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|Are There More People In The North Than In The South? by Jogs1900: 10:07pm On Sep 28, 2022
By Femi Aribisala
In 2011, more votes were cast in Zamfara than the total number of legitimately-registered voters, according to the revelation of INEC’s clean-up exercise.
Everything turns upside down in Nigeria. Logic becomes illogical. Wisdom becomes foolishness. Two plus two becomes seven. Hospitals become mortuaries. Stealing is not corruption. Education is a sin. In Nigeria, so many things fly in the face of simple commonsense.
One major example is the ridiculous idea that, by some inexplicable freak of nature, more people live in the arid less-developed Northern part of Nigeria than in the wet, coastal, more-developed South.
Insult to intelligence
The larger population of the North is an elephant in the Nigerian living-room. According to the last disputed census of 2006, there are 75 million Nigerians living in the North and 65 million in the South. This is balderdash! As long as we continue to accept such blatant lie, there can be no true democracy in Nigeria. Electoral results must continue to be falsified to conform to it. As long as we continue to entertain such outright falsehood, we shall continue to be subjected to a “born to rule” mentality on the part of some mischievous Northern politicians.
The assertion that there are more people in the North than in the South is an insult to intelligence and commonsense. All over West Africa, the coastal states are more densely and highly populated than the arid desert hinterlands. Nobody has been able to come up with a reasonable reason why Nigeria would be the only exception to this rule. Most of the people in Egypt live on a strip along the Nile River. But in Nigeria, we are meant to believe most of the people live in the desert.
Some make the case that Northern polygamy leads to more births. If so, why are there only 30 million people in Saudi Arabia, a country more than twice the size of Nigeria? The Saudis are also polygamous. If there are so many more live-births in the North than in the South, this should be reflected in children immunization programs: but it is not.
Everything we know about demographics contradicts the inflated population of the North relative to the South. The economic opportunities in the South far outweigh those in the North. That means economic migration is bound to be southward and not northward. The states with the highest internally generated revenues all come from the South; while eight of the last ten are from the North. No Northern state features in the top ten.
The North regularly trots up Kano as the largest state of the federation, but there is no doubt that this is also pure fiction. There is no way that there can be more people in Kano State than in Lagos State or even Oyo State. Let me be even more categorical. Kano cannot be as populous as Ibadan. Kano cannot even have half the population of Lagos.
Why would more people keep moving to Kano where there is insurgency; from Maitasine to Boko Haram, relative to Lagos where there is none? The answer is simple. The large population of Kano relative to Lagos is bogus. It is pure fiction! If there were more people in Kano than in Lagos, it would show up, for example, in waste-generation. How much waste does Kano produce relative to Lagos? The answer is only a fraction.
How many houses and physical structures are there in Kano relative to Lagos? There is no comparison. Google satellite maps show a concentration of people and houses in Kano city centre. Everywhere else is sparsely populated. This is not the case with Lagos. It is not the case with Ibadan. It is not the case with Aba. If there are so many people up North, where are the people? Where do they live? Which vehicles take them from A to B? How many of these vehicles are in Kano relative to Lagos? Only a fraction!
Precisely because we have accepted the lie of Northern population supremacy over the South, Attahiru Jega and his INEC cohorts decided to sneak further falsehood past us. Having discovered far more double-registration of voters in the North than in the South, INEC still went ahead to create additional polling units, allocating a disproportionate number of these to the North. However, the very audacity of INEC in the attempted perpetration of this fraud has brought to light certain anomalies in the 2011 elections, especially as it relates to the North-West.
INEC’s recent cleanup exercise of the voters register is a big indictment of the North. INEC discovered that there are far more double-registration of voters in the North than in the South. The greatest fraud in this regard is committed in the North-West, and the most fraudulent state in the country turns out to be Zamfara.
Sokoto and Zamfara states border the Republic of Niger. Niger Republic is 19 times bigger than Sokoto and Zamfara put together in land area. And yet, we are meant to believe that in 2006, Sokoto and Zamfara had a combined total population of 6.9 million; more than half of Niger Republic’s population of 12.9 million.
Zamfara’s fictitious population in the 2006 census was 3.2 million. Nevertheless, INEC registered 2 million voters for Zamfara for the 2011 elections. That means 62.5% of the people in Zamfara registered to vote. (This is roughly equal to the 64% of people who registered to vote in the 2012 elections in the United States; a country of far higher voter-awareness and socialisation). This is fraud of the highest order for the simple reason that 62.5% of the population of Zamfara cannot be eligible to vote.
The voting age in Nigeria is 18 years. According to U.N. demographics, 44% of Nigerians are below the age of 15. This means under no circumstances can 50% of the population anywhere in Nigeria be said to have registered to vote in any election. It is not surprising therefore that although INEC registered 2 million voters for the 2011 elections in Zamfara, the same INEC discovered in its clean-up exercise this year that 1.1 million of those voters (over 50%) were fraudulent; the result of double registration.
