Steve Biko. A man way ahead of his time who understood what needed to be done. Reaching for greater virtues above self centeredness, division and hate. I love intellectual people who can remove emotion from conversation and learn to think deeply about what a country must do to move past racial, ethnic and tribal society in order to achieve true progress. Please honor this man's memory and buy his book. A true Visionary not a doomsday prophet.


Oh by the way . F*@$K LOUIS FARRAKHAN.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=6ZHDPTE4TXk

morpheus24:

Steve Biko. A man way ahead of his time who understood what needed to be done. Reaching for greater virtues above self centeredness, division and hate. I love intellectual people who can remove emotion from conversation and learn to think deeply about what a country must do to move past racial, ethnic and tribal society in order to achieve true progress. Please honor this man's memory and buy his book. A true Visionary not a doomsday prophet.


Oh by the way . F*@$K LOUIS FARRAKHAN.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=6ZHDPTE4TXk

Steve Biko - wow! Well, he left 5 children and Hlumelo Biko is doing very well - he's a Steve Biko of the Corporate world. You have not explained your title, why do you despise Mr FARRAKHAN?

nolongTing:

Steve Biko - wow! Well, he left 5 children and Hlumelo Biko is doing very well - he's a Steve Biko of the Corporate world. You have not explained your title, why do you despise Mr FARRAKHAN?

the title is a gimmick to lure you. On the other hand my views on Mr farrakhan have always been clear. The dude appeals to your emotions and stares up your blood in the hopes that his gibberish will cloud your judgement into analyzing matters from a non- intelletual point of view which history shows will never exert true transformation or change in people. A stroking of their manhoods is about all that nonsense will achieve in the short term.

Mr Biko on the other hand in  " I write what I like" fully analyzes and charts a path forward for his country. One in which he reaches for the higher virtues that man possess, one that will continue to prove the greater of the two philosophies that each man presents for one is simply a flex of masculinity and doomsday propaganda while the other is set by true visionary who's prophecy's have come to pass.

Ps i have no idea what you mean in refernce to "corporate world" as regards Biko's manifesto fo the black conciousness movement?

morpheus24:

the title is a gimmick to lure you. On the other hand my views on Mr farrakhan have always been clear. The dude appeals to your emotions and stares up your blood in the hopes that his gibberish will cloud your judgement into analyzing matters from a non- intelletual point of view which history shows will never exert true transformation or change in people. A stroking of their manhoods is about all that nonsense will achieve in the short term.

Mr Biko on the other hand in  " I write what I like" fully analyzes and charts a path forward for his country. One in which he reaches for the higher virtues that man possess, one that will continue to prove the greater of the two philosophies that each man presents for one is simply a flex of masculinity and doomsday propaganda while the other is set by true visionary who's prophecy's have come to pass.

Ps i have no idea what you mean in refernce to "corporate world" as regards Biko's manifesto fo the black conciousness movement?

Well, it did get my attention.  I can see what you mean by the emotional militant crap with no REALISTIC strategy; I think that malcolm x noticed that a bit too late.  Louis Farrakhan's million man march was absolutely shambolic! If anything he made white people richer that day.  Can you imagine how much they made from selling refreshments, transport, hotels and live tv advertising?  He was close to Sudan while the killing in Darfur was going on too.

I am not an expert on Biko, but I was referring to his son Hlumelo Biko's success in the corporate world

nolongTing:

Well, it did get my attention.  I can see what you mean by the emotional militant crap with no REALISTIC strategy; I think that malcolm x noticed that a bit too late.  Louis Farrakhan's million man march was absolutely shambolic! If anything he made white people richer that day.  Can you imagine how much they made from selling refreshments, transport, hotels and live tv advertising?  He was close to Sudan while the killing in Darfur was going on too.

I am not an expert on Biko, but I was referring to his son Hlumelo Biko's success in the corporate world

The bolded part was very unfortunate for Malcolm. In the end though, he was redeemed and got tha hell out of that organization.

Morpheus

I have no idea why all of a sudden Biko has become one of your heroes - you support everything that this man hated.

