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Re: 83% Of Presidential And NASS Results Has Be Uploaded On INEC's Portal by MyVILLAGEpeople(m): 11:36am On Mar 02, 2023
Diligent1:

That doesn't mean he is the winner

At least he was able to make some upsets, especially looking at the fact that he was so underrated!
Re: 83% Of Presidential And NASS Results Has Be Uploaded On INEC's Portal by IfnobeGod20: 11:37am On Mar 02, 2023
Lanrygold:
The purpose of irev is clearly not for collation but for voters of each polls should be able to see their results, and that is why there is still need for party agent to be present at each stage of collation from the ward to the local government to the state and also to the federal which is the general collation, so let us not be part of the Nigerians which political party can take the advantage of our anger due to us not seeing our result on portal , so they should focus on fault on the collation than that that is more concerned by the civil society
Read through your 2022 Electoral Act and learn.

2022 No. 13
Electoral Act, 2022

64.—(1) The presiding officer shall endorse the word “rejected” on the
ballot paper rejected under section 52 (1) of this Act and for any other reason,
and the ballot papers shall not be counted except otherwise allowed by the
returning officer who may overrule the presiding officer.
(2) If an objection to the decision of a presiding officer to reject a ballot
paper is raised by a candidate or a polling agent at the time the decision is
made, the presiding officer shall add to the word “rejected”, the phrase “but
objected to”.
(3) The presiding officer shall prepare a statement on rejected ballot
papers, stating the number rejected, the reason for rejection and their serial
number, and he or she shall on request, allow a candidate or a polling agent to
copy the statement.
(4) A collation officer or returning officerat an election shall collate and
announce the result of an election, subject to his or her verification and
confirmation that the—
(a) number of accredited voters stated on the collated result are correct
and consistent with the number of accredited voters recorded and transmitted
directly from polling units under section 47 (2) of this Act ; and
(b) the votes stated on the collated result are correct and consistent with
the votes or results recorded and transmitted directly from polling units
under section 60 (4) of this Act.
(5) Subject to subsection (1), a collation officer or returning officer shall
use the number of accredited voters recorded and transmitted directly from
polling units under section 47 (2) of this Act and the votes or results recorded
and transmitted directly from polling units under section 60 (4) of this Act to
collate and announce the result of an election if a collated result at his or a
lower level of collation is not correct.
(6) Where during collation of results, there is a dispute regarding a
collated result or the result of an election from any polling unit, the collation
officer or returning officer shall use the following to determine the correctness
(a) the original of the disputed collated result for each polling unit where
the election is disputed ;
(b) the smart card reader or other technology device used for accreditation of
voters in each polling unit where the election is disputed for the purpose of obtaining
accreditation data directly from the smart card reader or technology device ;
(c) data of accreditation recorded and transmitted directly from each
polling unit where the election is disputed as prescribed under section 47
(2) of this Act ; and
(d) the votes and result of the election recorded and transmitted directly
from each polling unit where the election is disputed, as prescribed under
section 60 (4) of this Act.
(7) If the disputed result under subsection (6) were otherwise found not
to be correct, the collation officer or returning officer shall re-collate and
announce a new result using the information in subsection (6) (
a)-(d).
(cool Where the dispute under subsection (6) arose at the level of collation
and the returning officer has satisfied the provision of subsection (6) (
a)-(d),
the returning officer shall accordingly declare the winner of the election.
(9) A returning officer or collation officer, as the case may be, commits
an offence if he or she intentionally collates or announces a false result and is
liable on conviction to a fine of N
5,000,000 or imprisonment for a term of at
least three years or both.
Re: 83% Of Presidential And NASS Results Has Be Uploaded On INEC's Portal by Diligent1(f): 11:38am On Mar 02, 2023
MyVILLAGEpeople:


At least he was able to make some upsets, especially looking at the fact that he was so underrated!
He was mostly helped by the Endsars youths
Re: 83% Of Presidential And NASS Results Has Be Uploaded On INEC's Portal by Image123(m): 11:38am On Mar 02, 2023
nnamdi640:
Inec and APC are the one that rigged the election, acting as if all is well with our electoral practice will one back fire to many of you support this malpractice. If Inec can't keep to their promises, then our democracy is in danger

Saying the election was rigged many times doesn't make it rigged, you need to do better by proving it. i have not seen any Nigerian body, especially government keep strictly to its promise so i really can't see the miracle you are looking for here. Government gave deadline for NIN, for BVN, for cash swap. It didn't happen, exactly as we all know. They've declared emergency on power sector, security, education sector, health sector, corruption, all to no avail. No show. But you suddenly think IREV will be uploaded 100% on election day. On what basis do you believe this, who gave you such faith and trust in the Nigerian system?

