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Re: Breaking: Unconfirmed Reports Of An Ongoing Coup In China by joyandfaith: 6:34pm On Sep 24, 2022
DerrickzB:


You are a wasted effort!! I pity your family!!
That is how people with hypoplasia of cerebrum reason.

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Re: Breaking: Unconfirmed Reports Of An Ongoing Coup In China by DerrickzB: 6:36pm On Sep 24, 2022
jimetagambo:

Says Pierocash, World politics expert from Nairaland grin


See olodo

OShey atlas, na you give index!!

Is Germany a second or third world country??

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Re: Breaking: Unconfirmed Reports Of An Ongoing Coup In China by DerrickzB: 6:37pm On Sep 24, 2022
Pierocash:
grin

I wonder how someone can be this ignorant.

He is asking if China is a first world country, lol.

The guy mumu nah grade one

Him mumu pass zelensky own!! Make God help am sha

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Re: Breaking: Unconfirmed Reports Of An Ongoing Coup In China by Quelme: 6:41pm On Sep 24, 2022
saxywale2:
To think maps of 1st, 2nd and 3rd world countries are all over the internet. Omo dullard's full here.
from the coloured map you posted, so Turkiye is a first world country while Russia and China are second world because the US says so abi?

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Re: Breaking: Unconfirmed Reports Of An Ongoing Coup In China by joyandfaith: 6:47pm On Sep 24, 2022
Quelme:
from the coloured map you posted, so Turkiye is a first world country while Russia and China are second world because the US says so abi?

US did not classify countries. You can provide your own source of classification of countries. Even Chinese and Russian scholars know that their countries are not first world countries.
Primary school knowledge.

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Re: Breaking: Unconfirmed Reports Of An Ongoing Coup In China by saxywale2: 6:48pm On Sep 24, 2022
Quelme:
from the coloured map you posted, so Turkiye is a first world country while Russia and China are second world because the US says so abi?
Isn't it obvious there is an error on the map..well that's an error and I admit and I fixed it as well. I don't argue blindly.
So can you help your friends provide proof China is a first world country?

Atleast Show us a proof where Russia and China even made a claim that they are first world countries.

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Re: Breaking: Unconfirmed Reports Of An Ongoing Coup In China by joyandfaith: 6:49pm On Sep 24, 2022
DerrickzB:


OShey atlas, na you give index!!

Is Germany a second or third world country??

What do you think? Provide evidence to proof your point. You should be in primary 2 or 3.
Re: Breaking: Unconfirmed Reports Of An Ongoing Coup In China by saxywale2: 6:49pm On Sep 24, 2022
joyandfaith:


US did not classify countries. You can provide your own source of classification of countries. Even Chinese and Russian scholars know that their countries are not first world countries.
Primary school knowledge.
Exactly. I did not see your post before posting mine.
Re: Breaking: Unconfirmed Reports Of An Ongoing Coup In China by VKN23: 7:47pm On Sep 24, 2022
China is a communist state China is a second world country a simple google search would have shown you why China is a 2nd world country
Re: Breaking: Unconfirmed Reports Of An Ongoing Coup In China by VKN23: 7:48pm On Sep 24, 2022
Pierocash:
You don't pass exams based on Google search. Google is owned by msm controlled by US led NATO. Not every thing in Google is correct.

What made Nato countries first world but China second, because US called them so? Una need mental evaluation.
A country even more advanced than the entire Nato is second , while Scandinavian European countries are first world. Ode
To be a first world country you have to practice democracy does China practice democracyundecided
Re: Breaking: Unconfirmed Reports Of An Ongoing Coup In China by Quelme: 8:10pm On Sep 24, 2022
joyandfaith:


US did not classify countries. You can provide your own source of classification of countries. Even Chinese and Russian scholars know that their countries are not first world countries.
Primary school knowledge.
First country to put man, woman, animal, satellite in space is a second world country?

Australia, Japan, Canada, Croatia and co who haven't dreamt or ever made attempt at any of this are first world country? Hmmm

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Re: Breaking: Unconfirmed Reports Of An Ongoing Coup In China by joyandfaith: 8:16pm On Sep 24, 2022
Quelme:

First country to put man, woman, animal, satellite in space is a second world country?

