Afamed:
Both Atiku and Obi know they are just there to waste their time in the court

The Tribunal sitting is 100% of academic exercise.

Nothing more

says by judge Afamed

garfield1:


There is no conflict actually,the electoral act was clear.inec must accredit electronically but can transmit or collate however it wishes to whether manual or electronic.the guidelines is trying to force or mandate inec adhoc staffs to transmit electronically.and violation of the electoral guidelines is never a ground for nullifying elections

I have told you on many occasions, that fergie is known PDP/ LP agent. He will not hesitate to twist the law to favour his pay masters.

He knows the transmission of election result is at the prerogative of INEC but the pay agent will at all cost wants to twist the law

socialmediaman:


If 100 votes were shared between 3 strong candidates, candidate PO got 50 votes, candidate AA got 30 votes while candidate BT got 20 votes, but the umpire announces falsely that candidate PO got 20 votes, candidate AA got 30 votes while candidate BT got 50 votes, is it not obvious that candidate PO's votes were given to candidate BT?

It's simple math.

ALOL !! very very funny ...

The analog you gave reeks of naivety, You think INEC is that stupid to just be interchanging Peter Obi vote directly with Tinubu votes
it like burying a corpse and leaving the legs out naw !

Peter OBi accused apc of deducting/surpressing his votes, and here you are giving a scenerio of "vote swap"

So Atiku vote carry immunity in short 🤣🤣🤣

garfield1:


You are not getting it.bvas only contains accreditation figures and pictures of result sheets taken by inec.it does not show details of who a voter voted as voters voted manually not through bvas.again,obi never inspected the bvas machines directly because inec needed to reconfigure them for guber polls.he only relied on server reports which is incomplete.therefore,forensics and recount are the only ways to prove who voted who

No you're not getting it. Pictures of result sheets taken by INEC show the total votes each candidate got. PO has his own records from all the agents at PUs, he knows how many votes each of his opponents got.

What he needs to do is tell the court that his numbers from his agents correspond to what was on the BVAS which were backed up to INEC server before being configured for the gubernatorial elections

chidiokay:



ALOL !! very very funny ...

The analog you gave reeks of naivety, You think INEC is that stupid to just be interchanging Peter Obi vote directly with Tinubu votes
it like burying a corpse and leaving the legs out naw !

Peter OBi accused apc of deducting/surpressing his votes, and here you are giving a scenerio of "vote swap"

So Atiku vote carry immunity in short 🤣🤣🤣

INEC already uploaded data on iREV that was different from what was announced by their officers in Rivers, so when you think about naivety and figure it out, look in the mirror

Peter Obi accused INEC of deducting LP votes and adding it to APC's votes, not what you wrote up there

seanfer:


Will the BVAS show who each ballot belongs to among the candidates?
So far there is no over voting BVAS can decide the ballot.

BVAS shows a picture of the data on the result sheet at the PU after the election, the same document signed by each party agent

garfield1:


Yes but truthful.obi will fail woefully

Since you are sure of this, why are you worried?
You are putting yourself in mental stress over issues you are this sure of victory?

Take a chill pill, relax your mind and allow things unfold at it's own pace....you are still very important to your family and friends

socialmediaman:


No you're not getting it. Pictures of result sheets taken by INEC show the total votes each candidate got. PO has his own records from all the agents at PUs, he knows how many votes each of his opponents got.

What he needs to do is tell the court that his numbers from his agents correspond to what was on the BVAS which were backed up to INEC server before being configured for the gubernatorial elections

He cannot tell the court anything only,he must prove to the court that he polled the highest votes in open court unit by unit.his result sheets must correspond with the one that was given to the police or irev or it will be thrashed.in the eyes of the law,what is in the bvas is what is in irev.obi must prove totally that this is false

socialmediaman:


BVAS shows a picture of the data on the result sheet at the PU after the election, the same document signed by each party agent

I know that, but how will Obi and Atiku proof that their votes were allocated to Tinubu if they’re not going to recount the ballots?

socialmediaman:


No you're not getting it. Pictures of result sheets taken by INEC show the total votes each candidate got. PO has his own records from all the agents at PUs, he knows how many votes each of his opponents got.

What he needs to do is tell the court that his numbers from his agents correspond to what was on the BVAS which were backed up to INEC server before being configured for the gubernatorial elections

Also are you aware that LP/Obi didn’t have agents in over 41,000 PUs, and INEC already attached a letter to its response to the petition informing the LP about that and the party didn’t get back to them. Please will LP and Obi convince the panel that they win in those PUs?

garfield1:


He cannot tell the court anything only,he must prove to the court that he polled the highest votes in open court unit by unit.his result sheets must correspond with the one that was given to the police or irev or it will be thrashed.in the eyes of the law,what is in the bvas is what is in irev.obi must prove totally that this is false

What was on the BVAS was not exactly what INEC uploaded on iREV, some results were altered and uploaded on iREV, not what the BVAS captured after the election, and that’s what PO is going to prove to the court.

seanfer:


Also are you aware that LP/Obi didn’t have agents in over 41,000 PUs, and INEC already attached a letter to its response to the petition informing the LP about that and the party didn’t get back to them. Please will LP and Obi convince the panel that they win in those PUs?

