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Re: Will PDP Ever Bounce Back To Reckoning? - TonyeBarcanista by BeardedmeatR(m): 10:47am On May 13, 2023
PDP should go into alliance with Labor party and drop the name PDP.

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Re: Will PDP Ever Bounce Back To Reckoning? - TonyeBarcanista by TonyeBarcanista(m): 10:54am On May 13, 2023
iokpebholo:
Atiku was never d problem bros,Atiku won north west and north east but obi destroyed his votes in d south south and southeast knowing fully well dt labour party cannot win
My brother, Atiku only won the Northeast from official results. Obi won SS and SE, Tinubu won SW, NC and NW!

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Re: Will PDP Ever Bounce Back To Reckoning? - TonyeBarcanista by TonyeBarcanista(m): 11:01am On May 13, 2023
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savcy:
The PDP may never rise again, because:


1) The biggest problem with the PDP at the moment is the sheer lack of leaders who are good negotiators. When you're leading powerful individuals having the right negotiation and conflict resolution skills cannot be overemphasised. That's how the APC started out, and are still together today, because, somehow, they just know how to pacify the people who matter. Atiku should have negotiated better and sought for ways to pacify Obi and the G5 immediately after the primaries. Ayu was a liability that overstayed his welcome due to Atiku's pride. Ayu was completely redundant to anything of electoral worth that happened in the last election.

2) The PDP is still living on the grand delusion that it is still the party to beat. This mentality is one of the reasons they are yet to play actual opposition politics at the scale the APC did it. I can't believe that the PDP allowed Buhari a peaceful 8years in power in spite of the monumental failings of the administration. Pre-2015, the APC leveraged the media to demonise every single GEJ policies, while pushing their narrative of how they would have done it better. The PDP is yet to paint the picture of the APC in a way that sways public opinion of the party. If GEJ's tenure witnessed a rise in inflation from 12% to 22% in a matter of 4 years, GEJ would probably have been impeached due to the massive public outcry the APC would have whipped. The political strategy employed by the PDP does not in any way reflect opposition.

3) Most PDP leaders do not care for the party any more. The last election more than showed that most politicians in the PDP just weren't interested in pouring money into the party in a way that matches pre-2015. Most just want to secure their tickets and their zones, and that's it.

4) The level of demarketing the APC did to the PDP pre-2015, is almost indelible. In fact, it would take a very, very sustained period of combined good governance and leadership by PDP elected officials to overturn the impression people have for the party. In 2014, while the PDP were using the media to perpetuate the idea the the APC was a party for extremists, the APC completely won the war of labelling by demonising them. The name PDP was so so unattractive at some point that a name change was even considered by party leaders. .

5) The PDP must do away with Atiku once and for all. He's not very popular in the North for starters. People only rally around him in votes worth due to the ineptitude experienced in the last 8 years. If Tinubu leads better (which some expect) Atiku would fizzle out of relevance. Also, he's a bad strategist. After multiple failed Presidential contests, he has quite possibly depleted his dispensable cash. At the moment, he is of no political value to the party. He has lost his chance for people to trust him.
Re: Will PDP Ever Bounce Back To Reckoning? - TonyeBarcanista by TonyeBarcanista(m): 11:05am On May 13, 2023
BeardedmeatR:
PDP should go into alliance with Labor party and drop the name PDP.
A merger may be inevitable but I don't think PDP as a Party would. Perhaps, a strong faction might like like what Tinubu AD faction did in 2006 to form AC just to avoid being consumed by the impending extinction of AD
Re: Will PDP Ever Bounce Back To Reckoning? - TonyeBarcanista by Amumaigwe: 11:36am On May 13, 2023
TonyeBarcanista:
By Tonye Barcanista

At the conclusion of the Presidential, governorship and National Assembly elections in 1998 and 1999, the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) triumphed over the All Peoples Party (APP) and Alliance for Democracy (AD) to emerge Nigeria's most dominant political party in the beginning of the fourth republic, as the party won the Presidential election, 66 out of 109 seats in the Senate and about 200 out of 360 seats in the Federal House of Representatives. In addition to these, the Party had comfortable control in 21 out of 36 States across the Federation, leaving the APP and AD with 6 and 9 states respectively.

In 2003, the PDP performed even better than it did in 1999. The Party retained the Presidency and increased its seats in the Senate and House of Representatives to 76 and 223 seats respectively. In addition to that feat, PDP increased the number of states under control to 27 (initially 28 until Anambra was upturned in favor of APGA). The growth of stature of PDP simply meant shrinking of APP and AD control of States to 7 and 1 respectively - meaning both parties lost 2 and 5 states respectively.

