u igbos make mouth and boost a lot and have nothing to do at the ned..goosh...keyboard warrior...collective interest indeed!

Penguin2:
Soludo will be taught a bitter lesson.

Soludo will be made to understand that he’s a small boy in Igboland.

That he made the greatest mistake of his entire existence the day he chose to go against the collective interest of Ndigbo.

The battle line is drawn. Let’s see how far he can go in this fight.

Onye ala!

Please you guys should turn a new leaf now and learn politics from south west, why attacking everybody that not supporting lpob ideology. You people should wise up for how long would you people due on this barbaric policy?

Soludo will be made to understand that he’s a small boy in Igboland.

That he made the greatest mistake of his entire existence the day he chose to go against the collective interest of Ndigbo.

The battle line is drawn. Let’s see how far he can go in this fight.

Onye ala![/quote]

fergie001:

You are been too emotional.
What is the collective interests of Ndigbo?

How well have you held our Govs accountable?

Does someone not have the rights to vote whomever he/she thinks is best for the Country?

As for this case, it is DEAD as DODO and will not stand in anyway.

The reasons are simple:
1. This case talks about the interpretation of the Supreme Court corrected Judgement of March 24, 2023.

2. The FCT High Court suit was filed by Alh Rabiu Mustapha
& Kamaru Ogidan Lateef v. Victor Oye & INEC. APGA was not a Party to the suit and hence not bound by the Judgement.

3. This case itself has been decided by 2 Federal High Courts (in Abuja & Awka): In both judgements, the Courts affirmed Oye.

4. The Appeal Court also affirmed the judgement of the Abuja FHC.

5. Not to be caught off guard, APGA still obtained a judgement from the Anambra High Court to hold Congresses for the forthcoming Convention.

6. The subject of all these litigations, be it Oye or Edozie, were sworn-in on May 31, 2019; their 4-year tenure had expired so that invariably means no Court can do anything wrt that.

So Soludo’s actions and utterances during the election are justified?

They can be excused in the name of freedom of choice in a democracy?

chiozor:
u igbos make mouth and boost a lot and have nothing to do at the ned..goosh...keyboard warrior...collective interest indeed!

Really?

You really think we do nothing?

The last and the most recent idiot who toed Soludo’s line is Chimaroke Nnamani. We warned him to retrace his steps but you guys cheered him on and assured him we can do nothing. Where is he today?

Now, you guys have chosen Soludo as the next person you are sending into political oblivion by cheering him on while he wallows in the path of destruction. And once again, you people are assuring him we can do nothing. We will see how that goes.

Penguin2:
Soludo will be taught a bitter lesson.

Soludo will be made to understand that he’s a small boy in Igboland.

That he made the greatest mistake of his entire existence the day he chose to go against the collective interest of Ndigbo.

The battle line is drawn. Let’s see how far he can go in this fight.

Onye ala!

if we say obi na igbo project now... You'll start shouting.... Soludo told u people d truth and the truth they say is bitter.... U don't ride to aso rock on nzogbu nzogbu politics

Does this mean soludo's candidacy is now invalid or what?

Metrix147:

Source: https://abntv.com.ng/news/court-sacks-ezeokenwa-as-apga-chairman-voids-victor-oyes-actions-udensi-edozie-njoku-others-jubilate/

PRESS RELEASE:

The judgment delivered on 6th June, 2023 in a suit filed by one Otunba Camaru Lateef Ogidan and Rubiu Mustapha Vs.Chief Victor Ike Oye and INEC has no effect whatsoever on the wards, Local Governments and States congresses as well as the National Convention of APGA held on 31st May, 2023 that saw the emergence of the Barr Sly Ezeokenwa led National Working Committee of APGA.

The judgment delivered by Hon.Justice M.A Madugu does not affect APGA congreses and National Convention for the following reasons:

1. APGA was not made a party to the suit and there was no order made against APGA from conducting her already held Congresses and National Convention.

2. APGA, not being a Party in the suit, is not bound by the judgment.

3.The Court did not pronounce Edozie Njoku as the National Chairman of APGA.

