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Re: Innoson Motors (IVM) Commissions Her New LNG/CNG Vehicles by 2016v2017: 8:47pm On Apr 20, 2023
Supremos:
Uncle @Lalasticlala

This is a very good and laudable development don't you think so?.

Let's celebrate with Innoson Vehicle Manufacturing (IVM).

We celebrate you Dr Ifediaso Innoson Chukwuma
Re: Innoson Motors (IVM) Commissions Her New LNG/CNG Vehicles by 2016v2017: 8:48pm On Apr 20, 2023
Supremos:
CNG means Compressed Natural Gas

LNG means Liquidified Natural Gas



The importance is that they're clean energy, odourless, has zero carbon emission, cheaper than petroleum motor spirit (PMS) aka Fuel, and diesel
Re: Innoson Motors (IVM) Commissions Her New LNG/CNG Vehicles by Abbeytoy(m): 9:01pm On Apr 20, 2023
The is good and commendable..

I hope team nothing good about Nigeria can now see something good.

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Re: Innoson Motors (IVM) Commissions Her New LNG/CNG Vehicles by FantasyWolf(m): 9:09pm On Apr 20, 2023
New ride for Yahoo boys to chase

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Re: Innoson Motors (IVM) Commissions Her New LNG/CNG Vehicles by Supremos: 9:32pm On Apr 20, 2023
pocom16:


The point I made is that PMS has a constant and regulated price.. if fuel subsidies are removed.. the official price will be let say.. N400

even if all the cars in Nigeria switch to CNG..PMS will still be sold at N400.. as that prices is not influenced by demands or supply of PMS but by the price of crude oil used in processing
I think you're a bit wrong Sir.

The reason government has petroleum pricing regulatory body is because the government is the one subsidizing the product. Subsidizing the product here means that the government is the one paying certain amount of money albeit huge sum, to independent marketers who imports the product. The reason for giving the money to this importers is because they said if they add all the expenses they uncured in the cause of bringing in petrol into the country, that the pump price of the petrol we're buying will be more than what we're buying now. So government has to pay them some amount to offset part of that expenditure, in other to make sure the price is affordable. Haven offset part of the expenditure, the federal government has the right to determine how much fuel has to be sold to the public, that's why Petroleum products pricing regulatory agency PPPRA was established.

I know why I went into details

Now, if the federal government removes subsidy, they won't have right to tell importers how much they will sell their products because you don't know how much expenses they incured in the cause of bringing in the products.

Haven established that, there's no way the price of Petrol will be pegged at certain amount after subsidy is removed,because price is determined by economic law of demand and supply.

Therefore, their won't be any official price for petrol after subsidy is gone.
Market forces of demand and supply and availability, will determine the price.

The price won't be stable.

Just like every other commodity in the market.

People will go for cheaper source of energy to power their automobiles.

If CNG LNG is cheaper than PMS they will go for CNG LNG.

If greater percentage of the people opt for CNG LNG, it will affect PMS because it will no longer be attractive because of high cost of pump price. And when it's no longer attractive, the price will most likely drop.
Re: Innoson Motors (IVM) Commissions Her New LNG/CNG Vehicles by Supremos: 9:35pm On Apr 20, 2023
treatise:

SON isn't different from INEC. I've seen a couple of innoson vehicles that are a few years old, hmmmm
my brother, I have seen brand new Toyota Hilux given to police turn to Scrab. It's not the fault of the vehicle, it's lack of maintenance culture and I don't care altitude of public office holders because it's not their properties. I have seen private Innoson vehicles still sound and classy

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Re: Innoson Motors (IVM) Commissions Her New LNG/CNG Vehicles by porthouse7(f): 9:59pm On Apr 20, 2023
stanluiz:
Who tell you ? Have you been to his factory at Nnewi ?

Innoson car that is exported to other west Africa countries.

Carry your badbelle commot from this thread angry
they can't supply 100 of this bus in one month, no beefing just fact
Re: Innoson Motors (IVM) Commissions Her New LNG/CNG Vehicles by Noblegraphix20(m): 10:11pm On Apr 20, 2023
If this company was owned by Dangote,the federal Government would have band the importation of other cars from other countries..

