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An Egyptian Islamic Imam Professor Rejects Islam And Says Jesus Is Lord ! by Nobody: 1:21pm On Aug 12, 2011
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The former professor of Islamic history at Al-Azhar University, Cairo, Egypt



Disillusioned at Al-Azhar

Fifteen years ago I was the imam of a mosque in the city of Giza, Egypt, which is where the famous Egyptian pyramids are located. (Imam of a mosque is a position similar to pastor of a Christian church.) I preached the message of the week on Fridays from 12 to 1 in the afternoon, as well as performed other duties.

One Friday the topic of my message was jihad. I told the two hundred fifty people seated on the ground before me: Jihad in Islam is defending the Islamic nation and Islam against the attacks of the enemies. Islam is a religion of peace and only will fight against one who fights it. These infidels, heathens, perverts, Christians and Allah’s grievers, the Jews, out of envy of peaceful Islam and its prophet—they spread the myth that Islam is promulgated by the sword and violence. These infidels, the accusers of Islam, do not acknowledge Allah’s words. At this point I quoted from the Quran: And do not kill anyone whose killing Allah has forbidden, except for a just cause. —Surah 17:33, The Noble Quran When I spoke these words, I was just freshly graduated from Al-Azhar University in Cairo, Egypt —the oldest and most prestigious Islamic university in the world. It serves as the spiritual authority for Islam worldwide. I was teaching at the university, and I was an imam on the weekend at this mosque.

I preached my sermon on jihad that day according to the philosophy of the Egyptian government. Al-Azhar University focused us on the politically correct Islam and purposely overlooked areas of teaching that conflicted with the authority of Egypt . I was preaching what they taught me, but inside I was confused about the truth of Islam. But if I wanted to keep my job and my status at Al-Azhar, I needed to keep my thoughts to myself. After all, I knew what happened to people who differed from Al-Azhar’s agenda. They would be fired and would not be accepted to teach at any other university in the nation.

However, I knew that what I was teaching at the mosque and at Al-Azhar was not what I’d seen in the Quran, which I had memorized in its entirety by the age of twelve. What confused me the most was that I was told to preach about an Islam of love, kindness and forgiveness. At the same time, Muslim fundamentalists—the ones who were supposed to be practicing true Islam—were bombing churches and killing Christians.

At this time the jihad movement was very active in Egypt. Reports of bombings and attacks against Christians were common. It was such apart of everyday life that one time I heard a bomb go off at a church as I was riding the bus. I looked and saw a plume of smoke rising up a quarter mile away.

I had been raised in a family that was well established in Islam, and I had studied Islamic history. I was not involved in any radical groups. But one of my Muslim friends was a member of an Islamic group that was actively slaughtering Christians. Ironically, he was a chemistry student and had only recently become serious about his faith. Nevertheless, he was active in jihad. One day I asked him, “Why are you killing our neighbors and countrymen whom we grew up with?”

He was angry and astonished at my challenge. “Out of all Muslims you should know. The Christians did not accept the call of Islam, and they are not willing to pay us the jizyah (tax) to have the right to practice their beliefs. Therefore, the only option they have is the sword of Islamic law.”



Seeking the Truth

My conversations with him drove me to pour over the Quran and the books of the Islamic law, hoping to find something to contradict what he said. I couldn’t change the reality of what I read. As a Muslim, I realized I had two options:

I could continue to embrace the “Christianized” Islam—the Islam of peace, love, forgiveness and compassion, the Islam tailor-made to fit Egyptian government, politics and culture—thereby keeping my job and status.

I could become a member of the Islamic movement and embrace Islam according to the Quran and the teachings of Muhammad. Muhammad said, “I left you with something [the Quran]. If you hold on to what I left with you, you will not be led astray forever.”

Many times I tried to rationalize the kind of Islam I was practicing by saying to myself, well, you are not too far out. After all, there are verses in the Quran about love, peace, forgiveness and compassion. You only need to ignore the part about jihad and the killing of the non-Muslims. I went to every interpretation of the Quran trying to avoid jihad and killing non-Muslims, yet I kept finding support of the practice. The scholars agreed that Muslims should enforce jihad on infidels (those who reject Islam) and renegades (those who leave Islam). Yet jihad was not in harmony with other verses that spoke of living at peace with others. All the contradictions in the Quran were really causing a problem for my faith. I spent four years to earn my bachelor’s degree, graduating second out of a class of six thousand. Then there was another four years for my master’s and three more for my doctorate—all studying Islam. I knew the teachings well.

In one place alcohol was forbidden; in another it was allowed (compare Surah 5:90–91 with Surah 47:15). In one place it says Christians are very good people who love and worship one God, so you may be friends with them (Surah 2:62, 3:113–114). Then you find other verses that say Christians must convert, pay tax or be killed by the sword (Surah 9:29 ). The scholars had theological solutions to these problems, but I wondered how Allah, almighty and all powerful, could either contradict himself so much or change his mind so much.

Even the prophet of Islam, Muhammad, practiced his faith in ways that contradicted the Quran. The Quran said Muhammad was sent to show the mercy of God to the world. But he became a military dictator, attacking, killing and taking plunder to finance his empire. How is that showing mercy? Allah, the god revealed in the Quran, is not a loving father. It says that he desires to lead people astray (Surah 6:39 , 126). He does not help those who are led astray by him (Surah 30:29) and desires to use them to populate hell (Surah 32:13).

Islam is full of discrimination—against women, against non-Muslims, against Christians and most especially against Jews. Hatred is built in to the religion.

The history of Islam, which was my special area of study, could only be characterized as a river of blood.



Dangerous Questions

Finally, I reached the point where I was questioning the faith and the Quran with my students at the university. Some of them were members of terrorist movements, and they were enraged: “You can’t accuse Islam. What has happened to you? You have to teach us. You have to agree to Islam.” The university heard about it, and I was called in for a meeting in December 1991. To summarize the meeting, I told them what was in my heart: “I can no longer say that the Quran comes directly from heaven or from Allah. This cannot be the revelation of the true God.”

These were very blasphemous words, in their opinion. They spat in my face. One man cursed me, “You blasphemer. You bastard.” The university fired me and called the Egyptian secret police. The Secret Police Kidnapped Me to understand what happened next; you need to have a picture of how my family lived. My father had a very large home that was three stories tall. My whole family lived together in this house—my parents, my four married brothers with their families, my unmarried brother and myself. Only my sister lived elsewhere because she was married and lived with her husband. The house was divided into many apartments, and we were very comfortable. On the first floor were my parents’ apartment and an apartment I shared with my brother. On the floors above us were apartments for my other brothers. At three o’clock in the morning on the very same day that the university kicked me out, my father heard knocking at the door of our house. When he opened the door, fifteen to twenty men rushed in carrying Russian Kalashnikov assault weapons. They were not wearing uniforms, just regular clothes. They ran upstairs and all through the house, waking people up and looking for me. I think so many men came in at once so that I couldn’t run away before they found me.

They were all over the house before one of them found me asleep in my bed. My parents, brothers, spouses and children were awake, weeping and terrified, as they dragged me away. Everybody in the area heard the commotion.

