Tboy222:


It would be wrong to say He died as God , infact it is blasphemy to say He died as God because God can never die.

He took on the weakness of man to die as man in order to win the victory over death as man.

Tboy222:



He didn't die as God for it is impossible for God to die, He died as a man
without blemish, a son of man and son of God ,a perfect sacrifice for
humanity.

So when he died, he left his Godship on the cross or else where right?

AgentNairaland:

As they arrived at April 4 for the remembrance of his dead is the same way they got Dec 25 for his birth with the help of Jewish calendar that is the 14th of Nisan (the day of crucifixion according to John) which is equivalent to March 25 in Roman solar calendar and from March 25 to December 25 is Nine months

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm thanks for the explanation but none of God's servants marked birthday and Jesus commanded us to mark (not the date of his birth) but the date of his death!

MaxInDHouse:


Foreshadow the ultimate sacrifice Jesus will perform with his own life!
The Israelites are to kill the lamb and use its blood to rub their doorpost so that the angel of death may spare them.
The same will happen when God's Kingdom comes because all those who don't have the seal of Jesus' blood will be slaughtered globally!

Where did you get that idea from?

And do you know the lamb was a god of the Egyptian. That slaughtering it was a sign of disrespect from the Israelites?

MaxInDHouse:


Hmmmmmmmmmmmm thanks for the explanation but none of God's servants marked birthday and Jesus commanded us to mark (not the date of his birth) but the date of his death!

You're correct, none of God's servants marked birthday while they are still alive, same way none of God's servants gave directions to remember them after death except Jesus and the reason for this is that because he ate the last supper with his disciples

sonmvayina:


Where did you get that idea from?

And do you know the lamb was a god of the Egyptian. That slaughtering it was a sign of disrespect from the Israelites?

Lamb is a god in Egypt

AgentNairaland:


Lamb is a god in Egypt

Passover is one of the most misunderstood of the Jewish Holidays outside of the Jewish world. Passover has nothing to do with the forgiveness of sin but rather with trust in the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. The lamb was the personification of the highest deity in the Egyptian pantheon. The lamb was the top god to them. The Passover sacrifice of the lamb and putting it's blood on the doorposts of their homes by the children of Israel for all the world to see was a bold public statement made by them. By killing the lamb and putting it's blood on their doorposts, the children of Israel where publically announcing to the entire world that they were not afraid of the false gods of Egypt, or any other false god, but rather put their full trust in the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. The slaughter and public showing of the blood of the lamb was a bold statement telling the rest of the world that their "gods" meant nothing to the Israelites and that the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob was the true God and the only one they feared. They knew that the Egyptians, and possibly the rest of the world, would turn against them because they dared to kill the chief of their "gods", but the put their trust in the true God and did it anyway. The true God protected them and brought them out of bandage and into freedom because of their trust (shown by their action) in Him. So by calling Jesus the "Passover Lamb", you are really saying that he is a false god and deserved to be put to death by those who trust in the true God, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. The Passover lamb was not a sacrifice for sin then, and it never will be. It was, and always will be, a statement to the rest of the world that the one(s) who sacrifice the Passover lamb, do not believe in nor trust in any god other than the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

sonmvayina:


Passover is one of the most misunderstood of the Jewish Holidays outside of the Jewish world. Passover has nothing to do with the forgiveness of sin but rather with trust in the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. The lamb was the personification of the highest deity in the Egyptian pantheon. The lamb was the top god to them. The Passover sacrifice of the lamb and putting it's blood on the doorposts of their homes by the children of Israel for all the world to see was a bold public statement made by them. By killing the lamb and putting it's blood on their doorposts, the children of Israel where publically announcing to the entire world that they were not afraid of the false gods of Egypt, or any other false god, but rather put their full trust in the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. The slaughter and public showing of the blood of the lamb was a bold statement telling the rest of the world that their "gods" meant nothing to the Israelites and that the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob was the true God and the only one they feared. They knew that the Egyptians, and possibly the rest of the world, would turn against them because they dared to kill the chief of their "gods", but the put their trust in the true God and did it anyway. The true God protected them and brought them out of bandage and into freedom because of their trust (shown by their action) in Him. So by calling Jesus the "Passover Lamb", you are really saying that he is a false god and deserved to be put to death by those who trust in the true God, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. The Passover lamb was not a sacrifice for sin then, and it never will be. It was, and always will be, a statement to the rest of the world that the one(s) who sacrifice the Passover lamb, do not believe in nor trust in any god other than the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

The blood of the lamb my own Bible tells me is not your Egyptian gods, what is your Egyptian god lamb looking at when their first sons, daughters and animals were been killed when Pharaoh fails to Obey the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob?

AgentNairaland:



The blood of the lamb my own Bible tells me is not your Egyptian gods, what is your Egyptian god lamb looking at when their first sons, daughters and animals were been killed when Pharaoh fails to Obey the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob?

I don't understand one thing you said...

Please clarify yourself..

sonmvayina:

I don't understand one thing you said...

Please clarify yourself..

