Ken4Christ:


It is true that the narration is contained in the gospel of Matthew alone but it is consistent with the scriptures.

The writer of Hebrews mentioned spirit of just men made perfect in heaven. How did they get there? - Hebrews 12:23.

Ken4Christ:


No one has ascended to heaven before Jesus came. But the day he ascended, the Saint of old ascended with him.

This is why the writer of Hebrews said in heaven, there are spirits of just men made perfect. How did they get there if they did not ascend?

Nah your claims of Acts1:9 get serious issues.
Nah you first other people enter Class & you sit down jejely .
Later the people wey you first them enter the Class, nah them dey the door to welcome you into the Class & take you inside wey you done sit down Tay tay .
Oga your claims make no sense.

Ken4Christ:


God is a spirit and the scripture says that he created us in his own image and likewise. Therefore, we are also spirit being.

Janosky:

It's the norm to have burial ground or cemetery in every town/city.
Massive earthquake split the ground (just like massive flood or tsunami throwing out corpses from the grave) after Jesus resurrected split up the ground & corpses of the dead were visible to passers-by going into the city from the earthquake damaged area.

It's NOT a resurrection of believers otherwise, Paul would have referenced it in 1 Corinthians 15:2-15 as proof of the resurrection when he referenced Jesus Christ Resurrection.

MaxInDHouse:

It's a vision that's why you can't answer thought provoking questions having to do with it! wink

Janosky:


No correlation of Hebrew 12:23 & Acts 1:9 nor Matthew 27:52-53.

Janosky:


Why would your cloud of witnesses be waiting to receive Jesus Christ who was first resurrected & ascended to heaven before anyone else?

The Cloud of Witnesses in Hebrew chapter 12 were the men & women of faith referenced in Hebrew chapter 11:1-39.

How many of them put faith in Jesus?
None!

Janosky:

It's the norm to have burial ground or cemetery in every town/city.
Massive earthquake split the ground (just like massive flood or tsunami throwing out corpses from the grave) after Jesus resurrected split up the ground & corpses of the dead were visible to passers-by going into the city from the earthquake damaged area.

It's NOT a resurrection of believers otherwise, Paul would have referenced it in 1 Corinthians 15:2-15 as proof of the resurrection when he referenced Jesus Christ Resurrection.

Ken4Christ:

Jesus had to lead them to the presence of the Father.

MaxInDHouse:
The only thing you have upstairs is the threat of this fairy HellFire stuff Bible you no know.

Well go out there and make disciples for your God with what you know!

Ken4Christ:

I want you also to embrace the gospel. Give your life to Christ and save yourself from the coming wrath of God.

MaxInDHouse:


Jesus never asked anyone to give their life to him because he's not the one and only true God to whom we must give exclusive devotion! Exodus 34:14
So i've given my life to JEHOVAH the father of Jesus and is also my father He is the God of Jesus and is also my God! John 20:17

Ken4Christ:

This is where you are missing it.
You can't have access to the Father except through Jesus.
You must believe in Jesus before you can be saved.
Even the very name, Jehovah Witness is not scriptural. You can't witness for someone you have not seen.
Jesus told his disciples that they will be his witness - Acts 1:8.
They were with him. They saw him when he died. And they saw him after his resurrection.
So, they are a living witness.
But, have you seen Jehovah before? If yes, when? If not, why are you witnessing for someone you have not seen.
You deny his Son and want to acknowledge his Father. It doesn't work that way.
The scripture says;
1st John 2:23.
Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

MaxInDHouse:
Did Jesus asked anyone to give his or her life to him?
NO!
It's by adhering to Jesus' teachings we can gain God's approval {Matthew 17:5} that's the truth not that Jesus is the one worshipers of God should dedicate their life to!

Ken4Christ:


I want you also to embrace the gospel. Give your life to Christ and save yourself from the coming wrath of God.

The coming wrath is 2 Thessalonians 1:8-9 & Matthew 24:37-39.

The judgement of Jesus Christ no concern your delusion of perpetual torture.

Ken4Christ:


You will never believe anything until you land in hell. You are possessed with the spirit of unbelief.

You will see clearly what the scripture says. You will reject it and make it say what it never said so it can agree with your pre conceived opinions.

Ken4Christ:

But he said that we should believe in him. Do you believe in Jesus?

Ken4Christ:


This is where you are missing it.

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Ken4Christ:


You can't have access to the Father except through Jesus.

You must believe in Jesus before you can be saved.

Even the very name, Jehovah Witness is not scriptural. You can't witness for someone you have not seen.
.

Ken4Christ:


Jesus told his disciples that they will be his witness - Acts 1:8.also.

John 7:16 & Acts 1:8 are the doctrine of Jehovah God the Father.
Acts 2:42 says people believe the teaching of the apostles, that doesn't change the truth that their teaching is the same doctrine of John 7:16.
Pastorpreneur, Go and learn.

Ken4Christ:


They were with him. They saw him when he died. And they saw him after his resurrection.

So, they are a living witness.

But, have you seen Jehovah before? If yes, when? If not, why are you witnessing for someone you have not seen.
.

