NNTR:
Hmm ....

You're way too far down the rabbit hole bro. I had a peer look, and I resigned to doing a smh

He came into His creation as Jesus, because of many reasons, which I'll will list a few for you
1. In order to operate legally and lawfully on earth, one requires a human being body, hence God aka YHWH, aka Yahweh, required a human being body and/or flesh.
2. The name Jesus actually, in Hebrew is Yahshua, and in fact means, Yahweh Saves, or Salvation comes from Yahweh or Yahweh gives Salvation
3. The legal, lawful and legitimate way for entry into earth and to operate is via the door, hence the reason why God asked for Mary's consent first to use her door

Yes, God is known as I AM, I AM, aka I AM, that, I AM, but the Tetragrammaton, transliterated in four letters as YHWH or JHVH and/or articulated as Yahweh or Jehovah is not God's personal name (i.e. YHWH, aka Yahweh or even Jehovah, is not God's personal name.)

Yahweh or Jehovah, is a verbalisation of the tetragrammaton YHWH, and it is a descriptive expression, making a declaration that God will become that He will become.

It is within God's power to be I AM then fill in the blanks, aka YHWH, aka, the tetragrammaton, verbalised as Yahweh or Jehovah, and is capable of SENDING Himself, as the same person, to earth, in the person of Jesus Christ, being God Incarnate.

Reiterating, God's personal name is unknown. Period. In fact, no human being can know God's personal name, but its not just that alone, no human being can physically see God. The means for overcoming the latter (i.e. no human being can physically see God' problem or limitation) has its solution in Jesus Christ, God Incarnate. We get to physically see God and live, (i.e. not die) by proxy, Jesus Christ (i.e. .... Anyone who has seen Me has seen the Father John 14:9b)

The implication of the descriptor, I AM, I AM, which in Hebrew is yhwh and when verbalised is pronounced as Yahweh, is that God will become whatever is necessary for God to carry out and achieve His plan(s), even if that includes, God becoming a human being, a man

You mixing everything up into a chaotic jumble

What Exodus 6:3 was explaining to Moses, is that the experience of God, that the patriarchs Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, had of Him was about Him being Influential and Powerful, but that Reputation wise speaking, the patriarchs Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, never had that opportunity of experiencing what His fame, greatness and pre eminence is

If tbh, when it comes to the crunch, what it would come down to, what would really matter, will be Romans 10:9. There is no two ways about this redeeming grace of God, my brother. Jesus Christ, is the watertight sudden intervention of God's saving grace.

Trust me, YHWH is Jesus Christ and vice versa. What you think Jesus is called Emmanuel for?. Or what does Emmanuel imply, huh?

cc vannessa7

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

vannessa7:
Are you for real, calling Jesus God is breaking the first commandments and is idolatry, Jesus that said he could do nothing of his own, he used to pray to God and during the devil's temptation he referred to God, do you think the devil will tempt God? For what ? Calling Jesus God and saying thank you Jesus for what God has done is one of the reasons the devil live in the church and in christians. Smh

NNTR:


Mark 14:60-65
60The High Priest stood up in the center and asked Yeshua, and he said,
“Do You not answer? Why are these testifying against You?”
61But He was silent, and He did not answer him anything.
And again, The High Priest asked him and said,
“Are you The Messiah, The Son of The Blessed One?”
62But Yeshua said to him,
“I AM THE LIVING GOD, (i.e. I AM aka YHWH pka Jehovah or Yahweh)
and you shall behold The Son of Man sitting at the right hand of Power
and coming on the clouds of Heaven.”
63But The High Priest ripped his tunic and he said,
“Why now do we need witnesses?”
64“Behold, you have heard the blasphemy from HIs own mouth.
How does it appear to you?”
But they all judged that He deserved death.
65And the people began spitting in His face and covering His face and hitting Him,
and they were saying, “Prophesy”,
and the guards were hitting Him on His jaw.

