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I Now Agree With Muslims That Allah Is Indescribable by TenQ: 9:31am On Mar 19, 2023
Muslims are quick to claim that Allah is Indescribable and that nothing can be compared with him. This argument is used especially when they try to show that Allah cannot incarnate into a human form as claimed by Christians that God the Word became a Human incarnate as Christ Jesus.

Here, I want to show how Allah is indeed indescribable through his many shapes.

1. Allah: who has two Right Hands on his right shoulder

Sunan an-Nasa'i 5379
It was narrated from 'Abdullah bin 'Amr bin Al-'As that:
The Prophet [SAW] said: "Those who are just and fair will be with Allah, Most High, on thrones of light, at the right hand of the Most Merciful, those who are just in their rulings and in their dealings with their families and those of whom they are in charge." Muhammad (one of the narrators) said in his Hadith: "And both of His hands are right hands."
Sunan an-Nasa'i 5379 : Book 49, Hadith 1: Vol. 6, Book 49, Hadith 5381
Graduation: Sahih


Here we see that one of the distinguishing characteristics is that Allah does NOT have a left hand but he has two hands BOTH on his right shoulder. You will note that apart from in birth defects, there is no being like this.

The Origin of this hadith:
The Jews were found of tricking Mohammed with bogus narrations from their religion which the unlearned Mohammed will incorporate into his religion. This is one of them. They described to Mohammed the power of God and Mohammed added even to their narratives


2. Allah: with proper Left and Right Hands

Abdullah b. 'Umar reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) saying:
Allah, the Exalted and Glorious, would fold the Heavens on the Day of Judgment and then He would place them on His right hand and say: I am the Lord; where are the haughty and where are the proud (today)? He would fold the' earth (placing it) on the left hand and say: I am the Lord; where are the haughty and where are the proud (today)?
Sahih Muslim 2788a: Book 52, Hadith 7
Graduation: Sahih



Here we see that sometimes, Allah can have his two hands on both his left and right shoulders especially on the day of judgement. In other words, except Mohammed is fabricating narrations about Allah, Muslims should be confused about recognizing their Allah.

3. Allah: who looks like the Da'jjal (with the exception of the eye)

‘Ubadah ibn al-Samit reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Verily, I have told you so much about the False Messiah that I fear you will not understand. Verily, the False Messiah is a short man, pigeon toed, curly haired, with one eye that is blind, neither protruding nor sunken. If you are confused about him, then know that your Lord does not have one eye.”
Source: Sunan Abī Dāwūd 4320
Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Al-Albani


It is amazing that Mohammed did not compare the false Messiah with the real Messiah. He compared Da'jjal with Allah AND it seems that the basic difference is that Allah is not one eyed. The Da'jjal is short, fat AND one eyed

4. Allah: who is a Young Man
Mohammed claimed:

"I saw my Lord in the form of a young man having plenty of curly hair in a green dress."

Narrator: [/b]Abdullah bin Abbas | The narrator: Ibn Taymiyyah |
[b]Source:
Statement of Dressing the Jahmiyyah,
page or number: 7/290
| A summary of the hadeeth’s verdict: Sahih
Graduation: It was included by Ibn Uday in ((Al-Kamil fi Al-Du’afa’) (2/260), Al-Bayhaqi in ((The Names and Attributes)) (938), and Ibn Al-Jawzi in ((The Infinite Illnesses)) (16) with a slight difference
[/quote]

Let me also give you the Arabic link
https://www.dorar.net/h/9k1WPsJH

Here Mohammed compared his Allah with a YOUNG man with curly hair. Who are those Muslims still insisting that there is nothing comparable to Allah! Is it their wishful thinking?

5. Allah: who is yet Unknown but another form with covered a "shin"

Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 93 :: Hadith 532
Narrated Anas:

The Prophet said, "The believers will be kept (waiting) on the Day of Resurrection so long that they will become worried and say, "Let us ask somebody to intercede far us with our Lord so that He may relieve us from our place.
....