4. The Court only held that the judgment of the Supreme Court delivered on 14/10/2021 must be obeyed by the parties.

5. The Court pronounced that the Supreme Court Judgment of 14/10/2021 and the correction of the accidental slip by the Supreme Court is to the effect that parties are to maintain status quo before the filing of the suit at Jigawa.

6. The Court did not say what the status quo was.The court only said that the parties know what the status quo was and that he will say no more.

7. The judgment of the Court of Appeal Kano division delivered on 10th August, 2021 that was affirmed by the Supreme Court has decided what the status quo was before the filing of the suit at Jigawa to wit:

"The 2nd appellant (Chief Victor Ike Oye) was elected into office at the convention of the party which held on 31 May, 2019. Such election has been validated by the judgment of the Anambra State High Court referred to Above. There is no evidence that such judgment has been set aside on appeal or by the Court that delivered it. Consequently, it is clear that as at the time the suit leading to this appeal was initiated in Jigawa State High Court,the 2nd appellant (Chief Victor Ike Oye) was the validly elected Chairman of the 1st Appellant (APGA)" per Hon Justice Haruna Simon Tsammani JCA at page 80 of the judgment

The above quoted extract of the Court of Appeal judgment affirmed by the Supreme Court has clearly resolved what the status quo before Jigawa was.

8.The court only said that any action taken by Chief Victor Ike Oye in contravention of judgment of court is null and void.

9.The Court did not make any pronouncement that Chief Victor Ike Oye contravened the judgment of the Supreme Court.

10. That the Court of Appeal on 2nd June, 2023 putting into consideration the ruling of the Supreme Court on the correction of the slip in the judgment of the Supreme Court affirmed the Judgment and decisions of Hon. Justice James Kolawole Omotosho delivered on 28/3/2023 which authenticated Dr Victor Ike Oye as the National Chairman of APGA authorized by Law to nominate and forward the names of APGA candidates to INEC.

11. The judgment of the Court of Appeal of 2nd June, 2023, affirming Justice James Kolawole Omotosho's judgment is superior to that of the FCT High Court delivered by Hon.Justice M.A Madugu.

12. INEC by law is bound to obey the judgment of a superior court and not that of an inferior court.

13. The judgments of the Supreme Court, Court of Appeal on the correction of the slip and National Chairmanship of APGA all favours Dr Victor Ike Oye.

14. The Court then made an Order restraining INEC from recognizing Chief Victor Ike Oye as the National Chairman of APGA.(Which is synonymous to the court ordering former president Muhammadu Buhari just like Oye who has since served out his tenure from parading himself as the President of Nigeria and for Nigerians or INEC to stop recognizing Buhari as their President).

We agree that parties are bound to obey the judgment of the Supreme Court and that any action done in contravention of the judgment of the Supreme Court is a nullity.

15. The question at this point is was there any violation of the judgment of the Supreme Court by Chief Victor Ike Oye? The answer is a capital NO. The court did not make that finding that Chief Victor Ike Oye contravened the judgment of the Supreme Court.

16. It is also of no moment that the court had restrained Chief Victor Ike Oye from parading himself as the National Chairman of APGA when he has since successfully completed his tenure and handed over the reins of leadership of APGA to Barr Sly Ezeokenwa and other elected members of his National Working Committee.

17. If the order restraining Chief Victor Ike Oye from parading himself as APGA National Chairman and for INEC not to recognize Oye as National Chairman of APGA is to be celebrated, it should be by the Barr Sly Ezeokenwa led National Working Committee of APGA who took over from Chief Victor Ike Oye.

18. The Wards, Local Governments, States Congresses and the National Convention of APGA was validly conducted and held in obidience to the Supreme Court Judgment and the judgment of Hon Justice H.O OZOH of the Anambra State High Court which compelled and mandated Chief Victor Ike Oye as the National Chairman of APGA to conduct the Congresses and National Convention of APGA before the expiration of his tenure on 31st of May, 2023.

19. The Judgment delivered by Justice Madugu has not in anyway conferred any validity whatsoever on the plaintiffs and the Edozie Njoku group.

20. Barr Sly Ezeokenwa and members of his National Working Committee elected at the National Convention of APGA held on 31st of May, 2023 remain the validly elected National executives of APGA.

