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Re: ************************ by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:31am On May 17, 2023
The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob never sent anyone to go and preach the Jewish faith in other lands except Jesus of Nazareth who said:

"All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth. Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you. And look! I am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things" Matthew 28:18-20

So no Jew can confidently and convincingly speak about his beliefs as something to be taken to other countries.
The first and last time a Jew will leave Israel for another nation's safety was when Jonah was sent to declare the day God will destroy Nineveh for their cruelty (not their religion) otherwise there's no reason sending a prophet to tell another nation your God will destroy them due to their idolatry when there are many other nations practicing the same thing!

Jonah preached about Nineveh's destruction in 40 days but God changed His mind because Ninevites repented and stopped their cruelty the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob never sent anyone to preach the Mosaic laws to other nations because it was meant for Israel and Israel alone! smiley
Re: ************************ by MindHacker9009(op): 8:32am On May 17, 2023
Then why are the Mosaic laws in the Christain Bible?

MaxInDHouse:
The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob never sent anyone to go and preach the Jewish faith in other lands except Jesus of Nazareth who said:

"All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth. Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you. And look! I am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things" Matthew 28:18-20

So no Jew can confidently and convincingly speak about his beliefs as something to be taken to other countries.
The first and last time a Jew will leave Israel for another nation's safety was when Jonah was sent to declare the day God will destroy Nineveh for their cruelty (not their religion) otherwise there's no reason sending a prophet to tell another nation your God will destroy them due to their idolatry when there are many other nations practicing the same thing!

Jonah preached about Nineveh's destruction in 40 days but God changed His mind because Ninevites repented and stopped their cruelty the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob never sent anyone to preach the Mosaic laws to other nations because it was meant for Israel and Israel alone! smiley
Re: ************************ by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:51am On May 17, 2023
MindHacker9009:
Then why are the Mosaic laws in the Christain Bible?
That's why it was separated!
Old Testament: How the true God dealt with a nation He chose after the earth has been corrupted by evildoers, God established that nation and gave them laws which will continue to guide them until a promised redeemer will be born in their midst. Those laws will serve as their constitution separating them from all other nations under human rules and standards.
New Testament: How the redeemer was born and established the standard God wants all humans to live by that is only those that wants to no matter where they are or the laws of the land they live this standard will perfectly work for them untill God decides to bring an end to all badness.

So if all the story wasn't included in the Bible there's no way we can distinguish between the true God and other gods since all gods have at one time or another performed great signs. It's the story found in the Bible of how everything began that made it easy to differentiate between the One who created all things and demigods who only has powers to perform wonders!
Re: ************************ by MindHacker9009(op): 1:57pm On May 17, 2023
Yet even slaves were treated better in the Old Testament than in your New Testeament invented by the Roman empire to control the nations they have conquered and the slaves they have.

MaxInDHouse:
That's why it was separated!
Old Testament: How the true God dealt with a nation He chose after the earth has been corrupted by evildoers, God established that nation and gave them laws which will continue to guide them until a promised redeemer will be born in their midst. Those laws will serve as their constitution separating them from all other nations under human rules and standards.
New Testament: How the redeemer was born and established the standard God wants all humans to live by that is only those that wants to no matter where they are or the laws of the land they live this standard will perfectly work for them untill God decides to bring an end to all badness.

So if all the story wasn't included in the Bible there's no way we can distinguish between the true God and other gods since all gods have at one time or another performed great signs. It's the story found in the Bible of how everything began that made it easy to differentiate between the One who created all things and demigods who only has powers to perform wonders!
Re: ************************ by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:05pm On May 17, 2023
MindHacker9009:
Yet even slaves were treated better in the Old Testament than in your New Testeament invented by the Roman empire to control the nations they have conquered and the slaves they have.
It seems you just want to argue.
The point is the God of Israel never ever send any Jew to propagate the Mosaic laws so Jews can't confidently go talking about their laws since their God never asked them to do so! smiley
Re: ************************ by MindHacker9009(op): 1:24pm On May 18, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
It seems you just want to argue.
The point is the God of Israel never ever send any Jew to propagate the Mosaic laws so Jews can't confidently go talking about their laws since their God never asked them to do so! smiley
You are the oine that always like to argue as you don't want to agree with the truth that the Roman empire invented your Jesus Christ.

Judaism is a light to the world and anyone God Almighty directs can follow Judaism.

Now list the priciples of your organisation lets see if it's any match to that of Judasm list above.
Re: ************************ by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:51pm On May 18, 2023
MindHacker9009:
You are the oine that always like to argue as you don't want to agree with the truth that the Roman empire invented your Jesus Christ.
Judaism is a light to the world and anyone God Almighty directs can follow Judaism.
Now list the priciples of your organisation lets see if it's any match to that of Judasm list above.
Guy it's not about laws but achievements!

