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Re: Addressing The Misconceptions Regarding The Great Bini Empire By Yorubas by PoloG: 3:30pm On May 13, 2023 |
Vado2:tiny bini should compare theirself with their fellow minority tribes .. We don't know binis exist here in the SW 1 Like |
Re: Addressing The Misconceptions Regarding The Great Bini Empire By Yorubas by Vado2: 5:19pm On May 13, 2023 |
PoloG: Whether Benin is small or not, it is undeniable that the Yorubas are a group of former slaves who moved from South America with no history other than a made-up one. It was revealed in this thread by smart individuals. You intended to make fun of the Great Edo people. Lol. Your tribe has this issue, though. You guys choose the other approach, using slurs and name-calling to deviate from the main topic rather than presenting facts to back up your claims. 3 Likes |
Re: Addressing The Misconceptions Regarding The Great Bini Empire By Yorubas by Vado2: 6:04pm On May 13, 2023 |
gaddafe: This thread is quite enlightening. Many intelligent people are starting to realize that the mythical Yoruba past is untrue. Because they already had western education they were able to dupe our ancestors with their treachery and lie, seeking to change a history they were never a part of. We are no longer susceptible to deception. I appreciate your input. Kindly throw more light on this if you can. 5 Likes |
Re: Addressing The Misconceptions Regarding The Great Bini Empire By Yorubas by Ologbo147: 6:35pm On May 13, 2023 |
Vado2:do not accept that tag tiny for any reason, Bini is a major minority, if they are looking for a tiny tribe, they should look up to their brother in Warri who will not even fill up two local government properly. With the population of 1952, Bini was well over a hundred and eighty thousand, while their small Itsekiri brothers was about 34 thousand. So in essence Bini is over five times the size of the Itsekiris. How can you call such group a tiny group, we are unarguably among the most polygamous in Nigeria and Africa, our population has increased tremendously In the last 100 years, please do not accept that tag, always challenge him on it, no one knows the actual population of the Binis today, but it is at the very least 4 million 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Addressing The Misconceptions Regarding The Great Bini Empire By Yorubas by AutomaticMotors: 6:57pm On May 13, 2023 |
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Re: Addressing The Misconceptions Regarding The Great Bini Empire By Yorubas by PoloG: 7:27pm On May 13, 2023 |
Vado2:i dont talk to tiny bini people both online and offline .. You are too small to be noticed Go discuss with your fellow tiny tribes in edo state 1 Like |
Re: Addressing The Misconceptions Regarding The Great Bini Empire By Yorubas by Ologbo147: 7:54pm On May 13, 2023 |
PoloG:Bini is bigger than Ekiti with sixteen local government. Bini with seven local government has about 1.5 million registered voters while Ekiti state as a whole with her sixteen local government has just one million registered voters. That certainly tells us something 4 Likes |
Re: Addressing The Misconceptions Regarding The Great Bini Empire By Yorubas by PoloG: 8:10pm On May 13, 2023 |
Ologbo147:tiny bini fool bini is a tribe and ekiti is a state.. You are comparing a tribe to a state. The state with the least population in SW Tiny bini boy 1 Like |
Re: Addressing The Misconceptions Regarding The Great Bini Empire By Yorubas by Ologbo147: 8:13pm On May 13, 2023 |
PoloG:Ekiti is a tribe too, unelightened fool, Yoruba is an ethnic group not a tribe. 3 Likes |
Re: Addressing The Misconceptions Regarding The Great Bini Empire By Yorubas by PoloG: 8:37pm On May 13, 2023 |
Ologbo147:so ekiti is a tribe while bini is a state Tiny brain dead bini boy 1 Like |
Re: Addressing The Misconceptions Regarding The Great Bini Empire By Yorubas by Ologbo147: 8:44pm On May 13, 2023 |
PoloG:ode Ekiti is a tribe, Bini is a tribe, Edo south(a single senatorial district)that the Binis are domiciled in is more numerous than Ekiti state 3 Likes |
Re: Addressing The Misconceptions Regarding The Great Bini Empire By Yorubas by PoloG: 8:53pm On May 13, 2023 |
Ologbo147:ekiti has over 3m population, is tiny bini population upto even 2m ? Osahon face your yahoo work 1 Like |
Re: Addressing The Misconceptions Regarding The Great Bini Empire By Yorubas by Ologbo147: 8:58pm On May 13, 2023 |