That being said, IREV will be uploaded 100% one day but it doesn't change anything. Like i said already, it is like uploading a scanned copy of your documents online. It is not greater or more powerful than your original documents. The original documents were brought to collation center LIVE. Certificate of return has been issued. What you have to prove is to tell if there are discrepancies between the original and the uploaded. Otherwise, court and tribunal cases will be thrown out. There's an ongoing court case in Osun state. Many APC sitting governors and stalwarts lost election and their states, so i don't get what you mean by back fire.

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Re: 83% Of Presidential And NASS Results Has Be Uploaded On INEC's Portal by Tunedey0001(m): 11:41am On Mar 02, 2023
IfnobeGod20:

You're not right, because for almost 8 we've not heard such thing. Or are you insinuating that Tinubu will also do same? I expect you guys to be talking intelligently and not this slavery talk.

Party affiliation bring development and cooperation among state and federal.
That's how it's done all over the world
No saint politician.
Even US they do am
Guy no put emotion to this thing na politics they call am, until you understand the rules of politics you won't know the benefit of same party both in state and federal.
That's how it's done all over the world.
Google is your friend
Do research of US politics and come back here with fact only.
Re: 83% Of Presidential And NASS Results Has Be Uploaded On INEC's Portal by Image123(m): 11:41am On Mar 02, 2023
IfnobeGod20:

Read through your 2022 Electoral Act and learn.

2022 No. 13
Electoral Act, 2022

64.—(1) The presiding officer shall endorse the word “rejected” on the
ballot paper rejected under section 52 (1) of this Act and for any other reason,
and the ballot papers shall not be counted except otherwise allowed by the
returning officer who may overrule the presiding officer.
(2) If an objection to the decision of a presiding officer to reject a ballot
paper is raised by a candidate or a polling agent at the time the decision is
made, the presiding officer shall add to the word “rejected”, the phrase “but
objected to”.

(3) The presiding officer shall prepare a statement on rejected ballot
papers, stating the number rejected, the reason for rejection and their serial
number, and he or she shall on request, allow a candidate or a polling agent to
copy the statement.

(4) A collation officer or returning officerat an election shall collate and
announce the result of an election, subject to his or her verification and
confirmation that the—
(a) number of accredited voters stated on the collated result are correct
and consistent with the number of accredited voters recorded and transmitted
directly from polling units under section 47 (2) of this Act ; and
(b) the votes stated on the collated result are correct and consistent with
the votes or results recorded and transmitted directly from polling units
under section 60 (4) of this Act.
(5) Subject to subsection (1), a collation officer or returning officer shall
use the number of accredited voters recorded and transmitted directly from
polling units under section 47 (2) of this Act and the votes or results recorded
and transmitted directly from polling units under section 60 (4) of this Act to
collate and announce the result of an election if a collated result at his or a
lower level of collation is not correct.

(6) Where during collation of results, there is a dispute regarding a
collated result
or the result of an election from any polling unit, the collation
officer or returning officer shall use the following to determine the correctness
(a) the original of the disputed collated result for each polling unit where
the election is disputed
;
(b) the smart card reader or other technology device used for accreditation of
voters in each polling unit where the election is disputed for the purpose of obtaining
accreditation data directly from the smart card reader or technology device ;
(c) data of accreditation recorded and transmitted directly from each
polling unit where the election is disputed as prescribed under section 47
(2) of this Act ; and
(d) the votes and result of the election recorded and transmitted directly
from each polling unit where the election is disputed, as prescribed under
section 60 (4) of this Act.
(7) If the disputed result under subsection (6) were otherwise found not
to be correct, the collation officer or returning officer shall re-collate and
announce a new result using the information in subsection (6) (
a)-(d).
(cool Where the dispute under subsection (6) arose at the level of collation
and the returning officer has satisfied the provision of subsection (6) (
a)-(d),
the returning officer shall accordingly declare the winner of the election.

