where?

It is in your spirit and no where else. Luke 17:21

Literally, Heaven is people here on earth

There's no literally heaven or Hell. Everything Religious has to be taken with faith even if you saw nothing and religion said it is there then you just gotta have faith and believe. If there was a literal heaven it would have been seen pr reached, so it is metaphorical

paxonel:
It is in your spirit and no where else. Luke 17:21

Literally, Heaven is people here on earth

so we are living it already?

paxonel:
It is in your spirit and no where else. Luke 17:21

Literally, Heaven is people here on earth

nonsense

falcon01:
so we are living it already?

leave that one with his vomit

falcon01:
There's no literally heaven or Hell. Everything Religious has to be taken with faith even if you saw nothing and religion said it is there then you just gotta have faith and believe. If there was a literal heaven it would have been seen pr reached, so it is metaphorical

Also know as a mental disease, specifically audiovisual hallucinations. A prime symptom of psychoses like schizophrenia, manic disorders and drugs

jaephoenix:

Also know as a mental disease, specifically audiovisual hallucinations. A prime symptom of psychoses like schizophrenia, manic disorders and drugs

well i'll be dammed!

falcon01:
well i'll be dammed!

No joking. These are mental diseases. People say they see or hear stuff. These symptoms may be hallucinatory in which case they feel they actually experience such phenomenon, and they convince people who look up to them. Such experiences may be 'honest',in this case their brain tells them it happens. This may be natural (like a schizophrenic) or 'unnatural' in the case of usage of drugs like LSD, MSDA, meth etc. Or 'dishonest', in that they know it didn't happen but need the follower-ship or money

falcon01:
so we are living it already?

exactly!
since 2000 years ago Christ was crucified we have been living in heaven

Luke 13:23 Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved(make heaven)? And he said unto them,
Luke 13:24 Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.

This refers to the many disciples who followed him before he was crucified. Few of them were saved after the crucifixion. Infact, the bible recorded just only 120 of them. Act 1:15

Let me tell you what heaven is!
Heaven was just a transition from the old covenant to the new covenant.
The resurrection of Jesus brought the new covenant which is heaven, this is the gospel truth.

The op is one of the many religious scammers existing today that is turning religion a laughing stock

paxonel:
exactly!
since 2000 years ago Christ was crucified we have been living in heaven

Luke 13:23 Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved(make heaven)? And he said unto them,
Luke 13:24 Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.

This refers to the many disciples who followed him before he was crucified. Few of them were saved after the crucifixion. Infact, the bible recorded just only 120 of them. Act 1:15

Let me tell you what heaven is!
Heaven was just a transition from the old covenant to the new covenant.
The resurrection of Jesus brought the new covenant which is heaven, this is the gospel truth.

The op is one of the many religious scammers existing today that is turning religion a laughing stock

How are we living in heaven when we can't find ordinary food to eat

jaephoenix:

How are we living in heaven when we can't find ordinary food to eat

that is the scam they are scamming people, especially people of poor countries in Africa who are in search for food to eat.
The op is a chief scammer beware of him

Scriptures made us to understand that heaven is not about food or drinks.
Heaven is about eternal life.

Ofcourse if you want food you can always work for it, anyone can work for food you don't need to be a believer to do so

But heaven is about restoring man back to the state he was when Adam and Eve was created, which is eternal life

HellVictorinho7:
nonsense

you won antagonize me?

I will make you pack your shit chop by yourself

jaephoenix:

No joking. These are mental diseases. People say they see or hear stuff. These symptoms may be hallucinatory in which case they feel they actually experience such phenomenon, and they convince people who look up to them. Such experiences may be 'honest',in this case their brain tells them it happens. This may be natural (like a schizophrenic) or 'unnatural' in the case of usage of drugs like LSD, MSDA, meth etc. Or 'dishonest', in that they know it didn't happen but need the follower-ship or money

so there is no God and Religion is a waste if time

paxonel:
that is the scam they are scamming people, especially people of poor countries in Africa who are in search for food to eat.
The op is a chief scammer beware of him

Scriptures made us to understand that heaven is not about food or drinks.
Heaven is about eternal life.

Ofcourse if you want food you can always work for it, anyone can work for food you don't need to be a believer to do so

But heaven is about restoring man back to the state he was when Adam and Eve was created, which is eternal life

So what if we work for food and we still dont get it? Like some that die of hunger. Is it still heavenly?
Do you think if Adam had not eaten the fruit, we'll all be alive?

falcon01:
so there is no God and Religion is a waste if time

Bulls-eye

jaephoenix:

Bulls-eye

doesn't sound fair

falcon01:
doesn't sound fair

Why

jaephoenix:

Why

how do you think all this came to been? Why are we humans the only ones building cars Houses, and guns? Why are we aware of ourselves and surrounding? Why are we?

jaephoenix:

So what if we work for food and we still dont get it?

then we have failed to follow the right principle that ensure success

Like some that die of hunger. Is it still heavenly?

ofcourse one can be in heaven and die of hunger if he is ignorant.
Scriptures says my people perish because they lack knowledge. That is also applied in heaven!

