am On Aug 24, 2022
tolue42:


The best is for him to negotiate himself to work with APC , because peradventure Atiku win, he'll frustrate the hell out of him
Negotiating to do what? sorry i m so afraid, that ll ve little effect but whatever it is i really feel for him cos therecis just no way apc ll ve more votes than pdp in Rivers state.. LP is seriously at advantage here... However your take on what Atiku ll do to him paravenure he wins is right..Wish them all the best
Re: Tinubu, Wike’s London Meeting Rattles PDP, Atiku by Geminiivory: 10:23am On Aug 24, 2022
beejay85:

Think about it..the effort of amaechi and others produced d 150k plus..
Mind u, na Wike and Amaechi get Rivers politics...if both men combine their effort for APC, it will be a landslide victory whichever way u look at

abeg wake up from your slumber.. So you think Rivers state people do not ve a mind of their own? abeg talk another better thing. 150k with Osinbajo as VP and now you ve a Muslim Muslim ticket and you expect what again? lol.. you must be living in mars.. Go listen to Amaechis last speech immediately he came back to ph after the primaries, then tell yourself the truth..

Forget it. The only party that had a chance was PDP but with this crises , LP has all to gain...
Re: Tinubu, Wike’s London Meeting Rattles PDP, Atiku by desiredhome: 10:26am On Aug 24, 2022
Geminiivory:


Even Wike knows that that ll be political suicide for him here in Rivers state he holds dearly
I don't think wike will have any political relevance after his tenor.........the PDP he is fighting hard to destroy will not accept him if Atiku win,.....his arrogance will not let him go to APC........
Only is Wike not in good terms with almost all the southern governors.......upon all these he is still creating more enemies for himself in the state by attacking some PDP elders/supporters of Atiku in the state....
Re: Tinubu, Wike’s London Meeting Rattles PDP, Atiku by Geminiivory: 10:29am On Aug 24, 2022
desiredhome:

I don't think wike have political relevance after his tenor.........the PDP he is fighting had to destroy will not accept him if Atiku win,.....his arrogance will not let him go to APC........
Only wike not in good terms with almost all the southern governors.......upon all these he is still creating more enemies for himself in the state by attacking some PDP elders/supporters of Atiku in the state....

That's why i ll always say i feel for him. I just pray his governorship candidate in Rivers s state wins cos even some of the party members are nt happy with the outcome.. Efcc will just be waiting to chase him like crazy.. His enemies here in Rivers state re just something else.Well, i just wish him well
Re: Tinubu, Wike’s London Meeting Rattles PDP, Atiku by desiredhome: 10:34am On Aug 24, 2022
Geminiivory:


That's why i ll always say i feel for him. I just pray his governorship candidate in Rivers s state wins cos even some of the party members are nt happy with the outcome.. Efcc will just be waiting to chase him like crazy.. Well, i just wish him well
So let's watch because it will be foolish of him to be selling his own candidate for governorship in the state under PDP but want to destroy the same party at the national......
Re: Tinubu, Wike’s London Meeting Rattles PDP, Atiku by amaridigital(m): 10:36am On Aug 24, 2022
yinkus6750:
Thought the party decided to call his bluff.
What is rattling them again ?
Wike has every right to dump a party he laboured and suffered so .much for, with the treachery he was paid back with
His terms were rebuffed, am sure PDP will pay for this
But why fraternise with APC?
Should have been obidient or work neutrally from underground.

Wike who has been the strongman behind PDP for years now when Atiku was jumping from one party to another will bring himself so low to campaign for a junior politician like Obi who also is not stable jumping from one party to another? Have you seen any serious top politician in Obi's camp? Wike knows the top three masters Buhari, Atiku and Tinubu and he will never work for a junior politician like Obi. Are you a baby?

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Re: Tinubu, Wike’s London Meeting Rattles PDP, Atiku by beejay85: 11:08am On Aug 24, 2022
Geminiivory:


abeg wake up from your slumber.. So you think Rivers state people do not ve a mind of their own? abeg talk another better thing. 150k with Osinbajo as VP and now you ve a Muslim Muslim ticket and you expect what again? lol.. you must be living in mars.. Go listen to Amaechis last speech immediately he came back to ph after the primaries, then tell yourself the truth.
Forget it. The only party that had a chance was PDP but with this crises , LP has all to gain...
We shall see who has been in dreamland when reality beacons come feb 2023... grin
Re: Tinubu, Wike’s London Meeting Rattles PDP, Atiku by otipoju(m): 11:25am On Aug 24, 2022
ceaser:
Okay. Here is the plot, or so it seems.

Flashback to 2015. There has been serious uproar about how GEJ was handling his presidency vis-a-vis insecurity and the corruption amongst his ministers especially that of the oil minister and Stella oduah. The problem that seemed to stand out from others was the supposed overbearing attitude of his wife (Patience Jonathan) that made many to make her the butt of jokes and even GEJ was blamed for handing over governance to her.