(9) A returning officer or collation officer, as the case may be, commits
an offence if he or she intentionally collates or announces a false result and is
liable on conviction to a fine of N
5,000,000 or imprisonment for a term of at
least three years or both.

Thanks very much. People who lost the elections should read and be objective please.

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Re: 83% Of Presidential And NASS Results Has Be Uploaded On INEC's Portal by MikeofAfrica: 11:43am On Mar 02, 2023
Lanrygold:
The purpose of irev is clearly not for collation but for voters of each polls should be able to see their results, and that is why there is still need for party agent to be present at each stage of collation from the ward to the local government to the state and also to the federal which is the general collation, so let us not be part of the Nigerians which political party can take the advantage of our anger due to us not seeing our result on portal , so they should focus on fault on the collation than that that is more concerned by the civil society

You seem to be a novice in Nigeria politics.

After the counting and recording of an election result at a polling unit, the agents of the different political parties signs and depart the polling units.

They do not follow the INEC officials in their vehicles to the ward. Hence between the polling unit and the ward, the result can be altered by the INEC officials. The results from the wards can again be altered as it is taken to the Local Government.

Note that after these results are altered, it will still bear the signatures of the party agents who signed the document before it was doctored.

Hence the only way to get an authentic result is to transmit result directly from the polling unit to the INEC server through the BVAS immediately the results are realised at the polling units.

Unfortunately, APC in collaboration with INEC officials sabotage the immediate transmission of result . They then hacked the System and also altered the transmited results.
Re: 83% Of Presidential And NASS Results Has Be Uploaded On INEC's Portal by Lanrygold: 11:43am On Mar 02, 2023
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Re: 83% Of Presidential And NASS Results Has Be Uploaded On INEC's Portal by Gizer: 11:43am On Mar 02, 2023
benjaminlawson:


You talking that party agents having the result, the question is how many party agents were allowed to the collation centres? many of them were driven out and do not have access to the result from the centres. What would have made all to have it was compromised by INEC itself, by not scan it and transfer it electronically at the polling units.
All party agents cant enter. They collate with their superiors and overall superiors who goes to the state collation center
Re: 83% Of Presidential And NASS Results Has Be Uploaded On INEC's Portal by IfnobeGod20: 11:55am On Mar 02, 2023
Image123:


That's a query for INEC, they are the ones responsible for that. It doesn't have much to do with our electoral laws and processes. It's a good thing poorly implemented. But in no way, the crux of the matter. Elections are held all over the world and physically collated. Internet upload is not greater or more valid than hard copy in any system.
Pls have you gone through the 2022 electoral Act? If you've gone through it, you won't be saying what you're saying. The law gave room for electronic transmission from polling units, which would be provided for by the INEC. Which INEC had umpteenth times said, the transmission would be done using BVAS.
It results are not transmitted at the polling units using BVAS. INEC have breached the law.
Section 64 of the electoral Act is very explicit:
64(4) A collation officer or returning officerat an election shall collate and
announce the result of an election, subject to his or her verification and
confirmation that the—
(a) number of accredited voters stated on the collated result are correct
and consistent with the number of accredited voters recorded and transmitted directly from polling units under section 47 (2) of this Act ; and
(b) the votes stated on the collated result are correct and consistent with
the votes or results recorded and transmitted directly from polling units
under section 60 (4) of this Act.
(5) Subject to subsection (1), a collation officer or returning officer shall
use the number of accredited voters recorded and transmitted directly from
polling units under section 47 (2) of this Act and the votes or results recorded
and transmitted directly from polling units under section 60 (4) of this Act to
collate and announce the result of an election if a collated result at his or a
lower level of collation is not correct.
(6) Where during collation of results, there is a dispute regarding a
collated result or the result of an election from any polling unit, the collation officer or returning officer shall use the following to determine the correctness
(a) the original of the disputed collated result for each polling unit where
the election is disputed ;
(b) the smart card reader or other technology device used for accreditation of voters in each polling unit where the election is disputed for the purpose of obtaining accreditation data directly from the smart card reader or technology device ;
(c) data of accreditation recorded and transmitted directly from each
polling unit where the election is disputed as prescribed under section 47
(2) of this Act.