Luke 19:11 And as they heard these things, he added and spake a parable, because he was nigh to Jerusalem, and because they thought that the kingdom of God should immediately appear.

Read the preceding verses of this chapter and see the parable Jesus used to illustrate what happens in the kingdom of heaven, that if you don't work you may suffer

Do you think if Adam had not eaten the fruit, we'll all be alive?

we'll all be alive, there wouldn't have been anything called death.
Initially, man was created to live forever.

paxonel:
you won antagonize me?

I will make you pack your shit chop by yourself

meaning?

HellVictorinho7:
meaning?

go and learn first, otherwise you find yourself antagonizing people they meant no harm to you

paxonel:
then we have failed to follow the right principle that ensure success
ofcourse one can be in heaven and die of hunger if he is ignorant.
Scriptures says my people perish because they lack knowledge. That is also applied in heaven!

Luke 19:11 And as they heard these things, he added and spake a parable, because he was nigh to Jerusalem, and because they thought that the kingdom of God should immediately appear.

Read the preceding verses of this chapter and see the parable Jesus used to illustrate what happens in the kingdom of heaven, that if you don't work you may suffer

we'll all be alive, there wouldn't have been anything called death.
Initially, man was created to live forever.

an evidence that humanity has no direction

paxonel:
go and learn first, otherwise you find yourself antagonizing people they meant no harm to you

but u stated nonsense ,it happens .

In the delusional minds of believers and promoters of fairy tales
Heaven is to Xtians just like Vallhala is to the ancient Norsemen

HellVictorinho7:
but u stated nonsense ,it happens .

you see it as nonsense because you never bother to study.
You are waiting for your pastor to tell you everything?
They will fail you

jaephoenix:

Why

it sounds fair if u r satisfied by it, u can only b satisfied by it tru chance.

falcon01:
how do you think all this came to been? Why are we humans the only ones building cars Houses, and guns? Why are we aware of ourselves and surrounding? Why are we?

Good question.
The truth we don't know how we came here. Scientists aren't sure though a number of theories are around. Also evolution explained how we moved from unicellular to multicellular beings. Its not shameful to say I don't know, after all, there were many phenomena science didn’t know how they happened, but today, its common knowledge. Like lightning, droughts, floods etc. The ancient man thought it was caused by gods by science has dispelled all such nonsense. And science has already dispelled the creation stories of each religion
But to say we were created, is wrong. Why? Many cultures and religions claim their favorite god created the world, but they all have a common theme and that is lack of evidence, and the fact that their holy books contain lots of lies, and contradictions. Which drastically reduces their credibility.

paxonel:
then we have failed to follow the right principle that ensure success
ofcourse one can be in heaven and die of hunger if he is ignorant.
Scriptures says my people perish because they lack knowledge. That is also applied in heaven!

Luke 19:11 And as they heard these things, he added and spake a parable, because he was nigh to Jerusalem, and because they thought that the kingdom of God should immediately appear.

Read the preceding verses of this chapter and see the parable Jesus used to illustrate what happens in the kingdom of heaven, that if you don't work you may suffer

we'll all be alive, there wouldn't have been anything called death.
Initially, man was created to live forever.

Lol. Do you actually think every man could have lived forever. Lol. Christians.
The resources on earth would have been depleted long ago and the ecological balance disrupted

paxonel:
you see it as nonsense because you never bother to study.
You are waiting for your pastor to tell you everything?
They will fail you

in other words, u r stuck 2 these tinz

Heaven’s location is based on a geocentric description of our world with a flat circular earth that has four pillars to uphold the firmament. The firmament stretches over the whole earth like a dome. The firmament consists of various wheels that turn carrying the fixed stars with them while the wandering stars (planets) have their own wheels. Rain comes when the windows ofthe firmament are opened. Above the firmament lies heaven.

Of course, this is all nonsense created by relatively brilliant people. Apart from the whole geocentric view being wrong, you also have the false dichotomy of “heaven and earth”. The earth is very much part of the celestial and we have seen pictures of the earth from outer space were it appears as a dot of light just like the “fixed” stars and the “wandering” stars.

Heaven is when and where people use and develop their intellectual capacity to reason and manipulate their environment to their benefit and for their comfort. Hell is living amongst people that have eschewed the use of reason. Earth is where it all happens.

That tiny point of light is us, the “pale blue dot”

jaephoenix:

Lol. Do you actually think every man could have lived forever. Lol. Christians.
The resources on earth would have been depleted long ago and the ecological balance disrupted

to be sincere, the process how man was going to live forever before the fall of man, the bible didn't state that clearly, so i wouldn't know.

But how man is living forever today, the bible clearly state that

1 Corinthians 15:35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up?(note : it is not saying how are the dead going to be raised up) and with what body do they come? ( it is not saying with what body are they going to come

Obviously, when we die we will come back with a different body.

With this, there is no fear of depletion of resources leading to ecological imbalance since the body is continually recycled through death