At the 2007 elections, it was clear that AD has gone to extinction with newly formed Action Congress (AC) that was led by a faction of AD taking its place as the main opposition in the Southwest. However, at the conclusion of the general election, the PDP further consolidated its dominance of Nigeria's politics. The party retained the Presidency, increased its seats in the Senate to 86 (from 79) and 260 from 223 in the House of Representatives. The PDP also increased its control of States to 31. The number later reduced to 26 when Anambra was returned to APGA (2007), Ondo was upturned to LP (2009), and Edo (2010), Ekiti (2010) and Osun (2010) went in favor of opposition AC through judicial pronouncements.

After the 2007 election, Chief Vincent Ogbulafor, the National Chairman of PDP in 2008, boasted that “The PDP is a party for all and it is set to rule Nigeria for the next 60 years. I don’t care if Nigeria becomes a one-party state. We can do it and the PDP can contain all”. That statement drew condemnation from the opposition but what could they have done?

Meanwhile, the ANPP (previously known as APP) only managed to retain 4 States, while the new block in town; Progressive Peoples Alliance (PPA) and AC got 2 States and 1 state respectively. AD was completely annihilated, ANPP's annihilation was but a matter of time.

At the 2011 general election, though PDP reinforced its dominance by retaining the presidential seat and dominating the National Assembly, the party showed signs that it was not invisible after all. The PDP control in the Senate fell to 71, while its House membership was reduced to 202. The Party also saw a decline in the number of States under its control to 23. On the other hand, the AC and APGA increased their control of States to 8 and 2 respectively, ANPP further fell to 3, while an ambitious Congress for Progressive Change (CPC) got 1 State under its belt.

In 2015, the PDP was eventually demystified. The Party lost the Presidential election, and lost control in both Chambers of the National Assembly, winning 48 and 140 seats in the Senate and House of Representatives respectively. The States under the control of PDP was equally reduced to 11. This was further reduced to 9 following the Party loss of Ekiti and Ondo States in 2016. The PDP was demystified by the All Progressives Congress - a merger of ACN (formerly AC), ANPP, CPC, and a faction of APGA. The capacity of the APC was swelled with the entrance of a group of aggrieved senior PDP leaders known as New PDP.

In 2019, despite dwindling popularity of APC, PDP could not defeat the Party at the Presidential election. The partu also saw a further decline in its seats in the Senate and House of Representatives to 45 and 128 respectively. The Party however got an increase in States to 14 (initially 15 until judicial pronouncement that returned Imo State to APC).

Penultimate to 2023 election, PDP was bedeviled with internal crisis similar to the crisis it experienced in 2015. The result of the election saw the Party losing the Presidential election to the APC accordin to official result. The PDP further saw a decline in Seats in the Senate and House of Representatives to 36 and 107 respectively according to official results. The party further saw a decline in the number of states in its control to 12.

The interesting thing about the 2023 election is the loss of Southeast and Southsouth geopolitical zones to the Labour Party (led by breakaway PDP members) at the Presidential election. The two zones are historically a comfortable turf to the party in every presidential election since 1999. Furthermore, PDP could only managed to win in one (northeast) out of the six zones in the country - a sharp decline from its previous fortunes.

At present, the political war of attrition between a faction led by five influential governors (known as G5) and the group loyal to the Presidential candidate Atiku Abubakar seem not to be over - both groups are employing all the political card to outdo the other. Even an event organised by the Party’s Governors Forum for the its outgoing governors and governors-elect was boycotted by the G5 Governors and their supporters. The crack in the Party is very visible, and will further sink the party if left unattended.

Conclusively, it remains to be seen whether or not the party, that once pride itself the largest in Africa, will bounce back to reckoning. But the PDP cannot bounce back except it addresses its myriads of internal issues, and make the party attractive to the GenZ and other young Nigerians through holistic reforms.

Tonye Barcanista writes from FCT, Abuja.

