englishmart:
The deal was that he who knew no sin, would die as a recompense for sin. After dying to save the world, he resurrected on the third day. Didn't his resurrection invalidate the deal?

For example, I hired and paid an assassin to get someone eliminated, few months later, I found out the person didn't die after all. Don't you think the deal falling through will trigger a refund?

MaxInDHouse:


This is what most religionists claiming Christians failed to understand, Jesus paid for mankind's sin as man but he resurrected as a spirit being, his human body is the sacrifice not his prehuman existence which must continue after his earthly mission!

englishmart:
1. The deal was that he who knew no sin, would die as a recompense for sin. After dying to save the world, he resurrected on the third day. Didn't his resurrection invalidate the deal?

2. For example, I hired and paid an assassin to get someone eliminated, few months later, I found out the person didn't die after all. Don't you think the deal falling through will trigger a refund?

Kobojunkiee:
1. Jesus Christ lived a righteous life according to the Standard that is the Old Law of Moses, and died a cursed death, in order to pay off the ransom owed by those among His people who would choose through Him to live under God's New Law and Covenant in the Kingdom of God. By dying as He did, not only did He earn Righteousness which He was able to pay their ransom with, but He also overcame the power of the curse on those who were cursed among them, and by His resurrection, overcame the power of Death as well.

2. Your example of yours falls tremendously short in this case.

englishmart:
Life may be spiritual but it's experienced physically. The spirit realm however has always been explained to suit individual analogies. Life in the spirit isn't uniformal.

englishmart:
He resurrected as a spirit being. We just easily make up points when we can't prove logically.

englishmart:
He resurrected as a spirit being. We just easily make up points when we can't prove logically.

englishmart:
The deal was that he who knew no sin, would die as a recompense for sin. After dying to save the world, he resurrected on the third day. Didn't his resurrection invalidate the deal?

For example, I hired and paid an assassin to get someone eliminated, few months later, I found out the person didn't die after all. Don't you think the deal falling through will trigger a refund?

Creamypie:
No. His resurrection is to give hope that ALL those who worshipped his father and had died b4 will raise up, just as those after his resurrection too.so christian faith should preach this as a foundation of Christian faith...... But everything is on timetable, which only God knows. So he's giving us benefit of time to repent and to know whose ruler ship was right and best.... Gods own b4 Adamic sin or our life after his sin, which brings all problems, such as death, wars

Kobojunkie:
He resurrected as a spirit being? Where do you folks get your version of the story from abeg?

englishmart:
The deal was that he who knew no sin, would die as a recompense for sin. After dying to save the world, he resurrected on the third day. Didn't his resurrection invalidate the deal?

For example, I hired and paid an assassin to get someone eliminated, few months later, I found out the person didn't die after all. Don't you think the deal falling through will trigger a refund?

englishmart:
The deal was that he who knew no sin, would die as a recompense for sin. After dying to save the world, he resurrected on the third day. Didn't his resurrection invalidate the deal?

For example, I hired and paid an assassin to get someone eliminated, few months later, I found out the person didn't die after all. Don't you think the deal falling through will trigger a refund?

Kobojunkie:
Which one of the many translations there tells you that the Last Adam was not a living being even as He was a life-giving spirit?

Jesus Christ was, from the womb, both of human(living being) and of Spirit(life-giving being since He was full of Truth and Life(grace)) stock. So, at what point exactly in His journey did He cease to be a living being?

The same Jesus Christ confirmed His living-beingness even after His resurrection to His followers, just before His ascension. So was He not aware of this loss you claim?

In Daniel 7 vs 13 - 14, He is described as coming in the likeness of a human - a son of man - to reign over all the nations of the earth, so again, is it that even God Himself ain't aware of Him supposedly losing his living-being-ness at some point along His Journey?

Kobojunkie:
This topic is regarding Jesus Christ. If your last Adam is not the same Jesus Christ this topic is focused on, then why in the word did you direct your question at me to begin with?

MaxInDHouse:


This is what most religionists claiming Christians failed to understand, Jesus paid for mankind's sin as man but he resurrected as a spirit being, his human body is the sacrifice not his prehuman existence which must continue after his earthly mission!

englishmart:
The deal was that he who knew no sin, would die as a recompense for sin. After dying to save the world, he resurrected on the third day. Didn't his resurrection invalidate the deal?