And will force Nigerian to start using the product...
But since it's made by an igbo man, the federal government no send.
Re: Innoson Motors (IVM) Commissions Her New LNG/CNG Vehicles by pocom16: 10:14pm On Apr 20, 2023
Supremos:
I think you're a bit wrong Sir.

The reason government has petroleum pricing regulatory body is because the government is the one subsidizing the product. Subsidizing the product here means that the government is the one paying certain amount of money albeit huge sum, to independent marketers who imports the product. The reason for giving the money to this importers is because they said if they add all the expenses they uncured in the cause of bringing in petrol into the country, that the pump price of the petrol we're buying will be more than what we're buying now. So government has to pay them some amount to offset part of that expenditure, in other to make sure the price is affordable. Haven offset part of the expenditure, the federal government has the right to determine how much fuel has to be sold to the public, that's why Petroleum products pricing regulatory agency PPPRA was established.

I know why I went into details

Now, if the federal government removes subsidy, they won't have right to tell importers how much they will sell their products because you don't know how much expenses they incured in the cause of bringing in the products.

Haven established that, there's no way the price of Petrol will be pegged at certain amount after subsidy is removed,because price is determined by economic law of demand and supply.

Therefore, their won't be any official price for petrol after subsidy is gone.
Market forces of demand and supply and availability, will determine the price.

The price won't be stable.

Just like every other commodity in the market.

People will go for cheaper source of energy to power their automobiles.

If CNG LNG is cheaper than PMS they will go for CNG LNG.

If greater percentage of the people opt for CNG LNG, it will affect PMS because it will no longer be attractive because of high cost of pump price. And when it's no longer attractive, the price will most likely drop.

First of all there is no independent marketer importing fuel.. NNPC is the sole importer of all petroleum products.

Second..
The drop out of the so called demand and supply isn't going to be significant..inshort when subsidies are removed the only thing that can significantly drop PMS prices is crude oil prices.. how many people consume diesel.. inshort do you know when diesel prices increased x4 alot of businesses abandoned it..some didn't..still did it force the price down? No.. Diesel is also fully deregulated .

When kerosene was the normal house hold fuel for cooking..GEJ removed subsidies off kerosene and prices jumped .every one simply switched to gas.. today an average family doesn't use kerosene yet the prices are still very high.. because of the cost of production attributed to crude oil prices and exchange rates..

Every one switching to CNG will not significantly impact on PMS prices.. the crude oil price will . Those who process crude oil to PMS have an average leverage as profit they make.. The price can go higher if there is a scarcity though..

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Re: Innoson Motors (IVM) Commissions Her New LNG/CNG Vehicles by FarmTech(m): 10:15pm On Apr 20, 2023
Good. What have we been waiting for all these while?
Re: Innoson Motors (IVM) Commissions Her New LNG/CNG Vehicles by Princeton92(m): 10:40pm On Apr 20, 2023
Lionelbhass:
Innosson needs better funding, make one wealthy organization just buy part of their shares. Boom💨

Yes He should've made a deal with big firms like MTN, BUA Otedola OR Elumelu sha lipsrsealed lipsrsealed
Re: Innoson Motors (IVM) Commissions Her New LNG/CNG Vehicles by sunboy(m): 11:03pm On Apr 20, 2023
ibechris:




The largest ever found in the world,especially in Imo state.

False information. Russia, Iran and Qatar in that order has worlds largest proven gas reserve in the world. Taink you!
Re: Innoson Motors (IVM) Commissions Her New LNG/CNG Vehicles by sunboy(m): 11:14pm On Apr 20, 2023
Good development. Remain make government and private sector invest in building gas station for LNG to support this and make it more practical to use.
Re: Innoson Motors (IVM) Commissions Her New LNG/CNG Vehicles by ibechris(m): 11:29pm On Apr 20, 2023
sunboy:


False information. Russia, Iran and Qatar in that order has worlds largest proven gas reserve in the world. Taink you!


Russia has the 37.4trillion cubic feets but imo state has 200 trillion cubic feet,that is the largest in the world currently and yet untapped.