Volume 9, Book 93, Number 532s:
...
Let every nation follow what they used to worship,' and now we are waiting for our Lord.' Then the Almighty will come to them in a shape other than the one which they saw the first time, and He will say, 'I am your Lord,' and they will say , 'You are not our Lord.' And none will speak: to Him then but the Prophets, and then it will be said to them, 'Do you know any sign by which you can recognize Him?' They will say. 'The Shin,' and so Allah will then uncover His Shin whereupon every believer will prostrate before Him and there will remain those who used to prostrate before Him just for showing off and for gaining good reputation.
.....


Here we see Allah coming to Muslims in ANOTHER shape which Muslims feel is beneath Allah . If not because Allah showed the Muslim his legs, they would have rejected their God.

Conclusion:
You can see that it seems the reason why Allah is Indescribable is simply because he transforms into several shapes and forms so that it is difficult to pin him down to one shape



I humbly ask my Muslim friend to help me answer these questions
Questions:
1. What does the shin of Allah look like?
What is the distinguishing features?
2. What then is the real shape of Allah?
(Is Allah a Transformer?)
3. Why do you think Mohammed compared Allah to the Da'jjal rather than comparing Jesus to the Da'jjal?
(After all, the Da'jjal is a man as Jesus is a man)
4. On the day of Resurrection, why would Muslims be waiting for the one to intercede for them? Where was Mohammed (the Muslims Intercessor) at this time the Muslims were rejecting Allah who came in another form to them?




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Re: I Now Agree With Muslims That Allah Is Indescribable by TenQ: 12:49pm On Mar 19, 2023
I'm so sorry that the questions for today even though very simple are difficult for honest Muslims to answer.


Questions:
1. What does the shin of Allah look like?
What is the distinguishing features?
2. What then is the real shape of Allah?
(Is Allah a Transformer?)
3. Why do you think Mohammed compared Allah to the Da'jjal rather than comparing Jesus to the Da'jjal?
(After all, the Da'jjal is a man as Jesus is a man)
4. On the day of Resurrection, why would Muslims be waiting for the one to intercede for them? Where was Mohammed (the Muslims Intercessor) at this time the Muslims were rejecting Allah who came in another form to them?


If you don't know how the shin of Allah should look like, how will you distinguish Allah's shin from Mohammed's shin?
Re: I Now Agree With Muslims That Allah Is Indescribable by shadeyinka(m): 1:15pm On Mar 19, 2023
TenQ:
I'm so sorry that the questions for today even though very simple are difficult for honest Muslims to answer.


Questions:
1. What does the shin of Allah look like?
What is the distinguishing features?
2. What then is the real shape of Allah?
(Is Allah a Transformer?)
3. Why do you think Mohammed compared Allah to the Da'jjal rather than comparing Jesus to the Da'jjal?
(After all, the Da'jjal is a man as Jesus is a man)
4. On the day of Resurrection, why would Muslims be waiting for the one to intercede for them? Where was Mohammed (the Muslims Intercessor) at this time the Muslims were rejecting Allah who came in another form to them?


If you don't know how the shin of Allah should look like, how will you distinguish Allah's shin from Mohammed's shin?

It is so easy to burst these Muslims. All of them feigning Superman have become deaf and dumb especially Antichristian with all his copy-paste posts.

We are waiting!

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Re: I Now Agree With Muslims That Allah Is Indescribable by TenQ: 2:09pm On Mar 19, 2023
shadeyinka:

It is so easy to burst these Muslims. All of them feigning Superman have become deaf and dumb especially Antichristian with all his copy-paste posts.

We are waiting!
Of course!
Antichristian himself has accused me of copy-paste before.

Unfortunately, all these is from their own very books. The hadiths are ALL Sahih according to their scholars!
Re: I Now Agree With Muslims That Allah Is Indescribable by shadeyinka(m): 2:33pm On Mar 19, 2023
TenQ:

Of course!
Antichristian himself has accused me of copy-paste before.

Unfortunately, all these is from their own very books. The hadiths are ALL Sahih according to their scholars!
Just watch how they'll suddenly become deaf and dumb .
They don't teach these things in the mosques!

LOL!
Re: I Now Agree With Muslims That Allah Is Indescribable by NairaLTQ: 2:35pm On Mar 19, 2023
TenQ:
I'm so sorry that the questions for today even though very simple are difficult for honest Muslims to answer.