Anything done out the electoral Act and the constitution is null and void.
Re: 83% Of Presidential And NASS Results Has Be Uploaded On INEC's Portal by Lanrygold: 11:57am On Mar 02, 2023
So funny how some Nigerian can be , the party agent from each polling unit has a returning Oficer for each ward in which the agent delivers it copy of results to and now with our exposure on technology they took pictures of their results and send them to their returning officer for the ward same procedure took place to the federal level so if anyone should be talking of polling irev party are far from it because they know and they also follow this procedure. They know they lost base on their report collated from their situation room. The things is the result from your polling unit may still be canceled due to over voting at the ward collation so y’all need to understand that aggrieved party is seeing this as opportunity to use faulty aspects of the once that does not concern the collation
Re: 83% Of Presidential And NASS Results Has Be Uploaded On INEC's Portal by nnamdi640: 12:00pm On Mar 02, 2023
Image123:


Saying the election was rigged many times doesn't make it rigged, you need to do better by proving it. i have not seen any Nigerian body, especially government keep strictly to its promise so i really can't see the miracle you are looking for here. Government gave deadline for NIN, for BVN, for cash swap. It didn't happen, exactly as we all know. They've declared emergency on power sector, security, education sector, health sector, corruption, all to no avail. No show. But you suddenly think IREV will be uploaded 100% on election day. On what basis do you believe this, who gave you such faith and trust in the Nigerian system?

That being said, IREV will be uploaded 100% one day but it doesn't change anything. Like i said already, it is like uploading a scanned copy of your documents online. It is not greater or more powerful than your original documents. The original documents were brought to collation center LIVE. Certificate of return has been issued. What you have to prove is to tell if there are discrepancies between the original and the uploaded. Otherwise, court and tribunal cases will be thrown out. There's an ongoing court case in Osun state. Many APC sitting governors and stalwarts lost election and their states, so i don't get what you mean by back fire.
Government can fail in other things but not sensitive things like election conduct because such thing can set the country on fire.
Re: 83% Of Presidential And NASS Results Has Be Uploaded On INEC's Portal by Image123(m): 12:00pm On Mar 02, 2023
IfnobeGod20:

Pls have you gone through the 2022 electoral Act? If you've gone through it, you won't be saying what you're saying. The law gave room for electronic transmission from polling units, which would be provided for by the INEC. Which INEC had umpteenth times said, the transmission would be done using BVAS.
It results are not transmitted at the polling units using BVAS. INEC have breached the law.
Section 64 of the electoral Act is very explicit:
64(4) A collation officer or returning officerat an election shall collate and
announce the result of an election, subject to his or her verification and
confirmation that the—
(a) number of accredited voters stated on the collated result are correct
and consistent with the number of accredited voters recorded and transmitted directly from polling units under section 47 (2) of this Act ; and
(b) the votes stated on the collated result are correct and consistent with
the votes or results recorded and transmitted directly from polling units
under section 60 (4) of this Act.
(5) Subject to subsection (1), a collation officer or returning officer shall
use the number of accredited voters recorded and transmitted directly from
polling units under section 47 (2) of this Act and the votes or results recorded
and transmitted directly from polling units under section 60 (4) of this Act to
collate and announce the result of an election if a collated result at his or a
lower level of collation is not correct.
(6) Where during collation of results, there is a dispute regarding a
collated result or the result of an election from any polling unit, the collation officer or returning officer shall use the following to determine the correctness
(a) the original of the disputed collated result for each polling unit where
the election is disputed ;
(b) the smart card reader or other technology device used for accreditation of voters in each polling unit where the election is disputed for the purpose of obtaining accreditation data directly from the smart card reader or technology device ;
(c) data of accreditation recorded and transmitted directly from each
polling unit where the election is disputed as prescribed under section 47
(2) of this Act.

