How Did God Create Light Before The Sun?

The answer to the above question I had received via a divine revelation from God, and had already shared it here a couple of years back with another moniker. It was a blessing to some here at the time, however I have come to realize that this yet remained a puzzle not just to atheists but also many Christians, hence felt the need to share it once again so it could bless even more souls.

Without further ado, let's go back to the Biblical account of creation where the question emanated to get the answer on how God created light before the sun.

Genesis 1:2-3

And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

Now, it's important to take note of the precedent before the light came into existence because that's where many miss it, and once that happens, it's hard to get it right anywhere else.

I've also heard some attributing the light that was at this point to the glory of God's presence, but the above instance rules that idea out, because if God Himself was the light, there wouldn't have been darkness so God wouldn't have needed to command light to be before there was light.

Moreover God was said to have seen the appearance of light that He had brought into existence on Earth as a good development.

Genesis 1:4-5
And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

From the above passage it could be observed that it was only after God had divided the light He created from the darkness before anything such as day and night came into existence, and that those were the respective names God gave to the light and darkness after He'd divided them.

It also showed that the division was time based, in other words the light and darkness were divided to occur at different intervals, which set the stage for the first ever evening and morning and consequently the first full day on Earth

God bless.

So from the first ever day on Earth, we proceed to the day the sun was made which was said to be the fourth day.

Genesis 1:14-15
And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

The above instance was basically why I advised for the precedent of the first day before light was, to be noted, because God said a similar thing here as He did on that occasion, and it again happened as He had said which could make it to be really confusing and difficult to reconcile. Hence the need to note the precedent because that's what distinguishes between the two instances, as then the precedent was absolute darkness, but in this case a new precedent had been set, which is that "there was light".

Also while at first, it was "let there be light", in this instance it was "let there be lights" to show that while the "light" at the beginning was called into existence out of nothing, "lights" in this instance was called forth out of something... It was out of that light that God already created in the first day out of nothing, that God called forth the lights that He made on the fourth day, for that light of the day 1 was the source of all the other lights that God made on day 4.

Moreover the lights which God made on this occasion were specially designed according to the respective purposes they would serve, making it possible for there to be a variety of lighting patterns, forms and sizes to enable for the marking and distinguishing of seasons, years, leap years and so on.

Remember prior to this development, it was just straightforward night (full darkness) and day (full light), every day with no real difference, but the different kinds of lights brought about many possibilities such as that of a day being brighter than another, a night being darker than another, and that of a longer day and shorter night and vice versa etc.[/color]

Genesis 1:16-19
And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

So this was where the sun came into the picture. It was the greater light that God made to rule over the day, while the moon which was the lesser light was made to rule over the night, therefore the night was no longer total darkness for it now had its own light.

And God also made the other lights called the stars which we see at night also.

God bless.

There's also the argument of the moon not being a light as it was called in the above passage, but only a reflection of light, but i assume the argument is based on the inability to comprehend what it meant to be a lesser light than the sun. Perhaps the moon should be removed from the sky first, for it to be understood how the moon itself is a light.

A lesser light could mean the reflection of a greater light, just as Jesus was the greater light of the world, while His disciples who were a reflection of His light, were also said to be light of the world.

For there to be the possibility of having a light that would suit the idea of providing light for the night and still retaining the darkness, it had to be the reflection of a greater light. And that was exactly what God made the moon to be in the beginning.

I think these answers should suffice for those asking such questions concerning the biblical account of the light(s) that God made in the beginning.

God bless.

It's also important to note that some of this knowledge about creation were deliberately hidden by God from men, so that He would later reveal them through His servants.

Even Moses who revealed this particular event wasn't there in the beginning when it happened. it was God who was there and was the Creator that revealed it to him.

Matthew 13:35 (KJV)

That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying, I will open my mouth in parables; I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world.

Luke 8:10 (KJV)

And he said, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables; that seeing they might not see, and hearing they might not understand.

Luke 10:21 (KJV)

In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight.

It is for this reason that many intellectuals and learned ones were yet confounded by these things.

It takes God to reveal these mysteries to men.

God bless.

For those who still do not believe that God created light before the sun, because they only know the sun as the Earth's primary source of light, they shouldn't expect that the One who was there in the beginning, who made all things, including the sun, would also be affected by the limitations of their knowledge.

God bless.

Sixfiguresmart:
The sun is not the only light in this universe. The sun is the light in OUR galaxy. There are billions of galaxies out there. You gotta understand that the sun is like a pin in comparison to other stars. The sun is not even the brightest star.

The light in question is different. There is light that comes from God. That light is God.
1 John 1:5 God is light

If that light was God as you claim, the earth wouldn't have been yet dark for God to call light into existence before there was light.

Moreover where did the other lights God also called including the sun come from?

You're taking the saying of John out of context. John wasn't talking about the light that God called into existence in the beginning but the Light which God is so doesn't need to call forth.

The light was called forth from nothing, and it was from that light that other lights as the sun emerged. The light God created out of nothing was the raw material that God used to make other lights, just as crude oil is refined to get LPG, PMS, DPK etc.