Questions:
1. What does the shin of Allah look like?
What is the distinguishing features?
2. What then is the real shape of Allah?
(Is Allah a Transformer?)
3. Why do you think Mohammed compared Allah to the Da'jjal rather than comparing Jesus to the Da'jjal?
(After all, the Da'jjal is a man as Jesus is a man)
4. On the day of Resurrection, why would Muslims be waiting for the one to intercede for them? Where was Mohammed (the Muslims Intercessor) at this time the Muslims were rejecting Allah who came in another form to them?


If you don't know how the shin of Allah should look like, how will you distinguish Allah's shin from Mohammed's shin?

You expect Muslims to be able to answer these questions after you just gave them hadiths that will make their job impossible.

You get time sha!
Re: I Now Agree With Muslims That Allah Is Indescribable by TenQ: 2:41pm On Mar 19, 2023
NairaLTQ:

You expect Muslims to be able to answer these questions after you just gave them hadiths that will make their job impossible.

You get time sha!
I always get their time o!

1. The weakness of Islam is that they are not allowed to ask questions specifically that (according to Allah):they wouldn't loose their faith.

2. The inconsistence of their hadiths is another thing one can write a whole encyclopedia on. One hadith say Allah has no left hand and another is saying Allah has both left and right hand. Both hadiths are Sahih: which then do we take


Why I do this?
I hope Muslims through reason will become free from the lies of Islam which has kept them in bondage and embrace Jesus the Messiah who will give them eternal life
Re: I Now Agree With Muslims That Allah Is Indescribable by advocatejare(m): 3:55pm On Mar 19, 2023
TenQ:

Of course!
Antichristian himself has accused me of copy-paste before.

Unfortunately, all these is from their own very books. The hadiths are ALL Sahih according to their scholars!
You’re are right, their Quran and Hadith give the description of Allah as depicted below

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Re: I Now Agree With Muslims That Allah Is Indescribable by advocatejare(m): 4:11pm On Mar 19, 2023
TenQ:
Muslims are quick to claim that Allah is Indescribable and that nothing can be compared with him. This argument is used especially when they try to show that Allah cannot incarnate into a human form as claimed by Christians that God the Word became a Human incarnate as Christ Jesus.

Here, I want to show how Allah is indeed indescribable through his many shapes.

1. Allah: who has two Right Hands on his right shoulder

Sunan an-Nasa'i 5379
It was narrated from 'Abdullah bin 'Amr bin Al-'As that:
The Prophet [SAW] said: "Those who are just and fair will be with Allah, Most High, on thrones of light, at the right hand of the Most Merciful, those who are just in their rulings and in their dealings with their families and those of whom they are in charge." Muhammad (one of the narrators) said in his Hadith: "And both of His hands are right hands."
Sunan an-Nasa'i 5379 : Book 49, Hadith 1: Vol. 6, Book 49, Hadith 5381
Graduation: Sahih


Here we see that one of the distinguishing characteristics is that Allah does NOT have a left hand but he has two hands BOTH on his right shoulder. You will note that apart from in birth defects, there is no being like this.

The Origin of this hadith:
The Jews were found of tricking Mohammed with bogus narrations from their religion which the unlearned Mohammed will incorporate into his religion. This is one of them. They described to Mohammed the power of God and Mohammed added even to their narratives


2. Allah: with proper Left and Right Hands

Abdullah b. 'Umar reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) saying:
Allah, the Exalted and Glorious, would fold the Heavens on the Day of Judgment and then He would place them on His right hand and say: I am the Lord; where are the haughty and where are the proud (today)? He would fold the' earth (placing it) on the left hand and say: I am the Lord; where are the haughty and where are the proud (today)?
Sahih Muslim 2788a: Book 52, Hadith 7
Graduation: Sahih



Here we see that sometimes, Allah can have his two hands on both his left and right shoulders especially on the day of judgement. In other words, except Mohammed is fabricating narrations about Allah, Muslims should be confused about recognizing their Allah.