We therefor call on all our members and supporters to ignore the propaganda and mischief being peddled by the Edozie Njoku group in relation to the judgment delivered by Hon.Justice M.A . Madugu of the FCT High Court Bwari Abuja.


Victor Agunzi Esq,
National Legal Adviser, APGA

Nigerian politicians.
It's bad for a small party particularly to be directionless. They should sit down and put their house in order.

Penguin2:
Soludo will be taught a bitter lesson.

Soludo will be made to understand that he’s a small boy in Igboland.

That he made the greatest mistake of his entire existence the day he chose to go against the collective interest of Ndigbo.

The battle line is drawn. Let’s see how far he can go in this fight.

Onye ala!

You must be a loser. APGA had leadership problem throughout Obi's tenure. This case will still be won by soludo. You said worse about Obiano and he won 21/21 and finished his tenure in peace. Soludo is doing well and will win again. Only you Obi asslickers will be taught a lesson of political discipline.

Penguin2:


So Soludo’s actions and utterances during the election are justified?

They can be excused in the name of freedom of choice in a democracy?

Do you know what an election is?

Obi was campaigning for LP Candidates in the Anambra Assembly, so Soludo should fold his hands and watch?

You want Soludo to have an Assembly with majority opposition party?

You want Soludo to keep quiet when Valentine Ozigbo the man he defeated is warming up to challenge him with more firepower?

Why did you not tell Adeleke to support Tinubu because Osun is his home?

Adeleke cleared all HoRs, Senate, House of Assembly (bar 1) for PDP and ensured Tinubu lost in his ancestral Osun.

Tell me the crime Soludo committed? During Obi's entrance into the Presidential race, he was given the Gov's Office to make that announcement.

You are making it an Ndigbo thing too much and you are casting a bad light on us. Atiku lost in Yobe, Tinubu lost in Osun.... Nobody has been attacking the Govs.

Obi himself campaigned for APGA Candidates against a PDP-dominated Assembly in 2011, so what exactly is Soludo's offence?

Victor Oye is my name.
Same name, same surname.
Lolz

RecentHistory:
Lmaooo

, them don nack una pako for head

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you should focus on how to salvage your wretched situation we are not in the same level

Shut up...you cannot do anything but to type in your hidden location...you have just 1 vote..the worst thiong you will do is to butcher your kinsman and use for your egwusi soup...

Penguin2:


Really?

You really think we do nothing?

The last and the most recent idiot who toed Soludo’s line is Chimaroke Nnamani. We warned him to retrace his steps but you guys cheered him on and assured him we can do nothing. Where is he today?

Now, you guys have chosen Soludo as the next person you are sending into political oblivion by cheering him on while he wallows in the path of destruction. And once again, you people are assuring him we can do nothing. We will see how that goes.

fergie001:
Do you know what an election is?

Obi was campaigning for LP Candidates in the Anambra Assembly, so Soludo should fold his hands and watch?

You want Soludo to have an Assembly with majority opposition party?

You want Soludo to keep quiet when Valentine Ozigbo the man he defeated is warming up to challenge him with more firepower?

Why did you not tell Adeleke to support Tinubu because Osun is his home?

Adeleke cleared all HoRs, Senate, House of Assembly (bar 1) for PDP and ensured Tinubu lost in his ancestral Osun.

Tell me the crime Soludo committed? During Obi's entrance into the Presidential race, he was given the Gov's Office to make that announcement.

You are making it an Ndigbo thing too much and you are casting a bad light on us. Atiku lost in Yobe, Tinubu lost in Osun.... Nobody has been attacking the Govs.

Obi himself campaigned for APGA Candidates against a PDP-dominated Assembly in 2011, so what exactly is Soludo's offence?

How many open letters did Adeleke write to Tinubu with barrage of accusations?

How many letters did Adamawa governor write to Atiku with barrage of accusations?

You mentioned Atiku losing Yobe, how many letters did Mai Mala Buni write against Atiku with barrage of accusations?

Since 1999, Anambra people have always voted in same direction with the rest of the Southeast at the presidential election. But when it comes to State level election, they will vote APGA.