The sun is not the only light in this universe. The sun is the light in OUR galaxy. There are billions of galaxies out there. You gotta understand that the sun is like a pin in comparison to other stars. The sun is not even the brightest star.

The light in question is different. There is light that comes from God. That light is God.
1 John 1:5 God is light

Sixfiguresmart:
The sun is not the only light in this universe. The sun is the light in OUR galaxy. There are billions of galaxies out there. You gotta understand that the sun is like a pin in comparison to other stars. The sun is not even the brightest star.

The light in question is different. There is light that comes from God. That light is God.
1 John 1:5 God is light

Leave am make him dey cap nonsense. I wonder how people just sit down and try to make up excuses become they can now see that scientific facts makes the Bible seem like it was written by a 12 year old. I don't doubt the existence of God, but I agree that your explanation seems the most plausible, because God is light. Any other light asides Him, is the sun. And without the sun and all the other stars, the universe will be in pitch blackness. Our sun is our ONLY source of light in our solar system. All this jargons is just to confuse people who don't know what to believe in.

jesusjnr2020:
How Did God Create Light Before The Sun?

The answer to the above question I had received via a divine revelation from God, and had already shared it here a couple of years back with another moniker. It was a blessing to some here at the time, however I have come to realize that this yet remained a puzzle not just to atheists but also many Christians, hence felt the need to share it once again so it could bless even more souls.

Without further ado, let's go back to the Biblical account of creation where the question emanated to get the answer on how God created light before the sun.

Genesis 1:2-3

And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

Now, it's important to take note of the precedent before the light came into existence because that's where many miss it, and once that happens, it's hard to get it right anywhere else.

I've also heard some attributing the light that was at this point to the glory of God's presence, but the above instance rules that idea out, because if God Himself was the light, there wouldn't have been darkness so God wouldn't have needed to command light to be before there was light.

Moreover God was said to have seen the appearance of light that He had brought into existence on Earth as a good development.

Genesis 1:4-5
And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

From the above passage it could be observed that it was only after God had divided the light He created from the darkness before anything such as day and night came into existence, and that those were the respective names God gave to the light and darkness after He'd divided them.

It also showed that the division was time based, in other words the light and darkness were divided to occur at different intervals, which set the stage for the first ever evening and morning and consequently the first full day on Earth

God bless.

jesusjnr2020:
So from the first ever day on Earth, we proceed to the day the sun was made which was said to be the fourth day.

Genesis 1:14-15
And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

The above instance was basically why I advised for the precedent of the first day before light was, to be noted, because God said a similar thing here as He did on that occasion, and it again happened as He had said which could make it to be really confusing and difficult to reconcile. Hence the need to note the precedent because that's what distinguishes between the two instances, as then the precedent was absolute darkness, but in this case a new precedent had been set, which is that "there was light".

Also while at first, it was "let there be light", in this instance it was "let there be lights" to show that while the "light" at the beginning was called into existence out of nothing, "lights" in this instance was called forth out of something... It was out of that light that God already created in the first day out of nothing, that God called forth the lights that He made on the fourth day, for that light of the day 1 was the source of all the other lights that God made on day 4.

Moreover the lights which God made on this occasion were specially designed according to the respective purposes they would serve, making it possible for there to be a variety of lighting patterns, forms and sizes to enable for the marking and distinguishing of seasons, years, leap years and so on.

Remember prior to this development, it was just straightforward night (full darkness) and day (full light), every day with no real difference, but the different kinds of lights brought about many possibilities such as that of a day being brighter than another, a night being darker than another, and that of a longer day and shorter night and vice versa etc.[/color]

Genesis 1:16-19
And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

So this was where the sun came into the picture. It was the greater light that God made to rule over the day, while the moon which was the lesser light was made to rule over the night, therefore the night was no longer total darkness for it now had its own light.

And God also made the other lights called the stars which we see at night also.

God bless.

Genesis 1:5
'1In the beginning God (i.e. Elohim) created [by forming from nothing] the heavens and the earth.
2The earth was formless and void or a waste and emptiness,
and darkness was upon the face of the deep
[primeval ocean that covered the unformed earth].
The Spirit of God was moving (hovering, brooding) over the face of the waters.
3And God said,“Let there be light”; and there was light.
4God saw that the light was good (pleasing, useful) and He affirmed and sustained it;
and God separated the light [distinguishing it] from the darkness.
5And God called the light day, and the darkness He called night.
And there was evening and there was morning, one day.'

1 John 1:5
'And this is the message we have heard from Him and announce to you:
God is light, and in Him there is no darkness at all.'

Romans 4:17
'That is what the Scriptures mean when God told him,
“I have made you the father of many nations.”
This happened because Abraham believed in the God
who brings the dead back to life and who creates new things out of nothing.'

There's no point to belabour, something that's easy, simple and straightforward.

Darkness, simply is, the absence of light, meaning darkness, is the direct opposite of lightness, and can be defined as a lack of illumination, an absence of visible light, or a surface that absorbs light, such as black or brown.