Australia, Japan, Canada and co who haven't dreamt or ever made attempt at any of this are first world country? Hmmmm

Who you ategorise as being intelligent? A student who had A in Mathematics , B in Chemistry and C in Physics or A student who had As in the three subjects.
Re: Breaking: Unconfirmed Reports Of An Ongoing Coup In China by DikeDiMighty: 8:28pm On Sep 24, 2022
Enugurangers:

I am co-asking as well. It's been crickets since aside the insults. The guy CLAIMED China is a FIRST WORLD country. I expect him to back up his claims with facts, references, links, pictures e.t.c Perhaps their scholar that just arrived can help us.
What are the metrics for differentiating countries into 1st, 2nd and 3rd world?
Re: Breaking: Unconfirmed Reports Of An Ongoing Coup In China by Hanibbal(m): 8:32pm On Sep 24, 2022
VKN23:

To be a first world country you have to practice democracy does China practice democracyundecided

The indices of growth and development are what is used to rate a country. Which are life expectancy level, infant and maternal mortality rate. Advancement in technology., Good Infrastructures ranging from health infrastructures to others that drive economic growth, GDP, GNP etc. Being a democracy or not has nothing to do with that. So many ignorant people on Nairaland. Na wah o.

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Re: Breaking: Unconfirmed Reports Of An Ongoing Coup In China by Whobedatte(m): 8:37pm On Sep 24, 2022
angiography:
These guys @ Jimetagambo et al are asking for one simple thing since the first page and they have been consistent with it- show us an academic prove.

One fo*l said we should know that coz he had a friend in China.

Education in Nigeria is really done and dusted
Hahaha grin
Putards don suffer o grin grin

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Re: Breaking: Unconfirmed Reports Of An Ongoing Coup In China by DerrickzB: 8:53pm On Sep 24, 2022
joyandfaith:


What do you think? Provide evidence to proof your point. You should be in primary 2 or 3.

Answer me na, is Germany a Third or second world nation??
Re: Breaking: Unconfirmed Reports Of An Ongoing Coup In China by Hanibbal(m): 8:58pm On Sep 24, 2022
joyandfaith:


US did not classify countries. You can provide your own source of classification of countries. Even Chinese and Russian scholars know that their countries are not first world countries.
Primary school knowledge.

If you know the indices of growth and development you won't say China and Russia aren't first world. Use those indices to measure both countries and draw your conclusion. That is if you know what Growth and Development is and their indices.

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Re: Breaking: Unconfirmed Reports Of An Ongoing Coup In China by alcuin(m): 10:20pm On Sep 24, 2022
The First World consisted of the U.S., Western Europe and their allies. The Second World was the so-called Communist Bloc: the Soviet Union, China, Cuba and friends. The remaining nations, which aligned with neither group, were assigned to the Third World. The Third World has always had blurred lines


Please, can this end now?
These are not actually economic classifications.

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Re: Breaking: Unconfirmed Reports Of An Ongoing Coup In China by jesmond3945: 11:01pm On Sep 24, 2022
jimetagambo:

Says Pierocash, World politics expert from Nairaland grin


See olodo
na you be mumu, a map crafted by the west to designate the world for their own hegemony. Imagine russia is second world compared to greece. Mtcheew

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Re: Breaking: Unconfirmed Reports Of An Ongoing Coup In China by VKN23: 12:01am On Sep 25, 2022
Hanibbal:


The indices of growth and development are what is used to rate a country. Which are life expectancy level, infant and maternal mortality rate. Advancement in technology., Good Infrastructures ranging from health infrastructures to others that drive economic growth, GDP, GNP etc. Being a democracy or not has nothing to do with that. So many ignorant people on Nairaland. Na wah o.
google second world country
And take what you see there

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Re: Breaking: Unconfirmed Reports Of An Ongoing Coup In China by jimetagambo: 12:41am On Sep 25, 2022
alcuin:
The First World consisted of the U.S., Western Europe and their allies. The Second World was the so-called Communist Bloc: the Soviet Union, China, Cuba and friends. The remaining nations, which aligned with neither group, were assigned to the Third World. The Third World has always had blurred lines


Please, can this end now?
These are not actually economic classifications.
Thank you jare. Don't mind the olodos.
Re: Breaking: Unconfirmed Reports Of An Ongoing Coup In China by Appleyard(m): 1:20am On Sep 25, 2022
Enugurangers:

I need a proof as well sir. They are calling you a prof.

I'm not a Prof but certainly not a dummy like those guys here.