The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob promised to make peace reign among His worshipers {Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3} so that they will speak in agreement as One big and happy family of peace loving worshipers! Zephaniah 3:9

Ọmọ no matter the laws or rules it's worthless if this has not been achieved, it's like asking a man from Nigeria to tell you about laws in fact you will be overwhelmed with big grammars and if you ask a Nigerian to talk about science you will hear so much but compare to a Chinese man who can't speak much English yet they're producing the best in electronics and their laws is effective in their society.

So continue enjoying your talks about the laws of the Jews while we are enjoying the blessings God promised {Isaiah 65:13-14} soon the true God will destroy all religionists defaming His name without achieving success in doing His will but as for His own people He has given us another group name JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 65:15 smiley
Re: ************************ by sonmvayina(m): 2:01pm On May 18, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
It seems you just want to argue.
The point is the God of Israel never ever send any Jew to propagate the Mosaic laws so Jews can't confidently go talking about their laws since their God never asked them to do so! smiley
It was for them..

God gave his laws to all of mankind..

The Romans stole theirs, and created a false Messiah and added it at the back of the Jewish one to sell to unsuspecting people like you...

You rightly made a division. God never said he was sending his son as the Messiah to the nation in the Tanakh...

So where did your jesus idea come from?
Re: ************************ by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:15pm On May 18, 2023
sonmvayina:
It was for them..

God gave his laws to all of mankind..

The Romans stole theirs, and created a false Messiah and added it at the back of the Jewish one to sell to unsuspecting people like you...

You rightly made a division. God never said he was sending his son as the Messiah to the nation in the Tanakh...

So where did your jesus idea come from?
From the same God who promised that He will bless those who do His will that's why God's organization is fulfilling what God promised today! Isaiah 2:2-4

Sorry i made you use your second moniker!
Re: ************************ by Kobojunkie: 2:29pm On May 18, 2023
MindHacker9009:
Then why are the Mosaic laws in the Christain Bible?
Because God's Special Nation of Priests - Exodus 19 vs 6 - also consists only of those who are of the blood of Israel, formerly of His Old Law? undecided
Re: ************************ by sonmvayina(m): 2:41pm On May 18, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
From the same God who promised that He will bless those who do His will that's why God's organization is fulfilling what God promised today! Isaiah 2:2-4

Sorry i made you use your second moniker!
How did the Romans arrive at jesus just by reading the Tanakh?

There is not where in the entire Tanakh that remotely speak about jesus....?

It has got nothing to do with the Jews......stop using your paganism to judge them,...their Torah is for them and then alone...
Re: ************************ by sonmvayina(m): 2:46pm On May 18, 2023
Kobojunkie:
Because God's Special Nation of Priests - Exodus 19 vs 6 - also consists only of those who are of the blood of Israel, formerly of His Old Law? undecided
What does this even mean?
God gave them a law which was for ever...

Is there anywhere it says God is sending his son to usher in a new law for other nations or for the Jews..

Did God ever told them a new law was coming?
How did the Romans arrive at jesus just by reading the Tanakh?

You people like to use the paganism in the christian books to judge the Jews...

Read their own first...I bet you, you will curse the days of your being a Christian (ignorance)
Re: ************************ by sonmvayina(m): 2:51pm On May 18, 2023
There was already a punishment for anybody coming to change Gods laws or enticing the Jews to follow other God...

Why would a Jew deliberately want to incur God's wrath? By dragging them to follow jesus..

What was in the jesus story that even glorify God? Nothing!? All mockery against God..
Re: ************************ by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:53pm On May 18, 2023
sonmvayina:
How did the Romans arrive at jesus just by reading the Tanakh? There is not where in the entire Tanakh that remotely speak about jesus....? LIt has got nothing to do with the Jews......stop using your paganism to judge them,...their Torah is for them and then alone...
You keep amusing me!
Even foolish humans like you and i will not favour indigenes claiming Nigerians when they can't make good use of Nigerian constitution more than foreigners who are making things work out as planned.

So stop this childish stupidity infused in your head by that your Jewish cultist landlord! smiley
Re: ************************ by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:55pm On May 18, 2023
sonmvayina:
What was in the jesus story that even glorify God? Nothing!? All mockery against God..
He is the Prince of Peace according to Isaiah 9:6 and through his teachings a global family of peace loving worshipers has sufficed.