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

vannessa7:



Are you for real, calling Jesus God is breaking the first commandments and is idolatry, Jesus that said he could do nothing of his own, he used to pray to God and during the devil's temptation he referred to God, do you think the devil will tempt God? For what ? Calling Jesus God and saying thank you Jesus for what God has done is one of the reasons the devil live in the church and in christians. Smh

NNTR:
To Every JW and vannessa7, fyi, Jesus called Himself God, Jesus called Himself YHWH
Yahshua pka Jesus is Jehovah and called Himself so

cc Acehart


Mark 14:60-65
60The High Priest stood up in the center and asked Yeshua, and he said,
“Do You not answer? Why are these testifying against You?”
61But He was silent, and He did not answer him anything.
And again, The High Priest asked him and said,
“Are you The Messiah, The Son of The Blessed One?”
62But Yeshua said to him,
“I AM THE LIVING GOD, (i.e. I AM aka YHWH pka Jehovah or Yahweh)
and you shall behold The Son of Man sitting at the right hand of Power
and coming on the clouds of Heaven.”
63But The High Priest ripped his tunic and he said,
“Why now do we need witnesses?”
64“Behold, you have heard the blasphemy from HIs own mouth.
How does it appear to you?”
But they all judged that He deserved death.
65And the people began spitting in His face and covering His face and hitting Him,
and they were saying, “Prophesy”,
and the guards were hitting Him on His jaw.

Janosky:
These Trinitarians

Janosky:
...have gone to extremes to DUBIOUSLY insert :
Mark 14:62
“I AM THE LIVING GOD, (i.e. I AM aka YHWH pka Jehovah or Yahweh).

Janosky:
The guy is even denying Jesus statements of John 3:16 & John 5:37 on this public forum.

Janosky:
Oga, your FORGERY & FALSE claim can NOT stand.

MaxInDHouse:
So who was Jesus pray to?

NNTR:
Luke 18:27
Jesus said,
"The things that are impossible for people to do are possible for God to do."

Your unfamiliarity with the term bilocation, (i.e. or sometimes referred to as multilocation) makes you ask this question

Jesus was setting an example for us, and showing us, how to pray to God, hence thats the reason behind the idea of Jesus praying to Himself

Watch this, it wouldn't be unsurprising to me, if I hear you, say, it's impossible for someone (i.e. God) to be, in two places at one time (i.e. God be in heaven and physically be on earth, at one time)

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

MaxInDHouse:
So who was Jesus calling when he was in agony?

NNTR:
With that act, of setting an example for us to follow or copy, and with it, showing us what to do, in agony situations, similar, less or more like that, who do you think Jesus called upon?

Did Jesus call Himself I AM (i.e. YHWH pka Jehovah), or not?

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

MaxInDHouse:
So who spoke to John the baptist at Jesus' baptism, spoke during transfiguration

MaxInDHouse:
and also responded to Jesus when he said "father glorify your name"?

NNTR:
Matthew 3:17
And suddenly a voice came from heaven, saying,
“This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.”
(i.e. “This is my dearly loved Son, who brings Me great joy.”)

You're going round and/or around in circles, with these your feeble lines of questioning, and they will get you nowhere

1. Did Jesus call Himself, I AM (i.e. YHWH pka Jehovah), or not?
2. Remember the term, bilocation (i.e. or sometimes referred to as multilocation) shared with above?
3. For whose benefit, in that Matthew 3:17, was the hearing of that voice?
4. What about the Son, particularly, is to be pleased about?

Jeremiah 32:17
Ah Lord Jehovah!
behold, thou hast made the heavens and the earth
by thy great power and by thine outstretched arm;
there is nothing too hard for thee,

Your unfamiliarity with the term soliloquy, (i.e. an act of speaking one's thoughts aloud to the hearing of others) makes you ask this question

I wont be surprised, if you are of the frame of mind that, it's impossible for someone (i.e. God) to be, in two places at one time (i.e. God be in heaven and physically be on earth, at one time)

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

MaxInDHouse:
David prophesied about the Christ saying:

“Sit at my right hand Until I place your enemies as a stool for your feet.” Psalms 110:1

Please who is sitting at the right hand and who is the other person in whose right hand the first person is sitting!

NNTR:
Revelation 3:20
Listen!
I am standing at the door and knocking!
If anyone hears My voice and opens the door I will come into his home
and share a meal with him, and he with Me.

Ephesians 3:16-18
16God is wonderful and glorious.
I pray that his Spirit will make you become strong followers
17and that Christ will live in your hearts because of your faith.
Stand firm and be deeply rooted in His love.
18 I pray that you and all God's people will understand what is called wide or long or high or deep.

The person sitting at the right hand and the other person in whose right hand the first person is sitting, is God, the same person, one and only

Now, here are easy questions for you to try your hands on:
1. Please tell me, is it impossible for someone (i.e. in fact, God) to be, in two places at one time (i.e. God be in two positional places, at one time)
2. Did Jesus call Himself, I AM (i.e. YHWH pka Jehovah), or not?
3. Who resides in hearts? (e.g. your heart and every other believers' hearts) Who is the person?
4. If God is incorporeal (i.e. meaning, having no physical existence), then how does one, make visible to the eye of a human being, God that has no physical existence?