I was taken to a place that looked like a prison and was placed in a cell. In the morning my parents frantically tried to figure out what had happened to me. Right away they went to the police station and demanded, “Where is our son?” But nobody knew anything about me. I was in the hands of the Egyptian secret police.

The Egyptian Prison

Spending time with the Egyptian secret police is much different than a visit to an American prison. They put me in a cell with two radical Muslims accused of committing terrorist acts. One was Palestinian and the other Egyptian.

For three days I was given no food or water. Every day the Egyptian man asked me, “Why are you here?” I refused to answer because I was afraid he would kill me if he knew that I had questioned Islam. On the third day, I told him I was a teacher at Al-Azhar University and an imam in Giza . Immediately he gave me a plastic bottle of water and some falafel and pita that were brought to him by his visitors, but he told me that the police had warned him not to give me anything. On the fourth day, the interrogation began. For the next four days the goal of the secret police was to make me confess that I had left Islam and to explain how it happened.

The interrogation began in a room with a large desk. My interrogator sat behind the desk, and I sat on the other side. Behind me were two or three police officers.

They were sure that I had been evangelized and converted to Christianity, so the interrogator kept badgering me, “What pastor did you talk to? What church have you been visiting? Why have you betrayed Islam?” He asked many questions. One time I hesitated too long when I answered. He nodded to the men behind me. They grabbed my hand and held it down on the desk. My interrogator held a lit cigarette. He reached over and extinguished it into the top of my hand. I still have this scar. I also have the scar on my lip where he did the same thing. Sometimes he used the cigarettes when he got angry; other times the officers just hit me across my face.

As my interrogation continued, the pressure grew stronger. One time they brought a fire poker into the room (the iron rod that you use to move burning wood in a fire). I wondered, what is that for? The next time the interrogator wanted to make his point, I found out. The poker was red hot, and one officer pressed it into the flesh of my left arm.

They wanted me to confess that I had been converted, but I said, “I didn’t betray Islam. I just said what I believe. I am an academic person. I am a thinker. I have a right to discuss any subject of Islam. This is part of my job and part of any academic life. I could not even dream of converting from Islam—it is my blood, my culture, my language, my family, my life. But if you accuse me of converting from Islam for what I say to you, then take me out of Islam. I don’t mind to be out of Islam.”



The Whip

My answer was not what they wanted to hear. I was taken to a room with a steel bed in it. They tied my feet to the foot of the bed and then put heavy stockings on them, almost like oven mitts.

One officer had a black whip, about four feet long, and he began whipping my feet. Another officer sat down next to me at the head of the bed with a pillow in his hands. When I cried out, he pushed the pillow into my face until I was quiet. I could not stop crying out, so a second officer came to put an extra pillow over my face.

As I was beaten I went unconscious, but when I woke up the officer was still whipping my feet. Then he stopped and they untied me, and one officer commanded, “Stand up.” I couldn’t at first, but he took the whip and beat my back until I stood.

Then he showed me a long passageway and said, “Run.” Again, when I couldn’t do it, he whipped my back until I ran down the passageway. When I got to the end, there was another officer waiting for me. He whipped me until I ran back to where I came from. They made me run back and forth. Later, I learned why they did that. The running was so that my feet wouldn’t swell. The stockings were so I wouldn’t have marks on my feet from the whipping. I assume the pillows were so nobody could hear my cries. Next I was taken to something that looked like a small, aboveground swimming pool. It was filled with ice-cold water. The officer with the whip said, “Get in,” so I got in. It was so cold that I tried to get out, but he whipped me every time I made a move.

I have low blood sugar, and it wasn’t very long before I passed out from the cold. When I woke up I was lying on my back in the bed where they whipped my feet, still in my wet clothes.


A Night in the Dark

One evening I was taken outside behind the building. I saw what looked like a small, concrete room with no windows or doors. The only opening was a skylight on the roof. They made me climb a ladder to the top and demanded, “Get in.” When I sat on the edge and put my feet down in the opening, I felt water. I could also see there was something swimming on the top of the water. This is my grave, I thought. They are going to kill me today. I slid down into the opening and felt the water rise up over my body, but then to my surprise I felt solid ground under my feet. The water only came up to my shoulders. Then rats, which were what I saw swimming in the water, started crawling all over my head and face. These rats had not been fed for a very long time. My interrogators were being clever. “This guy is a Muslim thinker,” they said, “so we will have the rats eat his head.” I was very scared for the first minute after they closed the skylight. They left me there all night and then came back the next morning to see if I were alive. When the skylight opened and I saw the sunlight, it was hope for me that I had survived and was still alive.

All that night not one rat bit me. They climbed all over my head and in my hair and played with my ears. One rat stood on my shoulders. I felt their mouths against my face, but it almost felt like kisses. I never felt a tooth. The rats were utterly faithful to me. Even today when I see a rat, I have a feeling of respect. I cannot explain why the rats behaved this way. Meeting with a Dear Friend The interrogation was not over. Later the officers took me to the door of a small room and said, “There is someone who loves you very much who wants to meet with you.” I asked, “Who is this?” I was hoping it was one of my family members or a friend to visit me or get me out of prison. They said, “You don’t know him, but he knows you.” They opened the door to the room, and inside I saw a big dog. There was nothing else in the room. Two people took me inside and then left me and shut the door. This was the first time my heart cried out. In my heart I cried to my Creator, You are my father, my God.You are to look after me. How can you leave me in these evil hands? I don’t know what these people are trying to do to me, but I know you will be with me and one day I will see you and meet you.

I walked to the middle of the empty room and slowly sat down cross-legged on the floor. The dog came and sat down in front of me. Minutes went by as this dog looked me over. I watched his eyes move from top to bottom over and over again. I went in my heart to prayer to the God I did not yet know. The dog got up and started walking in circles around me, liken animal about to eat something. Then he came to my right side and licked year with his tongue. He sat down by my right side and just stayed there. I was so exhausted. After he just sat there for a while, I fell asleep. When I woke up, the dog was in the corner of the room. He ran to me, as if to say good morning. Then he licked my right ear again and sat down again at my right side.

When the officers opened the door they saw me praying with the dog sitting next to me. I heard one say, “I can’t believe this man is a human being. This man is a devil—he’s Satan.” The other replied, “I don’t believe that. There is unseen power standing behind this man and protecting him.” “Which power? This man is an infidel. It’s got to be Satan because this man is against Allah.”

Someone watching over me they took me back to my cell. While I was gone, my Egyptian cellmate had asked the police, “Why are you persecuting this man?” They told him, “Because he is denying Islam.” That made my cellmate furious. As soon as I got back in the cell, he was ready to kill me. But I had only been in there fifteen to twenty minutes when a police officer came with transfer papers for this man and took him away. I had to ask myself, What is going on here? What power is protecting me? At that time, I did not know the answer. I did not spend much time wondering about it. In a short while my own transfer papers came through. I was to be taken to a permanent prison in southern Cairo . At this point I did not think that my interrogators were even human. I had been arrested for merely questioning Islam. Now my faith was really shaken. And I was on my way to another prison.