Biko did not beleive in capitalism which you are a staunch supporter of, he wanted a total and complete overhaul of the aparthied structure because of the inequalities it had created and advocated socialism - but you are an advocate of free market capitalism, neo liberalism and privatisation.

Biko hated the way blacks had been degraded in their own land and recognised that it was due to 300 years of "deliberate denigration and oppression - you on the other hand do not even admit that racism exists and instead claim that these are excuses used by blacks to make up for the failures in their lives.

Biko beleived in black consciousness - you dismiss it as black power garbage - it is for this very reason that you criticise farrakhan.

You are not mentally, psychologically or politically aware of the black struggle against white supremacy - you actually stated on one thread that america is not an imperialist nation and that imperialism does not exist!!!

How then can you make such a gigantic u turn and start claiming to be a fan of  Steve Biko who was one of the most vociferous critics of imperialism and racism ??

On numerous occasions you have referred to black nationalism as extremist and yet, and yet here you are getting excited over a man who had this to say about racism and oppression:

"The logic behind white domination is to prepare the black man for the subservient role in this country. Not so long ago this used to be freely said in parliament, even about the educational system of the black people. It is still said even today, although in a much more sophisticated language. To a large extent the evil-doers have succeeded in producing at the output end of their machine a kind of black man who is man only in form. This is the extent to which the process of dehumanization has advanced.”


or this:


"The basic tenet of black consciousness is that the black man must reject all value systems that seek to make him a foreigner in the country of his birth and reduce his basic human dignity."

when i read the above quote it reminded me of your desperate attempts to defend the ongoing economic rape of africa by the international financial institutions and multinationals.

I think it is quite obvious that Biko was a man who very clearly understood what white supremacy was and sought to fight and expose it, you on the other hand DENY that it exists and yet you are now seeking to allign yourself with a man who shared the same ideology with Louis Farrakhan - a man you abuse out of pure ignorance.

YOU ARE VERY VERY MUDDLED IN YOUR THINKING, MAKE UP YOUR MIND AS TO WHETHER YOU WANT TO REMAIN  A MAN IN FORM ONLY OR A PROUD BLACK MAN WITH A DEEP UNDERSTANDING AND APPRECIATION OF THE BLACK STRUGGLE AGAINST WHITE SUPREMACY!!!!!!

Oh and by the way morpheus - F.CK you - Farrakhan is here to stay, he has many loyal followers and is a well respected black nationalist, intellectual and leader in the african american community - you on the other hand are

THE GREAT MAN HIMSELF!!!!!!


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@Cap28

Couldn't resist could you.

I am not really gonna go into jibba jabba's with you. we've done that quite well enough to know we don't stand on the same lines so stop trying to convince anyone of your version of the truth by accusations of John Kerry like "flip flops"

What you take from Biko is completely different from what I take away from him.  A true black nationalist and I stress NATIONALIST (i.e believing in a one nation, one people including Afrikaans people) is very different from a black manhood pumping, extremist fake religion, fake ideology forming, kill his own black brother, power seeking, down with the white man troglodyte.

I understand though it is quite easy to misconstrue "black extremism" propaganda as black nationalist movements.

What Biko spoke about in regards to black conciousness was a mental awakening of africans in understanding the systems they were being held under and to realize they were all a farce. Systems of oppression and subjugation disguised in in economic, political and social theology . [b]Capitalism is a conseqence of that system of thought and not a cause of it.[/b]Biko never condenmed Capitalist ideologies only in as far as understanding that its practice in Apatheid south africa would prove inefficient in resolving wealth distribution issues.  I dare say he understood its short comings in its application in Apatheid SA. There is a difference my dear boy

I am not for or against capitalist anymore than I am for or against  socialism in as much as I understand the intricacies of each systems strenghts and weaknessess. Please don't mistake that for confusion. Framing these economic systems in terms of "white" and "black" is uneducated and it would be better to just say you don't comprehend people who think like me and go on about your militant life.