Take care how far the in to the rabbit hole you are burrowing

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

MaxInDHouse:
The highlighted is enough to show that you're just a deluded churchgoer!

MaxInDHouse:
If Jesus was talking to himself here on earth just to teach people how to pray he couldn't be talking to himself again in heaven where no human can see him!

NNTR:
You revealed your lack of proper understanding what ekklesia is
Psalm 22:1, 31
1My God, my God, why have You forsaken me?
Why are You so far from helping me, and from the words of my groaning?
31They will come and declare His righteousness
To a people yet to be born--that He has done it [and that it is finished].
Why not could God be talking to Himself. Hmm?
It was for the benefit of David.
You hit the bail on the head, that, in heaven no human can see Go.
So, it was for the benefit of David, to see an incorporeal God and then after to speak prophetically of the remarkable experience and impressive vision he beheld
I am sure Psalm 22:1, 31, seen up there, is above your pay grade to flesh out and even correctly flush out
_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

MaxInDHouse:
If JWs choose to ignore your stupidity it's not that you have anything worthwhile to say but we just don't have your time.

MaxInDHouse:
David saw God speaking to His son in heaven. Psalms 110:1

MaxInDHouse:
Stephen saw God and His son standing at His right hand in heaven! Act 7:56

MaxInDHouse:
Paul said Jesus will rule for a tenure and return the rulership back to God! 1Corinthians 15:25-28

MaxInDHouse:
So your argument is lost my friend go and eat your food!

NNTR:
Out of stupidity, denseness, ignorance, dullness and slowness, you fail to address the question that Jesus Called Himself God, Jesus called Himself YHWH pka Jehovah.

Stop the lie already, because David, in Psalms 110:1, did not see God, but rather, David, in Psalms 110:1 overheard God speaking

Stop another lie already, because, Stephen, in Act 7:56, did not see God, rather, Stephen, in Act 7:56, saw the glory of God and Jesus, standing at the right hand of God, metaphorically speaking. The point being made here, is that, within the Godhead framework, Jesus has equal status to the Father

So?
Doesnt take away the fact that Jesus Called Himself God, Jesus called Himself YHWH pka Jehovah.

Discussion is an exchange of thoughts and knowledge, while argument is an exchange of ego and ignorance.

I have no ignorance to trade you in with, all I have are butt naked facts, truths and realities, so meaning, you're left burying your head in the sand and blindly arguing with yourself

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

MaxInDHouse:
JWs share the same line of thought with the early Christians {John 17:20-23; 1Corinthians 1:10} who believe that Jesus was in actual fact talking to someone who is able to SAVE him not to himself!

During his life on earth, Christ offered up supplications and also petitions, with strong outcries and tears, to the One who was able to save him out of death, and he was favorably heard for his godly fear. Hebrews 5:7

Paul concluded that Jesus was favorably heard.

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ humble yourself and learn from Jehovah's Witnesses, we will teach you freely!

NNTR:
John 10:18
Jesus answered them,
“Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.”
1. Who in John 10:18, said, in three days, He will raise up the temple?
2. What is the name of the person called, who has power to raise dead people back to life?
3. Did Jesus call Himself, I AM (i.e. YHWH pka Jehovah), or not?

Ọmọ, your self conceitedness is going to be your downfall, be the end of you

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

MaxInDHouse:
Funny Churchgoer!

MaxInDHouse:
©Jesus is the temple himself in a spiritual sense so it's inside the temple that believers offer sacred service to God. The former temple was destroyed so by the time God raised Jesus from the dead {Romans 10:9} spiritual temple now replaced the physical.

MaxInDHouse:
©Elijah and Elisha both raised dead people.

MaxInDHouse:
©Misconception that's worrying you

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus did not claim he's God, he said:

"Before Abraham i excited" it's misinterpreted to I AM and even the so called I AM wasn't the correct interpretation of what God said to Moses, God told Moses:

"I will prove to be what i will prove to be"

MaxInDHouse:
So your argument is lost!

NNTR:
1. What is church in its original form?
2. What is the etymology of the word, church
3. What biblically speaking, in the real sense of it, is church?
1 Corinthians 6:19
Do you not know that your body is the temple of The Spirit of Holiness who dwells within you,
whom you have received from God, and you are not your own?
Are you or not, a temple of God?

NNTR:

By strength of whose power did Elijah and Elisha both raise up dead people
Whose influenced did Elijah and Elisha both used to raise dead people?

