Desola:

Ogun? Why do I doubt that?

What does Ogun give back to Nigeria?

What I said about Ogun may not be true, at least right now. But I am starting to wonder about that state, especially with all the factories and business springing up there. Is the benefit and tax money from those factories and business going to Ogun State, or to the Nigerian FG? And if so, how does this compare to the oil allocations Ogun receives?

I don't know what the answer is.

How much oil does Edo currently produce? I thought it is negligible.

Abia, Imo and Anambra supposedly also produce oil, but negligible amounts, if I'm not mistaken.

ekt_bear:

How much oil does Edo currently produce? I thought it is negligible.

Abia, Imo and Anambra supposedly also produce oil, but negligible amounts, if I'm not mistaken.

anambra does not have oil i think but large deposits of gas(untapped)

Ah, my bad. I thought it produced some small amounts of oil too.

I wish there was a list of how much oil each state, heck, each LGA produces in this country. Or is this information available, but i'm just not looking in the right places. . . ?

asha 80:

anambra does not have oil i think but large deposits of gas(untapped)

Anambra has untapped deposits of oil and gas so stop thinking
Lagos could go the way Hong Kong did but it would lose as much as Nigerha would lose it

asha 80:

anambra does not have oil i think but large deposits of gas(untapped)

no anambra has crude oil

ekt_bear:

I wish there was a list of how much oil each state, heck, each LGA produces in this country. Or is this information available, but i'm just not looking in the right places. . . ?

i gave u a list of the oil produce in each state on the other thread,. it's been long tho

will get back

Yeske!:

Lagos could go the way Hong Kong did but it would lose as much as Nigerha would lose it

Nope lagos or nigeria would not lose anything actually

lagos is a self economy itself without extental help


Africa, Sub-Saharan

Rank City Country GDP in $ID BN Population (MIL)[16]
1 Johannesburg South Africa $ 110 3.670
2 Cape Town South Africa $ 103 3.405
3 East Rand South Africa $ 54 3.202
4 Lagos Nigeria $ 35 10.578
5 Luanda Angola $ 33 4.772

which is not bad but i know we can do better

this might sound foolish but where is the food going to come from

asha 80:

this might sound foolish but where is the food going to come from

majority of Nigeria foods comes from the North of Nigeria and some importation

while the rest is produced by the SW, SS and SE

ok, the op is the one opening a thread to ask about weddings in absentia.

seems there's much the poster doesnt know about nigeria, and needs to sit in the learner's seat, not the teacher's own.


if s/he isnt a know it all who refuses to learn?

alj_harem:

Nope lagos or nigeria would not lose anything actually

lagos is a self economy itself without extental help


Africa, Sub-Saharan

Rank   City Country GDP in $ID BN Population (MIL)[16]
1 Johannesburg South Africa $ 110 3.670
2 Cape Town South Africa $ 103 3.405
3 East Rand South Africa $ 54   3.202
4 Lagos           Nigeria        $ 35                 10.578
5 Luanda           Angola       $ 33           4.772

which is not bad but i know we can do better

Before stating otherwise, have you critically analysed the interdependence of both economies? Not all about GDP figures my friend

ekt_bear:

I wish there was a list of how much oil each state, heck, each LGA produces in this country. Or is this information available, but i'm just not looking in the right places. . . ?

I can get u state by state but LGA is too hard to get

Ok this is what i have

Now nigeria produes 2.1 million barrels of oil every day although this is according to 2010 report

http://allafrica.com/stories/201006160472.html


Now river state website claims 40 % of the oil  which is about 0.84 million

delta state website claims 35 % of the oil which is about 0.68 million

http://www.ngex.com/nigeria/places/states/rivers.htm
http://www.nigeriagalleria.com/Nigeria/States_Nigeria/Delta_State.html

then we have 25% left and we have 10 more states which are anambra, imo, abia, lagos, ogun, ondo, akwa ibom, cross river, edo, bayelsa

We keep talking about oil, but oil is becoming a bit old school with the ongoing rejigging of the petroleum industry. Gas is the new kid on the block, it will generate 7 times more money per annum than is possible from oil (thats why its called the gas revolution).