All Soludo needed to do was keep quiet. Nobody says he must support Obi. I’m not saying that either. All we are saying is that he should have just kept his opposition to Obi’s ambition to himself and his APGA family, and you would have seen Anambra people vote for LP at the presidential election and do “Nkea Bu Nke Anyi” on the State Level election. Anambra people went against him even at state level because of his utterances against Obi.

Ask yourself, why didn’t Umahi or Uzodimma write such letter to Obi since they are in different political parties and had a more viable presidential candidate they were supporting? Why did they read the room and kept quiet?

But Soludo felt he’s the most intelligent Igbo man alive and can write letters to ridicule the only Igbo man that has come closest to the presidency since Aguiyi Ironsi and you say there’s nothing wrong in his actions?

chiozor:
Shut up...you cannot do anything but to type in your hidden location...you have just 1 vote..the worst thiong you will do is to butcher your kinsman and use for your egwusi soup...

Naaah!

We don’t butcher our people.

Or do we look like we open hotels only to hack our guests to death for rituals in the middle of the night?

And how many people were butchered in Enugu before Chimaroke was summarily disgraced?

Remember that in the election that brought Soludo, you people wanted to install Andy Uba by hook or by crook. You deployed nefarious elements and made Anambra a killing field. But we stood our ground and told you that Soludo will win but you doubted us and said you have bought the deputy governor and PDP senators and that they will deliver for APC. Andy Uba and APC lost woefully and we delivered Soludo.

Now, I’m telling you authoritatively, that the same solidarity we used in delivering Soludo is the same solidarity we will use to boot him out.

Let’s wait and see how much of a help you lots will be to him from Ogbomoso and Ile-Ife when the time comes.

Penguin2:
How many open letters did Adeleke write to Tinubu with barrage of accusations?

How many letters did Adamawa governor write to Atiku with barrage of accusations?

You mentioned Atiku losing Yobe, how many letters did Mai Mala Buni write against Atiku with barrage of accusations?

Are the accusations the problem now?
Are you from Anambra State?

Even if he hadn't, your anger is because he didn't campaign for Peter Obi. I don't know how many times you have called out Umahi, who also spoke very well against Obi's candidature.

But you were also backing Wike on his phantom quest for Southern Presidency despite his coming to Anambra to throw tantrums at Obi.

All Soludo needed to do was keep quiet. Nobody says he must support Obi. I’m not saying that either. All we are saying is that he should have just kept his opposition to Obi’s ambition to himself and his APGA family, and you would have seen Anambra people vote for LP at the presidential election and do “Nkea Bu Nke Anyi” on the State Level election. Anambra people went against him even at state level because of his utterances against Obi.

What makes you think when it comes to that "nkea bu nkea anyi" will work?

Do you think Atiku won Yobe without tacit connivance from the State Govt or even Yobe? Many still argue whether El-Rufai was not complicit in Atiku winning Kaduna.

But Obi campaigned for LP Candidates in the Assembly Election nah. Obi also should have entered a deal with him, by trading silence for silence.

Why did Osinbajo contest against his benefactor?
Why did Obi contest against the man who brought him to national limelight?

This is Politics. Leave the players and enjoy the game!

Ask yourself, why didn’t Umahi or Uzodimma write such letter to Obi since they are in different political parties and had a more viable presidential candidate they were supporting? Why did they read the room and kept quiet?

But Umahi was also vociferous against Obi nah.

Don't make anybody against Obi an enemy please. Will Uzodinma's silence let LP people vote for him in Nov?

But Soludo felt he’s the most intelligent Igbo man alive and can write letters to ridicule the only Igbo man that has come closest to the presidency since Aguiyi Ironsi and you say there’s nothing wrong in his actions?

His position felt threatened and he had to speak up.
They have a history and this is politics.
No permanent friends but interests.

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Someone who is a petty trader selling pin mouth charger is calling someone wretched. I laugh at your stupidity.

fergie001:

Are the accusations the problem now?

The accusations and Soludo’s conduct during the election is the problem here. You should know that I was not reacting to the facts of the case. Mine is just to side with anything against Soludo.

Are you from Anambra State?

No. But doesn’t limit my knowledge of the politics of the state nor render me any less stake in contributing to what happens there.

Even if he hadn't, your anger is because he didn't campaign for Peter Obi. I don't know how many times you have called out Umahi, who also spoke very well against Obi's candidature.

