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Gas Revolution - For The Attention Of The Cynics by Beaf: 6:20pm On Sep 28, 2011
[size=14pt]For the Attention of the Cynics  [/size]     
Written by Maureen Chigbo     
Wednesday, 28 September 2011

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six months after the launching, the gas revolution which was conceived and nurtured by Diezani Alison-Madueke, minister of petroleum resources, is still very much on course and being pursued with zest. The project is to trigger industrial rebirth in the country through gas exploitation that would be based on the building of two world class petrochemical plants, two fertiliser plants, five fertiliser blending plants, a methanol plant and a Liquefied Petroleum Gas, LPG, distribution plant.  It is aimed at achieving significant improvement in power availability for all and reposition of Nigeria as the undisputed regional hub for gas-based industries that would engender an unprecedented growth in Nigeria’s gas supply from the current one billion cubic feet per day to more than 10 billion cubic feet per day by 2020.

The petrochemical and fertiliser projects, which would attract more than $10 billion foreign direct investment between 2012 and 2014, would also have a huge impact on the Nigerian economy. The minister had said that based on the planned investment in the 1.3 million tonnes per annum capacity petrochemical plant, more than 200,000 direct and indirect jobs would be created.  Other economic benefits of the gas to fertiliser project, according to Alison-Madueke, is that the fertiliser plants were strategically planned to impact positively by revolutionising the agricultural sector such that food would be more available and affordable to millions of Nigerians.

The most important aspect of the project is the explosion in job creation that would arise from the boost in agricultural productivity and the related agro and food processing industries that would emerge. More than 500,000 jobs are estimated from this agriculture-related agenda as well as an attendant increase in the nation’s GDP.

David Ige, group executive director in charge of Power and Gas, Nigerian National Petroleum Corporation, NNPC, said the corporation has made tremendous progress with the gas revolution project since March.  “The purpose of the gas revolution at the time when it was launched was to create awareness as to what we intended to do and the potential benefit that will arise. Ever since then, we have moved on straight into the implementation phase which is a quiet phase in terms of what the public can hear but we are pretty much working,” he said.

[b]When Newswatch called at his office in Abuja, September 16, to be prised with status report on the project, Ige explained that the first thing NNPC did was to consolidate “our investors particularly for the free trade zone.” This is because a critical requirement for the success of the gas revolution to happen is for the infrastructure in the free trade zone to be in place. “If you recall, the revolution at the time that it was announced was predicated on a 1.3 million tonne petrochemical plant and two fertiliser plants and a central processing facility in Koko. In the future, our plan is to replicate a similar thing in the central area around Port Harcourt, Onne axis.  And then in the future again, to now do it elsewhere.” He said that NNPC’s primary short-term arrangement was to work around Koko free trade zone development where the petrochemical plant would be built. “So far we have gone with the investors to do site survey at the location. We have also commissioned one of the investors, Petro Saudi, that will be working with the Delta State government and a couple of private investors to develop a huge infrastructure in Koko,” he said. Right now, the location for the project is 2,300 hectares complete mangrove forest. And so a lot of what has been going on is the initial baseline environmental impact assessment. Without that, NNPC and the investors cannot access the site. Also, the master plan of the free trade zone itself is being developed with NNPC working with the ports authority to identify the navigation route for the big ship that will be evacuating fertiliser. That’s why the corporation is dredging the infrastructure upgrade that would be required at the ports to support this. [/b]

Already, a consultancy firm in the United Kingdom is working on the requirements of the port infrastructure to support the investment. Also, establishing the port infrastructure is very important to enable investors in the big petrochemicals to move to financial closure. Without a ready and confirmed port infrastructure where they can evacuate their product and a navigation route that will be navigable for the big ship that will be coming, the financial closure will not be possible thus hindering the project.  “This is why our efforts initially are focussed on those two things – getting the ports and the shipping route sorted out; to identify all that needs to be done and the investors are going to start on that. And also to sort out the free trade zone, the location itself so that the access is cleared and the drainage is done, roads are done and the utilities like power and so on are in place following which other people can come and do their fertiliser and so on,” Ige said.

