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Re: If A Presidential Candidate Wins The Majority Of The Votes But Doesn't Have 25% by iLoveYouToo(m): 1:55pm On Feb 24, 2023
egojeny1:

What is the difference brother? Pls educate us


Rerun is done when there's malpractice or irregularities AND involves all parties (every registered and approved political party in that election head to the polls)


A runoff is conducted when a clear majority (according to the electoral act) could not be established, exemplified by the hypothethical scenario suggested by the OP. In a runoff, only the two leading candidates stand for the elections

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Re: If A Presidential Candidate Wins The Majority Of The Votes But Doesn't Have 25% by jmichael259(m): 1:55pm On Feb 24, 2023
CaptainFM1:



The closest wins having meet the requirements. If you remember Trump and Hillary. Hillary got the highest votes but not meet the minimum requirements. Trump met the minimum requirements despite coming second in total vote cast.


Who told you Hilary didn't meet minimum requirements?

Do you know what the U.S electoral college is or how it works?

What is the relationship between U.S electoral college and Nigeria's voter spread?
Re: If A Presidential Candidate Wins The Majority Of The Votes But Doesn't Have 25% by Musauzor(m): 1:58pm On Feb 24, 2023
In addition, if the candidate wins the highest number of votes and 25% in 2/3 of the States (24 states of the federation) without getting at least 25% of the votes in the FCT, Abuja, he cannot be declared a winner. So a candidate must score 25% in the FCT to be declared a winner
Re: If A Presidential Candidate Wins The Majority Of The Votes But Doesn't Have 25% by CaptainFM1: 2:01pm On Feb 24, 2023
jmichael259:


Who told you Hilary didn't meet minimum requirements?

Do you know what the U.S electoral college is or how it works?

What is the relationship between U.S electoral college and Nigeria's voter spread?

Pls tell me.
Re: If A Presidential Candidate Wins The Majority Of The Votes But Doesn't Have 25% by udeh3(m): 2:06pm On Feb 24, 2023
seunmsg:


Stop arguing and go back to your constitution. There are two conditions to be met before a candidate can be returned elected as president. One, he/she must win a simple majority of vote cast. Two, he/she must get at least 25% of total vote cast in 24 states. If no candidate meet these two requirements, a second ballot between the two leading candidates will be conducted and the winner by simple majority will be returned elected.

...All he needs is vote across regions. Atleast, 25% across 24 states. Technically, it's difficult not to have 25% across 24 states and not becoming the highest in terms of votes. Don't forget, this isn't a two horse race anymore. So, technically, anyone who can get 25% votes in 24 states will win this election

The idea is to eliminate tribal candidates
Re: If A Presidential Candidate Wins The Majority Of The Votes But Doesn't Have 25% by abbey621(m): 2:11pm On Feb 24, 2023
Musauzor:
In addition, if the candidate wins the highest number of votes and 25% in 2/3 of the States (24 states of the federation) without getting at least 25% of the votes in the FCT, Abuja, he cannot be declared a winner. So a candidate must score 25% in the FCT to be declared a winner

Go and read, stop spreading falsehoods!
Re: If A Presidential Candidate Wins The Majority Of The Votes But Doesn't Have 25% by ybn1306: 2:17pm On Feb 24, 2023
In a run-off, only scoring majority of votes decides the winner.



famouscargo4u:


The rule is clear, none of them satisfies the condition to be declared winner and therefore it will be inconclusive. A re-run will be done within a week. Thereafter, whoever has the majority votes with 1/4 in 2/3rd of the states in the country will be declared winner.

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Re: If A Presidential Candidate Wins The Majority Of The Votes But Doesn't Have 25% by richystar(m): 2:18pm On Feb 24, 2023
The Obidaft should forget about Saturday election or wait for this scenario to vote out Tinubu, because there maybe run off between Tinubu and ATIKU. But for Obi is waste of vote

Fredge:
If a presidential candidate wins the majority of the votes but doesn't have 25% in 24 states, and his closest rival has 25% in 24 states but doesn't win the majority of the votes, what happens?
Re: If A Presidential Candidate Wins The Majority Of The Votes But Doesn't Have 25% by Bennycollins: 2:29pm On Feb 24, 2023
EdoBoy90:
The one with 25% votes in 24 states is the winner of the election says the constitution or Electoral Act.

