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If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by MadeINchenzen2: 8:58am On Mar 31
The complete chapters of the Bible gave no insights or notes about 'karma'... Though the term 'karma' is from the Janism, Hindu and Buddhist religion, but everyone believes in it strongly... Maybe the Bible insinuated it when Christ said "He who kill by the sword, will die by the sword"... " What a man sows, he reaps"...

If we all agree with this (karma) why then do we ask God for forgiveness?

Can one commit a sin and be completely forgiven by God and free from consequences?


Kindly help me with your insights. Thanks

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Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by ValarDoharis: 9:07am On Mar 31
Religion na scam
MadeINchenzen2:
The complete chapters of the Bible gave no insights or notes about 'karma'... Though the term 'karma' is from the Janism, Hindu and Buddhist religion, but everyone believes in it strongly... Maybe the Bible insinuated it when Christ said "He who kill by the sword, will die by the sword"... " What a man sows, he reaps"...

If we all agree with this (karma) why then do we ask God for forgiveness?

Can one commit a sin and be completely forgiven by God and free from consequences?


Kindly help me with your insights. Thanks

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Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by magoo10(m): 9:11am On Mar 31
God forgives our sins if we ask for forgiveness and truly repent and make total change from our sinful lives.
As we know living without sin in this world is not easy ,that is what keeps attracting people to karma.

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Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by onumadu: 9:15am On Mar 31
MadeINchenzen2:
The complete chapters of the Bible gave no insights or notes about 'karma'... Though the term 'karma' is from the Janism, Hindu and Buddhist religion, but everyone believes in it strongly... Maybe the Bible insinuated it when Christ said "He who kill by the sword, will die by the sword"... " What a man sows, he reaps"...

If we all agree with this (karma) why then do we ask God for forgiveness?

Can one commit a sin and be completely forgiven by God and free from consequences?


Kindly help me with your insights. Thanks

This is a deep topic, and belongs to the religious section.
To answer your question:
I call Karma the "universal constitution" that operates within the realm of human consciousness.
God on the other hand is a being that exists beyond all laws.
An example: A building engineer can decide to use burnt bricks, stones, or cement blocks to build a structure. He can also decide to use different types of bonding to hold the bricks, blocks or stones together. And so forth in this example...
God exercises "supreme divine prerogative" (.i.e he can do whatever he wants).
He can choose to forgive whoever he wants for whatever reasons. That is why he is GOD.

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Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by perfectsusanoo(m): 9:38am On Mar 31
Karma is a biitch. It is the 'reply' of nature to an effort. Regardless of forgiveness or not. Thats when people go dey tel u: bros na now go show weda ur faith don don. Karma is GOD.

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Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by Aboks(m): 10:02am On Mar 31
Forgiveness is sure but you must suffer for it
even king david God forgave him, but he suffered the consequences of his actions

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Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by MadeINchenzen2: 10:41am On Mar 31
Aboks:
Forgiveness is sure but you must suffer for it

even king david God forgave him, but he suffered the consequences of his actions
so of what use is forgiveness?

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Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by Mynd44: 10:53am On Mar 31
Karma and the Christianity are two different beliefs hence God forgiving you has nothing to do with Karma as it is based on a different religious inclination

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Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by BarrElChapo(m): 10:55am On Mar 31
Divine justice.

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Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by donpapa(m): 10:55am On Mar 31
Karma is basically a law of nature. What goes around, comes around. We reap what we sow. It’s that simple. It works like our shadow. We can’t run away from it and it has nothing to do with God and forgiveness.

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Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by shadrach77: 10:56am On Mar 31
There is Karma and there is the forgiveness of God. God does forgive but you will still have to face the consequences of your misdeeds. That doesn't mean God hasn't forgiven you. E.g. a lady who commits fornication and gets pregnant 🤰 then asks God for forgiveness. God will forgive her but then she still has the pregnancy and the baby to cater for.

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Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by Bbgbs23: 10:56am On Mar 31
Leaving APUGA to PDP then to LP and then to SDP. Without nothing to show.

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Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by tunjijones(m): 10:57am On Mar 31
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Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by DropsMic(m): 10:58am On Mar 31
Doesn’t exist.

If e dey exist, our politicians would be the most unfortunate people on the face of the earth.
If e dey exist, the descendants of those who participated in the transatlantic slave trade would be suffering today.

Also, prayers don’t work. If it did, Tinubu won’t be the president today.

Subconsciously we all know this these things, but for some reasons, na we believe in them pass.

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Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by jamesversion: 10:58am On Mar 31
MadeINchenzen2:
The complete chapters of the Bible gave no insights or notes about 'karma'... Though the term 'karma' is from the Janism, Hindu and Buddhist religion, but everyone believes in it strongly... Maybe the Bible insinuated it when Christ said "He who kill by the sword, will die by the sword"... " What a man sows, he reaps"...

If we all agree with this (karma) why then do we ask God for forgiveness?

Can one commit a sin and be completely forgiven by God and free from consequences?


Kindly help me with your insights. Thanks

Interesting ask indeed. Patiently waiting for responses.
Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by marlow1962(m): 10:59am On Mar 31
What you sow, you shall reap.
If you sow evil and it gets to the turn you reap you evil, and you run to repent, lol my brother you go still reap you evil.

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Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by StraightGaay: 10:59am On Mar 31
A bitch?
Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by Emusan(m): 11:00am On Mar 31
Mynd44:
Karma and the Christianity are two different beliefs

Pure lie!

