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Re: CAN Plans Christian Banking After Swedish Model by nagoma(m): 6:52pm On Aug 26, 2011
Islamic Banking cannot Islamise Nigeria. The use of a clearly potent weapon that has been tested and trusted-education has not yet made all Nigerians to be Christians. We all know the effect Christian schools had in evangelism across the country but particularly in the SW where probably tens of thousands of Muslim children converted to Christianity because they attended Christian schools. Although the probability has always been obvious there were no such protests against Christian schools and they are still going strong winning souls for Jesus through schools. I have no objection to that as long as pupils and students are not conscripted but came to enroll by choice and can afford it . My cousin who is a Muslim is attending the covenant university - and why not? If Muslims are not happy with that all the need to do is to have quality attractive schools. I agree with the CAN president lets have interest free banks with Christian value bias just like the schools. With regard to government support let's have the equity - See my other comments above pls.
Re: CAN Plans Christian Banking After Swedish Model by Nobody: 6:57pm On Aug 26, 2011
Nigeria is an epic fail.
Re: CAN Plans Christian Banking After Swedish Model by Nobody: 7:07pm On Aug 26, 2011
@pukka, i completely disagree wit u. Try n read wit understanding dats d onlyway u will comprehend the point the CAN president was making. There is no contradiction in what he said rather he pointed out the contradictions in sls stand in this issue. The law frowns at using state funds to promote religious banking bearing in mind the secular nature of the country which the CAN president stated and sanusi has ignored that part of the cbn act and has gone ahead to use state fund to promote a religious bank as against d provisions of d cbn act, so thats d contradictions on the part of sls hence he is compeled to apply same vigor,energy,funds when christain banks comes up since he has unilaterally changed d rules and introduced religious banking into the system. @colouring and innoson, u guys made so much sensen christain banks comes up since he has unilaterally changed d rules and introduced religious banking into the system. @colouring and innoson, u guys made so much sense
Re: CAN Plans Christian Banking After Swedish Model by kokogee: 7:22pm On Aug 26, 2011
They should roll out the modus oprandi and proposal now.
Re: CAN Plans Christian Banking After Swedish Model by nogames: 7:45pm On Aug 26, 2011
There may be nothing wrong with Islamic banking but a lot is wrong with Nigeria Muslims,.Because they see violence as only way to press for their right.
I think Nigeria Muslims should be ashamed of themselves, instead of making noise on NL
Their brothers Boko Haram claimed responsibility for today blast again,
imaging shame and disrespect the word Islam as brought unto this Great nation.
It is a pity
Re: CAN Plans Christian Banking After Swedish Model by CHoccolaTE: 8:08pm On Aug 26, 2011
imaging shame and disrespect
The word is 'imagine' not imaging. If you are going to insult people with English, at least make sure you can speak correct English first.
Re: CAN Plans Christian Banking After Swedish Model by marabout(m): 8:23pm On Aug 26, 2011
Ifa pipo 2 must get their own non-interest banking too.

Yemoja and esu people should not be let out.
Re: CAN Plans Christian Banking After Swedish Model by Austileo: 8:41pm On Aug 26, 2011
CAN go on we wit u d problem we have is because our christian weapons is CHRIST JESUS who promotes international love rather than their fake prophet mohammed who loves international wars.i dont blame d boko harams because dey operates with spirit of their alah and prophet.CAN go on we wit u d problem we have is because our christian weapons is CHRIST JESUS who promotes international love rather than their fake prophet mohammed who loves international wars.i dont blame d boko harams because dey operates with spirit of their alah and prophet.
Re: CAN Plans Christian Banking After Swedish Model by BetaThings: 9:05pm On Aug 26, 2011
nogames:

There may  be nothing wrong with Islamic banking  but  a lot is wrong with Nigeria Muslims,.Because they see violence as only way to press for their right.
I think Nigeria Muslims should  be ashamed of themselves, instead of making noise on NL
Their brothers Boko Haram  claimed responsibility for today blast again,
imaging shame and disrespect the word Islam as brought unto this Great nation.
It is a pity
Nigerian muslims (and they are many) are so violent that you have personally witnessed how many

Oritsejafor = Islamic Banking will divide this country
Oritsejafor = we will set up christian banking
The question is, so the latter will unite this country
Oritsejafor actions actually undermine peace!

http://www.punchontheweb.com/Articl.aspx?theartic=Art201108269564515
CAN is against the introduction of Islamic banking because it fears it will further divide the country.
As if he really cared about unity
[i]Speaking during the opening day of a two-day conference of the Nigeria Christian Graduate Fellowshi[/i]p
The Nigerian Christian Graduate Fellowship will unite country?