From all indication, the ministry of petroleum resources and NNPC are at the master plan stage of the gas revolution which would be completed in six months.  The master plan for the 2300 hectare site will map out the location for the petrochemical plant, fertiliser plant, the central processing facility, a jetty, and the LNG plant.  It’s just like a floor plan. With the petrochemical, NNPC needs to know the type of equipment they are bringing in, some of which will be tall towers and the direction of the wind to help the planners decide how to place them on site.  “For example, if the steam from the power plant is going to be used by the fertiliser plant you need to locate all of those things. So the plan for all of that is being developed,” he said.

It is not only NNPC that is working hard on of the gas revolution project.  The investors, who are going to be working on the free trade zones who are going to be like the landlord creating the infrastructure, and working on the port zone are also  doing their own assessment now. Basically, what they are doing now is to complete their own master plan and get their own environment impact assessment. The expectation is that from January/February, NNPC should be in a position to have access to begin site clearing and early site works. Ige said. “Our critical milestone is site access and commencement of early works by January. This will move into commencement of infrastructure development within the free trade zone by April, and then begin fertiliser blending plants by July. By the end of the year, NNPC will begin full construction of the fertiliser blending plant itself.

The benefit of all these activities is that employment will be created. From January 2012, about 1000 jobs would be created when site clearing starts. “It is a huge forest there and efforts to clear all of that is going to employ well over a 1000 people. And from that period you will see the growth in jobs because more people will be on site because as you start to clear you move into infrastructure development and as that one is finishing, the fertiliser investors will start their own and then the petrochemical. That’s where we are right now in terms of schedule,” he said.

This notwithstanding, work on the petrochemical side is also progressing as the NNPC officials are doing the economic analysis. They are also going to Saudi Arabia in two weeks time. On the fertiliser side, the investors have tendered for engineering, procurement and construction, EPC, contracts. “The fertiliser guys in India, have tendered for the EPC contracts and people are expected to submit their bids by the end of October or so,” Levi Ajuonuma, group general manager, Group Public Affairs Division, NNPC, said.

Also the fertiliser plant investors have been awarded the contracts to do soil evaluation.  But the problem they have now is that they cannot go on site until the site is accessible. They have to test the soil before they can bring in heavy equipment. “As at last week, the fertiliser plant investors were here in Nigeria with their civil engineer consultants to go to site and get soil sample. They are also trying to carry on with the blending plant and do a market survey to know the exact location that this blending plant should be, a place close to the major agricultural zones where their priorities should be and also do market assessment, Ige said.

Reacting to the perception that work slowed down after the gas revolution was launched, Ajuonuma said: “Not at all. We are working. We are getting to a point when it is not talk, talk anymore. We have rolled up our sleeves and getting down to brass tacks.” He, however, said that the period the project is in now is that time when you are doing something and nobody is seeing anything and then all of a sudden, you will see.

Ige agreed: “Right now many things have to be done. For you to see anything concrete, it has to be on site. But we cannot start anything on site until we finish the environmental impact assessment. And that requires two seasons to do – wet and dry seasons – you need that from the Ministry of Environment. It is the statutory requirement.”

According to NNPC, if site is to be cleared, it will have to assess the environmental impact. These are the things that are being done now quietly which the public cannot see but they are statutory work that has to be done. Without that, NNPC cannot cut one tree down in that forest. “So we are accelerating all of those so that by the end of the year once that is concluded and we have our environmental permit from the Ministry of Environment, we now start site access and site clearing. That’s why our site clearing has to wait until around January. But in the meantime work is going on,” Ige said.

http://www.newswatchngr.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3530&Itemid=1
Re: Gas Revolution - For The Attention Of The Cynics by Beaf: 6:35pm On Sep 28, 2011
Nigeria is moving, so many exciting things are happening quietly. The Gas Revolution is our first step in the diversification of our economy from oil drilling to an end to end petrochemical based one. The impact is that our economic output from petrochemicals will by 7 times! Nice!

Delta state is very lucky to be benefiting directly from the creation of Koko Free Trade Zone, which will be the not just the hub of the Gas Revolution, but also the biggest ever industrial park in the whole of Africa. Already $16billion worth of investments have been secured (roughly 60% of the entire 2011 Nigerian budget cool), the employment benefits will begin to be felt from November this year, slowly at first, then accelerating to blinding heights.