Anything done out the electoral Act and the constitution is null and void.

No law was breached, it simply gives them power/legality to transmit using IREV. IREV is not the only means of transmission. Asides transmission is collation and announcements. You don't need IREV or BVAs for these. They are just to help the process, not compulsory for you to collate or announce.
Re: 83% Of Presidential And NASS Results Has Be Uploaded On INEC's Portal by Image123(m): 12:02pm On Mar 02, 2023
nnamdi640:
Government can fail in other things but not sensitive things like election conduct because such thing can set the country on fire.

Okay, maybe we'd stop elections henceforth since Nigeria cannot get sensitive things right. No fire anywhere BTW. Anybody that tries it will be quickly consumed.
Re: 83% Of Presidential And NASS Results Has Be Uploaded On INEC's Portal by IfnobeGod20: 12:02pm On Mar 02, 2023
Image123:


Thanks very much. People who lost the elections should read and be objective please.
Not only people that lost the election but all parties involved in election management, how they sabotage the system by not following the rules. I went to copy it just because of you that is arguing blindly on the veracity of the use of technology to transmit results from the polling units.
The first step of the results after counting is transmission. The law never contemplate the use of manual report to the ward level, even after the votes have been recorded manually but to be transmitted by technology that will be provided by INEC. And in this form. INEC provided BVAS to be used to transmit it immediately. The question now is, do they do that immediately?
Go back and read the law very well and this time around do it slowly and with no bias mind.
Re: 83% Of Presidential And NASS Results Has Be Uploaded On INEC's Portal by IfnobeGod20: 12:05pm On Mar 02, 2023
Image123:


No law was breached, it simply gives them power/legality to transmit using IREV. IREV is not the only means of transmission. Asides transmission is collation and announcements. You don't need IREV or BVAs for these. They are just to help the process, not compulsory for you to collate or announce.
Go back and read the law again. Electronic transmission is part of the process of authenticating and preserving the results. But this time slowly and gently.
Let me give you the extract because it seems cumbersome for you.

64(4) A collation officer or returning officerat an election shall collate and
announce the result of an election, subject to his or her verification and
confirmation that the—
(a) number of accredited voters stated on the collated result are correct
and consistent with the number of accredited voters recorded and transmitted directly from polling units under section 47 (2) of this Act ; and
(b) the votes stated on the collated result are correct and consistent with
the votes or results recorded and transmitted directly from polling units
under section 60 (4) of this Act.
(5) Subject to subsection (1), a collation officer or returning officer shall
use the number of accredited voters recorded and transmitted directly from
polling units under section 47 (2) of this Act and the votes or results recorded
and transmitted directly from polling units under section 60 (4) of this Act to
collate and announce the result of an election if a collated result at his or a
lower level of collation is not correct.

Let me school you further, even though I am not a lawyer but just using my common sense that is not common.

Section 60 of the Electoral Act states that “the presiding officer shall, after counting the votes at the polling unit, enter the votes scored by each candidate in a form to be prescribed by the commission as the case may be”.

More so, section 60 (5) of the Act states that the presiding officer shall transfer the results including total number of accredited voters and the results of the ballot in a manner as prescribed by the commission”.

Now, what was prescribed by the commission? The prescribed manner here is the BVAS, which INEC introduced to ensure that the electoral process is credible. The BVAS was introduced by INEC in line with Section 148 of the Electoral Act, which gives INEC power to make guidelines and regulations to ensure the full effect of the law.

Can INEC now turnaround and say its never introduced BVAS to transmit results from polling units for the credibility of the polls?
Re: 83% Of Presidential And NASS Results Has Be Uploaded On INEC's Portal by shineeye1: 12:15pm On Mar 02, 2023
wwwihy:
83% of Presidential and National Assembly Results Uploaded on INEC Portal

Technology always requires management of congestion. So it is gradual and steady, but Surely.

https://inecelectionresults.ng/pres/elections/63f8f25b594e164f8146a213?type=pres

What Political Parties need to focus on is BVAS for the Tribunal....the numbers accredited Vs. the numbers that voted


God Bless Federal Republic of Nigeria

You mean the doctored "results" have started emerging after 100 hours in the fantastically corrupt incubators of INEC! Of what significance? Medicine after death..