In fact,it was accidentally discovered.
Re: Innoson Motors (IVM) Commissions Her New LNG/CNG Vehicles by MasterTeeUSA: 11:35pm On Apr 20, 2023
Before you said Igbos are being sidelines...the Fed Govt heavily promoted and supported Innoson, and this is one of the plans to diversify before removing subsidy....but then again an average Nigeria does not read well or comprehend or put 2 plus 2 together...why? It is too much work. Ask how many LNG Gas stations we had 5 yrs ago...ZERO and how many do we have now? They don't know. We discovered Crude in multiple new states now..na Research but an average Nigerian will say nothing is working. They want 1 to 100...magician.



Supremos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3piRZJ3u3U

We are thrilled to announce that the grand commissioning of the Innoson CNG/LNG bus by the President of the Manufacturers Association of Nigeria is finally here!



https://www.facebook.com/100064624784510/posts/605903741573780/?mibextid=mna8qTP8xvtPE1tK
Re: Innoson Motors (IVM) Commissions Her New LNG/CNG Vehicles by sunboy(m): 11:39pm On Apr 20, 2023
ibechris:



Russia has the 37.4trillion cubic feets but imo state has 200 trillion cubic feet,that is the largest in the world currently and yet untapped.

In fact,it was accidentally discovered.

Proven by who? Provide evident for that.
Re: Innoson Motors (IVM) Commissions Her New LNG/CNG Vehicles by ibechris(m): 11:43pm On Apr 20, 2023
sunboy:


Proven by who? Provide evident for that.


That is it below.

Re: Innoson Motors (IVM) Commissions Her New LNG/CNG Vehicles by ibechris(m): 11:49pm On Apr 20, 2023
sunboy:


Proven by who? Provide evident for that.


Another below.

Re: Innoson Motors (IVM) Commissions Her New LNG/CNG Vehicles by Supremos: 12:00am On Apr 21, 2023
pocom16:


First of all there is no independent marketer importing fuel.. NNPC is the sole importer of all petroleum products.

Second..
The drop out of the so called demand and supply isn't going to be significant..inshort when subsidies are removed the only thing that can significantly drop PMS prices is crude oil prices.. how many people consume diesel.. inshort do you know when diesel prices increased x4 alot of businesses abandoned it..some didn't..still did it force the price down? No.. Diesel is also fully deregulated .

When kerosene was the normal house hold fuel for cooking..GEJ removed subsidies off kerosene and prices jumped .every one simply switched to gas.. today an average family doesn't use kerosene yet the prices are still very high.. because of the cost of production attributed to crude oil prices and exchange rates..

Every one switching to CNG will not significantly impact on PMS prices.. the crude oil price will . Those who process crude oil to PMS have an average leverage as profit they make.. The price can go higher if there is a scarcity though..


. “NNPC had arrangements with some of the oil marketers as a stop-gap for importation of PMS in 2020 but what we would do is we will provide you information on those things imported and the vessels and everything, so that you will be cognizant of those that did the importation. Like I said, this is the data that we got from PPPRA then and NNPC also, so we collated those data and from the importers themselves.
This is an extract from this article on Vanguard.

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2022/07/how-n4-194trn-was-paid-as-fuel-subsidy-from-2017-to-2022-oagf/.

See, NNPC is the sole importer, but the importation is done by marketers under arrangement with NNPC.
They're the ones receiving the bulk of the subsidy payment.

Take away subsidy, price will double.


Price of crude oil does not really have much direct effect on petrol pump price.
The major factor affecting petrol pump price, is refining, haulage and dollar exchange rate.

If crude oil price is the only major factor affecting petrol pump price, then prices of petrol across the globe would be the same.

We're not refining petrol here. Our refineries are in comatose. Most of the PMS we use here are imported from other countries, and ferried down to Nigeria. Dollar exchange rate affects the price, cost of haulage affects the price, etc.

Now coming to Why kerosene hasn't gone down. Kerosene isn't only used as cooking gas. It is the primary component of aviation fuel.
Airlines uses it. It's on high demand.

Diesel too is use for engine oil blending. So apart from automobiles, factories needs it. The price won't drop.

I have given you a run down on how it will affect the price of pms

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Re: Innoson Motors (IVM) Commissions Her New LNG/CNG Vehicles by Hallabee1(m): 12:00am On Apr 21, 2023
manutdrichie:
What is the keke doing there?

Is it CNG/LNG keke?


Aje...