Lets give it to GEJ and Allison Madueke.
Re: Gas Revolution - For The Attention Of The Cynics by Nobody: 6:56pm On Sep 28, 2011
bookmarked so we can laugh next year

let me call up beafs quiet revolution ,100 day whirlwind, 6000mw threads from last year cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Gas Revolution - For The Attention Of The Cynics by Beaf: 7:05pm On Sep 28, 2011
oyb:

bookmarked so we can laugh next year

let me call up beafs quiet revolution ,100 day whirlwind, 6000mw threads from last year cheesy cheesy cheesy

You will be crying instead, cos bad bele na killa! Lol!
January 2012 ain't far.
Re: Gas Revolution - For The Attention Of The Cynics by Nobody: 7:12pm On Sep 28, 2011
for where do we really need to recount all your aesops fables of messiah gej?

what became of the 'audit' of nnpc you were screaming to the rooftops? cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

abegi cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Gas Revolution - For The Attention Of The Cynics by Beaf: 7:37pm On Sep 28, 2011
If you weren't getting your "news" from the market place, you would realise that the audit of NNPC has led to massive changes in the way it carries out business.
That audit has led to the metering oil pumps at the point of lifting and moving aggressively to meter oil wells. In the past, Rilwanu Lukman or some other mallam would crawl on their belly to Shell to ask how much oil Nigeria had drilled for the day; Shell would pass a brown envelope under the table and give any figure, then tell the official where to go for bunkering, Shell would get their cut from drilling free oil and the Nigerian fool would get obscenely rich from the mortgaging of the country.
The NNPC audit has cut that corrupt loop out and made many like you very angry.
Re: Gas Revolution - For The Attention Of The Cynics by Fhemmmy: 7:38pm On Sep 28, 2011
Promise with nothing to follow . . . .Hope this would be the start of a new nation, we want a new Nigeria too . . .so we will be following the thread
Re: Gas Revolution - For The Attention Of The Cynics by Beaf: 8:02pm On Sep 28, 2011
Fhemmmy:

Promise with nothing to follow . . . .Hope this would be the start of a new nation, we want a new Nigeria too . . .so we will be following the thread

I really implore you to do so and keep your ear to the ground. There is so much quietly going on in the country that will catapult us way beyond where we are today.
The Gas Revolution is taking off in Delta state, but will extend to Rivers, Bayelsa and Lagos in phases. We urgently need to diversify away from oil and the process has thankfully kicked off.
Re: Gas Revolution - For The Attention Of The Cynics by Nobody: 8:03pm On Sep 28, 2011
Beaf:

If you weren't getting your "news" from the market place, you would realise that the audit of NNPC has led to massive changes in the way it carries out business.
That audit has led to the metering oil pumps at the point of lifting and moving aggressively to meter oil wells. In the past, Rilwanu Lukman or some other mallam would crawl on their belly to Shell to ask how much oil Nigeria had drilled for the day; Shell would pass a brown envelope under the table and give any figure, then tell the official where to go for bunkering, Shell would get their cut from drilling free oil and the Nigerian fool would get obscenely rich from the mortgaging of the country.
The NNPC audit has cut that corrupt loop out and made many like you very angry.

the usual bs from the liar in chief - what did the audit cut out other than an honest professional - remi babalola?

lookit this lying gejing . . .have yopu forgotten that the man said nnpc was bankrupt and your oga said otherwise? anyway we are watching - nobe adminstration of announcement?

see as they declined to name consultancy firm, partners etal, so that their yansh will not be opened hyundai heavy style.

abeeegi!!!

can we be sure this is not another pipe factory blown up  into a shipyard  cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Gas Revolution - For The Attention Of The Cynics by Nobody: 8:05pm On Sep 28, 2011
Beaf:

I really implore you to do so and keep your ear to the ground. There is so much quietly going on in the country that will catapult us way beyond where we are today.
The Gas Revolution is taking off in Delta state, but will extend to Rivers, Bayelsa and Lagos in phases. We urgently need to diversify away from oil and the process has thankfully kicked off.

yaaaawwwwwn

we don hear all this bs before

let your govt name the investors if they get liver
Re: Gas Revolution - For The Attention Of The Cynics by Beaf: 8:08pm On Sep 28, 2011
^
Don't worry, wait and be very disappointed as more loop holes are blocked. We know why your type is frothing with anger. Lol!
Nigeria will progress no matter how hard you will it to fail.