That means only 914,886 of the names on the Zamfara register could be verified as not pertaining to double registration. (This does not tell us how many of the remaining names are fictitious). But then get this: according to INEC records, 927,219 people voted in Zamfara in the 2011 presidential election; mostly for Buhari. That means more votes were cast in Zamfara than the total number of legitimately-registered voters, according to the revelation of INEC’s clean-up exercise.
Let us put this in stark terms. It means, according to INEC, over 100% of the Zamfara electorate voted in 2011. What malarkey! By the time we factor in the fictitious names that must have been in the register, we can see that the figures coming out of Zamfara have nothing whatsoever to do with reality. In Zamfara, there is procedural inflation of figures pertaining to population and elections.
This gives us an idea of how fraudulent the North-West of Nigeria is with regard to population and electoral figures. This is not to say that manipulation and falsification of figures is not standard operational procedure in other states of the federation, but INEC revealed that it is most exaggerated in the North in general and in the North-West in particular.
It is not surprising therefore that, in the 2011 presidential election, there were 10.6 million “voters” from the North-West alone; twice the number of voters from either the South-West (4.6 million) or the South-East (5 million). This is preposterous, and is nothing but one big lie!
Back to Jega
It is on this fictitious super-structure of a larger population in the North relative to the South that Jega’s INEC based its outrageous allocation of 21,000 additional polling booths to the North, relative to 8,000 to the South.
In defense of this regional-chauvinism, Hakeem Baba-Ahmad added insult to injury by saying: “Jega admitted that many states in the south did not even deserve the number of units they got, but for the inclusion of the principle of fairness and equity. In other words, if INEC had been strict in sharing out the units in accordance with voting population and geography, the north would have received even more.” What poppycock!
In what appears to be the triumph of commonsense and logic, the Senate has advised Jega to suspend the allocation of new polling units until after the 2015 general elections. That should be the end of the matter. People who don’t understand how the Nigerian political system works feel Jega can ignore this advice. He cannot! The legislative branch of the government has oversight powers over the executive branch. Such a directive from the legislature to an arm of the government is not subject to debate. It must be obeyed otherwise Jega will be sanctioned.
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|Re: Are There More People In The North Than In The South? by VeeVeeMyLuv(m): 10:16pm On Sep 28, 2022
It is more bcoz it includes citizens of nearly 50% of Chad & Niger Republic
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|Re: Are There More People In The North Than In The South? by Felimax(m): 10:23pm On Sep 28, 2022
That is the dynamism lots of you don't understand. During election and census a lot of the Northern people travel back to their various places where they exercise their franchise and over time we have seen that this has a lot to do with the results eventually.
Down here in the South a lot of us has this epileptic or dillusional way seeing things. A lot of us will not leave our businesses and other interest because of election or census.
Why do you think Northerners will hardly buy lands build and invest heavily in the South like Southerners do in the north?
Check around you, the population level of Northerners around us and other strangers are the reason why we feel we are ahead of them but sincerely when the period for these exercises comes the North don't joke with it.
In terms of landmark the North is almost more than x4 of the South. Though till now some ignorant people still dispute it.
A lot of us don't travel so we believe that in the North there no people. Big lie!
When i was in Lagos i use to think the whole Nigeria is finished in Lagos but getting to Rivers, Benue, Niger and the rest population na blast.
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|Re: Are There More People In The North Than In The South? by Jogs1900: 10:42pm On Sep 28, 2022
VeeVeeMyLuv:Do you think Kano state is more populated than Lagos state?What's the rationale behind Kano having 44 local governments with 27 local governments in Jigawa state while Lagos has 20 local governments.
|Re: Are There More People In The North Than In The South? by nakaman: 10:47pm On Sep 28, 2022
Small small truth go dey come out,
When Obasanjo said "the money Atiku stole under his administration in 2006 could feed 300 million Nigerians for 400 year" he was referring to the money Atiku collected for the census.
And they robbed us with the figures and moved everything to the north.
|Re: Are There More People In The North Than In The South? by Jogs1900: 10:48pm On Sep 28, 2022
Felimax:But in all other indices to determine our population like no of registered lines, satellite image of settlements,number of vehicles,bank accounts,bvn,igr etc,the south is ahead of the north.