The next week I spent in a prison in southern Cairo . It was relatively relaxed time. God sent me a prison guard who did not agree with radical Islam. All during this time my family was trying to find out where I was. They had no success until my mother’s brother, who was a high-ranking member of the Egyptian Parliament, returned to the country after traveling overseas. My mother called him, sobbing, “For two weeks we have not known where our son is. He is gone.” My uncle had the connections that were needed. Fifteen days after I was kidnapped, he came to the prison personally with the release papers and took me home.

Later, the police gave my father this report: We have received a fax from Al-Azhar University accusing your son of leaving Islam, but after an interrogation of fifteen days, we found no evidence to support it. My father was relieved to hear this. Out of all my brothers and sisters, I was the only one who had studied Islam at the university, and he was very proud of me. He could not even imagine I would ever leave Islam, so he attributed the whole incident to a bad attitude toward my scholarship on the part of the people at the university.

“We don’t need them,” he said, and he asked me to start work immediately as a sales director for his factory. He owned a successful business that produced leather jackets and men’s and women’s clothing.

A Year without Faith

For one year I lived without any faith. I had no God to pray to, to call to, to live for. I believed in the existence of a God who was merciful and righteous, but I had no idea who He was. Was He the God of the Muslims, the Christians or the Jews? Or was He some animal—like the cow of the Hindus? I had no knowledge of how to find Him.

You have to understand that if a Muslim comes to the conclusion that Islam is not the truth and he has no religion to turn to, it is the most difficult time in his life. Faith is in the fabric of the life of a Middle Eastern person. He cannot imagine how to live without knowing his God. During this whole year, my physical body expressed the pain that was in my spirit. Though I had every material thing I needed, I was plagued with a deep tiredness from constantly trying to use my mind to figure out the identity of the true God. I suffered constantly from headaches. I went to a doctor who was a relative of the family. He did a scan of my brain, but heeded not find anything wrong. He prescribed some tablets that helped.



The Sermon on the Mount

I ended up visiting a nearby pharmacy one or two times a week for packets of tablets, getting a small number of tablets each time, hoping the headaches would just go away for good. After I had been coming for a while, the pharmacist asked me, “What is going on in your life?” I told her, “Nothing is going on. I have no complaint except for one thing: I am living without God. I don’t know who is my God, who created me and created the universe.”

She said, “But you were a professor at the most respected Islamic university in Egypt . Your family is very respected in the community.” “That is true,” I replied, “but I have discovered falsehoods in their teachings. I no longer believe my home and family are built on a foundation of truth. I had always clothed myself in the lies of Islam. Now I feel Unclad. How can I fill the emptiness in my heart? Please help me. ” “OK,” she said. “Today I will give you these tablets, and I will give you this book—the Bible. But please promise me not to take any tablets before you read something from this book.” I took the book home and opened it at random. My eyes fell on Matthew 5:38: You have heard that it was said, “Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.” But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also.

My whole body began trembling. I had studied the Quran my whole life—not once did I find words as inspiring as this. I had come face to face with the Lord Jesus Christ.

I lost all track of time. It felt as if I were sitting on a cloud above a hill, and in front of me was the greatest teacher in the universe telling me about the secrets of heaven and the heart of God. I could easily compare the Bible to what I had learned from my years of studying the Quran, and there was no doubt in my mind that I was finally encountering the true God. I was still reading in the early hours of the next day, and by dawn I gave my heart to Jesus.

Ambushed I only told the pharmacist and his wife that I had accepted Jesus, but in Egypt, if anyone left Islam, it was automatically assumed that he had become a Christian and therefore must be killed. Because of this, fundamentalists sent two men to ambush me and kill me. It happened when I was walking home from visiting a friend. It was only a fifteen- or twenty-minute walk through Giza . I was on Tersae Street , near my home, when I saw two men standing in front of a grocery shop. They we redressed traditionally with the long, white robes, long beards and head coverings. I thought they were just customers. I never imagined they would do anything to me.

When I reached the shop, they stopped me, and then suddenly both pulled out knives and began trying to stab me. I had no weapon, and because it was a hot day, I was just wearing a T-shirt and pants. I put up my hands to protect myself. Again and again the blades struck me and cut my wrists. There were other people on the street, but no one helped me. They just gathered to watch. This was typical for those years. People would intervene if it was just a fistfight, but they wouldn’t get involved with knives. They also didn’t want to be in the way if someone pulled a gun. The first attacker was trying to stab my heart. He almost did it, but I moved. He missed by about five inches and got me in the shoulder instead. When he pulled the knife out, I remember looking down and seeing the blood come out in a stream.

I fell to the ground and just curled up in a little ball, trying to protect myself. Then the other attacker tried to stab me in the stomach, but the blade turned, and he stabbed me in the shin instead. By this time I had lost so much blood that I passed out. There was no hope for me until two police officers arrived on motorcycles and my attackers ran away. I was taken to the hospital and treated. In the hospital, the police asked if I knew why I was attacked. I said I did not. Again, my father rejected any evidence that I was abandoning Islam. He just could not think in those terms.

My Father Learns the Truth I continued to work for my father and did not speak of my new faith. In fact, he sent me to South Africa in 1994 to explore business opportunities for him. While there, I spent three days with a Christian family from India .When we parted, they gave me a small cross on a necklace to wear. This small cross marked the turning point in my life. After a little more than a week, my father noticed the chain on my neck and became very upset because, according to Islamic culture, only women are allowed to wear jewelry around their necks. “Why do you wear this chain?” he demanded.

It seemed as if my tongue spoke on its own as I replied,” Father, this is not a chain. This is a cross. It represents Jesus, who died on a cross like this for me, for you and for everybody in the whole world. I received Jesus as my God and Savior, and I pray for you and for the rest of my family to also accept Jesus Christ as your Savior.”

First, my father fainted right there in the street. Some of my brothers rushed out to him, and my mother started crying in fear. I stayed with them as they bathed my father’s face with water. When he came to, he was so upset he could hardly speak, but he pointed at me. In a voice hoarse with rage he cried out, “Your brother is a convert. I must kill him today!”

Wherever he went, my father carried a gun under his arm on a leather strap. (Most wealthy people in Egypt carry guns.) He pulled out his gun and pointed it at me. I started running down the street, and as I dived around a corner, I heard the bullets whining past me. I kept running for my life. Leaving My Home Forever I ran to my sister’s house, which was about half a mile away. I asked her to help me get my passport, clothes and other documents from my father’s house. She wanted to know what was wrong, and I told her, “Father wants to kill me.” She wanted to know why, and I said, “I don’t know. You must ask Father.”

When I ran away, my father knew exactly where I was headed because my sister and I were very close, and her house was nearby. My father had walked to my sister’s house, and he arrived while she and I were talking. He banged on the door, crying with tears streaming down his face, “My daughter, please open the door.” Then he shouted, “Your brother is a convert! He has left the Islamic faith. I must kill him now!”

My sister opened the door and tried to calm him down. “Father, he is not here. Maybe he went to another place. Why don’t you go home and relax, and later we can talk about this as a family.” My sister had mercy on me and gathered my things from my parents’ house. She and my mother gave me some money, and I got in my car and drove away on the evening of August 28, 1994.