The major gas states are Delta, Bayelsa and Anambra. Those three states will likely dwarf Lagos in the next few years (especially with the dredging of the Niger and the North-South trade that will encourage, transportation from local ports would be really cheap).

Beaf:

We keep talking about oil, but oil is becoming a bit old school with the ongoing rejigging of the petroleum industry. Gas is the new kid on the block, it will generate 7 times more money per annum than is possible from oil (thats why its called the gas revolution).

The major gas states are Delta, Bayelsa and Anambra. Those three states will likely dwarf Lagos in the next few years.

only if the funds are used well

Yeske!:

Before stating otherwise, have you critically analysed the interdependence of both economies? Not all about GDP figures my friend

Yeske!:

Before stating otherwise, have you critically analysed the interdependence of both economies? Not all about GDP figures my friend

Oh ok

lagos is 35 billion dollars (BN)

Nigeria as a country is 217 billion dollars

now minus lagos in that 182 billion dollars

yeah i that they can both survive

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)

asha 80:

only if the funds are used well

Of course, there will be corruption. Thats Nigeria's bane, however the sums that are coming in are already absolutely staggering. Bruv, it is practically impossible not to see Delta, Bayelsa and Anambra as Nigeria's future industrial hub. Lagos too is going to get some of the gas investment, but not even nearly in the same league as the states I mentioned.

Delta is getting the first shot with 16$billion to build Africa's biggest industrial park at Koko. The money is coming from Chevron and other Western oil coys, Saudi and Indian companies; land has been marked out and inspected.
Off my head, 16$billion is about 60% of Nigeria's 2011 budget, thats massive for a single state and just for the Koko Export Free Zone (approved by the FG); in the meantime approval is still being sought for the Warri Export Free Zone. Big tingz a gwan!

EGorrila asking the United nation to use military action is not term instigate any foreigner to make any armed invasion of Nigeria or of any of the territories thereof; and manifests such intention by an overt act, is guilty of a felony and is liable to imprisonment for life


The United nation is not a foreigner on nigeria soil. The United nation is the apex body of the world. The united nation military action include peace keeping. And the United nation peace keepers are members of the army.

When did nigerian write this constitution. Never.

GAR3TH:

But you guys have to remember that 1/3 of nigeria's oil fields are found offshore in federal waters and about 3/4 of nigeria's Gas field are also found offshore in Federal waters. Some as far as 800 Miles of the coast.

The concept of federal waters is nonsensical in international law, it is based on a very faulty Supreme court judgement which will be overthrown easily in due time. The offshore wells legally belong to the littoral states namely Delta, Akwa Ibom, Bayelsa, Cross River, Edo, Ogun, Ondo, and Rivers.

Don't be mistaken, Abia and Imo produce oil howeve a substaintial amount o fit is untapped. Anambra however produces little oil but has large amounts of natural gas and mineral resources.

@Topic:

Lagos cannot secede because it simply does not thave the resources.
1) A sizeable and well-armed military will be needed to persuade the Nigerian armed forces that a fight for Lagos would be costly both in human terms and natural.
2) Lagos cannot feed itself. With over 17 million people, Lagos needs a steady supply of food and water from mainland Nigeria, and if the sea is blockaded, then Lagosians will starve.
3) Lagos is simply too large a city to survive on its own. Most of the city-states that declare independence are small with populations ranging from 500-3 million (Look at Luxembourg, San Marino, and the Papal States). People require a constant supply of food, water, shelter and entertainment. However Lagos does have a large port system, its not large enough to accomodate to the needs of all of those people.

Lagos standing alone is a big fallacy.who are those to claim citizenry. you end up creating a country where foreigners rule and isn't that something Africans don't take likely? Lagos needs Nigeria a lot. the present Lagos is a tax collecting Lagos, imagine a sovereign Lagos, with no PDP to act as the bad party, ACN will just be another bureaucracy in a democracy, probably worse than PDP? A sovereign Lagos is sure to fail. lest I forget, Lagos will move to one of the highest importers of food if given independent. There will be no oil subsidy. Funny enough Lagos is quite poor when it comes to workers' welfare. I can't imagine the strike.