You don't expect me to prove their case for them. They said China isn't a first world country (for goodness sake, no one even used that term again) and I replied by saying they're wrong because the ratings of countries like China, Russia, and co as 2nd World countries while the west that does the rating are called 1st world countries is PURELY down to ideological and geopolitical differences during the the cold war.

For example, West Germany was classified as 1st word while East Germany was classified as 2nd world. Why? Because the western part was ruled by the West (the US and its allies) while the Eastern part was ruled by the East (the Soviet Union and its Warsaw Pact allies). Hence, the classification was purely ideological because the the West and East were the same before the Berlin Wall was built.

Today, the story is still the same although it has improved compared to previous times.
The United Nations and other world renown agencies are no longer using 1st world, 2nd world and 3rd world ratings (you can only find the last one on textbooks or newspapers publications when referencing African and MiddleEastern countries). The new terminology now is "Developed and Developing nations". So, these people still basing their ratings on the old scale of 1st, 2nd and 3rd is wrong ab initio.

Now, when it comes to the United Nations Human Development Index used in ranking and classifying nations as developed, these guys forget that the HDI also has many challenges because some of its indices used in gauging such ratings are seriously flawed and at variance with some other bodies because they do not take somethings like population difference into consideration.

For instance, the full HDI 2020 list, starts on a count of 0.1 to .80. Any score .80 or higher is developed, and anything lower is developing.

In arriving at this list, the HDI is quantified by looking at a country's human development, such as education, health, and life expectancy.
Surprisingly, Turkey is on that list as developed, Honk Kong is there too, Montenegro and Kazhastan too, but China is not. Yet, when you compared some of the indices between China and Montenegro here: https://www.worlddata.info/country-comparison.php?country1=CHN&country2=MNE, you would agreed that China should be up there as well, not to mention the huge size difference in population and achievement in sectors like industrialization and technology that were ignored by the HDI.


Now, what about Honk kong, which is under Chinese rule as at present? Except people want to sell a stone that Turkey is more "democratic" and politically stable than China.

Should there really be the same HDI comparison between Qatar, Malta to China giving the sheer differences in the socio- economic and political culture/reality and geographical spread?

For example, San Marino, Saudi Arabia and Slovenia and Mauritius are ranked as developed nations because they score a rating of 0.8 or higher based on the HDI indices stated earlier. But the reality is that, these countries are not even up to some villages or one town in China in terms of population. What this mean is that supposing a city like Beijing which has 21 million people has excellent healthcare and top-notch human services, that qualifies it as developed region, it still would be termed not developed simply because some few areas in China lacked similar quality in the aforementioned indices. Meanwhile, San Marino which has a population of less than 34,000 people would be termed developed simply because the aforementioned HDI indices were easily spread across the nation which is not even up to size of my village.

If that is not flawed, then I wonder what is.

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Re: Breaking: Unconfirmed Reports Of An Ongoing Coup In China by Appleyard(m): 1:29am On Sep 25, 2022
VKN23:

To be a first world country you have to practice democracy does China practice democracyundecided
Another seriously flawed logic.

If democracy is the criteria for rating a country as developed (since all the agencies and organizations doing the ratings no longer uses 1st, 2nd or 3rd countries), then how would you rate Saudi Arabia, a monarchy which the UN HDI rated as a developed nation?. undecided

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Re: Breaking: Unconfirmed Reports Of An Ongoing Coup In China by Appleyard(m): 2:07am On Sep 25, 2022
joyandfaith:


US did not classify countries. You can provide your own source of classification of countries. Even Chinese and Russian scholars know that their countries are not first world countries.
Primary school knowledge.

You seem to have so much joyandfaith in parotting igonarance. cool

The US do classify nations as developed or developing. Checkout the CIA World Factbook.

There are no first world, second world or third world nations any more. Those terms are gone now even though some people still use them loosely.

"https://www.history.com/news/why-are-countries-classified-as-first-second-or-third-world "

And those ( like some of you here) who wants to use them as a ranking scheme were described as "perfect nonesense" by this academic website:

"http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/10/150.html"

The proper term now is Developed or Developing nations. These are the terms the UN HDI is currently using to rank developed or developing nations of the world. And contrary to what you want to believe, Russia is rated as developed nation by the UN HDI. cool

Stop embarrassing yourself.

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Re: Breaking: Unconfirmed Reports Of An Ongoing Coup In China by Enugurangers: 2:16am On Sep 25, 2022
Appleyard:


I'm not a Prof but certainly not a dummy like those guys here.