No rerun at all.
You are wrong! Both will go for a runoff. The constitution requires that both conditions must be fulfilled.
Re: If A Presidential Candidate Wins The Majority Of The Votes But Doesn't Have 25% by Allisgud: 2:31pm On Feb 24, 2023
I don't even know why they brought this 25% nonsense,is election not supposed to be by majority
Re: If A Presidential Candidate Wins The Majority Of The Votes But Doesn't Have 25% by seunmsg(m): 2:36pm On Feb 24, 2023
udeh3:


...All he needs is vote across regions. Atleast, 25% across 24 states. Technically, it's difficult not to have 25% across 24 states and not becoming the highest in terms of votes. Don't forget, this isn't a two horse race anymore. So, technically, anyone who can get 25% votes in 24 states will win this election

The idea is to eliminate tribal candidates

Someone asked a specific question about what will happen if a candidate get the 25% spread in 24 states without getting a simple majority of total vote cast. That’s the question I responded to and not your own technical assumption. If the situation above happens, the candidate with the spread and the candidate who won the majority of valid votes without the spread will go head to head nationally in a second ballot.

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Re: If A Presidential Candidate Wins The Majority Of The Votes But Doesn't Have 25% by sharone21(f): 2:43pm On Feb 24, 2023
famouscargo4u:


The rule is clear, none of them satisfies the condition to be declared winner and therefore it will be inconclusive. A re-run will be done within a week. Thereafter, whoever has the majority votes with 1/4 in 2/3rd of the states in the country will be declared winner.

This may delay the release of new Naira notes...

Continuation of long suffering for the grasses( masses) as the elephants fight politically.
Re: If A Presidential Candidate Wins The Majority Of The Votes But Doesn't Have 25% by success1smyn(m): 2:43pm On Feb 24, 2023
einsteine:


You guys don't read the constitution, you just assume.

Go and read section 134 of the constitution thoroughly.

The runoff is between the candidate with the highest votes and of the other candidates, the won who won the highest number of votes.

Make sure you read section 134 before replying
What are you writing na, you smoke weed ni?
Re: If A Presidential Candidate Wins The Majority Of The Votes But Doesn't Have 25% by Pootle: 3:23pm On Feb 24, 2023
immortalcrown:
The confusion of the contraption called Nigeria will be further displayed.

grin grin vawulence
Re: If A Presidential Candidate Wins The Majority Of The Votes But Doesn't Have 25% by Slurity(m): 3:23pm On Feb 24, 2023
caracas:

Obi is the only one that stands a chance of getting 25% in 24 states…..
None of Apc n pdp will get 25% in any of ss/ se states
So that is minus 11 states already for both Apc n pdp.
Apc will not get 25% in katsina, plateau, benue, taraba, Adamawa,kebbi,sokoto and Abuja….meaning apc won’t get 25% in 18 states plus the fct.
Pdp will not get 25% in Lagos, ogun, oyo, ekiti and ondo….meaning he will get 25% in in only 20%
Las las if po does not win the runoff will be between PO n Atiku
You are living in dream. Obi will not 25% of any state in southwest except Lagos. He will also not get it in many states in northwest, northeast and even north central. That is a fact.
Re: If A Presidential Candidate Wins The Majority Of The Votes But Doesn't Have 25% by 2ru9jaman: 3:38pm On Feb 24, 2023
It is for this reason that Tinubu built network for the past 30 years . NorthEast, booked NorthWest assured, NorthCentral 4 out of six, southeast 2 out of 5, SouthSouth Settled, SouthWest 100% won.

Some of the northern state have no LP candidates for national assembly ditto for Ekiti , Ondo and Osun. Na magic dem won perform be dat o.