PDP will never bounce back to any reckoning. As it stands now, LP even has more prospects than PDP. Sorry that all your investments are down the drain.
Re: Will PDP Ever Bounce Back To Reckoning? - TonyeBarcanista by iokpebholo: 11:57am On May 13, 2023
Amumaigwe:


PDP will never bounce back to any reckoning. As it stands now, LP even has more prospects than PDP. Sorry that all your investments are down the drain.
LP with only a state governor dt will soon decamp is what you are hoping on abi

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Re: Will PDP Ever Bounce Back To Reckoning? - TonyeBarcanista by iokpebholo: 12:01pm On May 13, 2023
BeardedmeatR:
PDP should go into alliance with Labor party and drop the name PDP.
PDP is seen as an old party while LP is seen as an Igbo party.The two names should be dropped

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Re: Will PDP Ever Bounce Back To Reckoning? - TonyeBarcanista by iokpebholo: 12:06pm On May 13, 2023
mrvitalis:

Yes Igbos should have voted PDP na as what ? Taking Igbos support for granted is what killed PDP

Had PDP presented obi there won't have been G5
But they were giving vice president slot and they refused but they are d ones begging APC of senate president position now..

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Re: Will PDP Ever Bounce Back To Reckoning? - TonyeBarcanista by juman(m): 12:08pm On May 13, 2023
PDP has to change their national chairman first.
That is the good new beginning.
A neutral person as national chairman.
There are many good hands around.
Re: Will PDP Ever Bounce Back To Reckoning? - TonyeBarcanista by juman(m): 12:11pm On May 13, 2023
PDP is so strong that they have committed members in all cities, towns and villages.
They dont need alliance with LP.
LP people that wish can join pdp.
Re: Will PDP Ever Bounce Back To Reckoning? - TonyeBarcanista by BeardedmeatR(m): 12:24pm On May 13, 2023
iokpebholo:
PDP is seen as an old party while LP is seen as an Igbo party.The two names should be dropped
LoP is seen as an Igbo party only in that rotten mass you call a head.

They won election in 12 states and you are talking gazelle garagarau balublu Bulaba.
Re: Will PDP Ever Bounce Back To Reckoning? - TonyeBarcanista by iokpebholo: 12:35pm On May 13, 2023
BeardedmeatR:
LoP is seen as an Igbo party only in that rotten mass you call a head.

They won election in 12 states and you are talking gazelle garagarau balublu Bulaba.
An won governorship election only in Abia Mr man grin grin grin grin grin

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Re: Will PDP Ever Bounce Back To Reckoning? - TonyeBarcanista by iokpebholo: 12:36pm On May 13, 2023
juman:
PDP is so strong that they have committed members in all cities, towns and villages.
They dont need alliance with LP.
LP people that wish can join pdp.
God bless you.
Re: Will PDP Ever Bounce Back To Reckoning? - TonyeBarcanista by BeardedmeatR(m): 1:02pm On May 13, 2023
iokpebholo:
An won governorship election only in Abia Mr man grin grin grin grin grin
You are the only one that doesn't see the uncommon strength of the "structureless" party that won in 12 states, won seats in the NASS and topped it with a sitting governor.

You still no wan rest even prophesying that labor would not win even one state.

Let me tell you, the time is coming when anyone that mentions pdp in the south would be stoned. PDP would soon become an abomination in the people's eyes. 😀
Re: Will PDP Ever Bounce Back To Reckoning? - TonyeBarcanista by mrvitalis(m): 1:03pm On May 13, 2023
iokpebholo:
But they were giving vice president slot and they refused but they are d ones begging APC of senate president position now..
A minister under APC is better than taking vice under PDP

What have south east given APC

PDP can give an Atiku ticket but can't give an Igbo man ticket ?

If PDP can deny south east ticket when it was our turn why should south east ever trust PDP?

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Re: Will PDP Ever Bounce Back To Reckoning? - TonyeBarcanista by iokpebholo: 1:19pm On May 13, 2023
mrvitalis:

A minister under APC is better than taking vice under PDP

What have south east given APC

PDP can give an Atiku ticket but can't give an Igbo man ticket ?

If PDP can deny south east ticket when it was our turn why should south east ever trust PDP?
The naked truth is PDP is still d shortest route for an Ibo man to be the president of this country.Time shall tell

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Re: Will PDP Ever Bounce Back To Reckoning? - TonyeBarcanista by savcy(m): 1:31pm On May 13, 2023
Reading the comments thus far would just open your eyes as to why the PDP is doomed to fizzle out. In the party currently personal interests seems to still take precedence over party objectives. As much as this phenomenon is typical of anything Nigeria, the PDP probably needs more losses to realise that it doesn't have the luxury to toe this path.