There is a stark difference between a 'black" free thinker and a black extremist thinker. One is bound by ideology, the other is bound by NOTHING. One believes the answer lies somewhere at the exteme of ideologies the other understands the answers lie somewhere in the muddled middle of things.

Clear enough for you now!!!

cap28:

Oh and by the way morpheus - F.CK you - Farrakhan is here to stay, he has many loyal followers and is a well respected black nationalist, intellectual and leader in the african american community - you on the other hand are

Thats as far as his gibberish will go, the AA community and maybe a few blind followers like yourself. True transformers of minds lie in people like Malcolm X, Biko and Mandela who are men who trascend their times and will continue to do so.

Mr Farrakhan will be a character in history books for you and my kids reference on the black extremist and islamic extremist section,his legacy will die when he does.

"Ps it would better serve you and us to go find out what you can do about the police brutality your people are suffering from everyday on the streets of Naija instead of trying to convince us of your loyalty to "black' people by singing praises of a fool who hasn't worked one day in his life yet is able to enjoy all the pleasures a developed nation offers its citizens.

I am sure you can fumble out some wild reason how these acts by police are the acts of a conspiracy boogey "whitemen' to keep your people under tyranny. Great black conscious movement fighter who lives in England.

^^^^^

YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND ANYTHING ABOUT BLACK NATIONALISM BECAUSE YOU ARE A BRAINWASHED HOUSE NEGRO, ALL YOU DO IS MAKE EXCUSES FOR THE TYRANNY OF YOUR OPPRESSOR - GET OFF YOUR F.CKING KNEES AND LEARN TO BE A PROUD BLACK MAN NOT AN APOLOGIST FOR WHITE SUPREMACY.

Biko found black men like you totally repugnant - thats why he described them as men in form only - he was talking about you.

Ever since i have debated with you all you have ever done is defend capitalism, defend privatisation, defend the free market - policies which have brought africa to its knees - every free thinking black man knows that capitalism is destroying the world but you think its the best thing ever invented by your white master - Biko wanted aparthied south africa to redistribute the wealth it had stolen - when i debated this issue with you you defended the white minority and said they had every right to hold on to their stolen wealth, remember?  YOU ARE A LIAR AND A TRAITOR TO THE BLACK RACE - YOU HAVE NO SENSE OF BLACK PRIDE.

Capitalism is not a consequence of racism - capitalism CREATES racism - capitalism enables those who own the means of production to control the lives of those who produce wealth, it allows a small powerful elite to exploit and hoard wealth and divide people along racial lines - the slave traders in america used their wealth to consolidate themselves in power and subjugate and oppress black african slaves, white south africans used their wealth and power to consolidate themselves while keeping black south africans in a position of permanent subjugation - this model has been repeated all over africa.


By the way black nationalism is about securing the interests of BLACK people first NOT black and white people - its about putting the well being and interests of blacks BEFORE the interests of any other race - THAT IS WHAT THE WHITE RACE DOES AND THAT IS WHY THEY ARE SO POWERFUL.  Only brainwashed blacks talk about including people of other races, why didnt the chinese talk about integrating with europeans in order to develop as a people?  

you are so far gone that whenever a proud black person speaks out about the necessity to unite and develop as one people you call it "black extremism" - thats a sign of inferiority and subservience to the white man's social conditioning.

Biko saw capitalism as a form of white supremacy whose aim was to keep black south africans in perpetual mental and economic bondage  and he railed against it  and advocated WEALTH REDISTRIBUTION OR SOCIALISM - capitalism EVERYWHERE IN THE WORLD creates inequality not just in south africa but that is not the only reason why biko rejected it - his major reason for rejecting it was because of the evil that manifests from it - this is something that you are yet to understand because you have been brow beaten by the white man's educational system to think that it is the only viable economic model to follow - this is why you defend it even though you are a victim of it.
I can see taht you are now backpedalling and have now resorted to denying that you are an apologist of capitalism - what a shame!

i can also see taht you are trying to make things up as you go along - what is a black free thinker?