ASIWAJU JAGABAN STRAIGHT
Re: If A Presidential Candidate Wins The Majority Of The Votes But Doesn't Have 25% by vanvickie(m): 3:59pm On Feb 24, 2023
immortalcrown:
The confusion of the contraption called Nigeria will be further displayed.


Funnily enough, I can't stop laughing at this reply, it's sooo hilarious! 😂😂😂
Re: If A Presidential Candidate Wins The Majority Of The Votes But Doesn't Have 25% by egojeny1(f): 4:33pm On Feb 24, 2023
Paradoxical:
If you are in a class as a student where you offer 24 subjects, the pass mark is 50 and you want to lead your class. You scored an average of 90 in 20 subjects and the rest below 50. Now, another classmate of yours scored 50 in all the subjects. Now, what do you think has happend? 😏
O ti fail niyen now
The one that scored 50 in all the subjects wins. This is exactly the criteria my son's school uses in their promotional exams although theirs is 60%.
If a student has 87% average and scored below 60 in any of the subjects, he won't be promoted but another student that has 62% average having scored above 60% in ALL the subjects gets promoted. If you don't want your child to repeat you pull him out. Parents don argue tire no way.
So in this case in my opinion, the one that has 25% spread in 24 states carries the day.
Re: If A Presidential Candidate Wins The Majority Of The Votes But Doesn't Have 25% by egojeny1(f): 4:55pm On Feb 24, 2023
iLoveYouToo:



Rerun is done when there's malpractice or irregularities AND involves all parties (every registered and approved political party in that election head to the polls)


A runoff is conducted when a clear majority (according to the electoral act) could not be established, exemplified by the hypothethical scenario suggested by the OP. In a runoff, only the two leading candidates stand for the elections
Thank you so much

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Re: If A Presidential Candidate Wins The Majority Of The Votes But Doesn't Have 25% by egojeny1(f): 4:57pm On Feb 24, 2023
Musauzor:
In addition, if the candidate wins the highest number of votes and 25% in 2/3 of the States (24 states of the federation) without getting at least 25% of the votes in the FCT, Abuja, he cannot be declared a winner. So a candidate must score 25% in the FCT to be declared a winner
Hian, wahala
Re: If A Presidential Candidate Wins The Majority Of The Votes But Doesn't Have 25% by caracas: 5:10pm On Feb 24, 2023
Slurity:
You are living in dream. Obi will not 25% of any state in southwest except Lagos. He will also not get it in many states in northwest, northeast and even north central. That is a fact.
You must be a comedian to think obi will not get 25% in sw. He will get more than 25 % in ogun, ondo n oyo.He will also get 25% in ekiti…..
As for the north, he will get it from kaduna(nw), in the ne he will get 25% in Adamawa ,Gombe n even win taraba. As for the north central he will win Benue, nassarawa n plateau, n score 25 % in kogi .
Re: If A Presidential Candidate Wins The Majority Of The Votes But Doesn't Have 25% by Ayopercent(m): 7:16pm On Feb 24, 2023
MrPolitics:
The candidate that got 25% in 24 states wins the election
Why are you guys repeating this error...
What is 2/3 of 36 states plus FCT, is it not 25...
Re: If A Presidential Candidate Wins The Majority Of The Votes But Doesn't Have 25% by Naijalarry: 8:34pm On Feb 24, 2023
Oyerinde16:

Then answer my question...

What if he has 25% in 36 states but does not have the majority votes

You won't be declared president, a run-off must be held.
Re: If A Presidential Candidate Wins The Majority Of The Votes But Doesn't Have 25% by MrPolitics: 9:12pm On Feb 24, 2023
Ayopercent:

Why are you guys repeating this error...
What is 2/3 of 36 states plus FCT, is it not 25...