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|Re: Are There More People In The North Than In The South? by nakaman: 10:48pm On Sep 28, 2022
The only truth which cannot be denied is that the north have more land than the south
But if na population, 4get it. Every land in the south is occupied by real people unlike the north who 1 live 4 desert. The settlement is sparse and scattered. Them no plenty sef
The igbo should be considered the largest,
In the 36 states +abj the igbos make at least 10% of the total population of their host state unlike the northerners and westerners who dwell mostly in their homeland
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|Re: Are There More People In The North Than In The South? by VeeVeeMyLuv(m): 10:50pm On Sep 28, 2022
Jogs1900:No it can never be
No where on planet Earth are inland areas, uplands more populated than coastal areas. The rationale behind these figures is nothing but a political one.
|Re: Are There More People In The North Than In The South? by Apexmoh: 10:53pm On Sep 28, 2022
Comparing the population of the north & that of the south, is like comparing a sea & an ocean. You better get your facts right you dull. It baffles me to see the rate at which our youth are on drugs and the worse part of it is that this op is amongst them. You just wake-up from your madness and post this rubbish. Your p@rents must have woefully failed in your upbringing. Animals are better than you southerners. Illiterate fool, it won't even surprise us to find out that his mother is a pr0stitute and that's why he's bittered, because northerner don't have prostitutes. If you like also say south has more land mass than north. Illiterate Femi Aribisala
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|Re: Are There More People In The North Than In The South? by Felimax(m): 10:57pm On Sep 28, 2022
Yessss but it is never the same when it gets to election and census. You see those two things + BBC Hausa the North don't joke with it both Northern Muslims and Christians alike. Even their Reverend Fathers and religious workers in the South will travel back when that time comes. In terms of Birth rate the North and South nor be mate. See, a whole lot of indices to consider. Only North Central alone is bigger than the whole south.
|Re: Are There More People In The North Than In The South? by Jogs1900: 11:00pm On Sep 28, 2022
VeeVeeMyLuv:That's it..I don't know how the south allowed the north to use fake population to be intimidating southerners.I doubt if they will allow the BVA machine work in the north in 2023 since it's going to expose them.
|Re: Are There More People In The North Than In The South? by Kingspin(m): 11:03pm On Sep 28, 2022
Kano is more populated than Lagos.
There is no population census in Nigeria
This is the biggest corruption in Nigeria.
|Re: Are There More People In The North Than In The South? by Jogs1900: 11:08pm On Sep 28, 2022
Felimax:That's true but looking at the census figure in 1991 before the creation of Jigawa state from Kano state,Kano state was just over 100k more than Lagos.After that ,they went ahead to allocate 44 LGA to Kano alone after Jigawa was created with 27 LGA.After that in 2006 again,Kano state alone is still more than Lagos that wasn't divided while Jigawa has 4m+ populace.Does it mean there in no population growth in Lagos?
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|Re: Are There More People In The North Than In The South? by Jogs1900: 11:12pm On Sep 28, 2022
Kingspin:That's what they've always been using to brag to rig the south out every time.I don't know why the southern leaders allowed this.Its sad.Our southern political leaders are just selfish.They only think of what will benefit them individually while the northern leaders think of what will benefit their people.I think this false figures being declared every census will be difficult to correct.
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|Re: Are There More People In The North Than In The South? by Felimax(m): 11:15pm On Sep 28, 2022
I was a census officer in 2006 and i am telling you my experience from the street. Few persons who are strangers in my jurisdiction who were unable to travel refused to be counted. Bulk of these persons where southerners. Be factual, in your view take the strangers away from Lagos do you think Lagos will be so populated? Don't forget Lagos is the smallest state in Nigeria.
Right from Bible times people often travel to their place of origin just to be counted and have advantage over other people but down South the Igbo man will not leave the North to South just to be counted because he may return and everything will not be the same again. Down South the Northern man will travel and still come back to his Hausa quater and you may really not find anything to loot in their absential. Simple logic we cannot change.
|Re: Are There More People In The North Than In The South? by Jogs1900: 11:24pm On Sep 28, 2022
Felimax:Lagos happens to be the smallest in Nigeria but I don't think landmass should be used to determine human population.Moreover what attracts human population to a particular geographical area like security and economic activities, standard of living etc are all in the south.I still feel the south is being cheated in the allocation of resources by the federal government.
|Re: Are There More People In The North Than In The South? by Felimax(m): 11:29pm On Sep 28, 2022
Don't forget that after the federal government census exercise Lagos did their own and arrive at a very bogus result which the federal govt reject and refuse to work with because as at when the official one was going on a lot of strangers has moved to their various places of origin.
Declare census today and you will see and believe what i am telling you. The North don't joke with census and election. In virtually every nooks and crannies of this nation you have Northerners. They have the population.
|Re: Are There More People In The North Than In The South? by Jogs1900: 11:36pm On Sep 28, 2022
Felimax:Till the next census exercise then.I really wish biometrics can be taken for the next exercise in order to get our actual population figure.Before then, I hope they will allow BVA machine to work next year to avoid rigging to have the idea of our real voting population.
|Re: Are There More People In The North Than In The South? by 2elliot: 11:38pm On Sep 28, 2022
Felimax:On Monday in my place in Bayelsa state, several okada guys were arrested who were Nigeriens, because one of them killed an Hausa guy. I was shocked to know that these huge number of okada riders were not Nigerians but rather foreigners. I had thought that they were all northerners. So, where is the northern population if these large number of foreigners who impersonate the northerners are residing in this country. And they Ae being used to rig elections. Why aren't the huge numbers attributed to the numbers not do the rigging magic for them?