is that your own way of saying you dont know what you are talking about?

what ideology binds a black free thinker - can you define what that ideology is?

what do you term black extremism and why?

on the one hand you say black extremism is not based on anything  then you confuse yourself further by saying that the black extremist beleives that the answer lies at the extreme point of an ideology? what on earth are you talking about.

the truth of the matter is this - black nationalism is an ideology based on the ability of the black man to have total control over his destiny which means control over his own politics, education, entertainment, employment, food, law and order, religion, media and defence - once the black man is able to totally control all of those things he is no longer a slave and a pawn in the hands of other races - the white race have total control over all of these things thats why they are in a position of power, the black man has no control over any of those things thats why he is under the heel of the white man - but in your book a black man having control over his own destiny equates to BLACK EXTREMISM - do you see why i call you an uncle tom??

GET UP OFF YOUR KNEES TOM AND GROW A PAIR OF BALLS!!!

@cap28 Morpehus is a lost brother caught up in the labyrinth of academia, he will come home soon but with time as much as i respect Louis Farrakhan he has made his mistakes with Malcom X and Khalid muhammed but no one's perfect the main thing here is dont blame the teacher or preacher, did u get the farking message.

^^@Cap28

Oh yeah by the way speaking of balls, while you are on farrakhan's tell that old fart to move all AA's back to Africa and get the hell out that capitalist system he and his cronies are enjoying. In the name of black nationalism, he needs to get outta being behind enemy line and back home so we can offer him some real authentic egusi soup and pounded Yam

Stop trying to pull the South African to your extremist militant propaganda side. Biko evisioned a multiracial society in south africa, one which adopted a one man one vote majority rule. A man wise enough to understand that the system and not the color of any South africans skin was what was destroying the true creation of an all inclusive nation state.

keep yapping your mouth about your pseudo definitions of what those crazy books you read have defined "black nationalism", House negros, traitors, apologists  and Black liberation theology as. You will never win this war of the minds that you think you are waging because you lack the most key element that is required to win it. And no I will not tell you what it is. will give you a hint though, get of your kebab eating azz and go somewhere where you can be of use.

Ps you are not the first knuckle head militant ho-bo I have met neither will you be the last. Keep waiting for the fall of this boogey man named 'White imperialist capitalist rule'. Neither you nor Farrakhan will be any bit the catalysts that abring about its downfall. Why because your kind are part of the problem. Willing participants of the same system, you so despise.  Warped oppressed minds that conjure up all sorts of nonsense to decieve more people into thinking you have come to some epiphany and discovered the solution to black peoples political , economic and social problems ,ready to lead  them into some imagined utopia that will set you up as leaders of a new movement. Please go sell some young  fool that bullshit .

If you are any true learned student of history you will see that yours is a loosing battle and all you are doing is yapping your big mouth in your 400 sqaure foot aparment behind enemy lines. A place you will stay in, playing puppet politics crying about the sorrows of people you have never met and will probably never meet nor will you be able to change their lives Thats the real coward my dear boy.

We can do this dance forever. I am game

stmarc32:

@cap28 Morpehus is a lost brother caught up in the labyrinth of academia, he will come home soon but with time as much as i respect Louis Farrakhan he has made his mistakes with Malcom X and Khalid muhammed but no one's perfect the main thing here is dont blame the teacher or preacher, did u get the farking message.

My dear stmarc32, academia is but a small component necessary in discovering the freedom required to think outside of enclosed boxes created by men like farrakhan. Men create boundaries around themselves to help them make sense of the world so they don't go crazy or so they can manipulate it

To be lost in this madness is the true crime you wouldn't encourage any so called "black" man to engage in.

Morpheus says " Much like the matrix, Capitalism is a system. Within that system the rules can be bent, some of them can be broken. Eveything begins with choice"

FREE YOUR MIND!!

I beg to differ Morpheus, Freedom is a state of mind not something attained by assimilating to western ideologies, Capitalism(Greed) is one of them, the sooner you realize that the better because  it does not behoove any african country or its people to accept capitalism on its own without considering the socio-economic and political structure in place prior to the arrival of crackers.I'd be dammed to accept a model created and  imposed on africa by someone who had nothing but pillaging and looting in mind.