For example, I hired and paid an assassin to get someone eliminated, few months later, I found out the person didn't die after all. Don't you think the deal falling through will trigger a refund?

englishmart:
The deal was that he who knew no sin, would die as a recompense for sin. After dying to save the world, he resurrected on the third day. Didn't his resurrection invalidate the deal?

For example, I hired and paid an assassin to get someone eliminated, few months later, I found out the person didn't die after all. Don't you think the deal falling through will trigger a refund?

Lukuluku69:
Bros, the thinking that Jesus or anyone came for vicarious attornment was Paul's idea.


Don't sweat it. You will see Christians coming here each and everyone with their Church's twisted understanding of Paul's bable.

Lukuluku69:

Straight from the Books of Bables.
If he rises as a spirit being as you claimed, why then need to eat? To rest? And hide?
Before you come with your programmed bables, I will show you from your Bible where Jesus ate, rest and hide.

MaxInDHouse:


The three guests Abraham entertained {Genesis 18:2} weren't humans, they RESTED {Genesis 18:4} they ATE {Genesis 18:8} and they HIDE! Genesis 19:10

Ọmọ stick to your Qu'ran this is beyond your understanding!

Kobojunkie:
Actually you are wrong! The thinking wasn't from Paul but from God Himself and this through His Prophets.

Recall several of the chapters we had examined before from the book of Isaiah had mentioned that during the time when Jerusalem is restored as God's Holy City, that her sons and daughters will return from all the ends of the world bringing along with them riches from every tribe, language and nation. Well, the reason that is to happen is because of Jesus Christ haven atoned for them, and hence restored them back to God. God cursed and cast them out of His Israel- this He spoke of doing this in His Law which He gave to them through Moses - and so they had need to be redeemed from that curse put on them by God before they could regain their place as His nation of priest. Jesus Christ was God's plan for this from the beginning, as explained both in the Law and by the Prophets.

Lukuluku69:
Baba, no long thing show a verse or a chapter that says God will come in form of a man and die for people's sin. Give me something concrete not what you think for I can give you what I think too which doesn't mean a thing in the grand scheme of things Give me where God says He is killing an innocent man for the Transgressions of sinful souls. Then we will examine it and talk.Simple enough.

Kobojunkie:
Oh, so never mind that which is stated. You instead need it all to be tailored to your intelligence level... exactly that which God said He will never do.

Don't worry, if you don't want to believe that which is written in the Law of Moses and the Prophets that came in Israel, no worries.

Kobojunkie:
Oh, so never mind that which is stated. You instead need it all to be tailored to your intelligence level... exactly that which God said He will never do.

Don't worry, if you don't want to believe that which is written in the Law of Moses and the Prophets that came in Israel, no worries.

Lukuluku69:
Don't get it twisted Sir! Baba, tell me rephrase. From Genesis to Malachi, show me a verse that says God Almighty is gonna come down and die for sinful souls.In the same vein, show me a verse or a chapter where God said He is sending His son to come die in a vicarious attornment drama. Do the above and let us examine it. When you type any other stuff aside the above, you are a babbler like Apostle Paul.

englishmart:
The deal was that he who knew no sin, would die as a recompense for sin. After dying to save the world, he resurrected on the third day. Didn't his resurrection invalidate the deal?

For example, I hired and paid an assassin to get someone eliminated, few months later, I found out the person didn't die after all. Don't you think the deal falling through will trigger a refund?

Kobojunkie:
As I already explained, no one is sent to add to that which God has already declared for your sake. So it is perfectly Ok if you chose to ignore that which He revealed through His Law of Moses and His prophets.

Lukuluku69:
1. Op your thinking is right. I mean what is the meaning of Sacrifice? If you lay down your life knowing fully well that you can take it back, where does sacrifice come in?

2. If I have God's assurance that I will rise up three days later if should lay down my life for Mankind sins, I will gladly do so without crying and waiking and also sweating blood.

14 I am the good shepherd. I know my own and my own know me, 
15 just as the Father knows me and I know the Father; and I lay down my life for the sheep. 
16 And I have other sheep that are not of this fold. I must bring them also, and they will listen to my voice. So there will be one flock, one shepherd. 
17 For this reason the Father loves me, because I lay down my life that I may take it up again. 
18 No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down, and I have authority to take it up again. This charge I have received from my Father.” - John 10 vs 14 - 18