Tabloids will read thus:

NEW NATION IN A BIG MESS

FUEL PRICES ESCALATES AS NIGERIA REFUSES TO SELL OIL TO INDEPENDENT LAGOS

WORKERS THREATEN TO STRIKE

OVERPOPULATION IS OUR MAJOR PROBLEM says INTERIOR MINISTER.

PEOPLE REFUSE TO LEAVE LAGOS


POLICE CLASH WITH LAGOS TRADERS, AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL COMPLAINS.
lastly,
LAGOSIANS VOTE TO RETURN TO NIGERIA.

and don't forget, there is still the big question: WHO ARE THE TRUE LAGOSIANS? Wouldn't this matter too?

One NIGERIA, please.

^
Dude, believe it or not; every single state in Nigeria can survive and thrive as a sovereign country without oil, gas or FG money. It only takes mental and physical application of the population as driven by its leadership.

Nigeria's current problems are primarily due to ethnic and religious bigotries, we are poor because of the almighty tug of war between those primitive forces (a battle that provides fertile ground for corruption to thrive).

Lagos would not survive without Nigeria.

1. All the import/ export  would be cease, because Nigeria would not allow her goods to be imported/ exported through another territory.

2. All the Oil companies would move, VI, lekki etc would become a desert, MTN, GLO etc and all other companies from other sectors would take off, banks would take off leaving only branches ( if at all)- because Nigeria cannot have the headquarters of her banks in another country.

3. The population in Lagos would reduce to close to 10% of what it is now- population disappearing = market disappearing, MMA would become a skeleton of its self.

4. Industries would relocate due to the cost of import duties they would have to pay to bring goods into Nigeria (smuggling no way).

Basically Lagos would be deserted, houses in VI would go for 50,000/year, yet no one would rent, in fact Lagos would become a desert (in population terms). . . . . . . . . . .

The Northern states we call deserts would even stand a better chance of survival- at least they have cash crops or meat or whatever agricultural produce they are into They can start from there. . . . . Lagos does not have oil and they have no forest again for agriculture (even if they wanted to go into it), neither do they have technology to sell.

Conclusively, BASED ON THE CONSTITUTION, LAGOS CANNOT DECLARE ITSELF A COUNTRY AND EVEN IT COULD, IT WOULD [b]NEVER [/b]TRY IT BECAUSE OF MY REASONS ABOVE and many more.

ladman:


Tabloids will read thus:

NEW NATION IN A BIG MESS

FUEL PRICES ESCALATES AS NIGERIA REFUSES TO SELL OIL TO INDEPENDENT LAGOS

WORKERS THREATEN TO STRIKE

OVERPOPULATION IS OUR MAJOR PROBLEM says INTERIOR MINISTER.

PEOPLE REFUSE TO LEAVE LAGOS


POLICE CLASH WITH LAGOS TRADERS, AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL COMPLAINS.
lastly,
LAGOSIANS VOTE TO RETURN TO NIGERIA.

and don't forget, there is still the big question: WHO ARE THE TRUE LAGOSIANS? Wouldn't this matter too?

One NIGERIA, please.

I beg to differ- people would scamper, even the Lagosians would run to Nigeria to find jobs. . . . . . . .what would happen to all the Engineers especially oil and gas related workforce, banks, telecom etc etc,

Beaf:

We keep talking about oil, but oil is becoming a bit old school with the ongoing rejigging of the petroleum industry. Gas is the new kid on the block, it will generate 7 times more money per annum than is possible from oil (thats why its called the gas revolution).

The major gas states are Delta, Bayelsa and Anambra. Those three states will likely dwarf Lagos in the next few years (especially with the dredging of the Niger and the North-South trade that will encourage, transportation from local ports would be really cheap).

hmm at 4.35 per mmbtu. i dont think so. maybe in 500 years

Very warped and misguided analysis,

1. Nigerian government is not the only or major exporter or importerin Nigeria. Majority of imports are done by private business, not the federal government. Business is all about making money and profits and thell go to where ever is best and cost effective to do business.

2. Oil companies relocating to Nigeria is absolutely irrelevant, it's very possible to rent a building in Abuja and call it their HQ while retaining their base of operation in lagos.