Africa has historically practiced communism and socialism because they are intrinsic and not extrinsic as purported by the West,In order for capitalism to work in africa it has to restructured to integrate some of our old values

You also fail to realize that the wish of almost all WHITES is to enslave and dominate  the african mentally,historically,  economically ,physically and spiritually,  Past and present actions around the world affirm  this.

Wake up , read and think while its still legal brother,

Long Live Honourable Louis farrakhan, I know everyone wants a perfect human being and Louis Farrakhan is not perfect but he is a good man and met him so many occasions.
Jesus Christ and Mohammed were never perfect and so i dont look at the bad sides of Louis Farrakhan but his intentions.

stmarc32:

I beg to differ Morpheus, Freedom is a state of mind not something attained by assimilating to western ideologies, Capitalism(Greed) is one of them, the sooner you realize that the better because  it does not behoove any african country or its people to accept capitalism on its own without considering the socio-economic and political structure in place prior to the arrival of crackers.I'd be dammed to accept a model created and  imposed on africa by someone who had nothing but pillaging and looting in mind.

Right right, lets spend all our time fighting the white mans evil "Capitalist system" why not. Its his invention so it must be evil. He came and pillaged, stole and from our ancestors, yadda yadda yadda. While we are at it lets invent all sorts of other weird philosophies about ourselves, like how this evil inventor named Dr. Yacub created this white man with no conscience and now his sole mission is to subjugate the black man and wipe him off the face of the earth

or how black people are the original israelites who were foretold to be enslaved in in foreign lands by edomites and now must re discover themselves and break free or maybe how a brutal ethiopian dictator is the reincarnation of The Christ who was black and our sole mission is to smoke ganja and sing reggae songs all day and disengage from the whiteman's system cause its all a set up to have us working as modern day slaves or maybe how our societies have always been in equilibrium wiht nature and now this 'system" that has been introduced to us is destroying our true way of life of which we must expel and revert back  to our chosen way of life. Heard it all before. The world doesn't evolve round black people's problems . That my friend is mental slavery.

Capitalism, communism and socialism are nothing but abstracts that have been given meaning that really are masks for the perpetration of  human beings most darkest natures, that will continue to exist even after the demise of these systems. Capitalism is not greed, Greed is greed. it has existed before capitalism, it will continue to exist in any system that you choose to accept. You fight an unwinnable battle. See the bigger picture and you are step towards mastering True 'free thought"

Moprheus says : Revolutions brings you bck to a point in a circle. Evolution is a leap forward. FREE YOUR MIND!!

deji.ariyo:

Long Live Honourable Louis farrakhan, I know everyone wants a perfect human being and Louis Farrakhan is not perfect but he is a good man and met him so many occasions.
Jesus Christ and Mohammed were never perfect and so i dont look at the bad sides of Louis Farrakhan but his intentions.

And what are his intentions, to fight the good fight against the "boogey" man so you can find excuses in life for your tribulations.

Morpheus,

I read your response to NLT on the question of why your despise of Mr Farrakhan.

I want to caution that in the global struggle for Black resurgence there are many at the forefront who sacrifice self and family to act as a shield of protection against insulting disrespect and threat of surbordination by rival races and Mr Farrakhan is one of those sentries gurading the gateway for us.

Mode of expression come in diverse styles. There are those who find their expression and voice in purely logical order and others who do so using a philosophical approach and yet we have others who must project their physicality forcefully in order to represent. The more we reduce everyone in our race to a narrow and single style of expression, in this case "logical", then the less acceptable it is for original ideas to spring forth for fear of being labeled and denigrated by people like you.

Most of the European philosophers we worship in our so called intellectual "corps de academia" were never educated themselves. Their knowledge were works of inspired thoughts and originality in metaphysical and occultism.

