OLAADEGBU:
"Was the name Jehovah removed from the New Testament? New Testament Manuscripts"

Another article about answering Jehovah's witnesses on this issue found at this link:

http://ow.ly/nZ6b50M7U23

OLAADEGBU:


The New World Translation (the Bible produced and used by Jehovah's Witnesses) contains the name Jehovah in the New Testament although not a single Greek manuscript nor even an early translation contains it.¹ Regarding this practice, they explain:

"In deciding to do this, the translators took into consideration two important factors: (1) The Greek manuscripts we possess today are not the originals. Of the thousands of copies in existence today, most were made at least two centuries after the originals were composed. (2) By that time, those copying the manuscripts either replaced the Tetragrammaton with Kyʹri·os, the Greek word for "Lord," or they copied from manuscripts where this had already been done."²

These claims, however, are either misleading or do not hold up to scrutiny:

http://ow.ly/nZ6b50M7U23

OLAADEGBU:


"Was the name Jehovah removed from the New Testament? New Testament Manuscripts"

Another article about answering Jehovah's witnesses on this issue found at this link:

http://ow.ly/nZ6b50M7U23

OLAADEGBU:


"Was the name Jehovah removed from the New Testament? Does it matter?"

Explore this issue at: http://ow.ly/K1PX50M7TYX

OLAADEGBU:


The New World Translation (the Bible produced and used by Jehovah's Witnesses) contains the name Jehovah in the New Testament although not a single Greek manuscript nor even an early translation contains it.¹ Regarding this practice, they explain:

"In deciding to do this, the translators took into consideration two important factors: (1) The Greek manuscripts we possess today are not the originals. Of the thousands of copies in existence today, most were made at least two centuries after the originals were composed. (2) By that time, those copying the manuscripts either replaced the Tetragrammaton with Kyʹri·os, the Greek word for "Lord," or they copied from manuscripts where this had already been done."²

These claims, however, are either misleading or do not hold up to scrutiny:

http://ow.ly/nZ6b50M7U23

OLAADEGBU:


1. We don't have the originals of the New Testament, and most of our copies come from more than two centuries after the New Testament was written: While this statement is technically true, it doesn't actually say anything useful to the discussion.

In fact, it barely says anything meaningful at all! The New Testament has been copied non-stop for almost 2,000 years. We're still copying it today. Of course, most of our copies come from after the first 200 years. How could they possibly have made more copies in just the first two centuries than people would be able to make over the next eighteen centuries? It's just common sense that most copies would come later.

The fact is, however, that the New Testament was written in the mid-to-late first century AD, and by the end of the third century AD (or within just over 200 years of the time of the New Testament writers), we have surviving manuscripts from almost every book in the New Testament.³

For many New Testament books we have quite a few! For example, we have 16 manuscripts of the Gospel of John within that time-frame, and for Matthew, we have 12!⁴ When dealing with literature so ancient, this is a vast wealth of early testimony. There are also a fairly large number of other Christian writings whose earliest manuscripts date back that far.⁵ Many of these manuscripts contain quotes from the New Testament, adding even more confirmation of what the original text said. The truth is that we have diverse examples of the New Testament text from very early on, and they all use the Greek word "Kurios" rather than the proper name YHWH. We never once find Jehovah in the New Testament.

http://ow.ly/nZ6b50M7U23

Janosky:


The same man , the OP, OLAADEGBU, go enter kumuyi business centre dey sing their hymn:
"Guide me O Great Jehovah".

OLAADEGBU why ?

OLAADEGBU:
2. Those copying the manuscripts changed the name YHWH into the Greek word "Kurios" or "Lord":

Let's consider what this claim would require.

Remember that each of the New Testament books was written at a different time and place and sent to different people. They were not all being copied by the same people at the same time. Our various copies were produced by a variety of people in a variety of places. We even have very early translations into other languages. The same is true for the other Christian documents that quote the New Testament and that display the same practice of using the title Lord rather than the name YHWH. It is entirely beyond credulity that all of these various scribes in various places (and even speaking various languages) coordinated to systematically remove the name of God from all of these books wherever they were being copied, and successfully did so in such a way that no evidence was left behind. Not even a single Christian writer remembered what any of these books used to say nor managed to keep and reproduce an older copy. Those would have to be some powerful scribes! But there's more.

These scribes would also have to convince every Christian everywhere to stop using the name YHWH and to replace it with the word "Lord" in all their own writings. Not only that, they would have to have changed the documents, practices, and memories of all of the heretical offshoots of Christianity as well, like the Gnostics whose early manuscripts also survive. This apparently universally powerful network of scribes would have to do this everywhere and leave no evidence behind. Their power would have to transcend political boundaries, reaching lands under Roman rule, the Persian Empire, and into smaller, independent kingdoms. This would require a literal miracle!

What's more, if one does accept such a grand conspiracy theory, they have to give up the reliability of the New Testament entirely. It doesn't prove the accuracy of putting the word Jehovah in the New Testament. Instead, it undermines the New Testament entirely! If all the writings and memories of all the Christians throughout the ancient world could be so completely altered without leaving a shred of evidence behind, who knows what else such an authoritarian scribal network changed! No word or phrase is safe. The whole New Testament tradition is potentially compromised. Fortunately, such a conspiracy theory is utterly impossible. The evidence is too early and too numerous.