3. Allah: who looks like the Da'jjal (with the exception of the eye)

‘Ubadah ibn al-Samit reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Verily, I have told you so much about the False Messiah that I fear you will not understand. Verily, the False Messiah is a short man, pigeon toed, curly haired, with one eye that is blind, neither protruding nor sunken. If you are confused about him, then know that your Lord does not have one eye.”
Source: Sunan Abī Dāwūd 4320
Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Al-Albani


It is amazing that Mohammed did not compare the false Messiah with the real Messiah. He compared Da'jjal with Allah AND it seems that the basic difference is that Allah is not one eyed. The Da'jjal is short, fat AND one eyed

4. Allah: who is a Young Man
Mohammed claimed:

"I saw my Lord in the form of a young man having plenty of curly hair in a green dress."

Narrator: [/b]Abdullah bin Abbas | The narrator: Ibn Taymiyyah |
[b]Source:
Statement of Dressing the Jahmiyyah,
page or number: 7/290
| A summary of the hadeeth’s verdict: Sahih
Graduation: It was included by Ibn Uday in ((Al-Kamil fi Al-Du’afa’) (2/260), Al-Bayhaqi in ((The Names and Attributes)) (938), and Ibn Al-Jawzi in ((The Infinite Illnesses)) (16) with a slight difference


Let me also give you the Arabic link
https://www.dorar.net/h/9k1WPsJH

Here Mohammed compared his Allah with a YOUNG man with curly hair. Who are those Muslims still insisting that there is nothing comparable to Allah! Is it their wishful thinking?

5. Allah: who is yet Unknown but another form with covered a "shin"

Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 93 :: Hadith 532
Narrated Anas:

The Prophet said, "The believers will be kept (waiting) on the Day of Resurrection so long that they will become worried and say, "Let us ask somebody to intercede far us with our Lord so that He may relieve us from our place.
....

Volume 9, Book 93, Number 532s:
...
Let every nation follow what they used to worship,' and now we are waiting for our Lord.' Then the Almighty will come to them in a shape other than the one which they saw the first time, and He will say, 'I am your Lord,' and they will say , 'You are not our Lord.' And none will speak: to Him then but the Prophets, and then it will be said to them, 'Do you know any sign by which you can recognize Him?' They will say. 'The Shin,' and so Allah will then uncover His Shin whereupon every believer will prostrate before Him and there will remain those who used to prostrate before Him just for showing off and for gaining good reputation.
.....


Here we see Allah coming to Muslims in ANOTHER shape which Muslims feel is beneath Allah . If not because Allah showed the Muslim his legs, they would have rejected their God.

Conclusion:
You can see that it seems the reason why Allah is Indescribable is simply because he transforms into several shapes and forms so that it is difficult to pin him down to one shape



I humbly ask my Muslim friend to help be answer these questions
Questions:
1. What does the shin of Allah look like?
What is the distinguishing features?
2. What then is the real shape of Allah?
(Is Allah a Transformer?)
3. Why do you think Mohammed compared Allah to the Da'jjal rather than comparing Jesus to the Da'jjal?
(After all, the Da'jjal is a man as Jesus is a man)
4. On the day of Resurrection, why would Muslims be waiting for the one to intercede for them? Where was Mohammed (the Muslims Intercessor) at this time the Muslims were rejecting Allah who came in another form to them?




Cc:
LegalWolf Vanessa7 AntiChristian Empiree, Rash4ductluv, BabaHeekmat, Haekymbahd, motayoayinde, drlateef, Thatfairguy1, MrCodeSolo , Hisbah21, thatsleepboy1 , Lordmoh , OBALOLA55, x123xlolls , Lukuluku69 , mhmsadyq, Ibsaq , Herkeym001 , Sulasa07 , hakeemhakeem , abduljabbar4 ,olaalekan ,Friend22 , uthlaw , Exc2000 , AbuTwins ,Akhirastriver ,Akinbahm , Sino , KayB , youngdroly , jaggabban , ukeleh , Realismailakabir , Bami8064 Greatgr , Gaskiyamagana Compton11 , Alfarouq , MrCodeSolo Satmaniac saintHot, drlateef, Donkmore
Akinbahm , IMEI , FATHAT
You have asked a very good question. Unfortunately these people may not respond, they are very ignorant.
AntiChristian go and call Lucas aka Lukman your role model

Re: I Now Agree With Muslims That Allah Is Indescribable by TenQ: 5:42pm On Mar 19, 2023
advocatejare:

You’re are right, their Quran and Hadith give the description of Allah as depicted below
Sometimes I wonder if the average Muslim in the Mosque is taught this!