If Homer can be as great a man as he is held the world over, then I see no reason why Mr Farrakhan cannot be appreciated and revered for his wisdom and insights, particularly where his style and approach are crdited with proven and effective results favorable to those under the umbrella of his guardianship. He ought to be a model to others wishing for a "politically sacred" Black race.

Negro_Ntns:

Morpheus,

I read your response to NLT on the question of why your despise of Mr Farrakhan.

I want to caution that in the global struggle for Black resurgence there are many at the forefront who sacrifice self and family to act as a shield of protection against insulting disrespect and threat of surbordination by rival races and Mr Farrakhan is one of those sentries gurading the gateway for us.

I will credit him the above bolded, none the less a general who rallies his troops to war, in order to be successful, must do everything within his  POWER of reason to ensure that they are rallied in a consensus of an IDEOLOGY no matter how dangerously misleading it origins might be drawn from.

Negro_Ntns:

Mode of expression come in diverse styles. There are those who find their expression and voice in purely logical order and others who do so using a philosophical approach and yet we have others who must project their physicality forcefully in order to represent. The more we reduce everyone in our race to a narrow and single style of expression, in this case "logical", then the less acceptable it is for original ideas to spring forth for fear of being labeled and denigrated by people like you.

Logic has proven the true master of the wits and of true mental transformation because it is concerned with the valid, physical, the seen and the known. It is a component necesary for philosophy.

Philosophical thought allows for the study of the abstract concept in formulating reason and rational.

Physical posturing in the guise of cognitive learning, however  a great appeal to the emotional and intellectually weak  as an expression of manhood, only serves but a short term  objective, giving the user a false sense of achievement and leaves him none the wiser , reveling in his own false sense of wisdom.

I have seen too many a young man's mind be destroyed by these warped philosophies in the name of black consciousness. These men who claim the "Alpha" positions in the pack claiming they are protectors of their own "kind". What kind is that? Men are born men. They possess the same virtues and vices in the same porportions as their nature allows them to possess. If any is given the opprotunity they will revel in the ones that satisfy their innate nature.

The act of civilization requires a consent to abandone the individual thought process and forge together for the greater collective. I get that. what  I don't accept is the blind loyalty. The willigness to truly believe that a philsophy or state of mind is absolute without compromise.  If Farrakhan is watching for "our" intersets, then who is watching Farrkhan. who is questioning his motives,  If blind loyalty finds him unquestionable and his cause noble, then he is a god to thesefoot soldiers who will do anyting to keep him unquestionable.

Malcolm understood this, Biko understood this and mandela understood this as well, which is why they will remain true black conscious leaders, transcending the confines of race . The rest are just copies of the originals

Where all men think alike we don't think very much_(parapharase Walter Lipman)

Morpheus,

You are a theorist, far removed from mundane realities to appreciate the inner struggles of men.

You speak from an idealist view. You should not judge Farrakhan or any man for that matter because the actions you judged are played out in real terms of timeliness and space. Farrakhan does not act in the abstract and neither are his speculations far from their targets.

Negro_Ntns:

Morpheus,

You are a theorist, far removed from mundane realities to appreciate the inner struggles of men.

You speak from an idealist view. You should not judge Farrakhan or any man for that matter because the actions you judged are played out in real terms of timeliness and space. Farrakhan does not act in the abstract and neither are his speculations far from their targets.

@ negro Ntns

I rarely in my posts ever reveal much of my personal experiences but because you are practically the only one who has challenged me on the highest of intellectual levels I will let you know this much.

I have basked in this reality you beleive I am far removed from and bear witness to my life experiences that this reality has lead me to stand on the other side of men like Farrakhan and the "ideas" that they push. It is pretentious to act like  we understand the grandness and scale of this life we live and those who seek to disconnect the connections in the name of reality are no more closer connected to it than I am

Believe me my friend when I say the reality has been ever clear to me. The IDEAL is what matters the more because it DEALS with the HOPE AND BATTLE FOR THE FUTURE.

Hmm, but how does one neglect the certain present for the uncertain and indeterminable tomorrow?