PoloG:yet Edo south that does not have up to 2 million has 1.5 million registered Voters with a chunk of the Bini population yet outside and Ekiti that has up to 3 million has barely 1 million registered voters. My brother face your skull mining business 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Addressing The Misconceptions Regarding The Great Bini Empire By Yorubas by Creeper: 8:59pm On May 13, 2023 |
Vado2: I’m not interested in fictional revisionism by jobless villagers. The only globally acclaimed authority in the academic world on Benin history, Jacob Egharevba, and his book (which is the Bible for Benin history) are attached to this post. His picture and his acclaimed book are in Liverpool Museum. And according to Jacob Egharevba, Ekahaladerhan died in Ughoton and Eweka was a Yoruba prince from Ife. Ife the GREAT EMPIRE that used glass beads as currency and the creator of artistic masterpieces that no one else in the world could replicate. And the GREAT IMPERIAL OYO EMPIRE - the only empire in the forest belt of Africa that used calvary. Yoruba people - great people, great history and the future of Africa! Benin Kingdom got pummelled by small kingdoms, lol. Benin = most overrated medieval kingdom in Africa - with embellished fake history. [Picture of Jacob Egharevba (the authority on Benin history) and his book as displayed at the Liverpool Museum] 2 Likes
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Re: Addressing The Misconceptions Regarding The Great Bini Empire By Yorubas by PoloG: 9:37pm On May 13, 2023 |
Ologbo147:so voters registration is what you want to use to determine population of a state.. You don't know of voter apathy ? Dumb bini boy .. Compare the popution of lagos to its registered voters and see if your logic makes sense.. Also compare it to the vote turn out in the last election Stupid aisosa. 1 Like |
Re: Addressing The Misconceptions Regarding The Great Bini Empire By Yorubas by Ologbo147: 9:57pm On May 13, 2023 |
PoloG:Shut up ignorant fool The voter’s apathy is about the same in the south, there is clearly no people in Ekiti, Naturally a state or a place that is more peopled has more voters registration, Lagos is the most peopled state in Nigeria, it has the most number of voters registration in the south follow by rivers, delta, Oyo etc , it naturally follows that trend. 500,000 is too large to excuse for voter’s apathy(as that is about half of the total registered voters in Ekiti state ) (voter’s apathy is not really relevant as the figure being talked about is not the figure of those that votes but figure of those that registered at all for the process, we know most persons don’t register to vote but they register to collect the voters card as a means of identification)especially when we are talking about voter’s registration figure of a million and a million and half. And also when a figure is consistent over three voting periods. It leaves one to conclude that such a place is clearly not peopled, I mean you can’t give what you don’t have most persons usually do not come out to vote, because they want to use the card as a means of identification in Banks and other establishment that may have need for it, that is why I said the apathy talk is not necessary.if it was a figure of 100,000 or 70,000. We might excuse it but not 500, 000 when the figures under debate is one million. Before the 2023 election, Ekiti’s figure was 923, 000 even with the long window span that was in place for the 2022 registration, Ekiti could barely increase her numbers to 990,000, just 67,000 increase with the over 4 months window, then you want to excuse 500,000. You are a clown. Ekiti is among the least populated if not the least populated state in Nigeria All I wrote here I know it will take your dead dumb brain cells 3 years to assimilate but you will eventually 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Addressing The Misconceptions Regarding The Great Bini Empire By Yorubas by Ologbo147: 10:01pm On May 13, 2023 |
PoloG:That 7 million adult that collected their voters card usually do not collect their card for the sake of voting, most do for the sake of identification Lagos has about 7 million adult voters, when you add the number of children and teenagers and some unregistered voters m, Lagos should spur up to some 15 to17 million . It can’t be more than that. No body did the census to come up with the fact that Lagos is 22 million, it’s not close to, I have argued it here before 4 Likes |