Both
Re: Innoson Motors (IVM) Commissions Her New LNG/CNG Vehicles by Burgerlomo: 2:13am On Apr 21, 2023
Congratulations 👍

Re: Innoson Motors (IVM) Commissions Her New LNG/CNG Vehicles by engrchykae(m): 3:02am On Apr 21, 2023
CondenseMilk:
well-done innosson.

Nigerians and Africans should buy cars and buses from this man.

His cars has same quality you can find in cars abroad.



Innoson stop being wicked and start paying your workers in Enugu as human beings.
Before you end up as ibeto.
Wickedness does not pay an Igbo.
Wickedness may pay other Nigerians but it can never do an Igbo any good
Re: Innoson Motors (IVM) Commissions Her New LNG/CNG Vehicles by Asswipemod: 3:16am On Apr 21, 2023
Supremos:
This is a very welcomed development.

It will force down the prices of pms and Gasoline


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3piRZJ3u3U

But oga, PMS and Gasoline na the same tin naa
Re: Innoson Motors (IVM) Commissions Her New LNG/CNG Vehicles by princeogbeide1(m): 3:27am On Apr 21, 2023
onukwube1:

Ignorance is really a costly disease. There is no car company in the world that produces all the components of a vehicle. Not even Toyota. Google will educate you but you choose hate over knowledge.

You are dull when you say ignorance is a costly disease. Learn how to communicate without insulting your parents.
Re: Innoson Motors (IVM) Commissions Her New LNG/CNG Vehicles by treatise: 3:33am On Apr 21, 2023
[quote author=Supremos post=122646073] my brother, I have seen brand new Toyota Hilux given to police turn to Scrab. It's not the fault of the vehicle, it's lack of maintenance culture and I don't care altitude of public office holders because it's not their properties. I have seen private Innoson vehicles still sound and classy [/quote
Truth dey there sha
Re: Innoson Motors (IVM) Commissions Her New LNG/CNG Vehicles by sunboy(m): 3:53am On Apr 21, 2023
ibechris:



Another below.

I’m asking you for prove about IMO state having worlds largest gas reserve, you’re sending me google search about Russia lol
Re: Innoson Motors (IVM) Commissions Her New LNG/CNG Vehicles by sunboy(m): 3:53am On Apr 21, 2023
ibechris:



That is it below.

Okay
Re: Innoson Motors (IVM) Commissions Her New LNG/CNG Vehicles by Supremos: 5:08am On Apr 21, 2023
Asswipemod:


But oga, PMS and Gasoline na the same tin naa
what I meant was diesel
Re: Innoson Motors (IVM) Commissions Her New LNG/CNG Vehicles by Nolevel666: 7:30am On Apr 21, 2023
Supremos:
CNG means Compressed Natural Gas

LNG means Liquidified Natural Gas



The importance is that they're clean energy, odourless, has zero carbon emission, cheaper than petroleum motor spirit (PMS) aka Fuel, and diesel

At 850 per kg?

Unless the rate of combustion is less than PMS
I.e the energy density is higher than petrol per kg
Re: Innoson Motors (IVM) Commissions Her New LNG/CNG Vehicles by nwadiuko1(m): 7:34am On Apr 21, 2023
Is it like the same gas used for cooking?
Re: Innoson Motors (IVM) Commissions Her New LNG/CNG Vehicles by Nolevel666: 7:47am On Apr 21, 2023
Flier:
Every part of Innoson is imported,its just being assembled in Nigeria
No car maker can make all its parts alone,Nobody use chinese cars its plastic

Do you know solid iron cars are deadly during an accident?

Cars are now made to sacrifice their shape for the sake of saving its driver and passengers in the advent of an accident.

That is why you see most modern Japanese cars get squeezed easily during an accident because, the body parts are made to absorb the shock of the impact of the accident by CRUMPLING thus, dissipating the energy that would have been passed on to the driver and passengers.

A solid car on the other hand, transfers all the energy of impact during an accident to its driver and passengers, leading to severe injuries.
Re: Innoson Motors (IVM) Commissions Her New LNG/CNG Vehicles by Reflect7: 8:02am On Apr 21, 2023
Supremos:
Exactly. Buy Nigeria vehicles to grow Nigerian economy.

Buy African vehicles to grow African economy.

Enough of capital flight

Very well said brother.

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