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Re: 83% Of Presidential And NASS Results Has Be Uploaded On INEC's Portal by Axis313(m): 12:16pm On Mar 02, 2023
MikeofAfrica:


Tinubu has already promise Akpabio the Senate presidency.

That is the reason he was the first to step down for him at the primary.
Whaoh,but I think Akpabio is a first timer,or is he a serving senator?
Re: 83% Of Presidential And NASS Results Has Be Uploaded On INEC's Portal by MikeofAfrica: 12:21pm On Mar 02, 2023
Axis313:

Whaoh,but I think Akpabio is a first timer,or is he a serving senator?

Akpabio was the minority leader of the Senate before he decamped to APC.

He has been in the Senate for 4 years.
Re: 83% Of Presidential And NASS Results Has Be Uploaded On INEC's Portal by Axis313(m): 12:31pm On Mar 02, 2023
MikeofAfrica:


Akpabio was the minority leader of the Senate before he decamped to APC.

He has been in the Senate for 4 years.
Okay,thanks for the clarification.
I think he deserves it now.
Re: 83% Of Presidential And NASS Results Has Be Uploaded On INEC's Portal by IfnobeGod20: 12:33pm On Mar 02, 2023
Tunedey0001:


Party affiliation bring development and cooperation among state and federal.
That's how it's done all over the world
No saint politician.
Even US they do am
Guy no put emotion to this thing na politics they call am, until you understand the rules of politics you won't know the benefit of same party both in state and federal.
That's how it's done all over the world.
Google is your friend
Do research of US politics and come back here with fact only.
Pls come out plain and stop this illiterate talk. Are you saying because an A state is not in Mr. President party. The entitlements of the A state would not be given to its? The FG would also collect the IGR generated from its. It would also deny its from borrowing to meet development. Remember local borrowing doesn't require any FG assent or national assembly assent, only foreign borrowing.
You even claimed that that's how is being done all over the world. Pls stop this African dirty politics that have not brought growth and development to the continent. No developed society does that. They allow freedom of choice to prevail and not this do or die politics Africa do. Put in perspective what you know and stop saying what you don't know
Re: 83% Of Presidential And NASS Results Has Be Uploaded On INEC's Portal by lionshare: 12:44pm On Mar 02, 2023
IfnobeGod20:

Pls come out plain and stop this illiterate talk. Are you saying because an A state is not in Mr. President party. The entitlements of the A state would not be given to its? The FG would also collect the IGR generated from its. It would also deny its from borrowing to meet development. Remember local borrowing doesn't require any FG assent or national assembly assent, only foreign borrowing.
You even claimed that that's how is being done all over the world. Pls stop this African dirty politics that have not brought growth and development to the continent. No developed society does that. They allow freedom of choice to prevail and not this do or die politics Africa do. Put in perspective what you know and stop saying what you don't know

Stop exposing your ignorance. Why do you think Lagos was able to start the construction of the red railway lines? Or seaport completion or badagry port approval or the Ibadan-Lagos rails? Or even the apapa-oworo express ? Just recently some abandoned federal properties were sold to Lagos after decades. You can do better.
Re: 83% Of Presidential And NASS Results Has Be Uploaded On INEC's Portal by nnamdi640: 12:45pm On Mar 02, 2023
Image123:


Okay, maybe we'd stop elections henceforth since Nigeria cannot get sensitive things right. No fire anywhere BTW. Anybody that tries it will be quickly consumed.
It will consumed all. You hardly hear USA complaining about election malpractice. Since our electorate practice is faulty it is high time inec must get it right if truly they want the country to be a peace. Saying that it fire will only consumed those complaining is not garanty
Re: 83% Of Presidential And NASS Results Has Be Uploaded On INEC's Portal by lionshare: 12:48pm On Mar 02, 2023
nnamdi640:
It will consumed all. You hardly hear USA complaining about election malpractice. Since our electorate practice is faulty it is high time inec must get it right if truly they want the country to be a peace. Saying that it fire will only consumed those complaining is not garanty