Re: Addressing The Misconceptions Regarding The Great Bini Empire By Yorubas by superclosestool: 1:07am On May 14, 2023 |
Blackdeewhy: So where can I look up and find your detailed and reliable history? |
Re: Addressing The Misconceptions Regarding The Great Bini Empire By Yorubas by Christistruth02: 2:11pm On May 14, 2023 |
Creeper: General Ogedengbe of Ilesha and the Ekiti Parapo Army almost took over the Benin Kingdom in the 1870s na only the Oba of Benins desperate attempts to Pacify Ogedengbe through begging and gifts save them Till today many Edo who descended from that invading Army still bear the Ijesha name Ogedengbe 1 Like |
Re: Addressing The Misconceptions Regarding The Great Bini Empire By Yorubas by gaddafe(m): 6:13pm On May 14, 2023 |
Trizyd: What? Do you think everyone on this site is a two years old kid? What is that? 18th century map is all over the internet. If you are used to looking at ancient maps, you will instantly know that what you posted is rubbish. Attached below are 18th century maps. 2 Likes
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Re: Addressing The Misconceptions Regarding The Great Bini Empire By Yorubas by gaddafe(m): 6:51pm On May 14, 2023 |
Vado2: The issue is the typing, copying and pasting. It's not easy especially when using the phone. And most people here will need a picture to know if you're saying the truth or not. To verify what my brothers here have said you need to visit the British library (Library of Congress) and also use the Portuguese maps. Look at their map as at when they landed and discovered these areas. You will not find Oyo in the map. It was not because it didn't exist but because it was a small settlement that was insignificant. However to what I said earlier it is public knowledge that when the British was trying to amalgamate Nigeria and educate us, they insisted and encouraged the South Western people to use a common language which in their wisdom they felt it should be the Yoruba dialect since it was spoken by the majority of people. It was the same strategy they used for the north and east. This was the beginning of Yoruba per se. I will leave that part for another day as there is already a thread here on NL that covers this history holistically. Prior to the British coming here, there was nothing like Yoruba. What existed was just tribes. Various tribes were at war with each other and when your tribe is defeated some of your population will be captured as slaves. Some of these slaves were later sold to the whites. The Benin spoke a lot of dialect but the current language been spoken today and called Benin was actually spoken in the Palace and used as a coded language sort of. Those that spoke the language we refer to as the Yoruba dialect of today were also regarded as Benin and had the same full privilege as a Benin man. In most cases, they were given positions even in the Palace. This is why you see that in the current day Benin there seems to be so much dialect and their settlement is close to the Palace. There was nothing like discrimination based on language, those stuffs started with the British. The Benin understood nationhood, they knew that we could not all speak the same language and be brothers. Everyone was living together and peacefully before that invasion... Will continue later 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Addressing The Misconceptions Regarding The Great Bini Empire By Yorubas by Usenokpevbo: 7:08pm On May 14, 2023 |
gaddafe:In Benin it is only one dialect that is spoken o 2 Likes |
Re: Addressing The Misconceptions Regarding The Great Bini Empire By Yorubas by gaddafe(m): 9:07pm On May 14, 2023 |
Usenokpevbo: What I said, you are free to confirm from any high chief in Benin. It was even once said in a program aired in Benin " Ibota" |
Re: Addressing The Misconceptions Regarding The Great Bini Empire By Yorubas by gaddafe(m): 9:10pm On May 14, 2023 |
Usenokpevbo: I re- read your statement and I thought of something. What you know as Benin today, is not what was known as Benin in the 18th century. The Benin I'm referring to there is the one of the 18th century thereabouts not the Benin of today. The Benin of today has one language. And the areas I'm referring to as being close to the Palace are places like Igbanke, asaba, akoko Edo etc. These areas are considered close to the Palace when you consider the size of Benin in the 18th century 1 Like |