For three months I struggled to travel through Northern Egypt, Libya, Chad and Cameroon. I finally stopped in the Congo. At that point I had malaria. They found an Egyptian doctor to examine me. He said that I would be dead by morning, and they made arrangements to get a coffin from Congo ’s Egyptian embassy to send me back home.

To their shock, I woke up the next morning. I left the hospital after five days and started to tell people everywhere about what Jesus did for me. Life as a Follower of Jesus Ten years have gone by since I accepted the Lord Jesus as my Savior. He called me and gave me a personal relationship with Him—something that Islam never offered.

I have never stopped crying for my Muslim people, whom I left behind, asking the Lord to deliver them from the darkness of Islam. As you read the pages of this book, you will come to understand how great this darkness is. It is the teachings of Islam that have produced terrorists who seem capable of any kind of evil in the name of Allah. Now the whole world wants to understand what Islam teaches. A great amount of misinformation has been shared in the media and on the Internet. My goal is to help you see plainly why these people do what they do. I don’t want to motivate you to anger, however. I want to motivate you to believe—to believe for the fall of Islam and the release of its captives, in Jesus’ name.

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Re: An Egyptian Islamic Imam Professor Rejects Islam And Says Jesus Is Lord ! by LagosShia: 2:36pm On Aug 12, 2011
another false story by the desperate christian missionary.the fact is the story is so poor that the self-acclaimed imam did not know that alcohol is both condemned and forbidden in the Holy Quran.

he also did not know that christians can be our friends but that does not exempt them from tax (jizyah) and those of them that mess up would be treated appropriately.

we never stop heraing about all these imaginary imams that only exist in fantastic missionary stories.let us know more about him and if his claims are right.

whether anyone convert is not relevant to me,because he obviously is just another human being who can err and may have his own personal reasons for conversion than because of truth and correct doctrines and beliefs.examining the reasons he put forth for his conversion are false or at least ignorant claims (i.e. on alcohol,and befriending christians).that aside,we dont know the personality of this person or who he really is.therefore,this is an imaginary story and a fabrication until proven otherwise.
Re: An Egyptian Islamic Imam Professor Rejects Islam And Says Jesus Is Lord ! by Nobody: 2:53pm On Aug 12, 2011
Lol, grin grin grin grin

I just knew that you could not resist this one.

All over Youtube and Internet forums, hundreds of people are coming forward to say they have left Islam and have met Jesus miraculously. But the shocking element to this, is that the Muslims jump on their cases immediately and scream lies lies lies.

I have personally met uncountable people who have left Islam some pastors and personal friends.

Yet Muslims again, show who they worship by LYING AND LYING AND LYING like the Father of Lies.

GOD HELP YOU

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Re: An Egyptian Islamic Imam Professor Rejects Islam And Says Jesus Is Lord ! by salisuammy(f): 3:12pm On Aug 12, 2011
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Re: An Egyptian Islamic Imam Professor Rejects Islam And Says Jesus Is Lord ! by LagosShia: 3:21pm On Aug 12, 2011
[size=18pt]Former Christian Priests And Missionaries Who Have Embraced Islam [/size]

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-734162.0.html
Re: An Egyptian Islamic Imam Professor Rejects Islam And Says Jesus Is Lord ! by Sweetnecta: 4:42pm On Aug 12, 2011
@Frosbel; « #2 on: Today at 02:53:01 PM »
[Quote]Lol, Grin Grin Grin Grin

I just knew that you could not resist this one.

All over Youtube and Internet forums, hundreds of people are coming forward to say they have left Islam and have met Jesus miraculously. But the shocking element to this, is that the Muslims jump on their cases immediately and scream lies lies lies.

I have personally met uncountable people who have left Islam some pastors and personal friends.

Yet Muslims again, show who they worship by LYING AND LYING AND LYING like the Father of Lies.

GOD HELP YOU[/Quote]i have personally met many former pastors, nun, etc who left christianity. including rabbanical students. We must think that the traffic issue on islam is only fro but also to. the fact that people in the west [never mind what others say] are entering islam after 911 is a testament to the truth of Islam. the few who leave like the al azhar former professor is not the end of islam.

Allah says 'those who disbelieve after belief, then return to belief and then disbelieve, then believe and return to disbelief . . . this verse in Surah Nisaa points to 2 things for me;

1]. people may be lukewarm in their commitment, sometimes so much so that they abandon such a faith for something worse like muslim leaving islam [this is disaster on the life of such a person because if he dies as a disbeliever, he will see his reality and it is too late to return].

2]. no one in islam should be arrogant and say he is safe from the plan [makr] of Allah, because Allah is the best of Planners; hence pray to Allah always to have the best plan for you, that your feet are planted firmly in islam, not wavering, because the death of former believer dying in disbelief is the greatest disaster on his soul [no one can feel the heat any head in the body of a dead person to know that he is destined for hell. if this possible those disbelievers after they are embalm will be very hot. i hope you know that the embalming is a punishment on the body?].




[Quote]Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness,but instead expose them[/Quote]I wonder why you have not exposed the christians who says Jesus hung for them when he said long before this hoax that his work was completed, right there at the dinner table? maybe the people had too much wine [his blood] that they didn't hear him, just the same that they were dull students failing right after the master left that the holy ghost had to correct them [part of the work of the another comforter]?
please expose the christian, ask them where is 'that prophet' that neither Jesus nor John is, but expected to come anyhow?
please expose the christian, ask them where is the book of the another comforter and if they say its the holy ghost, where is his book?
please expose the christian, ask them how did the ghost accomplished hearing from God [himself] and talking to disciples [voice to be heard?
please expose the christian, ask them how did the ghost correct mistakes, lead to all truth, teach new things of truth, etc and glorify Jesus?
please expose the christian, ask them how did Jesus accomplished his return to the disciple when no one is alive now and he still being expected?
please expose the christian, ask them how is Jesus son of God and Mary is not wife of God, yet Adam is not son or Eve is not daughter of God?
please expose the christian, ask them how is Jesus God when he says his God is God of all and his Lord is Lord of all and He is One Lord God?
salisuammy (f)



@Salisuammy; Re: An Egyptian Islamic Imam Professor Rejects Islam And Says Jesus Is Lord !
[Quote]« #3 on: Today at 03:12:13 PM »
[Quote]frosbel their problem is ignorance, have u ever seen a christian who wants to kill a muslim convert? there is this ustaz in my place who had direct confrontation with the holy spirit and gave his life to Christ but had to pack and leave because they were threatening to kill him if he doesn't return to their pagan worship. Will u believe that this people make sacrifice every Friday with ram, goat or whatever they can afford? I am an example because my father and uncles nearly killed me because i saw the light(Christ) and my father refused to sponsor me after that but God in his infinite mercies helped me and now am a graduate and my father now asks me for money.[/Quote]Many Christians and non Christians struggled to acquire success with family help. if academic success and or wealth were the hallmark of your Trinity as being True God, what do you say of the success of the mouth of the south CNN founder ted turner who says there is no God? What do you say about Bill Gates of Microsoft who can bankroll nigeria yet he says there is no Hod? What do you say about Dangote who is there with you in Nigeria, a muslim and one of the wealthiest? stop thinking locally.
help frosbel with the above agenda.[/quote]
Re: An Egyptian Islamic Imam Professor Rejects Islam And Says Jesus Is Lord ! by BetaThings: 6:49am On Aug 13, 2011
salisuammy:

Will u believe that this people make sacrifice every Friday with ram, goat or whatever they can afford? I am an example because my father and uncles nearly killed me because i saw the light(Christ)
If what you are saying is true, I cannot see how muslims will go to work on Fridays. Because they would be busy sacrificing. And christians would be mentioning this every Friday. Wouldn't they?
So is it true that a lot of christians are converting? If yes, wouldn't just a few have been killed on account of that and same reported? Or are we just to believe this your statement without evidence


salisuammy:

sweetnecta i now believe your problem is spiritual and u can never see light in any thing with your diabolic sun worship.
You claim to be an ex-muslim. If true, you would know that muslims do not worship the sun
“Among His Signs are the Night and the Day and the Sun and Moon. Prostrate (adore) not to the Sun and the Moon but prostrate to God, Who created them, if it is Him ye wish to serve.” (Qur’an, 41: 37)

salisuammy:

@kaze4blues and 13volts muslims who believe that islam is the only way to heaven would be surprised when the gate of heaven is shut to them on the last day. Any celebrity who becomes a muslim is doing it because islam permits them to indulge in their immoral ways, they turn because they are been criticized about they ways and they welcome to do it in islam. am sure he would start showing ponography still saying your acclaimed 'salam alekum.' hypocrites
Islam does not permit immorality. P.orno.graphy is forbidden!
The Anglican Church is ordaining man-loving-men as priests. Islam does not allow that
Is it that you don't really understand Islam or lying is a pre-requisite for acceptance as a true christian?

salisuammy:

day1[b]1 am sure u can  call your mother[/b] a dundee angry.  u claim to speak English yet say " may God help u" is not a prayer. U must really be a dunce then. How can u leave in peace when u will still raise your knife and kill any christian even if she were your mother. U are a fool for calling me a dundee.

salisuammy:

am sure u will recognize your grandmother [/b]when u see her


salisuammy:

[b]U are still calling your mother a goat
wink because am somebody's mother too.
Are you sure that Islam taught you how to abuse other people's parents? Islam forbids that. I am sure you learnt this from chrsitianity
Re: An Egyptian Islamic Imam Professor Rejects Islam And Says Jesus Is Lord ! by Nobody: 8:46am On Aug 13, 2011
@BetaThings

Let me comment on a few of your random statements.


Islam does not permit immorality. P.orno.graphy is forbidden!

But they violation children, such as the article on a 2 year old violated by your Islamic brothers. And they marry 4 wives ( sex addicts ) and permit temporary marriages aka prostitution.

What about all the male and female prostitution in Saudi Arabia and Dubai and did you not hear recently that internet traffic for sexually disgusting data was HIGHEST from the middle east ??

Allah says 'those who disbelieve after belief, then return to belief and then disbelieve, then believe and return to disbelief . . . this verse in Surah Nisaa points to 2 things for me;

1]. people may be lukewarm in their commitment, sometimes so much so that they abandon such a faith for something worse like muslim leaving islam [this is disaster on the life of such a person because if he dies as a disbeliever, he will see his reality and it is too late to return].

2]. no one in islam should be arrogant and say he is safe from the plan [makr] of Allah, because Allah is the best of Planners; hence pray to Allah always to have the best plan for you, that your feet are planted firmly in islam, not wavering, because the death of former believer dying in disbelief is the greatest disaster on his soul [no one can feel the heat any head in the body of a dead person to know that he is destined for hell. if this possible those disbelievers after they are embalm will be very hot. i hope you know that the embalming is a punishment on the body?].


1. Leaving ISLAM is not a disaster for anybody on this planet. Only JESUS can SAVE, Muhammad's tomd is still in Saudi , Jesus's tomb is empty, praise the LORD. If you do not repent you will likewise perish in your sins.


2. Lying again , not a surprise here, even your own Quran says ALLAH is the best of ALL Deceivers, who are you kidding, you replace deceivers with planners , lol.  grin



Qur'an verses

In the following Qur'an verses, Allah reveals to us that he is the "best deceiver".

Qur'an 3:54
Arabic: ومكروا ومكر الله والله خير الماكرين

Transliteration: Wamakaroo wamakara Allahu waAllahu khayru almakireena

Literal: And they cheated/deceived and Allah cheated/deceived, and Allah (is) the best (of) the cheaters/deceivers.



Qur'an 7:99
Arabic: افامنوا مكر الله فلايامن مكر الله الا القوم الخاسرون

Transliteration: Afaaminoo makra Allahi fala ya/manu makra Allahi illa alqawmu alkhasiroona

Literal: Did they secure Allah's scheme/deceit ? So no(one) trusts Allah's scheme/deceit except the nation the losers .




Qur'an 8:30
Arabic: واذ يمكر بك الذين كفروا ليثبتوك او يقتلوك او يخرجوك ويمكرون ويمكر الله والله خير الماكرين

Transliteration: Wa-ith yamkuru bika allatheena kafaroo liyuthbitooka aw yaqtulooka aw yukhrijooka wayamkuroona wayamkuru Allahu waAllahu khayru almakireena

Literal: And when those who disbelieved deceive/scheme at you to affix/affirm you, or kill you, or bring you out, and they scheme/deceive , and Allah deceives/schemes and Allah (is) best (of) the deceivers/schemers .




Keep lying, ALLAH was a deceiver, so what do we expect !!!!

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Re: An Egyptian Islamic Imam Professor Rejects Islam And Says Jesus Is Lord ! by Sweetnecta: 11:48am On Aug 13, 2011
@Frosbel; is the attitude that you your show from Jesus or from Paul? Don't answer until you read the below;
[Quote]
Re: An Egyptian Islamic Imam Professor Rejects Islam And Says Jesus Is Lord !
« #7 on: Today at 08:46:59 AM »

@BetaThings

Let me comment on a few of your random statements.

Quote
Islam does not permit immorality. P.orno.graphy is forbidden!

But they violation children, such as the article on a 2 year old violated by your Islamic brothers. And they marry 4 wives ( sex addicts ) and permit temporary marriages aka prostitution.

What about all the male and female prostitution in Saudi Arabia and Dubai and did you not hear recently that internet traffic for sexually disgusting data was HIGHEST from the middle east ??[/Quote]the red light district of Amsterdam, Holland, unfortunately most nigerian women waling the streets outside nigeria are not muslims, but christians.



[Quote]Quote
Allah says 'those who disbelieve after belief, then return to belief and then disbelieve, then believe and return to disbelief . . . this verse in Surah Nisaa points to 2 things for me;

1]. people may be lukewarm in their commitment, sometimes so much so that they abandon such a faith for something worse like muslim leaving islam [this is disaster on the life of such a person because if he dies as a disbeliever, he will see his reality and it is too late to return].