She was truly overbearing because this was reflected at a PDP stakeholders meeting when Amaechi Chibuike (the present minister for works) was talking at the podium. Patience Jonathan went straight to the podium and snatched the microphone from Amaechi and began to berate him. Amaechi, pain and embarrassed, could not do much because she is the president's wife so he went to sit down but later moved out of the meeting. This was all televised on national TV. Although other untoward attitudes of Patience had unsettled some PDP stalwarts before this incidence, but that one with Amaechi marked the start of disintegration of the PDP under GEJ. The PDP governors of the North had been considering backing out of the party. Now a willing tool in the person of Amaechi had been discovered.

Tinubu (of ACN as at then) was watching all these as it transpired. Then he noted the friction between Amaechi and patience and also the already weakening alliance of PDP governors of the North. He decided that was a moment to strike!

That week that Patience Jonathan shamed Amaechi at the podium, the latter was invited by Tinubu and then the various defections and counter PDP moves began. Then what followed was the alliance talks to form the APC from ACN of the North (which received majority of the disgruntled PDP northern governors) and ACN of the south which already had strong presence within the atates of the South west. Amaechi who was hitherto a strong PDP link and PDP stalwart in the south south and south east regions had been shamed by Patience and was now a potential weak link to the party in that region. Tinubu approached him and formed an alliance with him, so began the war to bring down the ruling party.

Fast forward to 2022 and a similar trend is playing out. Wike incontrovertibly is a strong man to be reckoned with in PDP, for it was him who provided the emotional and financial war chest all those times that PDP flimsily hung on to relevance. He kept the spirit of the party alive all through these past years when even GEJ who is an ex-president on the party could not muster his own strenght and relevance to pull the party together and hold the people united. Wike braved it all and held the party to be relevant in tbe South South and South East. He had alliances with Makinde of Oyo and kept in touch with the vocal Ayodele Fayose of Ekiti in the south west, who also vowed to be a die hard PDP man.

All these while Atiku, who is notorious for whimsically adulterating political parties like a petulant child changes toys, was lounging in Dubai. And when the time came for Wike (who now believes that he had the right to the presidency on the platform of the party he has held together), and truly who wouldn't aspire for such too, Atiku jetted back into Nigeria to snatch that moment from Wike, enabled by his northern brother who Wike had also trusted until the last minute when he stepped down for Atiku, paving the way for him (Atiku) to have a majority vote against Wike.

Wike has the arsenal to decimate the PDP as far as the south south and partially the south east is concerned and this is a fact the Northern PDP should realize. Wike is pained and rightfully so on three fronts:

First, he felt cheated that someone who was not with him all the years he invested into the party came overnight and clinched the slot from him accompanied by the betrayal of Tambuwal which allowed Atiku to win the primaries. And before you justify Tambuwal's betrayal as "his choice to support whoever he wants", know that he and Wike reached an understanding of alliance up till the last minute of his defection to Atiku's side. I can't think of any way Wike annoyed him right there at the venue of the primaries to do such at the last minute. It will have been more humane (this is not to say that politicians have humane attributes though, but there is even a code of honour amongst thieves) of Tambueal to have made his mind know from day one so that Wike could have been given a chance to reconsider his options before the primaries.

Second, the unwritten zoning agreement within the party which if strictly adhered to, should favour the unanimous emergence of Wike as a Southern aspirant on the party platform has just been broken with the insistence of Atiku to contest the primaries.

Third, an undeserving Atiku after winning the primaries amidst backstabbing should as a matter of sportsmanship, akin to what Tinubu did, approached the other contestants especially Wike and forged a proper alliance with him. This alliance should possibly include the promise of the vice presidency slot to him, irrespective of the fact that Wkie publicly declared that he will never be a second hand man (vice president) in Nigeria. But Atiku made no such attempt. Even after a party committee was set up to chose between Wike and Ifeanyi Okowa, at which point Atiku had the free pass to appease Wike, he still decided to chose Okowa. This is of course apparent in Atiku's fear that Wike is a man like him - difficult, egoistic, rebellious, corrupt, sometimes recalcitrant and a potential troublemaker; all problems that Obasanjo had from Atiku as his vice president. So Atiku will not love to have the same sword he used passed over his own head, thus his choice of Ifeanyi Okowa, a more malleable person, as his running mate.

Now Tinubu has seen this crack and like a reharsh of 2015 strategy, has gone for the southern strongman of the party, with the hopes of forging an alliance and decimating the chances of the party in the south south, and maybe in the south east, come 2023 general elections.

I sincerely feel that if BAT could claim "investment in the APC" as a reason for a right of passage for him to emerge a candidate in his party, why can't Wike also claim same in PDP? This is irrespective of the fact that this strategy may be counterproductive as it did with the APC who lost the chance to field an egghead like Osinbajo as her candidate, a choice which would have prevented the problems associated with a Muslim-Muslim ticket and a move which would as well placed the APC a formidable opponent towards the rising popularity of Peter Obi who many is seeing as a viable alternative to the vibrancy, great health, oratory prowess and youthful strenght that they were denied in Osinbajo the moment he was stopped from emerging a candidate of the APC.