We are not even against Islamic banking but what we are saying is that it should be the choice of the Muslims.
So he is now the defender of muslim rights to choose? How rich. Is this not interference

Speaking on the theme for day, ‘A New Beginning’, Oritsejafor, who also doubles as President of the Pentecostal Fellowship of Nigeria, called on participants to speak up and be more aware of their current circumstances, saying, “you cannot begin anew without looking back at things of the past.”
So promoting suspicion, encouraging people to raise false alarms and inciting them to become hostile is now his contribution to peace?
Re: CAN Plans Christian Banking After Swedish Model by BetaThings: 9:11pm On Aug 26, 2011
Austileo:

CAN go on we wit u d problem we have is because our christian weapons is CHRIST JESUS who promotes international love rather than their fake prophet mohammed who loves international wars.i dont blame d boko harams because dey operates with spirit of their alah and prophet.CAN go on we wit u d problem we have is because our christian weapons is CHRIST JESUS who promotes international love rather than their fake prophet mohammed who loves international wars.i dont blame d boko harams because dey operates with spirit of their alah and prophet.
You have read "Awake" and "Rhapsody" for too long!
Where was christian love when Africa was being partitioned by Christian Europe
And these people were putting padlocks in the mouths of African slaves?
Bakassi problem was created by Christian Europe
St bartholomews day Massacre, Wars of Religion, Gunpowder Plot, The Crusades, Battle of Lepanto are realities
Stop spreading fallacies
Re: CAN Plans Christian Banking After Swedish Model by JoeMosco(m): 10:28pm On Aug 26, 2011
This sounds like a religious-financial battle. Well in this country major religious sects include Christianity, Islam and Traditional Worship, Thus, we should be expecting three versions of non- interest banks. What a FIASCO
Re: CAN Plans Christian Banking After Swedish Model by volasunkan: 11:22pm On Aug 26, 2011
^^^ grin grin grin grin grin

yeparipa bank plc
BOKO HARAM Int'l plc
Revd KING HOLY BANK plc
Re: CAN Plans Christian Banking After Swedish Model by REVOLUTNIS: 1:42am On Aug 27, 2011
these ogogoro boko haramist should leave this forum
and go and bomb American embassy after successful attack
on UN building in Abuja, IDIOTS.
Leave CAN chairman alone plsssssssss. He is not like
your sultans that secretly sponsors terrorism,
Re: CAN Plans Christian Banking After Swedish Model by Edygo: 5:51am On Aug 27, 2011
Christian banking, Islamic banking i do'nt care d name its carrying, d concert is good. what we working hard on proper implementation, once d end result can create job for d youth, push naira close 2 doller, standardize d economy, is OK by me
Re: CAN Plans Christian Banking After Swedish Model by Edygo: 6:02am On Aug 27, 2011
CAN president should b careful he is threatening this economy, double president greed has taken over d church, there is no politics in haven, religious men should mind there busin
ess and let economics do their job.
Re: CAN Plans Christian Banking After Swedish Model by bouzymill(m): 6:15am On Aug 27, 2011
nogames:

There may be nothing wrong with Islamic banking but a lot is wrong with Nigeria Muslims,.Because they see violence as only way to press for their right.
I think Nigeria Muslims should be ashamed of themselves, instead of making noise on NL
Their brothers Boko Haram claimed responsibility for today blast again,
imaging shame and disrespect the word Islam as brought unto this Great nation.
It is a pity

Only a fool claims to know something when He actually knows not. All the bolded text shows your shallow character and I just don't see the difference between you and the boko haram people you are talking about. People like you don't usually make it to any leadership role because you are very poor at choosing your words.
Re: CAN Plans Christian Banking After Swedish Model by TBrownAuto(m): 9:58am On Aug 27, 2011
I wonder what wrong now with we Nigerians because we have been rule and lead by ignorant and illiterate does not need we should not do or say the right thing we are arguing about religion for which none is part of our true origin in this country so why must the CAN president talk as if he did not complete nursery class, imagine a pastor has 5 jet order doing Jerri coil some brain washing their member all in the name of God chriatainity is not a company that runs marketing God says our heart is his temple.

please am a Christan and i support Islamic banking non intrest i pray God almighty make it come true. Amen
Re: CAN Plans Christian Banking After Swedish Model by joudini(m): 10:13am On Aug 27, 2011
Na wa o. Nairaland no go kill me. Which one be okija banking, yemoja banking, esu banking, boko haram & sons ltd banking, even rev king banking, obatala, hahahahaha. I have always been a guest here for years but l just couldnt resist the urge to register. For those of us who are eyo worshippers, we need eyo banking,hahahahaha
Re: CAN Plans Christian Banking After Swedish Model by Remii(m): 11:25am On Aug 27, 2011
Pastor Oritsejafor may just be protecting his own bank, Eagleflight MFB. Check below info and link,

http://eagleflightbank.com/index.html


http://eagleflightbank.com/chairman_statement.html

Founded in 2005, Eagle Flight Microfinance Bank is a financial institution licensed with Central Bank of Nigeria (CBN) and based in the city of Warri. Eagle Flight aims to encourage entrepreneurial development, instill a culture of savings and bridge the gap between the poor and the rich using technology. Eagle Flight Microfinance Bank does not report to the Microfinance Information Exchange (MIX), but the chairman of the bank, Pastor Helen Oritsejafor, reported that Eagle Flight had NGN 1 billion (USD 6.47 million) in share capital as of December 2010.
Re: CAN Plans Christian Banking After Swedish Model by zoomzoom1(m): 7:12pm On Aug 27, 2011
colouring:


Muslims are not in any bondage, but the lack of structure, organisation and maturity on this forum prevents lot of muslims from making comments on issues that borders on the Islamic religion. As a NLer, i have witnessed intelligent comments that were faced with abuses and sometimes curses just because some NLers have religious biases, prejudices and sentiments. Take for instance, a bomb blast occur and in less than 30 minutes, without any authenticated evidence, some NLers have started castigating muslims for the attack. No conscious muslim will support killing of innocent citizens. In Islam, an unjust killing is synonymous to destroying an entire nation and likewise saving a soul is synonymous to saving an entire nation.

On the issue of Islamic Banking, I believe that the problems many Christians have is the word Islam and that is why they do not bother to understand the basis, modus operandi and the benefits of this banking system. However, this is like planting a seed of ignorance, which will only bring about the fruits of enmity and discord. Why will Nigeria borrow $5bn in 1985, paid almost $20bn and still owed $28bn. This is the height of injustice, some people may say that it is based on agreement between the parties but i say why not try a better alternative which is Islamic Financing. Even the US Govt raised over $12bn dollars from Islamic Bonds, this is because they know the benefits they will derive from the transaction. Interest kills and if there is an alternative, why not abandon it. Let us try to embrace the spirit of love, affection, unity and tolerance.

For instance, it will be inappropriate for a muslim to say that Nigeria is being islamised because of any of the following reasons, amongst others:
1) Sunday is an-off day work whereas there is work on Friday;
2) The symbol of cross is used by Nigerian Medical Association, just because of the believe that "Christ Heals";
3) Almost all classrooms are being used as Churches in our tertiary institutions;
4) Proliferation of Churches on Lagos streets and mid-night disturbances for vigil prayers in residential areas;
5) Use of "Church-originated" gowns by schools to graduate students;
6) etc.

With love, affection, unity and tolerance, we can live happily as brothers in this country.

Well said.
Re: CAN Plans Christian Banking After Swedish Model by basadenet: 7:27pm On Aug 27, 2011
It is a welcome development and healthy rivalry among the two religion. CAN well done.
Re: CAN Plans Christian Banking After Swedish Model by member479760: 11:57pm On Aug 27, 2011
Bunch of prof of econs and finance still we always need outside training to do anything in this country. dumb nation!
Re: CAN Plans Christian Banking After Swedish Model by ponana(m): 8:35am On Aug 28, 2011
Contorvesy over nothing, seriously na wa oooooooo. With the rate at which the country is going where over half of the country is plunged in poverty, we still have our religious leaders who are suppose to be pushing people to push their faith in the direction of the one true Allah/God preparing to cause problems over a banking system all because it is addressed by a name that is different from their faith. Putting all things aside, we as individuals need to develop our personal knowledge base and be open minded to knowledge seeking, otherwise we would all be ruined by people just coming to postulate theories and saying things that are far from being true
Re: CAN Plans Christian Banking After Swedish Model by vedaxcool(m): 3:48pm On Aug 28, 2011
Like I long indicated Christians were pained because they could not duplicate their own form of Banking, I clearly understand one thing that just as people in the North are manipulated based on Islamic beliefs which is often blamed on their illiteracy and ignorance, I have come to see Christians leaders have for a long time coming been manipulating the masses despite their level of education. The core of the Nigerian problem lies in Hypocrisy.
Re: CAN Plans Christian Banking After Swedish Model by kc2dey: 4:20pm On Aug 28, 2011
Sanusi should simply spell out the rules for religious banking just as we have for commercial banking, community banking, etc. It does not have to be Islamic banking or Christian banking, our constitution permits you to worship anythting, just anything, we should get this into out heads that Nigeria is a secular nation and it can NNNNNNNNNever be IIIIIIIIslamic nation OR CCCCCCCCChristian nation per se. By so doijng, even the islamic banking and the christian banking would not make any noise for their establishement. We may never even need to know about it.