The blood of the Lamb Bible says is not your Egyptian Lamb god. The blood of the Lamb in the Bible is powerful than your Egyptian lamb god dat couldn't saved the first child of your people in Egypt when Pharaoh refused to let the Israelites go

AgentNairaland:


The blood of the Lamb Bible says is not your Egyptian Lamb god. The blood of the Lamb in the Bible is powerful than your Egyptian lamb god dat couldn't saved the first child of your people in Egypt when Pharaoh refused to let the Israelites go

You still don't understand anything..

The lamb was slaughtered and the blood, smeared on the door step of the Israelites so that the angel of the lord will passover the house of the Israelites....the lamb was used because the lamb was the personification of the highest deity of the Egyptian....they where showing the Egyptian that they where not scared of them.....and their God was the only God...


The lamb has got nothing to do with the God of the Israelites...
The "lamb of god" is referring to the god of the Egyptian, not the Israelites..


Christianity incorporated the lamb to their religion. Probably to entice the Egyptian into the new religion......

Christianity is just rebranded paganism...

sonmvayina:


You still don't understand anything..

The lamb was slaughtered and the blood, smeared on the door step of the Israelites so that the angel of the lord will passover the house of the Israelites....the lamb was used because the lamb was the personification of the highest deity of the Egyptian....they where showing the Egyptian that they where not scared of them.....and their God was the only God...


The lamb has got nothing to do with the God of the Israelites...
The "lamb of god" is referring to the god of the Egyptian, not the Israelites..


Christianity incorporated the lamb to their religion. Probably to entice the Egyptian into the new religion......

Christianity is just rebranded paganism...

The bolded above is according to your own opinion in which you're entitled to but Biblically, Lamb of God is not your Egyptian gods or goddesses

AgentNairaland:


The bolded above is according to your own opinion in which you're entitled to but Biblically, Lamb of God is not your Egyptian gods or goddesses

So when was it first used

And what was it referring to...

To accept the truth, will be difficult for you the way I am seeing this matter..

Oluromantic:
Don't eat meat: I searched for it in the bible I no see

Jesus was born on dec 25: I search bible I no see am

What relevance to the question.

The only thing significant about jesus is to learn the lessons from his teachings. As for birth and death, they are just fanciful fictions. It's just another version of tortoise and lion story in a christian manner.

Jesus is the Messiah (Christ) God promised the Israelites {Deuteronomy 18:18; Act 3:22} through this man God will establish another covenant with the Israelites {Jeremiah 31:31-33} which they're to take to other nations {Zechariah 8:23} but before then God's people must have laws (rules) that will guide them {Galatians 3:23-24} into the things this promised child will make a global constitution when he begin his rulership {Isaiah 9:6-7} that's why God gave the Israelites laws to prepare their minds ahead for the coming mediator between man and God! 1Timothy 2:5

According to God's laws the Israelites must not copy anything from pagan nations around them {Deuteronomy 12:30} pagan nations do use the birthday celebration as part of their worship to their gods that's why only two cases of birthday celebration was mentioned in the Bible {Genesis 40:20; Matthew 14:6} both celebrants aren't faithful servants of God and you can never ever find a single servant of God who celebrated birthday from Genesis to Revelation and this is in line with the inspired expression written in the Bible book of Ecclesiastes 7:1 in fact a reputable servant of God cursed the day of his birth! Jeremiah 20:14
So when the Christ finally arrived angels rejoice greatly at his birth and made it known to the Israelites through the mouth of shepherds but as the boy grows up there was no record of birthday celebration either by his parents, himself or his faithful disciples.
He actually told his listeners "i have come to fulfill what the prophets told you" Matthew 5:17
Well it was on the very day he was about to surrender his life that he COMMANDED his disciples to commemorate {Luke 22:19} and that's exactly what they did {1Corinthians 11:25 compare to John 15:14} in fact God's Holy Spirit never reminded his disciples to pen down the exact date of Jesus' birth {John 16:12-13} but the day he COMMANDED them to mark was penned down: Nisan 14
So his true disciples today (Jehovah's Witnesses) are doing just what he COMMANDED no addition and no subtraction! Revelations 22:18-19

May you have PEACE!

sonmvayina:


So when was it first used

And what was it referring to...

To accept the truth, will be difficult for you the way I am seeing this matter..

You mean I should accept your ignorance?

AgentNairaland:


You mean I should accept your ignorance?

You are not ready to learn..

When you are...even you yourself will know the difference..

Just continue to wallow in your mud..

sonmvayina:


You are not ready to learn..

When you are...even you yourself will know the difference..

Just continue to wallow in your mud..

That's wonderful, so I should be ready to learn your ignorance. Wow..

Templee333:

The only thing significant about jesus is to learn the lessons from his teachings. As for birth and death, they are just fanciful fictions. It's just another version of tortoise and lion story in a christian manner.

So what stops you from fabricating a better fairytale that people can learn from it?
The fabricators of that story lived thousands of years ago and they're not as civilized nor exposed like you so i think you can do better than them!