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|Re: Are There More People In The North Than In The South? by Jogs1900: 11:40pm On Sep 28, 2022
nakaman:Is there a way we can get our actual population for future planning?
|Re: Are There More People In The North Than In The South? by Felimax(m): 11:50pm On Sep 28, 2022
Anyway, that is the reality before our very own eyes and there is hardly anything tangible you and i can do about it. Up North they recognize and accept anybody as their own the moment you can identify with them in language, culture and even religion it is worst when they know you are of the same tribe with them even if you are from a neighbouring country. It is just their lifestyle.
Again, a lot of them inter marry from other neighbouring countries that shares the same values with them and this often helps in driving the influx of foreigners into the country. So many indices and logics you have to look into if you must do something about it. We down south apart from cameroun and i think Togo don't really have that leverage and even if you observe from the Togo axis you will see a similar phenomenon but to the Yoruba tribe.
|Re: Are There More People In The North Than In The South? by BeardedMeat(m): 11:53pm On Sep 28, 2022
Felimax:What's the population of Abokii in warri that when they go back to be registered or counted in their states could account for such exponential figures?
What they have is landmass and this is not the same thing as population.
Abokiis are leaving their states in droves everyday going down south south for obvious reasons, how can it be when votes are cast, abandoned borno villages records 90% voting exercises?
|Re: Are There More People In The North Than In The South? by SmartPolician: 11:56pm On Sep 28, 2022
When will Nigeria have a national database and social security number so we can end this debate once and for all?
I don't even understand why we still have census in 2022 when you can introduce social security number or NIN to count every soul that genuinely comes from this country.
|Re: Are There More People In The North Than In The South? by BeardedMeat(m): 11:57pm On Sep 28, 2022
Felimax:But the Op above, through the data provided by Inec just floored this your line of argument as weak.
Are they who have been running from place to place in the last ten years still religiously dashing back home to vote?
|Re: Are There More People In The North Than In The South? by Jogs1900: 12:00am On Sep 29, 2022
SmartPolician:Abi oo..it's disgusting and shameful.. Nigeria as a country can't move forward without a national database.I believe our political leaders know what to do if they want it done.
|Re: Are There More People In The North Than In The South? by BeardedMeat(m): 12:00am On Sep 29, 2022
Jogs1900:BVA will never work as long as the status quo remains.
|Re: Are There More People In The North Than In The South? by Felimax(m): 12:01am On Sep 29, 2022
What is so difficult for you to understand? How many Aboki you don see for queue during election for Warri? O you think they don't vote. Ok! be thinking!
Besides, where and where do you think Aboki resides in Warri. As far as to my village Abokis are there. There are places you will start traveling to in this country if you meet one Delta or Edo persons you go celebrate. Let me surprise you, you can travel from Lagos to Gboko in Benue and some of the few resturants you will see are mostly runned by the Yorubas. Down here we don't travel like the Northerners do that is why we always feel there are no people in the North.
Just the facts!
|Re: Are There More People In The North Than In The South? by Innocentman86: 12:03am On Sep 29, 2022
Apexmoh:Thank you northerner,I don't know why we the bayerebes pretend alot.
We hate8 these northerners with passion and we can't wait for tinyubu to win so we the bayerebes will deal mercilesslyy with the northerners.
Abokill will the bayerebes are only pretending,we don't like you people.
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|Re: Are There More People In The North Than In The South? by Jogs1900: 12:05am On Sep 29, 2022
BeardedMeat:Waoh...that's a waste of resources procuring what they know won't be used.Its unfortunate.2023 election will be rigged again.
|Re: Are There More People In The North Than In The South? by BeardedMeat(m): 12:14am On Sep 29, 2022
Felimax:Their migration during election and census still does not account for the bogus population and voting figures coming out from an otherwise educational disadvantaged zone, where incidence of voided votes are prevalent.
The underage and registration of Nigeriens who don't leave in Nigeria all add to the bogus figures.
A lot shii needs to be corrected if this country is to truly progress.
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|Re: Are There More People In The North Than In The South? by BeardedMeat(m): 12:16am On Sep 29, 2022
Jogs1900:It is what it is. Southern leaders will never rock the boat because of hand outs they get.
|Re: Are There More People In The North Than In The South? by Ttalk: 1:15am On Sep 29, 2022
Anyone that says Kano is more populated than Lagos should go and check his or her brain
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