2]. no one in islam should be arrogant and say he is safe from the plan [makr] of Allah, because Allah is the best of Planners; hence pray to Allah always to have the best plan for you, that your feet are planted firmly in islam, not wavering, because the death of former believer dying in disbelief is the greatest disaster on his soul [no one can feel the heat any head in the body of a dead person to know that he is destined for hell. if this possible those disbelievers after they are embalm will be very hot. i hope you know that the embalming is a punishment on the body?].

1. Leaving ISLAM is not a disaster for anybody on this planet. [b][b]Only JESUS can SAVE[/b][/b], Muhammad's tomd is still in Saudi , Jesus's tomb is empty, praise the LORD. If you do not repent you will likewise perish in your sins.[/Quote]physician save thyself. in a riptide i will not cry to or rush to a drowning man to save me. a person who can't save himself will not save me.



[Quote]. Lying again , not a surprise here, even your own Quran says ALLAH is the best of ALL Deceivers, who are you kidding, you replace deceivers with planners , lol. Grin

Qur'an verses

In the following Qur'an verses, Allah reveals to us that he is the "best deceiver".

Qur'an 3:54
Arabic: ومكروا ومكر الله والله خير الماكرين

Transliteration: Wamakaroo wamakara Allahu waAllahu khayru almakireena

Literal: And they cheated/deceived and Allah cheated/deceived, and Allah (is) the best (of) the cheaters/deceivers.[/Quote]is He cheating? the cheaters, the evildoers, the deceivers? did He promise them that He will allow them free range, unchecked and now He is cheating them? is He deceiving the deceivers, the cheaters, now that He is checking them and disallowing them the free range to do evil?
you are making sense and you live in england? just to defend christianity you took to deceit, If Jesus is unhappy with you, Paul will because he lied to promote his gospel too.



[Quote]Qur'an 7:99
Arabic: افامنوا مكر الله فلايامن مكر الله الا القوم الخاسرون

Transliteration: Afaaminoo makra Allahi fala ya/manu makra Allahi illa alqawmu alkhasiroona

Literal: Did they secure Allah's scheme/deceit ? So no(one) trusts Allah's scheme/deceit except the nation the losers .[/Quote]is this a good read to you? does it need improvement to read well a mistake free english sentence? i am definitely after this leave you to your conscience. below is a better read, appropriately, so compare yours to it; Then did they feel secure from the plan of Allah ? But no one feels secure from the plan of Allah except the losing people.



[Quote]Qur'an 8:30
Arabic: واذ يمكر بك الذين كفروا ليثبتوك او يقتلوك او يخرجوك ويمكرون ويمكر الله والله خير الماكرين

Transliteration: Wa-ith yamkuru bika allatheena kafaroo liyuthbitooka aw yaqtulooka aw yukhrijooka wayamkuroona wayamkuru Allahu waAllahu khayru almakireena

Literal: And when those who disbelieved deceive/scheme at you to affix/affirm you, or kill you, or bring you out, and they scheme/deceive , and Allah deceives/schemes and Allah (is) best (of) the deceivers/schemers .[/Quote]you need to tell us how the disbelievers deceived or schemed 'at Muhammad' who knew it since they never hid their hatred. then, read mine below and take to a professor of english or a librarian to tell you which of the two correct in content, you will be amazed at your finding; And [remember, O Muhammad], when those who disbelieved plotted against you to restrain you or kill you or evict you [from Makkah]. But they plan, and Allah plans. And Allah is the best of planners.


frosbel, you may actually have problem at telling the truth.
Re: An Egyptian Islamic Imam Professor Rejects Islam And Says Jesus Is Lord ! by Starlett: 9:56pm On Aug 13, 2011
I can attest to the veracity of the OP. I have personally read the full book by the former professor, from which the excerpts were taken.

Great great. In fact, right now, if I could lay hands on it, would certainly share it with lots of muslim friends, especially guys.
Re: An Egyptian Islamic Imam Professor Rejects Islam And Says Jesus Is Lord ! by LagosShia: 10:44pm On Aug 13, 2011
Starlett:

I can attest to the veracity of the OP. I have personally read the full book by the former professor, from which the excerpts were taken.

Great great. In fact, right now, if I could lay hands on it, would certainly share it with lots of muslim friends, especially guys.

from what i read about this gentle man who is making a story up (that is if the story is not fictional and made up),the man was raised by a christian.he grew up was christian influence.also,schooling at al-azhar is not anything 'special' if one can afford it.being an 'imam' (in his case a prayer leader) is also not an achievement as anyone by appointment or volunteering can attain.

this is one man who claims to have become christian and has a dramatic story about being punished in dictatorial egypt,under mubarak,a western ally.you should also inform your friends about the many priests and preachers of christianity who have embraced islam:

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-734162.0.html
Re: An Egyptian Islamic Imam Professor Rejects Islam And Says Jesus Is Lord ! by Nobody: 10:50pm On Aug 13, 2011
Why are you such a denier.

I am fed up with Muslims and their propaganda that regards everyone who changes from Islam to Christianity as either a western puppet or was not a Muslim in the first place.

You must really have such a high opinion of ISLAM , such that you think it impossible that Muslims will leave . Of course they will leave when they get to understand the reality of Muhammad's life and his message.

Now you can understand my video about the Arab movie, always blaming others but themselves.

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Re: An Egyptian Islamic Imam Professor Rejects Islam And Says Jesus Is Lord ! by Sweetnecta: 11:03pm On Aug 13, 2011
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ if it were to happen that the king of saudi arabia renounces islam, it will have no negative impact on the minds of sincere muslims, even though the kafirun will use it to make their own cases, thinking it is an advantage of some sort.

the reality is that islam is the reality etched on the heart of individuals. if you are fortunate enough to be born into the faith, the fortune may not stay with you because the heart by desire calls for the soul to err wanting to take the easier choice by freewill between restrictive rightful deeds and unadulterated evil deeds and disobedience by choice. the atheist is a good example by his denial that God does not even exist, no Master Planner, yet he controls everything he does by planning ahead, even though with of the effort he puts in what he is doing, the outcome may be failure.

the egyptian former al azhar professor leaving islam is already replaced by many christian professors and others within western countries an others. few years ago i met a palestinian pharmacist, who became muslim in america. that is to show you how Allah Wills success for this palestinian, even outside the land of palestine where he was a christian, coming to america to become muslim. he is seif pharmacy on kennydy boulevard, between tonnelli and sip avenue. then there is the disaster of the former al ahzar professor from egypt who's journey to disgrace started by contacts with the wrong individuals in egypt and out of egypt.

this shows islamis not a truly inherited religion, since many more entered it in america even more quickly after 911, including jewish people who used to have their normal jewish lives, until islam opened their eyes that they are not special to God than anyone if they do not worship an obey God, as He ought to in the process acceptable to Him; Islam.
Re: An Egyptian Islamic Imam Professor Rejects Islam And Says Jesus Is Lord ! by Nobody: 11:10pm On Aug 13, 2011
You keep saying western Christians and I have only met 1 Italian catholic who became a Muslim, but is now in doubt about certain aspects of their behavior. We talk quite a lot and he condemns the barbarity of many of your brothers worldwide.

Tell me , I live in the UK, but have never met one convert to ISLAM, but I have met many women and men , many Nigerians who have left ISLAM !!!


