being:
Let me take u up here again.
Take some time? U think kids have all the time in d world.. b4 u know it they are adults.
Flogging gives them that sense of urgency to change. A small child cannot cope with d pain of flogging so once he smells the cane, he IMMEDIATELY finds a way to control himself against the bad habit you are trying to correct and that SELF CONTROL stays with him.

bepositive11:
Have you ever heard stories about people being killed and having their parts cut out in the West? How many times have you heard of it in Nigeria? What makes people that heartless?

So Nigeria doesn't have cultists, gang members and drug addicts?

Another thing is you can't compare Western kids and African keeps only based on flogging. There is so much more that goes into parenting.

Whether African or Western, kids who are brought up in healthy and non abusive environments are the best behave. You don't need to physically or psychologically abuse a child to make them behave well. There are many non abusive forms of discipline.

Do you know how brutal the Bible was centuries ago? We know a lot more now. We understand child psychology better now. Just like how you say man should not beat woman or woman should not beat man, adults should not beat children. Period.

bepositive11:
The stubborn children I know never changed because their parents beat them. They still did what they wanted to do. They just hid it from their parents.

No amount of flogging can teach a child self control. If you want to teach a child self control, start by controlling yourself.

All you people keep saying flogging is discipline. But the truth is that you are taking out your anger on that poor, helpless, and vulnerable child.

VinnyBaba:


Some Rich Men still punish their Kids!

Maybe Not by Flogging but by Physical Beating and other Means.🤨

Truth is No Parents intend to Beat his/her Child but sometimes Children do the Unimaginable.
And You as the Parents should BEAT them seriously.😕

My Neighbour's 10 yrs old son once came from School, went to a Barbing Salon owned by YAHOO BOYS
Begged to Play PS4 and gave out N500 to buy Fuel for their Gen.
And Played till 7pm.😒

When the Mother who is a Pacifist like you Came, U need to See BEATINGS with Hands, Sticks and Wires. 😊🙂

Samantha124:
The one time a teacher flogged me, he ended up getting suspended..

And few years back my cousin hit me and she ended up in a police van..

So I don't think flogging a child solves any problems, it just makes matters worse.. My parents never did flogged me.

One thing about me is that if you lay your hands on me or insult me in the name of instilling discipline, you'll only be bringing the worst out of me... But if you hit me with facts, I will be humbled and listen... I've always been like that.

AutoConsult:
Some children need beating at a certain age. It works very well. I recall I used to be a very stubborn child. One day, my mum beat me and almost broke my hand. That was the last time she beat me, cos I changed completely after that. They even noticed in school.

BRIMBRAM:


He should have flogged her on her head instead. I agree with you.

being:

@bepositive11
A lot of stubborn children do change cos of beating.
In any case if they don't, take their case to their Creator!

Yugoslavia247:
Despite all the flogging, we are still the most corrupt nation. High rate of internet fraud, hook up.

Flogging never actually worked.

Many parents flogg and gave up. Children revolt and fight back. Children become more dangerous and beast mode is activated.

Alot of children want to stay away from home.

At the end the flogging will at a point be needless. That is when most parent use the real parenting skills of advise and pleading.

You can not flog an 18 year old. He will fight you.

I think real parenting is the ability to use the other forms of effective punishment and reward approach. Because advise is the best.

In school the most notorious are still the most flogged. Did they stop being notorious? No.

The most pampered are more willing to excel academically.

In parenting, the ability to use the carrot and stick approach effectively works to a very large extent.

Children get use to beating and it becomes ineffective.

At a point you would not be able to beat that child. What will you do?

This is Africa where we we teach morals to children and encourage corruption of adults

Spits


In Africa is where a Father teaches his children not to steal while he loots his place of work endlessly

We actually are too lazy in African schools to imbibe theories of parenting and teaching. We prefer the easier route. Using pain and fear.

If many Nigeria teachers were living abroad they will learn patience and respect for children rights.