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OLAADEGBU:


In conclusion, the New Testament documents are quite reliably preserved and are attested by extremely early manuscripts and quotations in multiple languages and locations. There is no reason to doubt the manner in which they have come down to us, even regarding the names and titles used for God the Father and our Lord Jesus Christ. The Jehovah’s Witnesses and the New World Translation are simply wrong on this point.

Is the new testament manuscripts available now, the same copy available in the time of Jesus Christ and the disciples?

Kumuyi slave, carry your Mumu WAILING go offline.

TradingGod:
LORD JESUS THE FATHER OF KNOWLEDGE IS JEHOVAH

OLAADEGBU:
"Was the name Jehovah removed from the New Testament? Modern Scholars"

JWs defend this thesis by appealing to scholars who supposedly agree with them: http://ow.ly/ypJF50MjGao

Why is יְהוָ֥ה ׀ (Yah·weh) the Tetragramatton (God's name) in Deuteronomy 6:4 missing from Jesus quote from the old Testament @ Mark 12:29?

Why is יְהוָ֥ה ׀ (Yah·weh) the Tetragramatton (God's name) in Deuteronomy 6:13 missing from Jesus quote from the old Testament @ Matthew 4:10?

Because the [b]nameיְהוָ֥ה ׀ (Yah·weh) in the old Testament was removed in the New Testament.
Kumuyi slave deceiving himself.

TradingGod:
LORD JESUS THE FATHER OF KNOWLEDGE IS JEHOVAH

Kobojunkie:
You are wrong! YHWH is the name that God instead attached to His Old Covenant Law of Moses -- the National Constitution of the State of Israel in the Land of Canaan -- which He, God, gave to the people of Israel as God of Israel.

Janosky:

John 20:17, Matthew 27:46 & Revelation 3:12, in heaven and earth, Jesus Christ said you were LYING.

TradingGod:
■the spirit behind YHWH, is the same spirit behind Lord Jesus the most High
■GOD = JESUS = YHWH = JEHOVAH = HOLY SPIRIT
■It's like Buhari being seen as a president to nigeirans, as a father to his kids, as a husband to his wife and as a son to his parent at the end of the day the title, president, father, husband and son belong to one name called Buhari. Hope you get it now?

TradingGod:
is Jesus the same God that divided the red sea?

Kobojunkie:
Nope!
https://www.nairaland.com/7110397/gospel-minddump#112519360

So, don't assume these things but instead let that which is infact written lead you to the understanding of Him which you need. In other words, let scripture speak for itself.

TradingGod:
■Jesus is the Soul of God, that soul contains The FULL Elements of Yahweh
■Which makes Him Yahweh in Flesh

Kobojunkie:
1. Spirit behind?

2. This is wrong!

3. Never assume these things. Jesus Christ made it clear in His Gospel that He is not the Father, nor is He Yahweh, He however lived His life in submission and obedience of the Old Law.

Kobojunkie:
1. Where is it written that Jesus Christ is the soul of God? Again, rather than insert your personal opinions into scripture, instead allow scripture--- taken in context of course-- guide you to an understanding.

2. This is unscriptural and a flawed conclusion on your part.

TradingGod:
■ The spirit of God is the power behind everything you see today. It's the Spirit that roam the face of the deep in the beginning and its the same Spirit that spoke to Moses. It's that same Spirit that spoke to David. It's that same Spirit that came to earth in flesh as Jesus Christ. That same Spirit is called HOLY SPIRIT. It's that Same Holy Spirit that is everywhere, its that Holy Spirit that makes God to be omnipresence, It's that same Holy Spirit that makes God to be omniscient And it's that same Holy Spirit that makes God to be omnipotent. It's that same Holy Spirit that makes God to be righteous. That same Holy Spirit came down as a cloud in mount sanai and the children of isreal were afraid to climb up the mountain to see HIM. it's that same Holy Spirit that quicken the dead
■ We know that Holy Spirit as God, Yhwh, Jehovah, Jesus Christ because that is how He want to reveal Himself to us at a particular dispensation. For example david never knew Him as Jesus Christ, but we in this dispensation see Him as Jesus Christ that took our sins and gave us His very own Life (Holy Spirit). The Spirit of God is God in HIS purest form. But when the spirit wanted to pay for the sins of mankind, that Spirit had to come as Jesus Christ to die for mankind sins
■ The reason this Holy spirit came was so that man can also have this very Holy spirit in them as it was from the beginning . That is why the bible says that the human body is the temple of God. Your body becomes God own temple when that Same Holy Spirt from the beginning dwells in you.

TradingGod:
■ Jesus is the I AM that spoke with Moses. "I am the vine; you are the branches. If a man remains in me and I in him, he will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing.
■This is Jesus Christ talking about the Spirit of God dwelling in Man. Why will Jesus use I, when He is obviously reffering to the Holy Spirit here? 🙄

Kobojunkie:
1. But according to the teachings of Jesus Christ, not even Moses, nor John the baptist — the greatest/last of all the prophets — were on the Vine that is He— the Kingdom of God —, so?

2. This is not Jesus Christ at all but you attempting to add to that which is spoken by Him in scripture, a sin against God.