Of course there are some gullible white ladies , predominantly from deprived backgrounds who are lured to ISLAM, but THEY DO NOT LAST, everybody knows this !!!!
Re: An Egyptian Islamic Imam Professor Rejects Islam And Says Jesus Is Lord ! by Sweetnecta: 11:39pm On Aug 13, 2011
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
have you heard of Cat Steven in the Hard Rock of the 1970s? he is an english man name Yusuf Islam, today.

i live in the usa and we have turns of white people who are muslims. one of the is Yusuf Hamza of Zetuna institute in california.

you must be a person who dont pay enough attention. at least do search of convert to islam, in the UK on youtube.


i had just spoken to a friend a moment ago out of geneva. his niece is married to a muslim and he is saying to me that he will pray at the mass for me tomorrow. i am still fasting so i said he should become muslim and then pray for me.

he said never. so i reminded him that islam is already in his family at least by the child of his niece born to the muslim. we began our conversation like that, so i have now asked him to invite me to his religion, because i am now inviting him to islam and he is allowed to ask questions, and at the end he is free to accept after he is convinced that God is One and His way today was the same in the time of Adam.

the Sunnah of God is Unchanging; 1 God without partner, no son or daughter and no parent.

you can not make up your own religion, or your way different from what God Commands.
Re: An Egyptian Islamic Imam Professor Rejects Islam And Says Jesus Is Lord ! by Sweetnecta: 11:48pm On Aug 13, 2011
@Frosbel; this is a menu for you. this will lead you to know more about UK and isla,


http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=uk+reverts+to+islam+2011&aq=0&oq=UK+reverts
Re: An Egyptian Islamic Imam Professor Rejects Islam And Says Jesus Is Lord ! by Nobody: 6:49am On Aug 14, 2011
they will never stop stigmatising islam and lai agaist muslims. Only Allah can revive his religion. For nothing to argue with them. They know the truth but they ar just ingrate.
Have they found any Quran that the wordings in it are different from the one read in the life time of the prophet. Muhammed p.b.u.h. But there are hundreds different Bibble which there words are not the same. New testament, old testament all this are rubish.
If u interprint the Quran u will fail because an ordinary free thinker can never get it wright. Allah has said 'no one will ponder upon his words and signs but those the he endowed with wisdom'
this is real ISLAM in brief.
The pandemonium wil never ceas ravage
If we dont find panacea from islam savage
It has come to take us out of the siege
Islam salvation is not a new age
It is as old as the world age
Allah has creed it to save us from the life bondage
The practise of it pristine is by knowldge
Islam is not a religion from any one lineage
It is a must practise for the globa village
Dont claim islam and stray from it frontage
By terrorising and propergate islam with bad image
Being a fundamentalist is a great advantage
Fundamentalism is islamic pledge
Terrorising and vandalising is not islam heritage
With truth and faiti i will hold the islam flag.
Re: An Egyptian Islamic Imam Professor Rejects Islam And Says Jesus Is Lord ! by emofine(f): 7:29am On Aug 14, 2011
salisuammy:
have u ever seen a christian who wants to kill a muslim convert?

Good question. I have privately pondered on this.
Re: An Egyptian Islamic Imam Professor Rejects Islam And Says Jesus Is Lord ! by Sweetnecta: 8:15am On Aug 14, 2011
when they exist, its hush hush. no media takes up the story[es].
Re: An Egyptian Islamic Imam Professor Rejects Islam And Says Jesus Is Lord ! by LagosShia: 12:35pm On Aug 14, 2011
frosbel:

Why are you such a denier.

I am fed up with Muslims and their propaganda that regards everyone who changes from Islam to Christianity as either a western puppet or was not a Muslim in the first place.

You must really have such a high opinion of ISLAM , such that you think it impossible that Muslims will leave . Of course they will leave when they get to understand the reality of Muhammad's life and his message.

Now you can understand my video about the Arab movie, always blaming others but themselves.



@the above mumu aka frosbel,

you have just being refuted on your allegations in post #9 in the below thread.you are coming here and repeating the same song again.its obvious you're bent on being mischievous.who taught you that Jesus or your possessed pastors?

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-734424.0.html

i do have a high opinion of Islam because i know that even if i were to stop practicing islam or join another faith,it would not be because islam lacks teh truth but because i either lack the understanding of islam or i am not up to the task to follow the truth.
Re: An Egyptian Islamic Imam Professor Rejects Islam And Says Jesus Is Lord ! by Nobody: 12:53pm On Aug 14, 2011
@ usuf.saeed

Terrorising and vandalising is not islam heritage
With truth and faiti i will hold the islam flag.



LOL, LOL    grin grin grin grin grin



Tell that to the birds

ISLAM = TERROR


[flash=400,400]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Gzyeo1Z1I4?version=3&hl=en[/flash]

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Re: An Egyptian Islamic Imam Professor Rejects Islam And Says Jesus Is Lord ! by Nobody: 12:59pm On Aug 14, 2011
@LagosShia
you have just being refuted on your allegations in post #9 in the below thread.you are coming here and repeating the same song again.its obvious you're bent on being mischievous.who taught you that Jesus or your possessed pastors?


You Muslims are always refuting and abrogating, no wonder the Quran is so corrupt.


i do have a high opinion of Islam because i know that even if i were to stop practicing islam or join another faith,it would not be because islam lacks teh truth but because i either lack the understanding of islam or i am not up to the task to follow the truth.

Jesus Christ is the WAY , THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE.

Muhammad does not have a clue of the way and was not even sure of his salvation.

Jesus made definitive statements, Muhammad made assumptive statements.

Jesus's assurance :

"Jesus told him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the Father except through me." - John 14:6

" Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in me will live, even though he dies;" - John 11:25



Muhammad's guess work.


“By Allah, though I am the Apostle of Allah, yet I do not know what Allah will do to me.” (Hadith vol. 5, no. 266).


[size=15pt]So if Mohammad was not sure and he was the beginner of this religion how can any Muslim be sure?
[/size]
Re: An Egyptian Islamic Imam Professor Rejects Islam And Says Jesus Is Lord ! by LagosShia: 1:10pm On Aug 14, 2011
@the above mumu,

you are like a recorded tape."islam is terror,Allah command muslims to lie,the Quran is corrupt",and bla bla bla,

if one goes through the threads in the forum,each time you're refuted with one allegation,you repeat the other one.the funny part is you're not able to support your imaginations and lies with evidence.just take a look at post #15 in the below thread of the evidence i brought out to show how contradictory and corrupt the bible is:

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-731810.0.html

so you are not ready to reason.you want to play.if you continue you'd best be ignored.

we know your lies and allegations,but we like islam no matter what.
Re: An Egyptian Islamic Imam Professor Rejects Islam And Says Jesus Is Lord ! by Nobody: 1:16pm On Aug 14, 2011
^^^


Mr , I have no more time to debate with Liars and Truth distorters, I debate with people who look at the facts.

The facts are there for all to see.

Appears nobody even bothers arguing with you guys anymore, its just Lies , Lies and more Lies.