We most certainly do not respect that in Nigeria.

Many wealthy politicians sent their children to these schools in Nigeria where no one hits their children.

These same children end up the in elite and political class. They very confident and outspoken.

Flogging is for the poor.

seanwilliam:

99% of people will read this and pass,
What you said here can never be thought in schools or anywhere. Infact, there’s 80% chances that people won’t understand this even if they experience it.
You must be extremely smart , I mean a super intelligent person to say the bolded
.
I’ll love to be your friend !.

Geovanni412:


Flogging is ineffective because you cannot flog away reality

A hungry man will do whatever that is necessary to survive

Prisoners can plan for 10 years to escape a prison

What makes people think that flogging is correction is beyond me?

The most effective form of punishment is psychological control

That's why a woman can control a man despite being half his size

gannod:




😂😂😂 you just proved to me that your parents made mistake of not flogging you. Imagine the nonsense a 'so-called' adult spewed on a platform such as this! Now, if you have any problem with 'spare a rod and spoil a child' take it up with God. It is in the Bible and I align with it. Take your frustration to your parents who failed to train you well..cheers!

MechanicMike:


Son..the good news Is u sound like. A peterfile on nairaland for abusing children...so Yor idea of raising children is flogging them naaked... corrrrrrrect? U should jail sir(no offenscce)

gannod:




I still maintain you should redirect your frustration and idiocy to your unfortunate parents who refused to train you well. Tell them to teach you how to speak in public and how to air your opinion on any topic(s) without recourse to insults. With the nonsense you continue to spew, one can conclude you came from the caves where manners are never preached. Infact, it was because of retards like you that the Op asked the question.

donb06:
■ He might be correct, but i can tell you with fact that most of these woke parents are being psychologically manipulated by there kids. I can tell you from my elder sister's child. a boy of barely nine months will bite the mom while sucking breast and immediately look into the mom's eyes, the mom being my sister will just laugh it off even when in serious pains. He did that two more times, i became very irritated with the whole scenario. luckily my mother was in the scene. he did it the fourth time, my mom angrily stood up, took the boy from her and gave him two light but wonderful flicks on the the lips. he cried loud, my sister felt bad, but that was the last time he bit her while sucking. that singular scene made me think for a very long time. My Mom later told me that discipline of a child starts from 6 months. have also seen many kids manipulating there parents.

caandi:
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bepositive11:


¹ Why can't you present the child with the consequences without flogging them? What do you gain from flogging them?

As a child, when you did something wrong, didn't you know that you made a mistake? Did you need your parents to flog you before you knew that you made a mistake?

² I hated my parents flogging me with passion. ³Till this day I don't understand how you people are okay with a man or woman flogging a child but not okay with a man flogging a woman or a woman flogging a man.

What would you do if someone flogged you today? Won't you call it abuse? Won't you flog them back? It's because children are vulnerable and helpless that's why you people flog them anyhow.

LeyeWrites:
■ Discipline and learning are two different things.
■ When I was a child I had asthma. My dad would tell me son don't go and play football, it triggers your condition. I'll go and play football. Then when I come back I got asthma attack. My parents would be unable to sleep throughout the night. The next couple of times I did, my dad start flogging me and it helped.
■ When I was a student in secondary school, we were flogged for many things. Late coming: that taught me punctuality. Noise making: that taught me I'm partly responsible for the efficiency of any team I'm in. Assignments: that I should meet deadlines on whatever tasks I'm given. Would you had rather students don't do assignments? And teachers rather talk to them on it?
■ Have you been to northern Nigeria schools?
■ Look, the benefit of discipline through flogging outweighs whatever medical junks you've been fed by the West. As far as I'm concerned, I'll discipline my kids the way I was disciplined to make me a better person. You can treat yours the ways you want.
■ But you folks should stop trying to impose your views on a longstanding culture of parenting that have stood the test of times. Of course, you lots want Nigeria to have young adults like those in West who are now homosexuals and gun shooters.