I mean, there is nothing wrong with seeking to make life better but if the needs of today are not attended to, it very well might not be anyone soundly alive to enjoy the envisioned utopian idea.

Let's picture a spoked wheel, say a bicycle wheel for instance. If the hub at the center of the wheel represent "truth", and the wide circumfrence of the wheel represent the society and its order, then the spokes represent the multiciplity of paths to take in order to address social problems.

In that spoke, logic is represented, so is instict, so is insight, inuition and other means of expression.

I have much to say but I'm sleepy and must retire to bed now.

poor morpheus.

sometimes i think morpheus delusional thinking believes white folks give a damn about his ugly fat black a.r.s.e.

they dont. they cannot stand you. history have shown how white people treat people of color. look at what america did to iraq. Bush created a lie to destroy their infrastructure and steal their oil. Now western capitalist are making money hands over fist rebuilding iraq's water system, electrical system, roads, buildings, gas lines, planting trees, cable system, internet, cell phone towers, food from american companies, etc. etc. CAPITALISM capitalise off its victims. This will happen to lybia and Syria.

These white muthafokers are out to take your countries s.h, it. and leave the people broke and begging.

Morpheus wants to be a tool used by the white man to impoverish his own people. He is a CHARLATAN, A FAKE A BRUHAHA. He is not to be trusted because his aim is Materalism!

Yet here I sit in amerikka watching all these bitter, depressed, scared, fat, mentally diseased and physically poised materially rich white folks daily. They are not living "happiness" they are running scared and worried about everthing. Yet as a BLACKMAN, I Feel at peace with self, and total contempt for Capitalism and greedy angry nasty white folks, who do not have any reason to be so blatantly selfish and obsessed with More.

F&*'k You morpheus, you a bum as.re african sellout and B!.tcha.ss nigga!

Morpheus, morpheus, morpheus,

You obviously do not understand the concept of RESPECT for a position. You dont have to agree with Farrakhan on his views or tactics, but you do have to respect that he commandeers a sizeable black following, making him a black leader of thought. Even MLK did not use uncouth language towards NOI, because he understood their authority, even if he disagreed with their means. You on the other hand, obviously have a long way to go. My advice to you: before you start spitting high-sounding arguments, learn the basics - like respect for those that come before you. This is an African (and universal) sign of wisdom, something you are obviously lacking by your own thread title.

Btw, to the dude who suggested the million man march accomplished nothing: Till today, there are black men, who still recount tales of that march, as their first taste of what true manhood and fatherhood was supposed to be like, as they rode in buses with older folk.Tens of thousands of young black men had a positive impact from that march.

MandingoII:

poor morpheus.

sometimes i think morpheus delusional thinking believes white folks give a damn about his ugly fat black a.r.s.e.

they dont. they cannot stand you. history have shown how white people treat people of color. look at what america did to iraq. Bush created a lie to destroy their infrastructure and steal their oil. Now western capitalist are making money hands over fist rebuilding iraq's water system, electrical system, roads, buildings, gas lines, planting trees, cable system, internet, cell phone towers, food from american companies, etc. etc. CAPITALISM capitalise off its victims. This will happen to lybia and Syria.

These white muthafokers are out to take your countries s.h, it. and leave the people broke and begging.

Morpheus wants to be a tool used by the white man to impoverish his own people. He is a CHARLATAN, A FAKE A BRUHAHA. He is not to be trusted because his aim is Materalism!

Yet here I sit in amerikka watching all these bitter, depressed, scared, fat, mentally diseased and physically poised materially rich white folks daily. They are not living "happiness" they are running scared and worried about everthing. Yet as a BLACKMAN, I Feel at peace with self, and total contempt for Capitalism and greedy angry nasty white folks, who do not have any reason to be so blatantly selfish and obsessed with More.

F&*'k You morpheus, you a bum as.re african sellout and B!.tcha.ss nigga!