Did you follow the 2020 US Elections?
Re: 83% Of Presidential And NASS Results Has Be Uploaded On INEC's Portal by IfnobeGod20: 12:50pm On Mar 02, 2023
lionshare:


Stop exposing your ignorance. Why do you think Lagos was able to start the construction of the red railway lines? Or seaport completion or badagry port approval or the Ibadan-Lagos rails? Or even the apapa-oworo express ? Just recently some abandoned federal properties were sold to Lagos after decades. You can do better.
What's the meaning of all these junks that doesn't relate to the discourse. What concern FG projects with alignment of state government with FG?
What of 2nd Niger Bridge in Anambra? What of Ogoni clean up?
You guys will never grow because you refused to move out from your enclave. Whether a state align with the centre is inconsequential, it all depends on the capacity of the individual to govern the state.
Re: 83% Of Presidential And NASS Results Has Be Uploaded On INEC's Portal by lionshare: 12:58pm On Mar 02, 2023
IfnobeGod20:

What's the meaning of all these junks that doesn't relate to the discourse. What concern FG projects with alignment of state government with FG?
What of 2nd Niger Bridge in Anambra? What of Ogoni clean up?
You guys will never grow because you refused to move out from your enclave. Whether a state align with the centre is inconsequential, it all depends on the capacity of the individual to govern the state.

Okay. Are you implying that fashola lacked the capacity when Jonathan refused approval for red line?

https://dailypost.ng/2015/01/11/apc-accuses-jonathan-blocking-lagos-light-rail-project/?amp=1
Re: 83% Of Presidential And NASS Results Has Be Uploaded On INEC's Portal by Tunedey0001(m): 1:05pm On Mar 02, 2023
IfnobeGod20:

Pls come out plain and stop this illiterate talk. Are you saying because an A state is not in Mr. President party. The entitlements of the A state would not be given to its? The FG would also collect the IGR generated from its. It would also deny its from borrowing to meet development. Remember local borrowing doesn't require any FG assent or national assembly assent, only foreign borrowing.
You even claimed that that's how is being done all over the world. Pls stop this African dirty politics that have not brought growth and development to the continent. No developed society does that. They allow freedom of choice to prevail and not this do or die politics Africa do. Put in perspective what you know and stop saying what you don't know

Okay I agree with you 💯
Since that's what you want.
Then if I hear you say FG did nothing in your region or denial you any project approval I will quote this your post cause I see how you're claiming woke now
Re: 83% Of Presidential And NASS Results Has Be Uploaded On INEC's Portal by njelrapheal: 1:26pm On Mar 02, 2023
Jorussia:
This is what i have been trying to explain to some folks.The purpose of irev is to assist political parties seeking redress in court to build a water tight case in case of any malpractice by inec.irev is not meant to declare winner of an election.
how can they build a water tight case if the authnticity of what was uploaded there is questionable
Re: 83% Of Presidential And NASS Results Has Be Uploaded On INEC's Portal by Bigsunny01(m): 1:29pm On Mar 02, 2023
AbdulMagaji:
Look at you


Those result sheets where supposed to be uploaded immediately and directly from the various poling units after counting.


Before the INEC chairman announces a result for each state, he is supposed to verify the figures uploaded with the manual submitted.



That's why over a 100 billion were allocated to him for the job.


His job is done once in 4 years!



If he wasn't fit to do the job, he should have opted out.




It's not by force to be INEC chairman.




Look at how our leaders are disgracing us both home and abroad. Nigerians are just watching helplessly.



Just Common counting of units and result tally, Nigeria couldn't get it right.



What task is there in adding up the results uploaded and verifying it with what each state chairman submitted?



There are Nigerian lecturers, professors who are far older than the INEC chairman in universities. This lecturers teaches, marks and grades over 1000 students on a particular course. They record this results and also upload them online while they are been paid peanuts.



Now tell me why INEC with all the hundreds of billions with the only task of a credible presidential election could not tally up the figures uploaded by each LGA in Nigeria.