Sir, if only you weren't getting "news" from the village square, you would have known the investors. The list is public news, if you ask nicely, I'll paste it here. grin
Re: Gas Revolution - For The Attention Of The Cynics by Nobody: 8:13pm On Sep 28, 2011
Beaf:

^
Don't worry, wait and be very disappointed as more loop holes are blocked. We know why your type is frothing with anger. Lol!
Nigeria will progress no matter how hard you will it to fail.

Sir, if only you weren't getting "news" from the village square, you would have known the investors. The list is public news, if you ask nicely, I'll paste it here. grin

please beaf tell us the investors 

there i asked nicely - oya lets see who it is that is investing - cheesy cheesy
Re: Gas Revolution - For The Attention Of The Cynics by Nobody: 10:29pm On Sep 28, 2011
2 hours later and no reply from beaf
should i be surprised? tongue
Re: Gas Revolution - For The Attention Of The Cynics by Beaf: 12:13am On Sep 29, 2011
oyb:

2 hours later and no reply from beaf
should i be surprised?  tongue

Lol! I really like manipulating you and toying with your puny mind! You're like a puppy, if I say, jump, you jump very high indeed!
You serve me quite well on NL.
Common, ask nicely for something thats public knowledge, lets exercise your angry but willing ignorance a lil bit more. Its bloody tragic and damn entertaining! grin grin
Re: Gas Revolution - For The Attention Of The Cynics by Beaf: 7:21am On Sep 29, 2011
Where is that oyb that loves darkness and prays for lack of progress like a winsh?
Re: Gas Revolution - For The Attention Of The Cynics by Rhino4dm: 7:38am On Sep 29, 2011
Beaf stop this "dogon turanci" and tell me how i and jobless people alike can get real job from this wonderful development.
Thanks
Re: Gas Revolution - For The Attention Of The Cynics by Beaf: 8:03am On Sep 29, 2011
Rhino.4dm:

Beaf stop this "dogon turanci" and tell me how i and jobless people alike can get real job from this wonderful development.
                                              Thanks

I really can't tell you how to make money from the project, there's everything from clearing the bush to serious technical work and various forms of contracting; but this is the low down (punch has the most detailed version, but their site is currently down):

[size=14pt]Nigeria: NNPC, Partners Commence U.S.$16 Billion Petrochemical Plant Survey[/size]
Juliet Alohan
27 July 2011

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Efforts to actualise President Goodluck Jonathan's gas revolution agenda were made this week when a team of experts and foreign investors arrived Koko in Warri North local government area of Delta State to commence preliminary site inspection of the planned petrochemical plant and gas processing facilities envisaged to be Africa's largest industrial complex.

The group, which was led by the group executive director, gas and power of the Nigerian National Petroleum Corporation (NNPC), Dr. David Ige, includes experts from Xenel of Saudi Arabia, Nagarjuna of India, Chevron Nigeria Limited, Sahara Energy, Nigerian Ports Plc and officials of the Delta State government.

The massive undertaking, which is projected to gulp about $16 billion investment, entails the construction of 1.3million tonne per annum Polypropylene and Polyethylene plant to be built by Xenel in concert with NNPC and other investors.

Nagarjuna will construct three fertiliser plants each with capacity of 1.3 million tonnes per annum all to be located within the Koko Free Trade Zone. The India leading agro processing company will also build blending plants across the country including Delta State to ensure the blending of fertilisers to align with the soil requirements across the various agro zones in Nigeria.

The approach is expected to lead to improved yield which in turn will galvanise numerous agro and food processing industries around the locality of the blending plants, creating industrialisation in otherwise rural areas. Already the Chevron/NNPC JV is programmed to develop the gas to supply the fertiliser plants.

A statement yesterday by the NNPC spokesman, Dr. Levi Ajuonuma, explained that the Koko petrochemical plant and fertilizer facilities will be supported by a massive Central Processing Facility (CPF), capable of processing one billion cubic feet of gas per day. This CPF alongside the others will be the brain-box for the whole industrialisation agenda.

"At these CPFs, wet gas from the wells will be gathered and processed, producing the dry gas and natural gas liquids that will be feedstock for the fertiliser, power and petrochemicals plants," the statement said.

Speaking at the end of the preliminary aerial survey of the entire Koko Free Trade Zone, Dr. Ige said that the multibillion dollar CPF will be executed by some indigenous companies which include Oando and Sahara Energy alongside Shell, Chevron and the NNPC.