The scriptures says "Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap. For he who sows to his flesh will of the flesh reap corruption, but he who sows to the Spirit will of the Spirit reap everlasting life." - Gal 6:7-8

This is where the law of Karma was drawn.

So, to Christians your wrong doing against them is left for God and according to the scriptures above, God is in charge.

hence God forgiving you has nothing to do with Karma as it is based on a different religious inclination

Yes! God's forgiveness and karma are two different things.

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Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by Danboy43: 11:00am On Mar 31
God forgives our sin through the blood Jesus Christ shield on the cross of Calvary. Ephesians 1 vs 7.
But you have to reap what you sow through your actions.
Galatians 6 vs 7.

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Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by WantsandMore: 11:00am On Mar 31
When you ask God for forgiveness, he forgives you & throws a challenge your way to see if you've repented? Your ability to navigate this new challenge is a testament to your willingness to change and be a better person. Been obidients to God is a constant struggle against your character, flesh and spirit. This is why we must continue to serve & worship God at all times even when we are not perfect. The 3 cardinal ways to serve him properly, fasting, praying & alms giving couple with listening to his word & practicing them as much as we can. Begging for forgiveness whenever we err, & making conscious effort to grow above our previous mistakes.

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Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by Offpoint1: 11:02am On Mar 31
Religiously... If God forgives sins there will be no hell (not that it exist anyways)

Religiously... If Jesus died for our sins, there will be no hell (simply meaning the death story was vain because you still need to work your salvation)

Religion was designed for weak minded folks, religion is against logic, hence logical folks questioned it and don't buy the stories.



There's a creator who programmed the universe to run it course. Religion is men creation, men with motives.


Back to the topic, Karma doesn't exist. The only karma that exist is INSTANT KARMA, which has to do with physics.

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Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by DJInfluence: 11:03am On Mar 31
Karma is a bitch grin
Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by Northernblood7(m): 11:03am On Mar 31
You are saved doesn't mean that you won't reap the fruit you sowed on earth.

Yes you will be accepted by God in heaven but you will definitely see the results of your past actions. If not, people will just live most of their lives committing all sort of abomination since they know that when they are old and have no strength to commit sin further, they will simply pray and it will be over. It will make man wiser than God when compared with a functional country's constitution.

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Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by chieveboy(m): 11:03am On Mar 31
Good question.

The supreme God doesn't hold grudges nor forgives them. We are actually are the ones who forgive ourselves or not. We reap what we sow whether we forgive ourselves or not.

The whole idea of sin, forgiveness, anger of the lord, etc were invented in Rome and also from experiences of the Israelites with the beings who came to earth and said "let us make man in our image"...


Jesus was very clear on this: you sow, you find out!

The above scripture does damage to the idea of forgiveness in that what you sow is either a sin or not., and you reap it either ways

Jesus further said: God (The supreme creator) is not mocked: Meaning don't bother using so-called "scripture" to justify or expect any forgiveness...

You will be born again as a new baby if you haven't finished reaping what you sow, and then aluta will continua from the past life or lives.

Forgiveness trick:

Commit any sin (don't worry, all the ones you've committed are deliberate grin).

1: Decide God has forgiven you, and that's it, you feel forgiven.

2: Pray for forgiveness, fast, etc and don't believe God has forgiven you. You will still believe you are not forgiven.

Lesson: We forgive and not forgive our sins. We reap what we sow. Sowing and reaping is why this works was created for spiritual training.

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Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by tivta(m): 11:04am On Mar 31
There's no God
Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by chieveboy(m): 11:06am On Mar 31
onumadu:


He can also decide to use different types of bonding to hold the bricks, blocks or stones together. And so forth in this example...
God exercises "supreme divine prerogative" (.i.e he can do whatever he wants).
He can choose to forgive whoever he wants for whatever reasons. That is why he is GOD.

So sorry bro, God never hold grudges nor forgives them.

You're speaking from the limited orthodox religious and 'Manlification' of God.
Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by tuoyoojo(m): 11:07am On Mar 31
Forgiveness of sin Is guaranteed with true repentance in the spiritual relm. That is in the afterlife, God would not hold the sin against you

But

Earthly, the consequences of the action MAY persist.

For example someone who is sexual reckless and gets hiv and pregnant who repents would be forgiven. She may be healed but that pikin go remain
Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by Damian911: 11:08am On Mar 31
DropsMic:
Doesn’t exist.

If e dey exist, our politicians would be the most unfortunate people on the face of the earth.
If e dey exist, the descendants of those who participated in the transatlantic slave trade would be suffering today.

Also, prayers don’t work. If it did, Tinubu won’t be the president today.

Subconsciously we all know this these things, but for some reasons, na we believe in them pass.
Simply put Karma works but is discriminatory cheesy

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Re: If God Truly Forgive Us Our Sins, What Then Is Karma? by Prettychild(f): 11:08am On Mar 31
MadeINchenzen2:
The complete chapters of the Bible gave no insights or notes about 'karma'... Though the term 'karma' is from the Janism, Hindu and Buddhist religion, but everyone believes in it strongly... Maybe the Bible insinuated it when Christ said "He who kill by the sword, will die by the sword"... " What a man sows, he reaps"...

If we all agree with this (karma) why then do we ask God for forgiveness?

Can one commit a sin and be completely forgiven by God and free from consequences?


Kindly help me with your insights. Thanks
Forgiveness doesn’t mean that you won’t suffer the consequences of your actions. Although you can ask God by His mercies to take away the consequences too

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