3. Lagos remains the business hub of west Africa not because of Nigeria, it's because of Lagos itself and lagosians.

4. Lagos shall remaing the entertainment capital of sub Africa simply because no state within Nigeria can replicate Lagos and it's soul.

5. Lagos is currently laying it's own power cables and building power plants to provide uninterrupted power supply, they also have their own electricity company.

6. Lagos will have uninterrupted power supply while Nigeria shal remain in darknes because of the same incompetent and corrupt people ruling Nigeria.

7. Because of uninterrupted power supply alone , business activitites will not only improve significantly, businesses within Nigeria will relocate to Lagos to enjoy uninterrupted power supply and save on diesel,  Meaning more tax revenue fir Lagos state. Coke moved to Ghana because of the power situation and I'm sure thell all move back.

8. You are wrong, Lagos have oil, they not only have everything you mentioned, they also have the most skilled and educated manpower in west Africa and that's what businesses look for. That you can not take away from lagos.

9.Lagos shall remain not only the play ground for Nigeria's rich and famous, Lagos will be the number one tourist, business and leisure destination for nigerians which means more tax revenue and influx of sustained cash within the lagos economy.

10. The best sea port  and airport shall remain in Lagos to be patronized by lagosians and nigerians in general with profits going to the Lagos state government and not Nigeria.

11. Right now, Lagos is moving fast ahead of Nigeria itself even with Nigeria pulling it back with national incompetency and lack of vision. Nigerians will never stop looking south to Lagos moving ahead while they remain in darkness and continue to deal with the same sad state of affairs and drama associated with Nigeria today. In fact, I see massive influx of humane and money into Lagos and not the other way around:

Lagos is always a safe and stable refuge for 250 tribes withing Nigeria for a reason and no single place in nigeria can duplicate lagos.

Lagos is a culture and way of life, not just a state or city within Nigeria.

thought:

Lagos would not survive without Nigeria.

1. All the import/ export  would be cease, because Nigeria would not allow her goods to be imported/ exported through another territory.

2. All the Oil companies would move, VI, lekki etc would become a desert, MTN, GLO etc and all other companies from other sectors would take off, banks would take off leaving only branches ( if at all)- because Nigeria cannot have the headquarters of her banks in another country.

3. The population in Lagos would reduce to close to 10% of what it is now- population disappearing = market disappearing, MMA would become a skeleton of its self.

4. Industries would relocate due to the cost of import duties they would have to pay to bring goods into Nigeria (smuggling no way).

Basically Lagos would be deserted, houses in VI would go for 50,000/year, yet no one would rent, in fact Lagos would become a desert (in population terms). . . . . . . . . . .

The Northern states we call deserts would even stand a better chance of survival- at least they have cash crops or meat or whatever agricultural produce they are into They can start from there. . . . . Lagos does not have oil and they have no forest again for agriculture (even if they wanted to go into it), neither do they have technology to sell.

Conclusively, BASED ON THE CONSTITUTION, LAGOS CANNOT DECLARE ITSELF A COUNTRY AND EVEN IT COULD, IT WOULD [b]NEVER [/b]TRY IT BECAUSE OF MY  REASONS ABOVE and many more. 

phuck_NL:

hmm at 4.35 per mmbtu. i dont think so. maybe in 500 years

Hehe

I just chuckled when I read that post. You won't get rich off of NG, let's put it that way. Great for electricity, fertilizer, etc. But by no means super-lucrative like petroleum.

At those who doubt Lagos's potential independent of Nigeria. . . honestly, it means that some of ya'll are overrating the hell out of Nigeria.

This isn't a country like the US which is more than the sum of its parts.

As I said earlier, electricity >>>> Nigeria.

Nigeria isn't really needed for Lagos's purposes. . . electricity is more important. The world is a big-@ss place, far bigger than Nigeria. And when you live by the sea, it isn't by force to interact with the interior.

its possible but some cow.ard are not prepared to go for such venture. They are prepared to dine with terrorist

Eyin ara eko emaa fi wa sile, nigeri si maa da
lagos ppl no commot ooo, naija go better