You don't expect me to prove their case for them. They said China isn't a first world country (for goodness sake, no one even used that term again) .
Comprehension? Your Minion used the term 1st world. He claimed China was a first world country. We told him to bring proof, zilch

We told you to bring proof too since you support him. Nada, zero, not.
Re: Breaking: Unconfirmed Reports Of An Ongoing Coup In China by Enugurangers: 2:18am On Sep 25, 2022
Appleyard:


You seem to have so much joyandfaith in parotting igonarance. cool

The US do classify nations as developed or developing. Checkout the CIA World Factbook.

There are no first world, second world or third world nations any more. Those terms are gone now even though some people still use them loosely.

"https://www.history.com/news/why-are-countries-classified-as-first-second-or-third-world "

And those ( like some of you here) who wants to use them as a ranking scheme were described as "perfect nonesense" by this academic website:

"http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/10/150.html"

The proper term now is Developed or Developing nations. These are the terms the UN HDI is currently using to rank developed or developing nations of the world. And contrary to what you want to believe, Russia is rated as developed nation by the UN HDI. cool

Stop embarrassing yourself.


See as you have brought links here. You even added a screenshot, so you are not dull afterall. I was beginning to think you were.

Now do the same (links, screenshots e.t.c) to support the claim of your Minion that China is a first world country. We will be waiting.

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Re: Breaking: Unconfirmed Reports Of An Ongoing Coup In China by Enugurangers: 2:30am On Sep 25, 2022
Goodvibes007:
I have been observing the thread and hoping to see a proof of the claim as well but nothing so far.
They have nothing. That is the reason why they keep running around in circles like headless chickens. One was even talking some nonsense about how Columbus discovered America.

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Re: Breaking: Unconfirmed Reports Of An Ongoing Coup In China by opamoses1: 2:52am On Sep 25, 2022
Appleyard:


I'm not a Prof but certainly not a dummy.

For example, West Germany was classified as 1st word while East Germany was classified as 2nd world. Why? Because the western part was ruled by the West (the US and its allies) while the Eastern part was ruled by the East (the Soviet Union and its Warsaw Pact allies). Hence, the classification was purely ideological because the the West and East were the same before the Berlin Wall was built.
East and West Germany were same before but not the same after the 2nd world war.

After the war,
East Germany = Oppressive
West Germany= Affluent

It's common knowledge that people were risking limbs and lives to cross from East to West just like North Koreans often try to cross to South Korea. There was an order to shoot East Germans that try to cross to the West.
Re: Breaking: Unconfirmed Reports Of An Ongoing Coup In China by Appleyard(m): 2:59am On Sep 25, 2022
opamoses1:

East and West Germany were same before but not the same after the 2nd world war.

After the war,
East Germany = Oppressive
West Germany= Affluent

It's common knowledge that people were risking limbs and lives to cross from East to West just like North Koreans often try to cross to South Korea. There was an order to shoot East Germans that try to cross to the West.

The point is the ideological difference which led to the classification of 1st and 2nd and 3rd world countries, terms that no one uses any more.
Re: Breaking: Unconfirmed Reports Of An Ongoing Coup In China by opamoses1: 3:03am On Sep 25, 2022
Appleyard:


The point is the ideological difference which led to the classification of 1st and 2nd and 3rd world countries, terms that no one uses any more.
- If you knew this, then why were you rooting for someone that says China is a "1st world country" ?
- Instead of correcting him/them that "according to ideological differences", China is/was a 2nd world country.

I am just curious.

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Re: Breaking: Unconfirmed Reports Of An Ongoing Coup In China by dnawah(m): 8:43am On Sep 25, 2022
joyandfaith:


Who you ategorise as being intelligent? A student who had A in Mathematics , B in Chemistry and C in Physics or A student who had As in the three subjects.
the 1st student may really know what he or she wrote but the 2rd may cram and write.so don't judge.

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Re: Breaking: Unconfirmed Reports Of An Ongoing Coup In China by BentizilL: 8:58am On Sep 25, 2022
joyandfaith:


See this one. Kai. Russia and Ukraine are second world countries. Read book mr man. Youtube is not good for you.
Not arguing that anymore.
It's a cold war era term used for the eastern bloc..
Any other meaning apart from that is rubbish and no one will buy it.. kiss

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