Klass99:


Lol 🤣. You just like some kind of pointless debates that induce a headache and leave you feeling like you've lost some brain cells after engaging with someone. His first post revealed a lot na, I am not even surprised he is a professing Christian.

Choco's thread and the thread that prompted this one has me wondering, what value do some if not most of these men actually bring to the table or marriage?

1. They slack off on their responsibility as the spiritual head of the home. Often leaving the grooming of their kids in God's ways, to their wives or Sunday school teachers. Most do not even hold once a week family devotions in their homes, neither do they lead by example.

2. They still slack off on their responsibility as providers, either insisting on a 50/50 sharing formula or completely slacking off and allowing their wives take up the responsibility of providing.

3. They are lacking in moral excellence and values, they love to play the filed while married, always trying hard to justify adultery, with some going as far as quoting scriptures to do so, like that Toks guy was doing here. And it's not just online I have experienced this, even offline.

I am not even trying to be funny or sarcastic with my question, it's an honest and rhetorical question. What value do they bring to the table? From where I stand it looks like theirs is just to be causing women heartache and palpitations, turning you into a fasting and prayer warrior over their poor choices/bad behaviour, causing anger, bitterness and resentment in hearts.

FairlyUSEDpussy:


Well.......I'm a Christian and I don't argue carnally.........."women pray for your husbands"is a commandment from God.........

I cud drop so many bible verse on that.......

Can u just pick one verse in the Bible that support husband pray for yo wives??

Klass99:


It is not as simple as choosing as well. I am all for doing your due diligence and choosing well when it comes to a spouse but change is a constant fact of life and people sometimes change.

Debrief's husband is a great example. Who would have thought that her godly, devoted, Christian boyfriend turned husband, whom she met and dated in school from their fellowship days (without sex) will turn into the monster he did?

I have been searching the forum for the husband's side of the story, so I can post the link to validate this point about people changing. It was an interesting narrative, the guy owned up to all he did and even more like fracturing three of her ribs. Gosh, I need to find that post.

I watch a lot of YouTube shorts and I love to dive into the comments section as well because YouTube has a more diverse community than NL. A woman shared that her husband of 17 years or so, left their marriage informing her he no longer loved her etc. It came out of the blue, it was unexpected and it really broke her heart. She spent time crying and praying that God would bring him back to her.

One day she heard The Lord clearly tell her - Mary he has to return to me first before he can come back to you. That gave her some relief and she quit her crying/praying, putting hubby in God's hands and pressing on with her life.

The point here is that - when a man's heart is turned away from God, he can and will cause you pain, without any fault on your part. You can choose well from the beginning but if or when their hearts start turning away from God there will be trouble. As shown in Debrief's and Mary's case.

I also think the turning away starts with things like gambling, the other user complained of on her thread.

Klass99:


I sincerely hope so. Because I recall reading the Final Quest by Rick Joyner and one of the things he said he noticed from his visions and time with Yeshua, was that The Lord's army is mostly made up of women and children.

Meaning - women and children are mostly the ones who are quick to believe, the ones standing in faith, holding on to their faith and persevering in the place of prayer, bible reading/studies, godly and good deeds etc.

That was my understanding and interpretation though. When I vet what he said and saw in heaven, against what I see here on earth in my world and my space......Rick Joyner wasn't off point at all. Note - he didn't say there were no men, but women and children were the bulk of His army.

Klass99:



3. They are lacking in moral excellence and values, they love to play the filed while married, always trying hard to justify adultery, with some going as far as quoting scriptures to do so, like that Toks guy was doing here. And it's not just online I have experienced this, even offline.

I am not even trying to be funny or sarcastic with my question, it's an honest and rhetorical question. What value do they bring to the table? From where I stand it looks like theirs is just to be causing women heartache and palpitations, turning you into a fasting and prayer warrior over their poor choices/bad behaviour, causing anger, bitterness and resentment in hearts.

cococandy:
■ Because the method of practicing religion in our society is strictly to keep women beneath and at the service of men. If you didn’t know anything, you’d think their version of God hates women There’s hardly anything relating to genuinely loving one another, bringing God’s love on to earth.. Making life better for everybody. You know all the good things you imagine when you think of Gods kingdom on earth? None of them is the actual goal of many religious people today. etc It’s all about how to police and control women. That’s why they are quick to whip out bible verses in response to situations like that but conveniently mute when the tables turn

RenegadeX:
which women are many in heaven. The same women that are easy to possess by demons easily influenced and brainwashed by worldly principles such as and the likes. Abi you are talking about the women found on Pluto

Kobojunkie:
You nailed it! Absolutely nothing of it concerns or is about God as it is instead primarily focused on glorifying the agendas of men. It is exalting men and their egos above all others!

cococandy:
■ So glaring I don’t even know why it’s up for discussion

Klass99:
■ It's so sad and the expectation that wives should continually tarry in prayers and fasting on their behalf is annoying.