Staphylococcus:


Nigerian cultist are learners to their western counterparts. Give me statistics of gang related killings in Nigeria and let me present that of America.

Psychology or therapy classes is not a perfect approach. Flogging has worked since the existence of man and it’s result has been outstanding.

The therapy and psychological classes only breeds the worst sets of humans. Countries adopting those wokeness are good examples. Places where basic morals, manners, values and etiquettes are rare.

efficiencie:


One the point 1, did you read that bold statement and did you think about it deeply before posting it? You expect a child to grasp the magnitude of the consequence of his or her actions by explanation and dialogue abi? Okay you have a child poking a fork in a live socket. So the next thing you do is sit your child, less than 5 years old, and have a heart felt talk about the science of electricity, electrocution and death, right? Can you see how absurd that is? Or your child climbs the cabinet picks a jar of prescription drugs and mimics you by taking a handful of pills and attempts swallows all. Then you call the child calmly, sit him or her down and read out the details on the prescription leaflet, discuss what overdose means and explain the science of painkillers. Really? I don't know about you but I am not going to raise my children in such a manner. I am a parent not a toy.

On your second point, you may be right to hate your parents if they flogged you just to vent their anger and not to simulate consequence. Venting your anger on a defenseless person is wrong in everyway and this is what many conflate with discipline. It is not discipline rather it is turning that child into a sadist or a masochist. So I agree with you on this point. Flogging to me doesn't mean beating up a child until he or she has bruises and wounds all over his or her body. No. To me punishment should be administered like a drug. Over do it and it becomes a lethal overdose but do it guided by reason and at a level of severity that is harmless and you can drive home points faster.

On your third point, a child and an adult are two different stages. The former does not have the capacity to bear consequences but the latter does. If a child, a teenager, takes his father's money and blows it on booze, corporal punishment would set his errant head straight but if a wife takes her husband's hard earned money and gives it to her boyfriend and this comes to the knowledge of the husband the wife can be divorced, arrested and jailed for theft. See the difference?

bepositive11:
Tell me how many stories you have heard about Americans kidnapping their fellow people and cutting of their body parts.

Nigerians also learned that from the West abi?

MechanicMike:



so u believef flogging naaaaked children is good punishment BECOZ it's a Nigerian way... corrrrrrrect? U bring shame on Nigeria & peterfile like u should be jail.....have u ever been arrested for child phonograph sir coz u think beating up children are ok..shame on u(no offenscce)

Samantha124:
Funny enough, as a child I was also cautioned against watching movies consisting of a parental guidance of 16VSN... Up until this day, I check the movie's parental guidance first before I could watch it because I still like sticking to movies consisting of a parental guidance of 13VL or ALL... Maybe that's why I still watch cartoons..

The only movies that I remember watching that surpassed 13VL is Doctor Strange in the multiverse of madness because apart from Venom, I love marvel movies, but I later regretted it because it consisted of horror and I don't watch horror...

And another one is Power series because I love African American gangster movies. Apart other things, I found it interesting.. I had to read what was it about before watching it... But with most movies, immediately I see 16 or 18 as part of the parental guidance, I move..

And before I could also leave home for the University for the first time, my entire family members sat me down and told about the importance of the 7 B's( Books Before Boys Because Boys Bring Babies)... You may not believe this but I stayed single throughout my University days until I did my finals, I only got into a relationship during the later stage of my final year and it was with the same guy my parents separated me from when they took me away to a university that was far from home, we're now engaged.

I could've decided to fight them because I wanted to go to the university that was close to home, but I didn't because I knew they were only trying to do what was best for me... They only allowed me to do a transfer to the one close to home on the same final year.

And my mother is not the religious type, but she told me to look for a church I can go to when I get to the university, which I did and it kept me disciplined because even though I had friends who partied, had multiple boyfriends, and drank alcohol, I didn't do any of those things because I remembered that I made a promise to my family.