"This is the beginning of a massive industrial revolution not only for Delta state but the entire nation anchored on petrochemicals. Our expectations going forward is that over the next few weeks, NNPC in concert with the state government and the investors will move into top gear ahead of the planned engineering works in the months and years ahead," Ige said.

Delta State Governor, Dr. Emmanuel Uduaghan, while expressing delight with the activation of the project, called on the federal government to accelerate the planned dredging of the Koko Port waterways to allow for the entrance of heavy vessels in good time for the takeoff of the project.

He, however, hinted that the State may be compelled to take up the dredging project on behalf of the federal government to fast-track the planned construction of the petrochemical plant, describing the Koko dream as a project capable of transforming the economic landscape of not only Delta state but the entire nation.

Matouq Jannah, head of the Xenel delegation and Kovvuri Dharudu, Vice President Commercial, Nagarjuna Fertilisers and Chemical Ltd, both expressed their companies' readiness and commitment to see the project to a fruitful conclusion in line with the dreams and aspirations of the Nigerian government.

http://allafrica.com/stories/printable/201107280466.html
Re: Gas Revolution - For The Attention Of The Cynics by OmoTier1(m): 8:13am On Sep 29, 2011
As usual, beaf is displaying his cowardice in market place.

Beaf, not all nigerians are innately stupid like you have shown time and time again!

Nigerians are tired of talk talk, enough is enough. Your GEJ should get his hand dirty in the mud and stop playing in the pool water!

I know your brother in Delta is a 'prototype' governor but I do not think Nigeria should be saddled with a 'prototype' President!

FYI, neither Amaechi nor Fashola shows us rogue prototypes, rather they give thier respective citizenries things that improve lives! I am yet to see one from your GEJ except talk talk talk!

How come it is now economic cost analysis is being done? What did your GEJ do with the nearly 13months He was acting President/President?

If cost analysis is going to take 6months, then expect this project not be ready by 2015!
Re: Gas Revolution - For The Attention Of The Cynics by Rhino4dm: 8:38am On Sep 29, 2011
Wow! This is exactly what my company does . . .I always feel pain whenever i see quacks taking over what we can do even better due to politics. (Typical NLander will say Rhino again).

I vow to pull out something from this development. Abuja here i come oooh! But Beaf, how about the political aspects of the "connection" you know what i mean?? Joke aside. If truely there is a sincerity on your part to see this project successful and not for your political purpose.
Re: Gas Revolution - For The Attention Of The Cynics by Bliss4Lyfe(f): 9:29am On Sep 29, 2011
Very good strategic route to industrialise Nigeria but exactly how do they intend to execute such project successfully with out handing over ownership of industries to Foreign Direct Investors or Multinational Companies?

The Nigerian Stock Exchange would fair better with Nigerian Stakeholders in such industry. Development is never one way but cumulative and diverse. It is a bit like synchronise swimming with all industries and players coming in line.
Re: Gas Revolution - For The Attention Of The Cynics by Beaf: 9:40am On Sep 29, 2011
Rhino.4dm:

Wow! This is exactly what my company does . . .I always feel pain whenever i see quacks taking over what we can do even better due to politics. (Typical NLander will say Rhino again).

I vow to pull out something from this development. Abuja here i come oooh! But Beaf, how about the political aspects of the "connection" you know what i mean?? Joke aside. If truely there is a sincerity on your part to see this project successful and not for your political purpose.

Lol! I no get connection o!
Go to Delta and get close to the govt, they are already looking to start dredging the place even before the FG puts the first boat there. Clearing work is also starting in January, that means there'll be lots of surveying and testing in a couple of months. Look for an Itsekiri or Urhobo guy to take you close to Uduaghan.
Re: Gas Revolution - For The Attention Of The Cynics by Rhino4dm: 10:01am On Sep 29, 2011
No probs. . .I hope the PDP wont politicize this wonderful project as usual. In reality, this what Nigerians should be involved in.

How do you think Local content law shall be protected in this project?. As, it is usual norm to see quacks flooding in from India and far east to take up what the community residents can handle perfectly.?