Or could it be that they know but they don't care?

What should be their response if they now know?
Re: I Now Agree With Muslims That Allah Is Indescribable by TenQ: 5:45pm On Mar 19, 2023
advocatejare:

You have asked a very good question. Unfortunately these people may not respond, they are very ignorant.
AntiChristian go and call Lucas aka Lukman your role model
Muslims are vehement that Allah CANNOT INCARNATE into any other forms yet we see it in worse form in their religion.

Why for God's sake would Mohammed compare Allah with the Da'jjal?

It makes no iota of sense!
Re: I Now Agree With Muslims That Allah Is Indescribable by NairaLTQ: 5:51pm On Mar 19, 2023
TenQ:

I always get their time o!

1. The weakness of Islam is that they are not allowed to ask questions specifically that (according to Allah):they wouldn't loose their faith.

2. The inconsistence of their hadiths is another thing one can write a whole encyclopedia on. One hadith say Allah has no left hand and another is saying Allah has both left and right hand. Both hadiths are Sahih: which then do we take


Why I do this?
I hope Muslims through reason will become free from the lies of Islam which has kept them in bondage and embrace Jesus the Messiah who will give them eternal life
Good luck to you o.
I don't have that kind of patience!

Even when they hear the truth it doesn't move them one bit. They hope they can defend themselves with the phrase "we mean well and we prayed 5 times a day thinking it was you" to God!

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Re: I Now Agree With Muslims That Allah Is Indescribable by orisa37: 6:30pm On Mar 19, 2023
I AGREE TOO.
Re: I Now Agree With Muslims That Allah Is Indescribable by TenQ: 8:06pm On Mar 19, 2023
orisa37:
I AGREE TOO.
Of course, one can take a horse to the river, it's another thing entirely to make it drink water.

We'll shine the light, let he who delights in the truth open his eyes.

Even though, they are not commenting, they have read the post and this is sufficient for me
Re: I Now Agree With Muslims That Allah Is Indescribable by TenQ: 8:09pm On Mar 19, 2023
shadeyinka:

Just watch how they'll suddenly become deaf and dumb .
They don't teach these things in the mosques!

LOL!

I agree with you. Of a Truth, they've become Deaf and Dumb

LOL
Re: I Now Agree With Muslims That Allah Is Indescribable by advocatejare(m): 10:12pm On Mar 19, 2023
TenQ:

Sometimes I wonder if the average Muslim in the Mosque is taught this!

Or could it be that they know but they don't care?

What should be their response if they now know?
They only see what they ask them to see, BaALLAH has blinded their eyes
Re: I Now Agree With Muslims That Allah Is Indescribable by TenQ: 12:00am On Mar 20, 2023
advocatejare:

They only see what they ask them to see, BaALLAH has blinded their eyes
Too many things is just wrong with Islam as a religion.
Too many lies they tell to duck tape other lies and fabrications that their scholars have made for them.

Unfortunately, they believe that God will OVERLOOK their error by considering the fact that they were RELIGIOUS on earth.

You will notice that this post is seriously embarrassing for them to even pretend they have read it. Small-small, the truth will set in their hearts in Jesus name!
Re: I Now Agree With Muslims That Allah Is Indescribable by shadeyinka(m): 12:05am On Mar 20, 2023
TenQ:


I agree with you. Of a Truth, they've become Deaf and Dumb

LOL
Thanks OP for this post. This is crazy!
Not one of them can answer your questions

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You have been presented facts from your books, what do you have to say,?

The Op said:

Questions:
1. What does the shin of Allah look like?
What is the distinguishing features?
2. What then is the real shape of Allah?
(Is Allah a Transformer?)
3. Why do you think Mohammed compared Allah to the Da'jjal rather than comparing Jesus to the Da'jjal?
(After all, the Da'jjal is a man as Jesus is a man)
4. On the day of Resurrection, why would Muslims be waiting for the one to intercede for them? Where was Mohammed (the Muslims Intercessor) at this time the Muslims were rejecting Allah who came in another form to them?
Re: I Now Agree With Muslims That Allah Is Indescribable by TenQ: 7:46am On Mar 20, 2023
Good Morning all,
See how they have become mute, deaf and dumb. Are you ASHAMED of your Religion?