And my parents didn't have to shout at me, flog me, or threatened me in order for me to listen... All they did is adviced me.

There are a lot of other things they taught me without raising their hands.

Staphylococcus:


Some people on the thread would say, your mum should have talked to you about the butt.

Beating will crest some things in your head that, you will never forget. I do many things now involuntarily and it’s all because of how I was raised. There are lines I have been programmed as a kid to never cross.

gannod:






I still maintain you need to go back to your unfortunate parents who gave birth to a simpleton like you, let them teach you how to talk or comment on sundry issues. If they had used the rod on you from the beginning, you would have been civil enough in public. I understand they are as dumb as you are because it takes a dumb people to give birth to a retard.
According to you, it is a Nigerian thing to use the rod on kids but that is traditional African thing( I stand to be corrected) since you are dumb to know it is a corrective measure, you can continue to wallow in your ignorance.

too late to apologice...YOu are a peterfile.... shame on you!!(no offenscce)

Kobojunkie:
What do you think would have happened if, rather than give him the flick on his lips, your sister filled his mouth with drops of maybe dogonyaro water each time he bit her? Do you not think the results would have been the same only less painful? The shock alone would wake up not just his pain receptors but his taste buds and other senses at the same time.

Being against flogging does not mean one resigns entirely to not disciplining kids. Rather, it is acknowledging that there are many less traumatizing and even more effective ways to train a child.

donb06:
■ You don't give children any kind of herbs Without proper prescription. You never can tell the reaction to his body chemistry. Don't get me wrong, some parents or guardians are literally wicked.
■ But some form of light corporal punishment is needed to straighten up any child. Parents should study there children and apply the necessary discipline.
■ In my family of five kids I was flogged the most. My mom studied all her children related to them accordingly. My sisters were rarely flogged because they preferred this talking kind of thing. My two brothers were also very mild. But you see me ... Talk no dey enter my head at all. My mom noticed it and dealt the hell out of me. She always said
of all her children, I was the one that took after her. She was this ginger person.
■ Study kids and relate with them accordingly. Don't be rigid with the process. Be fluid and dynamic.

Kobojunkie:
1. I didn't ask you of your private suggestion regarding what you call herbs or vegetables. I asked you whether the end result would not have been similar..

2. You were flogged primarily because your mother and your father believed flogging was the only capable option there was. Generations before them were fed that tale as well that flogging was the best option. But here I asked you of another option that could have aided and you seem unable to process it.

3. Flogging may not have been needed at all. That reset that flogging gives a child comes at a cost. Look around Nigeria, and all of Africa, to see that cost.

4. If your mother had not only studied you but also studied other ways to get to you, she wouldn't have needed to flog at all as she would have realized that even for the most stubborn, there are alternative ways to reach the child without needing to damage his or her will.

wehdone:


It would interest you to know that if they had just "talked" to me back then, I would have forgotten about all they said. I would have smoked hemp!

I went to a boarding school, and my room mates, friends, bunk mate we're all smokers!!! Nothing would have stopped me from having a taste of it. Well... I never did! I never even collected the blunt! I enjoy the smell of hemp when someone else is smoking it, but I have never tasted it! I still remember mom's beatings even till today (I have 3 kids)!

I can afford to buy as much as my brain can carry and more, but I've never ever bought even the smallest one, I know where it's sold, but don't know who sells.

Don't get me wrong... I'm a very adventurous type, and a wild being. I am very sure if I wasn't beaten when they saw me with the cigarette, nothing would have stopped me! Now, I wish they did same to me about some other vices like having too many female friends. Jeezzz...I had upto 10 girl friends at some point, and we were all good! I wished they flogged me to "don't do that", maybe I would be a good boy with fewer body counts😭😭😭. I was adviced to use protection instead. Now, I wish I knew only my wife

being:
Pls tell, what is this cost to Africa and also Asia?