LP doesn’t need an agent at every PU to see the data captured by the BVAS when election was concluded at the PU

seanfer:


I know that, but how will Obi and Atiku proof that their votes were allocated to Tinubu if they’re not going to recount the ballots?

Were you not the one I gave an example of how this is done in an earlier reply? Stop playing

garfield1:


He cannot tell the court anything only,he must prove to the court that he polled the highest votes in open court unit by unit.his result sheets must correspond with the one that was given to the police or irev or it will be thrashed.in the eyes of the law,what is in the bvas is what is in irev.obi must prove totally that this is false

Do you realize you're arguing with yourself?.

socialmediaman:


LP doesn’t need an agent at every PU to see the data captured by the BVAS when election was concluded at the PU

Really LP doesn’t need to have Agents at the PUs? So how will LP know if the results upload is the true reflection of what happened at the PU. This is funny.

A country that has almost 100,000 PhD holders is arguing about "AND" in the constitution.

1. In seeking admission into a university, after scoring above 200, universities tell applicants that YOU MUST GET AT LEAST 5 CREDIT SCORES TO GET ADMITTED. THESE CREDIT SCORES MUST BE IN AT LEAST 4 SUBJECTS RELATED TO YOUR INTENDED COURSE OF STUDY "AND" ENGLISH LANGUAGE.

This simply implies that even if you get 8 A's in your subjects but get a "D" or "E" or "F" in your O' Level result, NO UNIVERSITY WILL ADMIT YOU. But Nigerians are arguing.

Cc fergie001, garfield1

seanfer:

Really LP doesn’t need to have Agents at the PUs? So how will LP know if the results upload is the true reflection of what happened at the PU. This is funny.

Through something called statistical sampling. For example, If you compare data collected by your PU agents against data on the BVAS machines in thousands of randomly sampled PUs, you can make conclusions with up to 95% confidence level.

Rest please.

In your place of work, the MD gives a simple instruction: FOR YOUR PROMOTIONS TO BE CONSIDERED, AT LEAST TWO-THIRDS OF THE NEW RECRUITS "AND" THE SECRETARY MUST BE PRESENT IN THE MEETING.

If ALL the recruits attend the meeting, but the secretary fails to attend, WILL ANYBODY'S PROMOTION BE CONSIDERED DURING THE MEETING? But Nigerians are arguing.

Cc fergie001, garfield1

FavoredbyGOD:
A country that has almost 100,000 PhD holders is arguing about "AND" in the constitution.

1. In seeking admission into a university, after scoring above 200, universities tell applicants that YOU MUST GET AT LEAST 5 CREDIT SCORES TO GET ADMITTED. THESE CREDIT SCORES MUST BE IN AT LEAST 4 SUBJECTS RELATED TO YOUR INTENDED COURSE OF STUDY "AND" ENGLISH LANGUAGE.

This simply implies that even if you get 8 A's in your subjects but get a "" or "E" or "F" in your O' Level result, NO UNIVERSITY WILL ADMIT YOU. But Nigerians are arguing.

Cc fergie001, garfield1

The law is different from university admission criteria.how will a rerun help obi

00FFT00:


Do you realize you're arguing with yourself?.

As in

socialmediaman:


What was on the BVAS was not exactly what INEC uploaded on iREV, some results were altered and uploaded on iREV, not what the BVAS captured after the election, and that’s what PO is going to prove to the court.

You still miss the point.even if a result is altered,it will still pass through bvas before irev.for instance,obi wins in okolo unit 003.but a new result sheet is produced where obi loses and tinubu wins and then captured on the bvas and uploaded.if they want to alter any result,they will do it before snapping it with bvas not after.alteration is done before they snap it with bvas not after
The only thing obi can do is to produce his duplicate copy but this must match with the police copy.if it doesnt,he fails.why uzodinma won was because his copies matched that of the police.
Infact,in some cases the alterations are done and lp agents are not given any copies as apc overwhelmed them.in other cases,lp agents are compromise or work with apc to rig.as you know,lp does not have agents in over 40,000 units.obi cannot just produce sufficient evidences

socialmediaman:


LP doesn’t need an agent at every PU to see the data captured by the BVAS when election was concluded at the PU

Lp need to have agents in a unit in other to sufficiently prove a case.the best type of evidence is eyewitness or physical evidence.the judges will not give much regards to evidence emanating from units where lp lacks presence.oral evidence is very important

socialmediaman:


Through something called statistical sampling. For example, If you compare data collected by your PU agents against data on the BVAS machines in thousands of randomly sampled PUs, you can make conclusions with up to 95% confidence level.