Muslims are quick to claim that Allah is Indescribable and that nothing can be compared with him. This argument is used especially when they try to show that Allah cannot incarnate into a human form as claimed by Christians that God the Word became a Human incarnate as Christ Jesus.

Here, I want to show how Allah is indeed indescribable through his many shapes.

1. Allah: who has two Right Hands on his right shoulder

Sunan an-Nasa'i 5379
It was narrated from 'Abdullah bin 'Amr bin Al-'As that:
The Prophet [SAW] said: "Those who are just and fair will be with Allah, Most High, on thrones of light, at the right hand of the Most Merciful, those who are just in their rulings and in their dealings with their families and those of whom they are in charge." Muhammad (one of the narrators) said in his Hadith: "And both of His hands are right hands."
Sunan an-Nasa'i 5379 : Book 49, Hadith 1: Vol. 6, Book 49, Hadith 5381
Graduation: Sahih


Here we see that one of the distinguishing characteristics is that Allah does NOT have a left hand but he has two hands BOTH on his right shoulder. You will note that apart from in birth defects, there is no being like this.

The Origin of this hadith:
The Jews were found of tricking Mohammed with bogus narrations from their religion which the unlearned Mohammed will incorporate into his religion. This is one of them. They described to Mohammed the power of God and Mohammed added even to their narratives


2. Allah: with proper Left and Right Hands

Abdullah b. 'Umar reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) saying:
Allah, the Exalted and Glorious, would fold the Heavens on the Day of Judgment and then He would place them on His right hand and say: I am the Lord; where are the haughty and where are the proud (today)? He would fold the' earth (placing it) on the left hand and say: I am the Lord; where are the haughty and where are the proud (today)?
Sahih Muslim 2788a: Book 52, Hadith 7
Graduation: Sahih



Here we see that sometimes, Allah can have his two hands on both his left and right shoulders especially on the day of judgement. In other words, except Mohammed is fabricating narrations about Allah, Muslims should be confused about recognizing their Allah.

3. Allah: who looks like the Da'jjal (with the exception of the eye)

‘Ubadah ibn al-Samit reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Verily, I have told you so much about the False Messiah that I fear you will not understand. Verily, the False Messiah is a short man, pigeon toed, curly haired, with one eye that is blind, neither protruding nor sunken. If you are confused about him, then know that your Lord does not have one eye.”
Source: Sunan Abī Dāwūd 4320
Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Al-Albani


It is amazing that Mohammed did not compare the false Messiah with the real Messiah. He compared Da'jjal with Allah AND it seems that the basic difference is that Allah is not one eyed. The Da'jjal is short, fat AND one eyed

4. Allah: who is a Young Man
Mohammed claimed:

"I saw my Lord in the form of a young man having plenty of curly hair in a green dress."

Narrator: [/b]Abdullah bin Abbas | The narrator: Ibn Taymiyyah |
[b]Source:
Statement of Dressing the Jahmiyyah,
page or number: 7/290
| A summary of the hadeeth’s verdict: Sahih
Graduation: It was included by Ibn Uday in ((Al-Kamil fi Al-Du’afa’) (2/260), Al-Bayhaqi in ((The Names and Attributes)) (938), and Ibn Al-Jawzi in ((The Infinite Illnesses)) (16) with a slight difference
[/quote]

Let me also give you the Arabic link
https://www.dorar.net/h/9k1WPsJH

Here Mohammed compared his Allah with a YOUNG man with curly hair. Who are those Muslims still insisting that there is nothing comparable to Allah! Is it their wishful thinking?

5. Allah: who is yet Unknown but another form with covered a "shin"

Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 93 :: Hadith 532
Narrated Anas:

The Prophet said, "The believers will be kept (waiting) on the Day of Resurrection so long that they will become worried and say, "Let us ask somebody to intercede far us with our Lord so that He may relieve us from our place.
....

Volume 9, Book 93, Number 532s:
...
Let every nation follow what they used to worship,' and now we are waiting for our Lord.' Then the Almighty will come to them in a shape other than the one which they saw the first time, and He will say, 'I am your Lord,' and they will say , 'You are not our Lord.' And none will speak: to Him then but the Prophets, and then it will be said to them, 'Do you know any sign by which you can recognize Him?' They will say. 'The Shin,' and so Allah will then uncover His Shin whereupon every believer will prostrate before Him and there will remain those who used to prostrate before Him just for showing off and for gaining good reputation.
.....