Ken4Christ:


You deny his Son and want to acknowledge his Father. It doesn't work that way.

The scripture says;

1st John 2:23.
Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

Janosky:


Pastorpreneur keeps missing John 20:17 & John 9:4, until you worship the God of Jesus Christ, you are wasting your time.



Have you ever seen Jesus Christ?

Pastorpreneur WAILING, Matthew 12:15-18 & Isaiah 43:10, Jesus Christ is a servant of Jehovah.
John 20:17 & John 9:4 the words of Jesus are incontrovertible.


John 7:16 & Acts 1:8 are the doctrine of Jehovah God the Father.
Acts 2:42 says people believe the teaching of the apostles, that doesn't change the truth that their teaching is the same doctrine of John 7:16.
Pastorpreneur, Go and learn.


Pastorpreneur dey parrot Acts1:8, have pastorpreneur seen Jesus?
Oga,stop deceiving yourself.


You have confirmed JWs firm belief in the words of Jesus Christ @ John 20:17, 9:4 & 7:16.
You have nothing to do with Jesus until John 20:17, John9:4 & 7:16 guides your worship.

Oga,use your Bible to cure your delusion.

MaxInDHouse:


BELIEVE connotes TRUST, God said we should listen to what Jesus teaches {Matthew 17:5} because Jesus is teaching in the name of His father {John 17:6, 26 compare to Deuteronomy 18:18-19} so anyone meditating on what Jesus taught is a BELIEVER in Jesus because through such actions you're showing that Jesus is God's Son sent to redeem you.

So believing in Jesus doesn't mean giving ones life to him but TRUSTING in what Jesus taught which means acting on His words!

Janosky:

The difference between you and I,is Janosky embark on extensive research of the holy scriptures and post biblical fact whereas you, Pastorpreneur rely depends on the distortion and mistranslation of the KJV.

Your fellow 3 deities translators PROVEN to you that @ Psalm 9:17, KJV mistranslated "hell" instead of "the grave", since this Bible truth was PROVEN with evidence from your Bible, you refused to accept it.
But you continue WAILING louder and throwing tantrums.

Janosky:

The coming wrath is 2 Thessalonians 1:8-9 & Matthew 24:37-39.

The judgement of Jesus Christ no concern your delusion of perpetual torture.

Ken4Christ:


Jehovah Witness are professional liars. And all liars will have their part in the lake of fire. Continue your deception. It will not prevail against the church of Christ.

My reason for joy is this:
Pastorpreneur Could not refute Jesus words at John 9:4 & John 20:17, Jesus said himself is a worshipper of his God.

John 7:16 Jesus said himself is a messenger of his Father's doctrines.

Oga Pastorpreneur, did Jesus Christ lie @ John 20:17, John 9:4 & 7:16?

The Church of Jesus Christ is the church of John 20:17 & John 9:4 espoused by Jehovah's witnesses on this forum.

Oga Pastorpreneur no follow.

Ken4Christ:


Revelation 6:16-17
16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and FROM THE WRATH OF THE LAMB

17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand.

Repent or face the wrath of the lamb of God.

Ken4Christ:


Son of perdition. Continue to follow this evil cult known as Jehovah Witness. You will soon join Rutherford and Russell in hell.

Janosky:

Perdition means "destruction",Oga Pastorpreneur get your own Bible and confirm that.
"Destruction" is the same statement Jesus Christ referenced about Sodom Gomorrah, Luke 17:29.

Judas Iscariot "the son of destruction",is in your head suffering perpetual torture,Oga Pastorpreneur nah your own problem be that, not holy scriptures.

Janosky:


Did Revelation 6:16-17 say hellfire "fall on us" & torture us?

Oga Pastorpreneur,carry your delusion outta here.

Janosky:


My reason for joy is this:
Pastorpreneur Could not refute Jesus words at John 9:4 & John 20:17, Jesus said himself is a worshipper of his God.

John 7:16 Jesus said himself is a messenger of his Father's doctrines.

Oga Pastorpreneur, did Jesus Christ lie @ John 20:17, John 9:4 & 7:16?

The Church of Jesus Christ is the church of John 20:17 & John 9:4 espoused by Jehovah's witnesses on this forum.

Oga Pastorpreneur no follow.

Janosky:

Your fellow 3 deities translators

Ken4Christ:

And Jesus said we should believe in him. I repeat again, do you believe in Jesus.
If you don't believe in him, you will perish.
You will remember all these posts in hell and tell yourself that you must have been very foolish.

MaxInDHouse:
If you're not crazy as in really mad how do you expect someone to be talking so convincingly about Jesus and his teachings yet you're stupidly asking if such a person believes in what he is preaching and teaching everyday?

Guy you dey Colo!

Ken4Christ:

You still haven't answered my question.
Do you believe in Jesus? Yes or No.
Are you afraid to say yes because it will be against your doctrine?

MaxInDHouse:
What did Jesus preached and taught during his life and ministry ?
Find out first then come back and ask me about faith in Jesus.
Your stupidity may be chronic but it aren't infectious so use your brain!