No, you are wrong. I’ve told you before that I am saying Soludo should have campaigned for Obi. No. He had his presidential candidate to campaign for. What I have issues with is his going full ballistic against Obi.

And about my not extending same energy against Umahi…. You know it’s one thing to talk. What you said, how you said it and your choice of words is whole lot of another kettle of fish.

Or can you remember anything Umahi said during the election? But you will definitely remember “nzogbu nzogbu politics” which has become the anthem of anti-Igbo elements. Have you seen why I have the biggest issue with Soludo. And remember that these things were totally unprovoked.

But you were also backing Wike on his phantom quest for Southern Presidency despite his coming to Anambra to throw tantrums at Obi.

What makes you think when it comes to that "nkea bu nkea anyi" will work?

I never backed Wike for anything. I stopped regarding Wike as anything the day he said he’s not Igbo after massacring people in Obigbo.

And about Soludo being sure that Anambra people will vote APGA in State level election, are you aware that until his interview with Seun of Channels where he said Obi’s investments were now worth “next to nothing”, Soludo still had the goodwill of Ndi Anambra and entire Igbos? He wouldn’t have even laboured hard for it. Everyone would have understood the assignment.

Do you think Atiku won Yobe without tacit connivance from the State Govt or even Yobe? Many still argue whether El-Rufai was not complicit in Atiku winning Kaduna.

But Obi campaigned for LP Candidates in the Assembly Election nah. Obi also should have entered a deal with him, by trading silence for silence.

Why did Osinbajo contest against his benefactor?
Why did Obi contest against the man who brought him to national limelight?

This is Politics. Leave the players and enjoy the game!

But Umahi was also vociferous against Obi nah.

Don't make anybody against Obi an enemy please. Will Uzodinma's silence let LP people vote for him in Nov?


His position felt threatened and he had to speak up.
They have a history and this is politics.
No permanent friends but interests.

Have you seen what I’m seeing? People are insinuating that Atiku couldn’t have won Yobe and Kaduna without the tacit support of the governors of the states who are members of the APC, but here you have a Soludo going full ballistic against Obi, unprovoked.

See, if that kind of Soludo’s attitude is what constitutes politics, then I’m gonna have a hard time playing politics in Nigeria. Because you can’t do that with me and get away with it. You simply can’t.

On why Imo people won’t vote Uzodimma despite not openly going against Obi, you know that Uzodimma and his problems in Imo predates anything that has to do with Obi. So, Imo case is turning on own independent of anything about Obi which you know.

APGA DENOUNCES FCT HIGH COURT JUDGMENT ON PARTY LEADERSHIP
By Wole Adedoyin
The All Progressives Grand Alliance (APGA) hereby expresses its strong denouncement of the recent judgment delivered by His Lordship, Hon Justice Mohammed A Madugu of the FCT High Court, Bwari Judicial Division. This judgment purportedly made pronouncements on the corrected Supreme Court judgment, declaring the Plaintiffs as National Officers of APGA and questioning the authority of the immediate past National Chairman, Dr Victor Ike Oye, to conduct Congresses and the National Convention of APGA.
In a statement released today by the National Publicity Secretary, Mazi Ejimofor Opara, KSM, APGA highlights the irregularities surrounding the proceedings and clarifies the implications of the judgment for the party and the general public.
APGA acknowledges that it would have ignored these perverse and overreaching pronouncements, as the party had no involvement in the proceedings before the said Court. However, the party feels compelled to address the judgment for the benefit of its esteemed members and the general public who may be unaware of its correct implications.
APGA has previously raised concerns regarding the actions taken by Justice Madugu during the proceedings, particularly his ruling on June 2, 2023, which declared an appeal pending before the Court of Appeal as incompetent. Thus, the judgment delivered by the Court comes as no surprise to APGA.
Furthermore, APGA finds it bewildering that the Judge attempted to pronounce upon the tenure of the plaintiffs, which had already expired on May 31, 2023, as per their own claim before the court. Consequently, the court lacked the jurisdiction to deliver the judgment on June 6, 2023.
In light of these facts, APGA firmly asserts that it has no involvement in either the proceedings before Justice Madugu or the judgment delivered by him. As a party, APGA was not a party in the suit and is therefore not bound by the outcome or the judgment purportedly delivered by the Trial Judge.
It is worth noting that the correct interpretation of the Supreme Court Ruling of March 24, 2023, which Justice Madugu delved into, has already been settled by the judgments of two Federal High Courts. Hon Justice James Kolawole Omotosho of the Federal High Court, Abuja Division, and Hon Justice H A Nganjiwa of the Awka Division have already provided clarity on this matter. Additionally, the Court of Appeal affirmed the judgment of Justice Omotosho on June 2, 2023. Justice Madugu's attempt to overturn the Court of Appeal's judgment is a display of judicial rascality.
APGA reiterates that its nationwide congresses and National Convention were conducted in compliance with the judgment of the High Court of Anambra State, Otuocha Judicial Division, which ordered APGA to hold these events before the expiration of its current officers' tenure. Dr Victor Ike Oye cannot, under any circumstances, be equated with APGA. APGA is a duly registered political party with its common seal and possesses the full right to sue or be sued in its name.
Therefore, APGA urges its esteemed members, supporters, and the general public to disregard any claims of an alleged judgment affecting the leadership of the party. Barr Sly Ezeokenwa remains the duly elected National Chairman of APGA, having emerged from a proper National Convention duly monitored by INEC. He is the rightful person recognized by law to carry out the functions of the office.