Here we see Allah coming to Muslims in ANOTHER shape which Muslims feel is beneath Allah . If not because Allah showed the Muslim his legs, they would have rejected their God.

Conclusion:
You can see that it seems the reason why Allah is Indescribable is simply because he transforms into several shapes and forms so that it is difficult to pin him down to one shape



I humbly ask my Muslim friend to help me answer these questions
Questions:
1. What does the shin of Allah look like?
What is the distinguishing features?
2. What then is the real shape of Allah?
(Is Allah a Transformer?)
3. Why do you think Mohammed compared Allah to the Da'jjal rather than comparing Jesus to the Da'jjal?
(After all, the Da'jjal is a man as Jesus is a man)
4. On the day of Resurrection, why would Muslims be waiting for the one to intercede for them? Where was Mohammed (the Muslims Intercessor) at this time the Muslims were rejecting Allah who came in another form to them?




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Re: I Now Agree With Muslims That Allah Is Indescribable by orisa37: 8:12am On Mar 20, 2023
GOD IS EVERYTHING.
GOD IS ALLAH TO THE ARABS.
GOD IS JESUS CHRIST TO THE CHRISTIANS.
GOD IS I AM THAT I AM.
Re: I Now Agree With Muslims That Allah Is Indescribable by TenQ: 8:24am On Mar 20, 2023
orisa37:
GOD IS EVERYTHING.
GOD IS ALLAH TO THE ARABS.
GOD IS JESUS CHRIST TO THE CHRISTIANS.
GOD IS I AM THAT I AM.


God is a TITLE for the CREATOR, but who is HE?

The name of the God of the Jews is Yahweh
The name of the God of the Christians is Yahweh
The name of the God of the Muslims is Allah

Allah is NOT Yahweh: Ask any Muslim

Muslims are commanded to kill Jews and Christians except they pay protection fee called Jizya.

You probably sincerely do not know that the Creator of the Yoruba or Igbo traditional religion is Different from the Creator of the Muslims and Christians and Jews.


Ask Muslims if they worship the EXACT same God as the Jews or Christians.


I have described Allah according to Muslim SOURCES, is that how your own God look like?
Re: I Now Agree With Muslims That Allah Is Indescribable by orisa37: 8:34am On Mar 20, 2023
YOUR DESCRIPTION IS YOUR OPINION AND IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE ANYWHERE.

YHWH IS HEBREW.
YAHWEH IS GREEK.
ELOHIN IS JEW.
THE LORD IS ENGLISH.
JEHOVAH IS AMERICAN CATHOLIC.
GOD IS OLODUMARE, GOD, THE SUPREME SPIRIT.
Re: I Now Agree With Muslims That Allah Is Indescribable by TenQ: 8:37am On Mar 20, 2023
orisa37:
YOUR DESCRIPTION IS YOUR OPINION AND IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE ANYWHERE.
Do you mean the Description of Allah?
Re: I Now Agree With Muslims That Allah Is Indescribable by TenQ: 9:03am On Mar 20, 2023
I have described Allah exactly as found in Muslim's Islamic literatures. It is not my fault if Muslims are ashamed of what is written in their books.

This is exactly why they've bee mute: my questions have been difficult to answer



orisa37:
YOUR DESCRIPTION IS YOUR OPINION AND IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE ANYWHERE.

YHWH IS HEBREW.
YAHWEH IS GREEK.
ELOHIN IS JEW.
THE LORD IS ENGLISH.
JEHOVAH IS AMERICAN CATHOLIC.
GOD IS OLODUMARE, GOD, THE SUPREME SPIRIT.
Completely Wrong Sir

Jehovah is the Latinised version of Yahweh just like Jesus is the latinised version of Yehoshua.

The Olodumare of Yoruba mythology is NOT Allah is he?

YHWH is Yahweh written without the vowels in the old Hebrew. The old Semitic languages which did not have vowels, the new Semitic languages does.

El-ohim is the Singular-Plural of El-oha meaning DEITY!
Al-Lah means DEITY-LAH.
Al-Lah mean DEITY (literally the God)

It's just like the TITLE PRESIDENT:
All Presidents are not the same!