Defeating the APC was very, very easy in 2023, which with a more sensible leadership the PDP would have easily won. However, this won't be the case in 2027. Because, Tinubu as party leader would be far better than anything PDP would come up with in the race to 2027. Atiku sticking around and trying to mend relationships in the party yet is a joke. He is nothing more than a relic of the disaster that 2023 was for the PDP. No serious PDP politician would take him seriously.

Forget about the brouhaha that's occasioned the choice of Senate President in the APC. If choice of national chairman didn't split that party last year, it would take a very cynical leadership style by Tinubu to shake the party. And the man is a sound negotiator. So what are the odds? They're bound to keep building. And Buhari's tenure has taught them a bitter lesson about policies and how it affects public support. They'd do a lot to change that. The PDP is the party that's not showing any signs of growth, and that should worry any one affiliated to them.

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Re: Will PDP Ever Bounce Back To Reckoning? - TonyeBarcanista by mrvitalis(m): 1:44pm On May 13, 2023
iokpebholo:
The naked truth is PDP is still d shortest route for an Ibo man to be the president of this country.Time shall tell
Lmfao Igbos don't need PDP to be President any alliance that won't make an Igbo man presidential candidate then PDP should strategies to win without Igbos
Re: Will PDP Ever Bounce Back To Reckoning? - TonyeBarcanista by DMerciful(m): 3:58pm On May 13, 2023
LP won and the court will do the needful. InEC rigged APCnin by swapping LP results for APC
iokpebholo:
Atiku was never d problem bros,Atiku won north west and north east but obi destroyed his votes in d south south and southeast knowing fully well dt labour party cannot win
Re: Will PDP Ever Bounce Back To Reckoning? - TonyeBarcanista by TonyeBarcanista(m): 4:05pm On May 13, 2023
savcy:
Reading the comments thus far would just open your eyes as to why the PDP is doomed to fizzle out. In the party currently personal interests seems to still take precedence over party objectives. As much as this phenomenon is typical of anything Nigeria, the PDP probably needs more losses to realise that it doesn't have the luxury to toe this path.

Defeating the APC was very, very easy in 2023, which with a more sensible leadership the PDP would have easily won. However, this won't be the case in 2027. Because, Tinubu as party leader would be far better than anything PDP would come up with in the race to 2027. Atiku sticking around and trying to mend relationships in the party yet is a joke. He is nothing more than a relic of the disaster that 2023 was for the PDP. No serious PDP politician would take him seriously.

Forget about the brouhaha that's occasioned the choice of Senate President in the APC. If choice of national chairman didn't split that party last year, it would take a very cynical leadership style by Tinubu to shake the party. And the man is a sound negotiator. So what are the odds? They're bound to keep building. And Buhari's tenure has taught them a bitter lesson about policies and how it affects public support. They'd do a lot to change that. The PDP is the party that's not showing any signs of growth, and that should worry any one affiliated to them.
Honestly, this is a very honest and sincere analysis of the situation. But one thing I have realised is that APC is not unbeatable - and they too realised this after seeing the results of Osun State Governorship election (2022) and even the Presidential election where they could only win in 1/3 of the 36 states - losing 2/3 to the opposition. I expect them to use incumbency, advantage to strengthen their party, but I see opportunities for the opposition ahead of 2027. All the opposition needs is proper leadership, equity, fairness and justice to challenge the ruling APC.
Re: Will PDP Ever Bounce Back To Reckoning? - TonyeBarcanista by Okoroawusa: 4:11pm On May 13, 2023
N'ebe kwanu? When I said that PDP is dead you thought I was joking abi?
Re: Will PDP Ever Bounce Back To Reckoning? - TonyeBarcanista by Nobody: 4:38pm On May 13, 2023
BeardedmeatR:
It was turn of the south. Nothing you say can change that.

I didn't know Atiku needed Obi to win.

They don't know. Atiku emergence killed PDP.

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Re: Will PDP Ever Bounce Back To Reckoning? - TonyeBarcanista by luvmijeje(f): 6:01pm On May 13, 2023
PDP did excellently well at the the last election despite the quality of His Presidential Candidate. Atiku failed to successfully negotiate with the G5. Failed to successfully negotiate with Obi and was just too arrogant.

It shows he got this far in politics because of his money and his ability to subterfuge. He is not a Politician o. It is is not everyone in politics that understands the intricacies of Politics.

In view of this, PDP will get the number 1 seat when it elect a Politician as his Presidential Candidate.