But at this point, an egoistic Wike will not mind sinking the PDP just so to prove his point. And an equally egoistic Atiku will not mind pushing his luck to the last just so to prove that Wike is irrelevant. Two points of return has been passed. The first point of repair was immediate post primaries when Atiku could have appeased Wike with something as ordinary as an official visit to him in Rivers state, the second point of repair being his chance to choose Wike as running mate. Sadly a point of no return has been reached and for the two giants, is a fight to the finish.




While your claim of placeholder deserves consideration, you are indeed wrong in the bolded. Yar'Adua had what is called Mennier's disease which had many complications associated with it, renal problems included. It was just a matter of time before the inevitable happened.

Tinubu on the other hand appears to be suffering from an early onset of the problems of advancing age. Some people like OBJ, are blessed with delayed onset of these inevitables. What this means is that there is no chance for rapid deterioration in health like it happened in Yar'Adua's case. So BAT may go an uneventful 8 years.

But truly, I still have my concerns, for an ailing BAT is incomparable to an energetic Òsínbàjó and Peter Òbí. However, time is the only referee in this instance.

Having said that, I hope that whoever clinches this position between the duo of Tinubu or Peter Obi should as a matter of urgency start moves, subtle, covert or otherwise to commence true federalism if he really wants to show Nigerians that he has their best interests at heart.

The productive people are bleeding and the goose that lays the golden egg is being starved. And this is serious injustice that must be addressed first to ensure that every other thing falls in line. Obasanjo brought some semblance of balance into the polity when he became the president and the peace was apparent in his reign.

True federalism will significantly reduce the power in the centre, thereby reducing the perennial struggle for the seat in Abuja between the various ethnicities and nationalities in this country. A sanwó-olú in Lagos will not be desperate to clinch the seat in Aṣọ Rock because the monies there will not even be worth the trouble. He will prefer to see the presidency more as prestige than as enrichment. He will rather stay in Lagos where the money is and the citizens will also be a winner because they can hold their governor who is closer to them in a small Lagos to account better than they can do to a Sanwó Olú in a larger, more difficult to administer Nigeria.

Also true federalism could be a first baby steps to regional system of governance that brought the much needed developments to all the regions at their own pace in those previous golden years of Nigeria. No thanks to Aguiyi-Ironsi who destroyed such lofty and great arrangement that plunged us back into the abbyss.

True federalism will ensure the North adopt the trajectory for development, away from this current mode of paratism which their leaders have kept the citizens in falsely believing is the way to live their lives. With federalism, the North will see a thriving, non-religious extremist states thriving and to avoid going hungry because the handouts from the federation account is no longer forthcoming, the citizens will be irked to push their leaders and reconsider a way to fully maximizer their own potentials of religious Ness,
agriculture, culture, solid minerals and tourism to also generate wealth for their region. There is a country in Eastern Africa whose Muslim population does not go to mecca for their hajj. They created their own hajj in their country and they're fairing well. A religiously tolerant, beautiful, digital, literal and modern Northern Nigeria could work to create a hajj for Nigerian moslems in the North and before you know it, the entire subsaharan Africa and Africa at large could soon start seeing Northern Nigeria as a viable, religiously acceptable hajj destination for those not able to afford the financial demands and stress associated to pilgrimage to Mecca.

If we experiment with true federalism for some years, we can decide if it is best we retain it or move again to trying out regional system.

Impressive. I had to go check when you registered and was not surprised it was 2007. You be old nairalander and your post reminded me of the glory days of this forum before 2015. It is rare for recent nairalanders to write logically and fluently like you did.

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Re: Tinubu, Wike’s London Meeting Rattles PDP, Atiku by lereinter(m): 11:40am On Aug 24, 2022
Finneseguy1:
Another name for Wike is VAWULENCE, Wike just be giving Atiku sleepless night back2back

Sleepless night indeed

Wike is a void for Atiku

If Atiku loses 2023 election it's never because of Atiku
Re: Tinubu, Wike’s London Meeting Rattles PDP, Atiku by Enkidu70: 12:17pm On Aug 24, 2022
Latakia:
The time I checked your Obi Pandora was in PDP about three months ago and also Atikuchukwu lossing mate in 2019 presidential election before he jump fence and became a labourer. grin

Yet another cretin

You're destined to be a slave your entire life so ride on, slave.
Re: Tinubu, Wike’s London Meeting Rattles PDP, Atiku by jamace(m): 12:29pm On Aug 24, 2022
Tinubu has gone for medical tourism in London. Old baba Tinubu wants to kill himself because of power. Anyway, he has failed already. Peter Obi is the man for presidency come 2023.

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