Imagine the last place i was contracting to had fulkerniser, time keepers, chefs, logistics officers, cleaners working as experterates. I was very sad when isee the jobless people in the comminuty collecting "marching ground" when their jobs has been taking up by quacks.
Re: Gas Revolution - For The Attention Of The Cynics by Rhino4dm: 10:12am On Sep 29, 2011
In places like Angola, you cant stay more than three years as experterates while in Naija
i know alot of white guys that have been here since the era of military. Funny, when i travel with one french dude to paris last year, the ediot was speaking pure "waffi" and was bragging on the number of years he is working here. Another very sad aspect is, majority of them are working with visiting visa. . .and paying tax back home

Imagine a fulkernize paid 5000 euros/month in a comminuty with thousands of qualified fulkerzers Very sad! You as, a technical guy is not seeing what a "common" fulkernizer is recieving in a month.

What more? Even the so-called experterate still employ the services of local guys to do the jobs for them at very meager amount.
Re: Gas Revolution - For The Attention Of The Cynics by Rhino4dm: 10:26am On Sep 29, 2011
check this out. . .I applied for a subcontracting job in UK via my company. After winning the job, the UK immigration office replied the company giving me the job to look for local substitutes for three months, before they can allow my company access to the documents/permits to bring in my men? Can you believe this?? That day was the most sorrowful day of my life. I felt like going to airport with AK 47 and shoot any stuupid experterate coming here.

Well, thats gone and i have moved on and concluded that our government can not help its citizens . The terrain is rough for us here, but you can still survive when you are good technically.
Re: Gas Revolution - For The Attention Of The Cynics by Beaf1: 3:36pm On Sep 29, 2011
This news is FAKE and the OP himself is FAKE!
Re: Gas Revolution - For The Attention Of The Cynics by Demdem(m): 3:47pm On Sep 29, 2011
Honestly i want this to work. Not only will it empower me the more but also millions also.
However, NNPC !!!!!! That place stinks.
Nigerian Gas, here i come.
Re: Gas Revolution - For The Attention Of The Cynics by Demdem(m): 3:57pm On Sep 29, 2011
Beaf:

Nigeria is moving, so many exciting things are happening quietly. The Gas Revolution is our first step in the diversification of our economy from oil drilling to an end to end petrochemical based one. The impact is that our economic output from petrochemicals will by 7 times! Nice!

Delta state is very lucky to be benefiting directly from the creation of Koko Free Trade Zone, which will be the not just the hub of the Gas Revolution, but also the biggest ever industrial park in the whole of Africa. Already $16billion worth of investments have been secured (roughly 60% of the entire 2011 Nigerian budget cool), the employment benefits will begin to be felt from November this year, slowly at first, then accelerating to blinding heights.

Lets give it to GEJ angry angry angry and Allison Madueke.

That one is DUMB. wetin he know?
Re: Gas Revolution - For The Attention Of The Cynics by Beaf: 12:49am On Sep 30, 2011
^
Fool.

Rhino.4dm:

In places like Angola, you cant stay more than three years as experterates while in Naija
i know alot of white guys that have been here since the era of military. Funny, when i travel with one french dude to paris last year, the ediot was speaking pure "waffi" and was bragging on the number of years he is working here. Another very sad aspect is, majority of them are working with visiting visa. . .and paying tax back home

Imagine a fulkernize paid 5000 euros/month in a comminuty with thousands of qualified fulkerzers Very sad! You as, a technical guy is not seeing what a "common" fulkernizer is recieving in a month.

What more? Even the so-called experterate still employ the services of local guys to do the jobs for them at very meager amount.

Very true. But we need to keep standing up for ourselves and strengthening initiatives like the local content law; thats the way we can empower ourselves, stop foreigners who are mere technicians from phucking Nigerian experts through the ear. We must sieze hold of the jobs in our own country.
In the petroleum sector, local content has taken off quite well. There are a few fits and hiccups still, but the direction is generally positive; Nigerians need to arm themselves with detailed knowledge of how it operates on the one hand and pick up the necessary weapons from the FOI with the other.

We should all have our tools loaded, cocked and ready; both to fight for our rights and make dosh. cool
Re: Gas Revolution - For The Attention Of The Cynics by Demdem(m): 1:54pm On Sep 30, 2011
Beaf:

Fool.

That The Retardeen is DUMB is an undisputed Fact Accursed. All his comments suggest such. Check my signature for one of such cool

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