That would be 24+FCT not 25. But FCT isn’t included. If u get 25% in 24 states, it doesn’t matter whether u get it in FCT. U are qualified
Re: If A Presidential Candidate Wins The Majority Of The Votes But Doesn't Have 25% by Slurity(m): 10:39pm On Feb 24, 2023
caracas:

You must be a comedian to think obi will not get 25% in sw. He will get more than 25 % in ogun, ondo n oyo.He will also get 25% in ekiti…..
As for the north, he will get it from kaduna(nw), in the ne he will get 25% in Adamawa ,Gombe n even win taraba. As for the north central he will win Benue, nassarawa n plateau, n score 25 % in kogi .
I will remind you this your blur dream
Re: If A Presidential Candidate Wins The Majority Of The Votes But Doesn't Have 25% by einsteine(m): 10:44pm On Feb 24, 2023
success1smyn:

What are you writing na, you smoke weed ni?

Shut up and go read.
Re: If A Presidential Candidate Wins The Majority Of The Votes But Doesn't Have 25% by einsteine(m): 10:50pm On Feb 24, 2023
CaptainFM1:


Pls tell me.

You people don't read.

Electoral college does not exist in Nigeria.

In the US, each state gets electoral college seats equivalent to the number of legislators (house of reps+senators) that the state has (based essentially on population) and whichever candidate wins that state gets the electoral college seats for that state.

Hilary Clinton had more total votes but not as much electoral college seats.

If Nigeria used Electoral college system, then states such as Lagos, Kano, Borno, Rivers, Katsina, Kaduna and Oyo will be must win as each states election will be winners take all. Obi will stand no chance in that scenario. States like Ekiti, Ebonyi and Bayelsa, no one will bother campaigning.
Re: If A Presidential Candidate Wins The Majority Of The Votes But Doesn't Have 25% by success1smyn(m): 11:28pm On Feb 24, 2023
einsteine:


Shut up and go read.

Oponu, you think everyone on nairaland is your mate?
Get off my mentions ode.

I discovered that most of those following Obi are either voting for the first time or don't even have PVC. It pitiable but that's the reality.
Re: If A Presidential Candidate Wins The Majority Of The Votes But Doesn't Have 25% by CaptainFM1: 12:51am On Feb 25, 2023
einsteine:


You people don't read.

Electoral college does not exist in Nigeria.

In the US, each state gets electoral college seats equivalent to the number of legislators (house of reps+senators) that the state has (based essentially on population) and whichever candidate wins that state gets the electoral college seats for that state.

Hilary Clinton had more total votes but not as much electoral college seats.

If Nigeria used Electoral college system, then states such as Lagos, Kano, Borno, Rivers, Katsina, Kaduna and Oyo will be must win as each states election will be winners take all. Obi will stand no chance in that scenario. States like Ekiti, Ebonyi and Bayelsa, no one will bother campaigning.

Smiles
Re: If A Presidential Candidate Wins The Majority Of The Votes But Doesn't Have 25% by Fredoh(m): 10:06am On Feb 26, 2023
Fredge:
If a presidential candidate wins the majority of the votes but doesn't have 25% in 24 states, and his closest rival has 25% in 24 states but doesn't win the majority of the votes, what happens?


Smart question, by a smart person.
The winning formula says “Simple majority” AND “2/3 of states: 24”
You have to satisfy both conditions to win!

With the above scenario, non satisfy both conditions and the election has to be rerun!


However, the above senator is possible but will rarely happen even with a simulated data.
The one with the most spread usually has the simple majority and therefore the winner!!


Re: If A Presidential Candidate Wins The Majority Of The Votes But Doesn't Have 25% by Fredoh(m): 10:14am On Feb 26, 2023
Hopium:
From ChatGPT. Someone confirm if this is correct.


This is smart of you.
And the answer from chatGPT sounds reasonable!
Re: If A Presidential Candidate Wins The Majority Of The Votes But Doesn't Have 25% by honda001: 10:12pm On Feb 28, 2023
We are heading for a rerun.
honda001:


A preisdent can not be declared with just the above...FCT must be part of the 25 percent.

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