Greatest yahoo yahoo of all time in Nigeria history





INEC can remain but u see dat post of Chairman in INEC should be scrap totally dey are fraudulent

Copers can be use as INEC workers in all de polling unit

Let a trusted body from oversees a neutral body come into de country a night before election and be de one doing de work of INEC chairman since we keep having cows as one

If not any INEC chairman should be call out to swear an oath before carrying out his duty

Because of one idiot de whole country will be in disaster, human disaster is worse dan de natural disaster we witness in de world
Re: 83% Of Presidential And NASS Results Has Be Uploaded On INEC's Portal by IfnobeGod20: 1:30pm On Mar 02, 2023
lionshare:


Okay. Are you implying that fashola lacked the capacity when Jonathan refused approval for red line?

https://dailypost.ng/2015/01/11/apc-accuses-jonathan-blocking-lagos-light-rail-project/?amp=1
You're the one saying that because I know and others know that Fashola is the best governor Lagos has ever had.
Meanwhile, did you read the reason why Jonathan and Yar'adu denied Lagos the right of way. Just because the right of way has extended to another state. This suppose to be a joint collaboration between Ogun and Lagos. If he has approved that, it would have amounted to giving side to one state against another. Just the same as the oil wells infighting in the south South among states.

But it was the same Jonathan that approved all these for Lagos. Are you aware of these?

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://pmnewsnigeria.com/2012/07/18/jonathan-approves-1-4billion-rail-project/%3Famp%3D1&ved=2ahUKEwiJ9qOGnr39AhVMR_EDHUsEDcMQFnoECAsQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0qGw8sYcOaN9hp-AiG23We

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://thenationonlineng.net/jonathan-seeks-senates-approval-200m-loan-lagos/&ved=2ahUKEwiJ9qOGnr39AhVMR_EDHUsEDcMQFnoECB0QAQ&usg=AOvVaw2AO_fAotqea3BTG0NN2_l5
Re: 83% Of Presidential And NASS Results Has Be Uploaded On INEC's Portal by IfnobeGod20: 1:34pm On Mar 02, 2023
Tunedey0001:


Okay I agree with you 💯
Since that's what you want.
Then if I hear you say FG did nothing in your region or denial you any project approval I will quote this your post cause I see how you're claiming woke now
Not what I want but how it suppose to be. That is why I give it to Buhari. He never deny any state or region their developmental rights, aside skewed appointments to favour one region at the detriment of other regions.
Politics should not be a do or die affair. Systems are allowed to flow on it own.
Re: 83% Of Presidential And NASS Results Has Be Uploaded On INEC's Portal by lionshare: 2:09pm On Mar 02, 2023
IfnobeGod20:

You're the one saying that because I know and others know that Fashola is the best governor Lagos has ever had.
Meanwhile, did you read the reason why Jonathan and Yar'adu denied Lagos the right of way. Just because the right of way has extended to another state. This suppose to be a joint collaboration between Ogun and Lagos. If he has approved that, it would have amounted to giving side to one state against another. Just the same as the oil wells infighting in the south South among states.

But it was the same Jonathan that approved all these for Lagos. Are you aware of these?

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://pmnewsnigeria.com/2012/07/18/jonathan-approves-1-4billion-rail-project/%3Famp%3D1&ved=2ahUKEwiJ9qOGnr39AhVMR_EDHUsEDcMQFnoECAsQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0qGw8sYcOaN9hp-AiG23We

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://thenationonlineng.net/jonathan-seeks-senates-approval-200m-loan-lagos/&ved=2ahUKEwiJ9qOGnr39AhVMR_EDHUsEDcMQFnoECB0QAQ&usg=AOvVaw2AO_fAotqea3BTG0NN2_l5


And you think the current approval does not extend to ogun state? Pls check the red-line proposed routes.

Cmon why can’t you be stay consistent in thought, you just posited that only a governor without capacity will be unable to perform without alignment with the federal government. My argument is to show you a great example of a governor with capacity in fashola who despite his capacity was unable to build the redline because of non-alignment with the center.

As for the links you posted; there’s no correlation. We know for a fact that approval is not exactly equals to execution. A good example is the many MOUs signed in Anambra state. If the projects were executed when signed Buhari wouldn’t have had to commit resources to doing same.

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