Ọmọ there's nothing those faithless Jews can do again Jesus has proved to be Lord! smiley
Re: ************************ by sonmvayina(m): 3:56pm On May 18, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
You keep amusing me!
Even foolish humans like you and i will not favour indigenes claiming Nigerians when they can't make good use of Nigerian constitution more than foreigners who are making things work out as planned.

So stop this childish stupidity infused in your head by that your Jewish cultist landlord! smiley
You know it is the truth...that's why you are saying something unrelated..
Re: ************************ by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:10pm On May 18, 2023
sonmvayina:
You know it is the truth...that's why you are saying something unrelated..
Truth WORKS so if something isn't working it simply means something is wrong somewhere.

Those Jews rendered God's plan useless as they rejected Jesus of Nazareth through whom God wanted to establish the New Covenant but at last they're fighting and killing themselves not knowing how to establish pure worship.
So God turned His attention to none Israelites who will produce the fruit of faith that's why those faithless Jews have nothing to preach or teach because God never ever asked them to do so!
Re: ************************ by sonmvayina(m): 4:23pm On May 18, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
He is the Prince of Peace according to Isaiah 9:6 and through his teachings a global family of peace loving worshipers has sufficed.

Ọmọ there's nothing those faithless Jews can do again Jesus has proved to be Lord! smiley
Lord of the flies...

Hahahahaha....according to the hem Isaiah was talking about future king Hezekiah....

So try again...

You know it....but you just want to hold on to delusion..
Re: ************************ by sonmvayina(m): 4:24pm On May 18, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Truth WORKS so if something isn't working it simply means something is wrong somewhere.

Those Jews rendered God's plan useless as they rejected Jesus of Nazareth through whom God wanted to establish the New Covenant but at last they're fighting and killing themselves not knowing how to establish pure worship.
So God turned His attention to none Israelites who will produce the fruit of faith that's why those faithless Jews have nothing to preach or teach because God never ever asked them to do so!
So when did God promise them jesus?
Re: ************************ by sonmvayina(m): 4:26pm On May 18, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Truth WORKS so if something isn't working it simply means something is wrong somewhere.

Those Jews rendered God's plan useless as they rejected Jesus of Nazareth through whom God wanted to establish the New Covenant but at last they're fighting and killing themselves not knowing how to establish pure worship.
So God turned His attention to none Israelites who will produce the fruit of faith that's why those faithless Jews have nothing to preach or teach because God never ever asked them to do so!
The God of the Jews has nothing to do with jesus. He is a Roman creation...
After 2000+ years, their faith is still strong

If they turn around God will punish them...

It is idolatry...
Re: ************************ by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:35pm On May 18, 2023
sonmvayina:
Lord of the flies...
Hahahahaha....according to the hem Isaiah was talking about future king Hezekiah....
So try again...
You know it....but you just want to hold on to delusion..
Hezekiah the wonderful counselor.
Hezekiah the mighty God.
Hezekiah the everlasting father.
Hezekiah the Prince of Peace.

Come on even a dummy won't take that from you! cheesy
Re: ************************ by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:40pm On May 18, 2023
sonmvayina:
The God of the Jews has nothing to do with jesus. He is a Roman creation...
After 2000+ years, their faith is still strong
If they turn around God will punish them...
It is idolatry...
Twelve tribes lost ten out and the region they stayed taken away by foreigners then their city and temple destroyed only for America to help them secure a place after Hitler has been killed.

Ọmọ if not for Jehovah's Witnesses in that place by now there will be no Jewish religion on that land because God has condemned them along with their temple.

The only reason why they're enjoying relative peace today is due to the presence of Jehovah's Witnesses in their country.

Their move now is against Jehovah's Witnesses not the churches of Christendom because they know the one and only group killing their stupid religion with prophecies found in God's word! smiley
Re: ************************ by MindHacker9009(op):
MaxInDHouse:
Sorry i made you use your second moniker!
If you cannot tell that MindHacker9009 is not Sonmvayina as our writing styles are different but we share the same views that your Jesus Christ is an invention of the Roman empire, then I'm not surprised that you cannot tell that you are following a FAKE messiah invented by the Roman empire.
Re: ************************ by MindHacker9009(op): 6:10pm On May 18, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Guy it's not about laws but achievements!

The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob promised to make peace reign among His worshipers {Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3} so that they will speak in agreement as One big and happy family of peace loving worshipers! Zephaniah 3:9

Ọmọ no matter the laws or rules it's worthless if this has not been achieved, it's like asking a man from Nigeria to tell you about laws in fact you will be overwhelmed with big grammars and if you ask a Nigerian to talk about science you will hear so much but compare to a Chinese man who can't speak much English yet they're producing the best in electronics and their laws is effective in their society.