So, 1 John 1:5, informs us that, God is light, and in Him there is no darkness at all, complement verse 1 John 1:5a part with, God is perfect in righteousness, and further on, the verse says: in Him there is no darkness at all, complement this verse 1 John 1:5b part with, has no sin, no blemish, no wickedness, no imperfection no et cetera, then Romans 4:17 states that: God creates new things out of nothing, meaning He calls into existence, things that do not exist.

The conclusion that can be drawn from 1 John 1:5 and Romans 4:17 about Genesis 1:2, is that the absence of God's presence gives darkness the opportunity to occur and develop, but the moment light appears, darkness often automatically disappears, which incidentally is what happened at Genesis 1:3, where it states: 'And God said,“Let there be light”; and there was light.'

Yes, God at Genesis 1:4, recognised the darkness, by separating and distinguished it, to on top, call it Night, and the light, Day, which interestingly was the first day, even before the moon and sun were created.

So Genesis 1:3, is the primeval light, better still, God called part of the primordial light, existing within Him, existing all over Him and emanating from the Him, to spread throughout and pervade the darkness while Genesis 1:14-19 is when and where called into existence the moon and sun

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Woooooow, you just confused me even more with all these................ you wrote up there.

Long unnecessary story trying to explain ancient myths written by goat herders.
There are billions of suns in the universe in different solar systems. The Bible story focuses on earth and everything around it because those who wrote this story didn't know about other planets or if there are suns out there. The whole story plays out on earth. The tree of life, the garden of Eden, Satan's fall and every other thing took place on earth.
How does one create billions of planets and solar systems but choose to focus on one small tiny rock with water and still fail woefully at keeping things in order and in good shape?

How many times do I have to tell you that there's no God it has never existed

kingxsamz:
Long unnecessary story trying to explain ancient myths written by goat herders.
There are billions of suns in the universe in different solar systems. The Bible story focuses on earth and everything around it because those who wrote this story didn't know about other planets or if there are suns out there. The whole story plays out on earth. The tree of life, the garden of Eden, Satan's fall and every other thing took place on earth.
How does one create billions of planets and solar systems but choose to focus on one small tiny rock with water and still fail woefully at keeping things in order and in good shape?

The Bible wasn’t written by “goat herders”. The creators of that stories you refer to may have been ignorant of “ billions of planets and solar systems”, and they did build their theology on a geocentric system but “goat herders” there were not.
One has to be pretty smart to come up with the bullshit they did. My favorite piece of bullshit from the “garden”:

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis%203%3A15&version=NIV&interface=amp
15 And I will put enmity
between you and the woman,
and between your offspring and hers;
he will crush your head,
and you will strike his heel.”

I also like how the Catholics have changed their own Bible as seen below. Hmmmm, lmao. The “word of dog” indeed. I wonder if Dog edited it or maybe it was man, as always.

https://bible.usccb.org/bible/genesis/3

15
I will put enmity between you and the woman,
and between your offspring and hers;
They will strike at your head,
while you strike at their heel.

If the OP wasn’t the typical Christian, he would point at the Cosmic Microwave Background as evidence that his jew god created light before the “greater light” and the “lesser light”. But if he were capable of that he wouldn’t be trying to make sense out of fairy tales in the first place.

Genesis 1:2-3

And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

Sixfiguresmart:
The sun is not the only light in this universe. The sun is the light in OUR galaxy. There are billions of galaxies out there. You gotta understand that the sun is like a pin in comparison to other stars. The sun is not even the brightest star.

The light in question is different. There is light that comes from God. That light is God.
1 John 1:5 God is light

Ok I get your point....but was the earth created before the sun and stars? According to gen 1: 14-16

Tboy222:
The first Light mentioned wasn't the physical light as we know, the light was the presence of God.

God was about to create and put a representation of himself on earth. And they could not exist without His presence. So He had to usher in his presence.

God is a God of holiness, righteousness, truthfulness, justice and orderliness. Even though He is God, yet He had he had to usher in his own presence.

The only place God is not present is In Hell, and you can not even begin to imagine the horrors, terrors, indescribable sorrow and hopelessness that's in there


So apart from our life, breadth , talents and abilities we should be grateful for the presence of God. And always pray to usher in His presence in our daily activities.

Ok I get your point....but was the earth created before the sun and stars? According to gen 1: 14-16

kingxsamz:
Long unnecessary story trying to explain ancient myths written by goat herders.
There are billions of suns in the universe in different solar systems. The Bible story focuses on earth and everything around it because those who wrote this story didn't know about other planets or if there are suns out there. The whole story plays out on earth. The tree of life, the garden of Eden, Satan's fall and every other thing took place on earth.
How does one create billions of planets and solar systems but choose to focus on one small tiny rock with water and still fail woefully at keeping things in order and in good shape?

It depends on how you understand the scriptures....I love the fact that you noticed that the story was written from the perspective of a human observer on earth.....if you agree with that then the whole creation story would make sense.....you can contact me on whatsapp 08167469103 more more bible discussion on scientific accuracy.

Lasgidi90:
Woooooow, you just confused me even more with all these................ you wrote up there.

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The genesis book was created from many other books hence the confusion.