Rest please.

Good.lp must prove to the court that the results presented by its agents is true by producing police copy,bringing witnesses from each units to testify

garfield1:


You still miss the point.even if a result is altered,it will still pass through bvas before irev.for instance,obi wins in okolo unit 003.but a new result sheet is produced where obi loses and tinubu wins and then captured on the bvas and uploaded.if they want to alter any result,they will do it before snapping it with bvas not after.alteration is done before they snap it with bvas not after
The only thing obi can do is to produce his duplicate copy but this must match with the police copy.if it doesnt,he fails.why uzodinma won was because his copies matched that of the police.
Infact,in some cases the alterations are done and lp agents are not given any copies as apc overwhelmed them.in other cases,lp agents are compromise or work with apc to rig.as you know,lp does not have agents in over 40,000 units.obi cannot just produce sufficient evidences

Do you work with INEC or live inside the BVAS machines to know that they snapped the "altered" copies of the results with the BVAS machines before uploading them to iREV?

Also, do you know that data experts can recover data that was deleted or from digital devices? If you take a photo for instance, delete it, and take another, the previous photo can be recovered, and that becomes evidence of tampering?

garfield1:


Lp need to have agents in a unit in other to sufficiently prove a case.the best type of evidence is eyewitness or physical evidence.the judges will not give much regards to evidence emanating from units where lp lacks presence.oral evidence is very important

"LP doesn't need an agent at every PU" that's what I wrote earlier. I didn't write that they don't need agents at all

socialmediaman:


Do you work with INEC or live inside the BVAS machines to know that they snapped the "altered" copies of the results with the BVAS machines before uploading them to iREV?

Also, do you know that data experts can recover data that was deleted or from digital devices? If you take a photo for instance, delete it, and take another, the previous photo can be recovered, and that becomes evidence of tampering?

I have participated in elections since 2003,I am an electoral guru so I know what I am saying.I have told you that all alterations are done outside the bvas not within.inec has a result sheet booklet.they can always tear out any result and rewrite afresh.obi people were never allowed to inspect the bvas.infact during inspection,there are restrictions.you wont be allowed to inspect the software and internal components just only accreditation data and results

socialmediaman:


"LP doesn't need an agent at every PU" that's what I wrote earlier. I didn't write that they don't need agents at all

You need agents in all units.the most crucial witnesses are your agents and voters who witnessed everything.if you have been reading previous court judgments,you won't argue this

socialmediaman:


"LP doesn't need an agent at every PU" that's what I wrote earlier. I didn't write that they don't need agents at all

If you dont need a supervisor or invigilator in each exam halls , how do you now accuse students of examination mal practice?

Truly most Obidents are zom-eies

Afamed:
I will not be surprised if the court slams both Atiku and Obi heavy fine for wasting their time

They just want to use the case as a practical and exercise for 200L law students

FavoredbyGOD:


In your place of work, the MD gives a simple instruction: FOR YOUR PROMOTIONS TO BE CONSIDERED, AT LEAST TWO-THIRDS OF THE NEW RECRUITS "AND" THE SECRETARY MUST BE PRESENT IN THE MEETING.

If ALL the recruits attend the meeting, but the secretary fails to attend, WILL ANYBODY'S PROMOTION BE CONSIDERED DURING THE MEETING? But Nigerians are arguing.

Cc fergie001, garfield1

This your useless analogy clearly shows you're a born nwa boy.
Leave this thing for the learned and enter the market and sell tokunbo plug.

According to ipob method, a politician can get 80% votes in FCT and score 0% in the 36 states and still go to court.

Afamed:


If you dont need a supervisor or invigilator in each exam halls , how do you now accuse students of examination mal practice?

Truly most Obidents are zom-eies

“LP doesn’t need an agent at every PU to see the data captured by the BVAS when election was concluded at the PU”.

That was the complete text from the excerpt you quoted

If you don’t have an invigilator but there were surveillance cameras present, you can rely on data from the surveillance cameras. BVAS could act as surveillance cameras for LP.

If there were no LP agents, there could be witnesses like accredited voters. There were agents of other political parties.

I think I’m explaining to a kindergartener.

Please Rest.

Obi and atiku both have no case. Obis case is even more loose and would be dismissed at the tribunal considering that he will fail to substantially prove any infraction. The electoral act doesnt recognize anything electronic besides accreditation. Atiku is even a bit more clever in his submissions. That said, i have substantially followed presidential election petitions outcomes in africa for some time now. In the past 10 years, aparr from Malawi (Peter Mutarika) and Kenya (Uhuru Kenyatta), no other presidential elections have been annulled by the courts, and in each of these occasions, the respondents eventually won the repeat elections.