So continue enjoying your talks about the laws of the Jews while we are enjoying the blessings God promised {Isaiah 65:13-14} soon the true God will destroy all religionists defaming His name with the invented jesus christ without achieving success in doing His will like the people called JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 65:15 smiley
Now you have changed 'Principles' to Laws.
What is the difference between a law and a principle? A law is a rule with the authority of government behind it. It carries clear consequences for those who violate it. A principle is a belief that guides behavior but has only moral authority behind it.

The Jews have listed the Principles of their Judaism publicly , so I will asked you again to list the principles of you organisation so that we can compare with that of Judaism to show that yours are no match to that of Judaism which God Almighty gave directly to the Jews.

If you don't have something to hide about your organisation then list your organisation's principles here for all to see.
Re: ************************ by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:16pm On May 18, 2023
An easy way out shey? grin

MindHacker9009:
If you cannot tell that MindHacker9009 is not Sonmvayina as our writing styles is different but we share the same views that your Jesus Christ is an invention of the Roman empire, then I'm not surprised that you cannot tell that you are following a FAKE messiah invented by the Roman empire.
Re: ************************ by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:27pm On May 18, 2023
At least you know what you want to believe but your problem is you can't present the benefits derived from what you're dying for!

Well if you want to learn it's not too late to ask for a free home Bible study with JWs i don't have to start listing rules once the benefits are here for everyone to see! wink

MindHacker9009:
Now you have changed 'Principles' to Laws.
What is the difference between a law and a principle? A law is a rule with the authority of government behind it. It carries clear consequences for those who violate it. A principle is a belief that guides behavior but has only moral authority behind it.
The Jews have listed the Principles of their Judaism publicly , so I will asked you again to list the principles of you organisation so that we can compare with that of Judaism to show that yours are no match to that of Judaism which God Almighty gave directly to the Jews.
If you don't have something to hide about your organisation then list your organisation's principles here for all to see.
Re: ************************ by MindHacker9009(op): 8:40pm On May 18, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
At least you know what you want to believe but MaxInDHouse problem is MaxInDHouse can't present the benefits derived from what MaxInDHouse dying for!

Well if you want to learn it's not too late to ask for a free home Bible study with JWs i don't have to start listing rules once the benefits are here for everyone to see! wink
Now you have changed 'Principles' to Rules.
What is the difference between a Rules and a principle? Rules are imposed from the outside and must be obeyed to avoid incurring some kind of penalty (a punishment, a fine, excommunication etc.) whereas principles are internal, and force you to do what you think it is right or correct.

The Jews have listed the Principles of their Judaism publicly , so I will asked you again to list the principles of you organisation so that we can compare with that of Judaism to show that yours are no match to that of Judaism which God Almighty gave directly to the Jews.

So I will put it to you again that if you don't have something to hide about your organisation then list your organisation's principles here for all to see.
Re: ************************ by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:50pm On May 18, 2023
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm, you're annoyed shey?

Ọmọ you need not be, benefits is all that matters when talking about faith! smiley

MindHacker9009:
Now you have changed 'Principles' to Rules.
What is the difference between a Rules and a principle? Rules are imposed from the outside and must be obeyed to avoid incurring some kind of penalty (a punishment, a fine, excommunication etc.) whereas principles are internal, and force you to do what you think it is right or correct.

The Jews have listed the Principles of their Judaism publicly , so I will asked you again to list the principles of you organisation so that we can compare with that of Judaism to show that yours are no match to that of Judaism which God Almighty gave directly to the Jews.

So I will put it to you again that if you don't have something to hide about your organisation then list your organisation's principles here for all to see.
Re: ************************ by sonmvayina(m): 9:16pm On May 18, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Hezekiah the wonderful counselor.
Hezekiah the mighty God.
Hezekiah the everlasting father.
Hezekiah the Prince of Peace.

Come on even a dummy won't take that from you! cheesy
Lol..those are all attributes of God...

It was God who called him that...

Read in context......if you do all these your delusion will vanish..
Re: ************************ by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:23pm On May 18, 2023
sonmvayina:
Lol..those are all attributes of God...

It was God who called him that...

Read in context......if you do all these your delusion will vanish..
The child will be called: Isaiah 9:6

I hear you Sir! grin
Re: ************************ by sonmvayina(m): 10:49pm On May 18, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
The child will be called: Isaiah 9:6

I hear you Sir! grin
The child has already been born when Isaiah was prophesying....
Hezekiah was already 6 years old....

It is not in future teams...

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