Re: Addressing The Misconceptions Regarding The Great Bini Empire By Yorubas by Usenokpevbo: 9:38pm On May 14, 2023 |
gaddafe:Whatever your point was, the motive and the idea came out as wrong.Akoko Edo is not considered as part of Benin city or the entire Bini land of today albeit it is part of Edo state. Same with Asaba even though they were part of the empire. Akoko Edo to Benin city is not by any standard close neither is Asaba. And besides these were your statements”This is why you see that in the current day Benin there seems to be so much dialect and their settlement is close to the Palace” Anyone who will read this will certainly misinterpret it. What you opined by your statement is that in the current day Benin which is Edo south. There seem to be so much dialect. Asaba and Akoko Edo are not in current day Benin. Asaba and Akoko Edo is not by any standard close to the palace and they operate as different entities today even though they have subtle respect for the Bini Monarch Anyone layman who will read that your statement will assume that there are several tribes in Benin whose settlements is a stone throw from the palace. Not knowing that you are talking about settlements that is not within the current Bini territory of today, some being in other states entirely while the Akoko Edo is In the far flung northern part of Edo state. 3 Likes |
Re: Addressing The Misconceptions Regarding The Great Bini Empire By Yorubas by gaddafe(m): 11:50pm On May 14, 2023 |
Usenokpevbo: I don't think I have time for this back and forth statement. Before that my post you're referring to, there was a previous post which I clearly gave the original map of the Benin in the 18th century. So the second post you're referring to is a follow up of the previous. If you didn't see that you can't blame for it. Benin as it is known today was not the way it was in the 18th century. Both Akoko Edo and the others you mentioned were included in Benin in the 18th century. I've explained this previously. I can't be going back and forth. I believe I was clear on that from my very post. If comprehension is giving you problems refrain from quoting me |
Re: Addressing The Misconceptions Regarding The Great Bini Empire By Yorubas by Usenokpevbo: 2:13am On May 15, 2023 |
gaddafe:in anything you do be expressly expressed. “This is why you see that in the [b]current day Benin there seems to be so much dialect and their settlement is close to the Palace” This is what you wrote, you ought to have taken correction and given it up, as a lay reader, I would have been confused. In a bid to make up your lay point, you should not indirectly pass an erroneous comment, it is not right. you had a hidden motive, I had to call you out on it 2 Likes |
Re: Addressing The Misconceptions Regarding The Great Bini Empire By Yorubas by freshkpomo(m): 9:51am On May 15, 2023 |
Creeper: If eweka was a Yoruba prince, who is Oromiyan then? If Idah defeated Benin why do we have OGIDA (Frome ogie Idah, who was good at delivering pregnant women) in Benin which was a settlement given to the captured Idah king and till date his lineage still lives there.. Yorubas are the ones twisting history, even your Yoruba brother in Ekiti confirmed to me once that their king said he is from Edo. Even if Ekaladeran died as you mentioned, did Oduduwa truly fall from the sky? You are just quoting rubbish. Have you watch and esan man and Benin man speak? That should give you a clue why they where able to defeat the Benin Kingdom. 1 Like |
Re: Addressing The Misconceptions Regarding The Great Bini Empire By Yorubas by freshkpomo(m): 9:56am On May 15, 2023 |
Godjone: An average Benin man does not give birth to more than 3 or 4 children maximum and it has been like that for years. Go across Nigeria and you will see families having 8 to 10 children which seems normal to them. But here in Benin You will be called a rabbit or pig for doing that. It's like saying Greece was not at a time Great because of how it is today and Smaller countries of today that are now Great are a proof that Greece was not in the past Great. 1 Like |
Re: Addressing The Misconceptions Regarding The Great Bini Empire By Yorubas by freshkpomo(m): 9:58am On May 15, 2023 |
Vado2: Nor mind all these ones that reason with half of their head, no wonder they stood under the sun to vote tinubu and even do thuggery on top am. 1 Like |
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