Is Joe Biden the same as Muhammadu Buhari?

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Re: I Now Agree With Muslims That Allah Is Indescribable by advocatejare(m): 10:54am On Mar 20, 2023
TenQ:

Too many things is just wrong with Islam as a religion.
Too many lies they tell to duck tape other lies and fabrications that their scholars have made for them.

Unfortunately, they believe that God will OVERLOOK their error by considering the fact that they were RELIGIOUS on earth.

You will notice that this post is seriously embarrassing for them to even pretend they have read it. Small-small, the truth will set in their hearts in Jesus name!
I like the hadith you shared that exposed Allah’s plan to put all of them In hellfire
Re: I Now Agree With Muslims That Allah Is Indescribable by TenQ: 11:29am On Mar 20, 2023
advocatejare:

I like the hadith you shared that exposed Allah’s plan to put all of them In hellfire

Quran 19:68-72
68. By your Lord, We will round them up, and the devils, then We will bring them around Hell, on their knees.
69. Then, out of every sect, We will snatch those most defiant to the Most Merciful.
70. We are fully aware of those most deserving to scorch in it.
71. There is not one of you but will go down to it (Hell) . This has been an unavoidable decree of your Lord.
72. Then We will rescue those who were devout, and leave the wrongdoers in it, on their knees.


The Question they dont ask is that:
"How long will Muslims stay in Hell before their Parole?"


1 Year
2 Years
10 years
100 Years
1 Million years


They don't bother to ask!

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Re: I Now Agree With Muslims That Allah Is Indescribable by advocatejare(m): 12:58pm On Mar 20, 2023
TenQ:


Quran 19:68-72
68. By your Lord, We will round them up, and the devils, then We will bring them around Hell, on their knees.
69. Then, out of every sect, We will snatch those most defiant to the Most Merciful.
70. We are fully aware of those most deserving to scorch in it.
71. There is not one of you but will go down to it (Hell) . This has been an unavoidable decree of your Lord.
72. Then We will rescue those who were devout, and leave the wrongdoers in it, on their knees.


The Question they dont ask is that:
"How long will Muslims stay in Hell before their Parole?"


1 Year
2 Years
10 years
100 Years
1 Million years


They don't bother to ask!
If only they know that no one enters hellfire and come out, but they don’t read like their books tell to ask those that have been reading the books before them

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Re: I Now Agree With Muslims That Allah Is Indescribable by TenQ: 1:39pm On Mar 20, 2023
advocatejare:

If only they know that no one enters hellfire and come out, but they don’t read like their books tell to ask those that have been reading the books before them
Unfortunately, they've so much inoculated themselves against the gospel from infancy. They reject anything about Christ that may lead them to heaven but accept the mundane things that has nothing to do with Salvation.

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Re: I Now Agree With Muslims That Allah Is Indescribable by FxMasterz: 4:39pm On Mar 20, 2023
TenQ:

Unfortunately, they've so much inoculated themselves against the gospel from infancy. They reject anything about Christ that may lead them to heaven but accept the mundane things that has nothing to do with Salvation.
I tell you. How can washing of head, ears and feet with water cleanse a spiritual entity such as a soul? How can one be so deceived to believe that his soul is being cleansed while pouring water on the body? Very mundane indeed.
Re: I Now Agree With Muslims That Allah Is Indescribable by FxMasterz: 6:03pm On Mar 20, 2023
Muslims are seriously praying for this thread to buried down down as fast as possible.
Re: I Now Agree With Muslims That Allah Is Indescribable by Techobeys: 6:10pm On Mar 20, 2023
Anything you can’t describe is a lie
Re: I Now Agree With Muslims That Allah Is Indescribable by FxMasterz: 6:10pm On Mar 20, 2023
NairaLTQ:

You expect Muslims to be able to answer these questions after you just gave them hadiths that will make their job impossible.

You get time sha!
You don't know these guys. Even when you quote from their Hadith, they have the habit of saying you're lying. When you ask them whether you're the one lying or the Hadith you quoted from, they'll start looking for Bible verses to quote out of context to derail the topic. That's their stock in trade. The fact that they're keeping mute on this means they're hard hit.

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