NNTR post=122168786
The biblical illiterates of 21st century will not be those who cannot read & study the bible but those like you lot JWs, who cannot learn, unlearn & relearn
God said to Moses, I AM, I AM, which essentially is what Jesus seven times said.[/quote:

So if anyone use the phrase "I AM" that makes the person God almighty shey?
Funny Churchgoer!
[quote author=NNTR post=122168786
In the John 8:58 you are referring to, the verbs Jesus uses are in stark contrast with each other: Abraham was, but I AM. There is no doubt that the Israelites understood Jesus’ claim to be the eternal God incarnate, (i.e. God in human being flesh, or God embodied in Jesus, as in meaning, God is given a physical form through Jesus) because the Israelites took up stones to kill Jesus

NNTR post=122168786
Small minds can’t comprehend big stuff like, that Jesus called Himself, I AM (i.e. YHWH pka Jehovah), and used it, just like God did, so they resort to mocking and saying gaslighting things like 'your argument is lost!'.

[sub:
Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.[/sub]

NNTR:
John 10:18
Jesus answered them,
“Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.”

1. Who in John 10:18, said, in three days, He will raise up the temple?
2. What is the name of the person called, who has power to raise dead people back to life?
3. Did Jesus call Himself, I AM (i.e. YHWH pka Jehovah), or not?

Ọmọ, your self conceitedness is going to be your downfall, be the end of you

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

NNTR:
1.

The biblical illiterates of 21st century will not be those who cannot read & study the bible but those like you lot JWs, who cannot learn, unlearn & relearn

God said to Moses, I AM, I AM, which essentially is what Jesus seven times said.

In the John 8:58 you are referring to, the verbs Jesus uses are in stark contrast with each other: Abraham was, but I AM. There is no doubt that the Israelites understood Jesus’ claim to be the eternal God incarnate, (i.e. God in human being flesh, or God embodied in Jesus, as in meaning, God is given a physical form through Jesus) because the Israelites took up stones to kill Jesus

LIAR.
Which chapter and verse did the Israelites say that their Messiah is God Almighty?
You come to this forum to post FALSEHOOD.
But the Jews exposed you @ John 19:7.
SHAME ON YOU!

John 19:7
"The Jews insisted: We have a law, and according to that law he must die, because he claimed to be the Son of God"
You are DECEIVING yourself on this forum.

NNTR:


Small minds can’t comprehend big stuff like, that Jesus called Himself, I AM (i.e. YHWH pka Jehovah), and used it, just like God did, so they resort to mocking and saying gaslighting things like 'your argument is lost!'.

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

NNTR:
1.

The biblical illiterates of 21st century will not be those who cannot read & study the bible but those like you lot JWs, who cannot learn, unlearn & relearn

God said to Moses, I AM, I AM, which essentially is what Jesus seven times said.

In the John 8:58 you are referring to, the verbs Jesus uses are in stark contrast with each other: Abraham was, but I AM. There is no doubt that the Israelites understood Jesus’ claim to be the eternal God incarnate, (i.e. God in human being flesh, or God embodied in Jesus, as in meaning, God is given a physical form through Jesus) because the Israelites took up stones to kill Jesus

LIAR.
Which chapter and verse did the Israelites say that their Messiah is God Almighty?
You come to this forum to post FALSEHOOD.
But the Jews exposed you @ John 19:7.
SHAME ON YOU!

John 19:7
"The Jews insisted: We have a law, and according to that law he must die, because he claimed to be the Son of God"
You are DECEIVING yourself on this forum.

NNTR:


Small minds can’t comprehend big stuff like, that Jesus called Himself, I AM (i.e. YHWH pka Jehovah), and used it, just like God did, so they resort to mocking and saying gaslighting things like 'your argument is lost!'.

NNTR:
I would leave the Trinitarians to speak for themselves

Did Jesus call Himself I AM (i.e. did He call Himself God, or YHWH pka Jehovah) or not?

Why would I deny Jesus statements of John 3:16 & John 5:37? What gain to me, will that be?

Is it that, you have no idea what soliloquy is. Hmm?

Watch this.
Who else besides God, do you know, that knows, what is in people's heart, that know all the intricate thoughts going on in people's heart?

NNTR:
I

1. Did Jesus call Himself God, or YHWH pka Jehovah (i.e. did He call Himself I AM) or not
2. What is etymology of the word, Jehovah?
3. What is the origin of the word, Jehovah?
4. Where or what did the word, Jehovah, come from?

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Oga carry your TWISTING and GIBBERISH outta this forum.