Same ol fear the traitor, weed out the boogey man tactic used on the minds of the massess by you and the likes of farrakhan. Really strong rederick that easily mobilizes the weak minded, not really teaching them to think for themselves.Not unusal and quite predictable. cause in your utopia people like me cannot exist otherwise the control your kind seek will not be achievable. poor Malcom learned that the hard way didn't he now?

I can easily exit your societie's lust for the material and the drive to satisfy insatiable desires. You on the other hand my dear boy are mentally and physically trapped within its ever powerful grasp, choking you till it squeezes the senses out of you and leaves you stack raving mad abandoned in an asylum somewhere drulling over an overdose of psych meds? Stop lying to yourself. You can't bare the thought of being seprated from your air conditioned Chicken wing eating 40 ounce drinking azz.

MORPHEUS SAYS "FREE YOUR MIND!"

birdman:

Morpheus, morpheus, morpheus,

You obviously do not understand the concept of RESPECT for a position. You dont have to agree with Farrakhan on his views or tactics, but you do have to respect that he commandeers a sizeable black following, making him a black leader of thought. Even MLK did not use uncouth language towards NOI, because he understood their authority, even if he disagreed with their means. You on the other hand, obviously have a long way to go. My advice to you: before you start spitting high-sounding arguments, learn the basics - like respect for those that come before you. This is an African (and universal) sign of wisdom, something you are obviously lacking by your own thread title.

Btw, to the dude who suggested the million man march accomplished nothing: Till today, there are black men, who still recount tales of that march, as their first taste of what true manhood and fatherhood was supposed to be like, as they rode in buses with older folk.Tens of thousands of young black men had a positive impact from that march.

You need to fly away to coo coo land bird man and stop telling me to respect the minds of black militant groups and groupees who have lost any sense of vision other than appeal to frustrations of young AA's who lack any sensible leaders. You fear his authority and rederick not his mind.  there's a difference

Coo coo land? Coming from someone who thinks he is Morpheus? Lol.

Btw, to anyone who hasnt watched recent clips of Farrakhan, you should. He is definitely a more measured man that he was a decade ago. And he is nowhere near as militant as mainstream TV clips would have you believe he is.

birdman:

Coo coo land? Coming from someone who thinks he is Morpheus? Lol.

Btw, to anyone who hasnt watched recent clips of Farrakhan, you should. He is definitely a more measured man that he was a decade ago. And he is nowhere near as militant as mainstream TV clips would have you believe he is.

You sure is right. I guess the NOI aint waiting for those space ships anymore to come fly them away to coo coo land or they aint still looking for the that lost tribe of Shabazz they came from. A real notch down from them crazy militant days.

morpheus24:

You sure is right. I guess the NOI aint waiting for those space ships anymore to come fly them away to coo coo land or they aint still looking for the that lost tribe of Shabazz they came from. A real notch down from them crazy militant days.

No more crazy than the book of Revelations. Actually, far more believable.

^^^

and no crazier than the mindset of the average nigerians who beleive that fasting and praying as opposed to direct action is the solution to getting rid of the terrible leaders that continue to destroy nigeria.

http://www.seventhfam.com/temple/books/black_man/blkindex.htm


Section Two     :    Original Man

Chapter 18 Know Thyself
Chapter 19 First Love Yourself
Chapter 20 Understand Self
Chapter 21 Help Self before Helping Others
Chapter 22 What the So-Called Negro Must do for Himself
Chapter 23 Get Knowledge to Benefit Self
Chapter 24 Knowledge of Yourself
Chapter 25 If the Civilized Man Fails to Perform his Duty What Must be Done?
Chapter 26 Accept Your Own
Chapter 27 We Must Teach Our Own
Chapter 28 Blackman, Accept Your Own
Chapter 29 Who is the Original Man?
Chapter 30 A Good Name is Better than Gold
Chapter 31 Help Self: What Must be Done with the Negroes
Chapter 32 The Black Woman
Chapter 33 Protect and Elevate Your Woman
Chapter 34 The So-Called Negro Must Do Something for Himself
Chapter 35 Birth Control Death Plan
Chapter 36 Plan to Destroy Our Race




Message to the Blackman in America (1965)


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