Keep refuting and abrogating and by the way do not forget to keep using the corrupt bible to look for verses that justify Islam in your imagination.
Re: An Egyptian Islamic Imam Professor Rejects Islam And Says Jesus Is Lord ! by LagosShia: 1:29pm On Aug 14, 2011
@the above mumu,

sensing from my words that you'd soon be ignored,you are now trying to take the lead to pretend you dont have time:

LagosShia:

you can eagerly accept the biography of Muhammad (sa) written by any tom,Joystick and harry but you are so blind to reason or even read the Quran and examine it because you believe it was written by a man.you are able to accept the bible of different books written by different men at different times and in different places and full of contradictions and errors,but you reject the Quran.you also make up lies,twist Quranic verses (like the one you like misquoting,changing "Allah plans" to "Allah schemes"wink as christians do best with their bible which they keep editing,all just to attack muslims.

soon you'd be ignored.then you'd talking and discussing with yourself all alone.then you'd finally go wild and mad and start pulling your hair and biting your teeth.trust me!

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-731810.0.html
Re: An Egyptian Islamic Imam Professor Rejects Islam And Says Jesus Is Lord ! by salisuammy(f): 10:11am On Aug 15, 2011
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Re: An Egyptian Islamic Imam Professor Rejects Islam And Says Jesus Is Lord ! by vedaxcool(m): 10:36am On Aug 15, 2011
Abdul-Karim al-Jabbar (Sharmon Shah) - former NBA player[3]
Abdullah Beg of Kartli - Georgian convert to Islam[4] who was a claimant to the kingship of Kartli.
Abel Xavier - former Portuguese professional footballer converted to Islam with his new name Faisal.[5]
Ahmad Faris Shidyaq - a Lebanese scholar, writer and journalist who was a Maronite convert to Islam.[10]
Ahmad Rashād - Emmy award-winning sportscaster (mostly with NBC Sports) and former American football wide receiver.
Anthony Mundine - former Australian rugby league player for the St George Illawarra Dragons and now a boxer
Anthony Small - professional boxer[29]
Sir Archibald Hamilton, 5th Baronet - a distinguished British convert to Islam.
Cat Stevens - famous English musician, officially changed his name to Yusuf Islam
Re: An Egyptian Islamic Imam Professor Rejects Islam And Says Jesus Is Lord ! by LagosShia: 10:43am On Aug 15, 2011
salisuammy:

betathings, if islam ever taught me anything it is to slaughter my christian neighbors, do u know how old i am and how many children i have before someone is calling me a dundee? u claim islam is peace but i say it is the opposite of its name if not wat do u call killing and burning of people even innocent children because u feel they are not muslims? i feel islam should be renamed to 'violence because that is wat i can come out with the imams flogging innocent children in the name of teaching them an occult language(Arabic) to make incantations to the sun. Wat really amazes me is the fact that Hausa muslims still kill other muslims especially the Yoruba. Now i know that the anti Christ will be from the unbelievers (muslims)
you claim to be an "ex-muslim" but your tenses and the way you fixed your sentences rhyme like the way an igbo man speaks.be fooling yourself.

you're so unfortunate because what you described was only witnessed by you.
Re: An Egyptian Islamic Imam Professor Rejects Islam And Says Jesus Is Lord ! by Nobody: 10:47am On Aug 15, 2011
Abdul-Karim al-Jabbar (Sharmon Shah) - former NBA player[3]
Abdullah Beg of Kartli - Georgian convert to Islam[4] who was a claimant to the kingship of Kartli.
Abel Xavier - former Portuguese professional footballer converted to Islam with his new name Faisal.[5]
Ahmad Faris Shidyaq - a Lebanese scholar, writer and journalist who was a Maronite convert to Islam.[10]
Ahmad Rashād - Emmy award-winning sportscaster (mostly with NBC Sports) and former American football wide receiver.
Anthony Mundine - former Australian rugby league player for the St George Illawarra Dragons and now a boxer
Anthony Small - professional boxer[29]
Sir Archibald Hamilton, 5th Baronet - a distinguished British convert to Islam.
Cat Stevens - famous English musician, officially changed his name to Yusuf Islam

ah ha, ALLAH is an ARROGANT god, aye ?

He rejoices when he wins the celebrities of this world.

Listen to what the bible has to say about those who follow GOD.


"Remember, dear brothers and sisters, that few of you were wise in the world's eyes or powerful or wealthy when God called you.nstead, God chose things the world considers foolish in order to shame those who think they are wise. And he chose things that are powerless to shame those who are powerful.God chose things despised by the world, things counted as nothing at all, and used them to bring to nothing what the world considers important." - 1 Corinthians 1:26-28



Keep looking for celebrities , you need celebrities, the bible and even pagan sources to make ISLAM look good.

Shocking !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Re: An Egyptian Islamic Imam Professor Rejects Islam And Says Jesus Is Lord ! by Nobody: 10:49am On Aug 15, 2011
LagosShia:

you claim to be an "ex-muslim" but your tenses and the way you fixed your sentences rhyme like the way an igbo man speaks.be fooling yourself.

you're so unfortunate because what you described was only witnessed by you.


You are about to refute another convert to ISLAM , aye ? lol, grin grin grin

Please do not forget to abrogate earlier statements. !!!!!
Re: An Egyptian Islamic Imam Professor Rejects Islam And Says Jesus Is Lord ! by LagosShia: 11:18am On Aug 15, 2011
frosbel:

ah ha, ALLAH is an ARROGANT god, aye ?

He rejoices when he wins the celebrities of this world.

Listen to what the bible has to say about those who follow GOD.


"Remember, dear brothers and sisters, that few of you were wise in the world's eyes or powerful or wealthy when God called you.nstead, God chose things the world considers foolish in order to shame those who think they are wise. And he chose things that are powerless to shame those who are powerful.God chose things despised by the world, things counted as nothing at all, and used them to bring to nothing what the world considers important." - 1 Corinthians 1:26-28



Keep looking for celebrities , you need celebrities, the bible and even pagan sources to make ISLAM look good.

Shocking !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

need i to remind you that it is only in christianity that we see celebrity pastors with private jets and on tv who use hair relaxer.LOL
Re: An Egyptian Islamic Imam Professor Rejects Islam And Says Jesus Is Lord ! by vedaxcool(m): 11:40am On Aug 15, 2011
salisuammy:

betathings, if islam ever taught me anything it is to slaughter my christian neighbors, do u know how old i am and how many children i have before someone is calling me a dundee? u claim islam is peace but i say it is the opposite of its name if not wat do u call killing and burning of people even innocent children because u feel they are not muslims? i feel islam should be renamed to 'violence because that is wat i can come out with the imams flogging innocent children in the name of teaching them an occult language(Arabic) to make incantations to the sun. Wat really amazes me is the fact that Hausa muslims still kill other muslims especially the Yoruba. Now i know that the anti Christ will be from the unbelievers (muslims)

We know you are a con artist that is why No one takes you seriously, reading the bolded one will know you are amongst the top 20 biggest jesters in nl, thank God, they are millions of Christians who speak, pray and worship in the Occult language (Arabic), don't you see how a joker you are? no Muslim makes incantation to the sun, but hey! you are a Jester extraordinare to be taken seriously

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