Persephone1:
I don't hesitate to tell them maybe i will do it more often.

Although I must confess directives like "pray and fast " isn't mostly from a place of religion but to pepper them

True believers know how to sort out marital problems within themselves through the help of the HOLY SPIRIT who is the true guide. And all through years and centuries, God has always settled every form of problem that may arise among HIS CHILDREN.

Kobojunkie:
The same God that made clear that He does not answer the prayers/pleas/cries/worries of the unrighteous; The same God that in so many words made clear that every offering, prayer, gift, "good work", even praise addressed to Him by an unrighteous is an unacceptable abomination to Him? Na wa o!

RenegadeX:
Most of you discussing above should go and join the convent and leave men and the women that like them like that alone. Because any small thing your husband does in marriage will be seen as trying to prove superior and subdue you in the process.

Wife submit to your husbands
Husband love your wives

The problem with you ladies of now is that you want all the loving and pampering but when it comes to the point of fulfilling your end of the bargain which is “submitting” that where they start debate of men and women being equal and crazy feministic crap.

While courting the man you saw everything that you think you might not be comfortable with yet you proceeded. In marriage you still submit to him whether he gambles or gets drunk. Kneel down and cry that you don’t like what he is doing and tell him the repercussions of the habits calmly. He will stop

But as feminist and ladies carrying baggages, hurt and bitterness from your previous 20+ toxic relationships. You will transfer your vile and anger on the man. That is no submission. And we men hate when our ego is bruised with your vile tongues. That thing you are saying we shouldn’t do with insults and nagging instead of the calm approach we will triple down on it since una no won get sense.

No matter how beastly a man is a woman can have his remote control anytime if she wise but how many you are wise these days.

cococandy:
Off topic

RenegadeX:


Off course why won’t it be to you

CHoccolaTE:


Interesting, show me verses that instruct women to pray for their husbands.

RenegadeX:
Most of you discussing above should go and join the convent and leave men and the women that like them like that alone. Because any small thing your husband does in marriage will be seen as trying to prove superior and subdue you in the process.

Wife submit to your husbands
Husband love your wives

The problem with you ladies of now is that you want all the loving and pampering but when it comes to the point of fulfilling your end of the bargain which is “submitting” that where they start debate of men and women being equal and crazy feministic crap.

While courting the man you saw everything that you think you might not be comfortable with yet you proceeded. In marriage you still submit to him whether he gambles or gets drunk. Kneel down and cry that you don’t like what he is doing and tell him the repercussions of the habits calmly. He will stop

But as feminist and ladies carrying baggages, hurt and bitterness from your previous 20+ toxic relationships. You will transfer your vile and anger on the man. That is no submission. And we men hate when our ego is bruised with your vile tongues. That thing you are saying we shouldn’t do with insults and nagging instead of the calm approach we will triple down on it since una no won get sense.

No matter how beastly a man is a woman can have his remote control anytime if she wise but how many you are wise these days.

FairlyUSEDpussy:


Check this few verses first......
Proverbs 16:3. ...
Romans 8:9. ...
Colossians 3:2. ...
Philippians 4:8-9. ...
Philippians 4:5-7. ...
Romans 15:13. ...
Proverbs 2:6-8.

cococandy:


This is the second comment I’m seeing within the past hour talking about how women are easy to possess by demons etc. who came up with that? How was it measured? Smh

You people have refused to acknowledge how deeply deeply hateful you are towards women and how you use every opportunity you have create anti-women spaces within your religious communities.

Klass99:


I logged in just to laugh at this and laugh at you That guy's username alone indicates he is not someone to be taken seriously.

cococandy:


This is the second comment I’m seeing within the past hour talking about how women are easy to possess by demons etc. who came up with that? How was it measured? Smh

You people have refused to acknowledge how deeply deeply hateful you are towards women and how you use every opportunity you have create anti-women spaces within your religious communities.

Persephone1:


I don't hesitate to tell them maybe i will do it more often.

Although I must confess directives like "pray and fast " isn't mostly from a place of religion but to pepper them

True believers know how to sort out marital problems within themselves through the help of the HOLY SPIRIT who is the true guide. And all through years and centuries, God has always settled every form of problem that may arise among HIS CHILDREN.

Klass99:
Bukatyne I've found the link to the husband's story/narrative. I mean Debrief's hubby.

I'm feeling like an expert research pro right now . Clap for me and enjoy reading.

https://www.nairaland.com/959965/men-learn-mistakes#11063528

Below is an intriguing quote from 2012 by the husband. A quote I'm afraid is still a reality today