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Re: Will PDP Ever Bounce Back To Reckoning? - TonyeBarcanista by savcy(m): 6:37pm On May 13, 2023
TonyeBarcanista:

Honestly, this is a very honest and sincere analysis of the situation. But one thing I have realised is that APC is not unbeatable - and they too realised this after seeing the results of Osun State Governorship election (2022) and even the Presidential election where they could only win in 1/3 of the 36 states - losing 2/3 to the opposition. I expect them to use incumbency, advantage to strengthen their party, but I see opportunities for the opposition ahead of 2027. All the opposition needs is proper leadership, equity, fairness and justice to challenge the ruling APC.


I align with your thoughts, sir. Actually the only reason the APC is still holding sway is because the opposition(s) are naive. The APC is a fundamentally fractured party. They were literally formed by four different tectonic formations. The fault lines exist and can be exploited any day, any time. If the APC were to be in the position of the PDP in the last election, they would have won easily. How? Concession and compromise. In 2015 they had one goal, and all interested parties made compromises and the party won.

In the build up to the primaries in 2022, if Buhari were an Atiku, he would have used power of incumbency to endorse a candidate other than Tinubu. The saviour of the APC is Buhari actually. That singular decision to allow the primaries go ahead, when men like Adamu would have preferred otherwise, was the saving grace for the APC. That's the power of concession and compromise. Holding on to political power for a very lengthy period of time is contingent on one's ability to know when to distribute it. This is something PDP leaders have to learn, from Wike, to Atiku, to Ayu, etc. They are too self-centered for anything that would facilitate advancement to work. Funny thing is, even if the entire structure of the PDP is given to men like Wike, he would mess things up. If he didn't massively rig the last election, he knows he was on his way out without a predecessor. And he literally owns the entire Rivers PDP. That says a lot about the caliber of leaders in that party .

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Re: Will PDP Ever Bounce Back To Reckoning? - TonyeBarcanista by TonyeBarcanista(m): 5:58pm On May 14, 2023
savcy:


I align with your thoughts, sir. Actually the only reason the APC is still holding sway is because the opposition(s) are naive. The APC is a fundamentally fractured party. They were literally formed by four different tectonic formations. The fault lines exist and can be exploited any day, any time. If the APC were to be in the position of the PDP in the last election, they would have won easily. How? Concession and compromise. In 2015 they had one goal, and all interested parties made compromises and the party won.

In the build up to the primaries in 2022, if Buhari were an Atiku, he would have used power of incumbency to endorse a candidate other than Tinubu. The saviour of the APC is Buhari actually. That singular decision to allow the primaries go ahead, when men like Adamu would have preferred otherwise, was the saving grace for the APC. That's the power of concession and compromise. Holding on to political power for a very lengthy period of time is contingent on one's ability to know when to distribute it. This is something PDP leaders have to learn, from Wike, to Atiku, to Ayu, etc. They are too self-centered for anything that would facilitate advancement to work. Funny thing is, even if the entire structure of the PDP is given to men like Wike, he would mess things up. If he didn't massively rig the last election, he knows he was on his way out without a predecessor. And he literally owns the entire Rivers PDP. That says a lot about the caliber of leaders in that party .
Concession and Compromise... Two key words
Re: Will PDP Ever Bounce Back To Reckoning? - TonyeBarcanista by Emyogalanya: 9:47pm On Sep 07, 2023
iokpebholo:
Tonye 2023 was d year PDP would have bounce back but Obi and his flat head obidients crumbled everything...but surely d party will never die
or rather 2023 would have been igbo turn but Atiku , wike and pdp Crumbled it
Re: Will PDP Ever Bounce Back To Reckoning? - TonyeBarcanista by Emyogalanya: 9:58pm On Sep 07, 2023
iokpebholo:
LP with only a state governor dt will soon decamp is what you are hoping on abi
Cpc once had one governor too
Re: Will PDP Ever Bounce Back To Reckoning? - TonyeBarcanista by igwebuike01: 10:06pm On Sep 07, 2023
We Igbos made sure we destroy PDP after you underrated us. Tinubu benefitted from your foolishness taking Igbos for granted in PDP
Re: Will PDP Ever Bounce Back To Reckoning? - TonyeBarcanista by igwebuike01: 10:08pm On Sep 07, 2023
iokpebholo:
LP with only a state governor dt will soon decamp is what you are hoping on abi
They won 13 states without any governor. They don't need governor to win. All they need is INEC to be neutral

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