Kc
Re: CAN Plans Christian Banking After Swedish Model by sampeter(m): 4:27pm On Aug 29, 2011
Useless be-as-i-be moslem haters. if the pastors are riding on jets, are u told they took money from mosques and muslims? are u told the members complained? then whats ur own head ache? so, u want pastors to go about in penury like ur alfas, imams, etc. BTW, your imams, how many lives have they affected? while the pastor are busy exposing and guiding ppl into tapping d wealth in God, and ppl are cheerfully giving back to them, ur imams are teaching ppl how to indulge in begging, and u are driving ur bad mouth against God"s anointed. Excuse me! do u want CAN president to fold his arm when injustice is being meted out to d xtian body in the name of Islamic Bank. Doesn't Gboko haram sanusi know thats a pandora box? The fact is the Islamic body never love peace.period! Too combatant and belligerent!
Re: CAN Plans Christian Banking After Swedish Model by wealth123: 5:38pm On Aug 29, 2011
All islamic apologists on Nairaland should please be more civilised than their Boko haram brothers. Let us stop all these senseless religious bigotry and face issues that will lead to development of our country.

How many muslims have condemned all the bombings by BOKO HARAM claiming innocent lives in Nigeria? You think insulting men of God and Killing people is the only way to propagate islam abi SHAME ON YOU. ALL OF WILL END UP LIKE SADAM, BIN LADEN AND YOUR BROTHER GADAFI.

THEY NEVER LEARN FROM HISTORY. JIHAD CANNOT WORK IN NIGERIA OR ANY WHERE IN THE WORLD TECHNOLOGY HAS OVERTAKEN ALL THAT BUT YOU GUYS ARE STILL LIVING IN THE STONE AGE.
Re: CAN Plans Christian Banking After Swedish Model by Edygo: 4:25am On Aug 30, 2011
It will interest you to know that many guys who are against the pastor's speech are not Muslims.  in fact i have a worship song playing on my system as i write, i am a believed christian and so are other. stop throwing stone to d Muslims brothers, now answer these questions: is prof. soludo a Muslim? i ask because he is the one who started the work on non interest  bank.(Islamic banking) sanusi is more or less putting a finishing torch on his(soludo) work. again apart from d nomenclature tell me any other aspect of this banking system that is against the christian faith.

Islamic banking is a banking system that will not finance gambling, casinos, brewery, will not involve in money laundry, will not finance pornography and many others. this is what the bible is also against so why are we fighting over name. sanusi said  it can now be called universal banking in the Nigerian concept every other form banking as we already have will still be there.  Brothers lets be wise, the bible says 'my people perish for lack of knowledge'
an adage in my place says if "If the king lift up the stick then those in his cabinet will commit  murder " The pastor is wrong in his statement, i think he should be teaching those graduating how to be a good ambassadors of this great country not poisoning their hearts and cooking up war. youth lets be wise the future of this country is in our hands.
Re: CAN Plans Christian Banking After Swedish Model by sampeter(m): 8:00am On Aug 30, 2011
It will interest you to know that many guys who are against the pastor's speech are not Muslims. in fact i have a worship song playing on my system as i write, i am a believed christian and so are other. stop throwing stone to d Muslims brothers, now answer these questions: is prof. soludo a Muslim? i ask because he is the one who started the work on non interest bank.(Islamic banking) sanusi is more or less putting a finishing torch on his(soludo) work. again apart from d nomenclature tell me any other aspect of this banking system that is against the christian faith.

Islamic banking is a banking system that will not finance gambling, casinos, brewery, will not involve in money laundry, will not finance Indecency and many others. this is what the bible is also against so why are we fighting over name. sanusi said it can now be called universal banking in the Nigerian concept every other form banking as we already have will still be there. Brothers lets be wise, the bible says 'my people perish for lack of knowledge'
an adage in my place says if "If the king lift up the stick then those in his cabinet will commit murder " The pastor is wrong in his statement, i think he should be teaching those graduating how to be a good ambassadors of this great country not poisoning their hearts and cooking up war. youth lets be wise the future of this country is in our hands.


@ Edygo, don't be a simpleton. If truly you are a christian, are u aware the bible warned against simplicity. U need to study the model well and understand the nitty gritty of the framework. O.k, until Nigeria is islamised u won't care(thats truly if u are a xtian as u claimed). BTW, CBN act forbids establishing bank along religion nomenclature and doctrine, what about that? Don't u kno its another Pandora box? lets fight corruption and mismanagement and the 'detractors' and Nigeria ll be good!
Re: CAN Plans Christian Banking After Swedish Model by Edygo: 3:59am On Aug 31, 2011
Sampeter thank you.
Re: CAN Plans Christian Banking After Swedish Model by page9(m): 11:09pm On Sep 01, 2011
As a muslim, I. read most comments to entertain myself because some people will never b objective simply because they have been brain-washed.
It is therefore a waste of time trying to convince such pple on d internet except perhaps one on one

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