You are not ready to listen to Jesus nor your Bible.

MaxInDHouse:
No i'm not because i'm just one person Jesus said where two or three are gathered that's when he can be in their midst! Matthew 18:20

MaxInDHouse:
So the church is the body (congregation of believers) of Christ not a single Christian!

MaxInDHouse:
They prayed to someone just as Jesus also did! John 11:41-42
So all of them relied on the one who sent them!

MaxInDHouse:
OK they understood him yet they didn't believe him:
are you reading what you're typing at all?
Jesus himself said majority of his audience can't understand him {Matthew 13:14} between you and Jesus who is lying? smiley

So if small minds can't comprehend then it's not the fault of small minds after all they can't comprehend! grin

Janosky:
LIAR.
Which chapter and verse did the Israelites say that their Messiah is God Almighty?
You come to this forum to post FALSEHOOD.
But the Jews exposed you @ John 19:7.
SHAME ON YOU!

Janosky:
John 19:7
"The Jews insisted:
We have a law, and according to that law he must die, because he claimed to be the Son of God"
You are DECEIVING yourself on this forum.

Janosky:
Oga "big mind" changing the holy scriptures.
TUEH!

You DUBIOUSLY insert your FALSE claim into the holy scriptures.

NNTR:
Why not rip 1 Corinthians 6:19 out of your bible then. Duh

Do you see the stupidity in your misyarn now? Where and when you were going on about 'churchgoer'?

The church (i.e. ekklesia) is a biblical and organic movement

You usually run errands for other people. Often people rely on me to do stuff for them
But many times too, I run errands for yourself. I rely on myself to do stuff, accomplish or execute stuff

God is no exception to this rule. God too relied on Himself to do stuff, accomplish or execute stuff. God sent Himself, and relied on Himself that sent Himself

John 10:33
The Jews answered Him,
“It is not for a good work that we are going to stone you
but for blasphemy, because you, being a man, make yourself God.”

Leviticus 24:16
Anyone who blasphemes the Name of the LORD must be stoned to death by the whole community of Israel.
Any native-born Israelite or foreigner among you who blasphemes the Name of the LORD must be put to death.

I'll spell it out for you, since you're slow on the uptake, meaning, you're slow to comprehend or process intellectually, that the Israelites knew that Jesus was calling and referring to Himself as God, and so classed it as blasphemy and were carrying about to effect Leviticus 24:16on Him.

You're just as bad and guilty of misconduct as those Israelites, and I am 150% sure that if the situation should present itself, and Jesus should appear now and say He is God, you, in your small mind, will be among the first, to castigate Jesus and rebuff Him that He is not God

The irony, is that every time you say Jehovah, you are referencing Jesus. Every time to pray to Jehovah, you actually are praying to Jesus

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

NNTR:
Why not rip 1 Corinthians 6:19 out of your bible then. Duh

Do you see the stupidity in your misyarn now? Where and when you were going on about 'churchgoer'?

The church (i.e. ekklesia) is a biblical and organic movement

You usually run errands for other people. Often people rely on me to do stuff for them
But many times too, I run errands for yourself. I rely on myself to do stuff, accomplish or execute stuff

God is no exception to this rule. God too relied on Himself to do stuff, accomplish or execute stuff. God sent Himself, and relied on Himself that sent Himself

John 10:33
The Jews answered Him,
“It is not for a good work that we are going to stone you
but for blasphemy, because you, being a man, make yourself God.”

Leviticus 24:16
Anyone who blasphemes the Name of the LORD must be stoned to death by the whole community of Israel.
Any native-born Israelite or foreigner among you who blasphemes the Name of the LORD must be put to death.

I'll spell it out for you, since you're slow on the uptake, meaning, you're slow to comprehend or process intellectually, that the Israelites knew that Jesus was calling and referring to Himself as God, and so classed it as blasphemy and were carrying about to effect Leviticus 24:16on Him.

You're just as bad and guilty of misconduct as those Israelites, and I am 150% sure that if the situation should present itself, and Jesus should appear now and say He is God, you, in your small mind, will be among the first, to castigate Jesus and rebuff Him that He is not God

The irony, is that every time you say Jehovah, you are referencing Jesus. Every time to pray to Jehovah, you actually are praying to Jesus

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

MaxInDHouse:


Confused Churchgoer!

So if those faithless Jews understood Jesus then what about his disciple Peter whom Jesus commended for saying Jesus is the SON of God? Matthew 16:13-19

Ọmọ Peter said Jesus is the Son of God not God and Jesus commended him!