APGA AFFIRMS LEGITIMACY OF NATIONAL WORKING COMMITTEE AMIDST RECENT COURT JUDGMENT

By Wole Adedoyin

The All Progressives Grand Alliance (APGA) wishes to clarify its position regarding the recent court judgment delivered on 6th June 2023, in a suit filed against Chief Victor Ike Oye and INEC by Otunba Camaru Lateef Ogidan and Rubiu Mustapha. The judgment has no effect on the legitimacy of the wards, Local Governments, and States congresses, as well as the National Convention of APGA held on 31st May 2023, which saw the emergence of the Barr Sly Ezeokenwa-led National Working Committee.

In a legal statement issued by the National Legal Adviser of the party Victor Agunzi Esq and made available by the National Publicity Secretary of the party, Mazi Ejimofor Opara, KSM, provides the following points to support the affirmation of the legitimacy of its National Working Committee:

1. APGA was not a party to the suit, and there was no order made against APGA regarding the conduct of its congresses and National Convention.

2. As APGA was not a party to the suit, it is not bound by the judgment delivered.

3. The Court did not declare Edozie Njoku as the National Chairman of APGA.

4. The Court only emphasized the need for parties to obey the Supreme Court judgment delivered on 14th October 2021.

5. The Court affirmed that the status quo, as stated in the Supreme Court judgment, should be maintained before the suit was filed in Jigawa.

6. The Court did not define the specific status quo but left it to the parties involved.

7. The Court of Appeal's judgment, which was affirmed by the Supreme Court, already determined the status quo before the suit in Jigawa. It recognized Chief Victor Ike Oye as the validly elected Chairman of APGA.

8. The Court stated that any action taken by Chief Victor Ike Oye in contravention of a court judgment is null and void. However, it did not find that Chief Victor Ike Oye had violated the Supreme Court judgment.

9. The Court of Appeal, on 2nd June 2023, affirmed the judgment of Hon. Justice James Kolawole Omotosho, which authenticated Dr. Victor Ike Oye as the National Chairman of APGA authorized by law to nominate and forward the names of APGA candidates to INEC.

10. The judgment of the Court of Appeal, affirming Justice James Kolawole Omotosho's judgment, holds greater authority than that of the FCT High Court.

11. INEC is bound by law to obey the judgment of a superior court, not an inferior court.

APGA asserts that the judgments of the Supreme Court, Court of Appeal, and the validation of Dr. Victor Ike Oye as the National Chairman of APGA all favor its cause. Furthermore, the Court's order restraining INEC from recognizing Chief Victor Ike Oye as the National Chairman does not affect the legitimacy of the current National Working Committee.

The Wards, Local Governments, States Congresses, and the National Convention of APGA were conducted in compliance with the Supreme Court judgment and the Anambra State High Court judgment mandating Chief Victor Ike Oye to conduct these activities before the expiration of his tenure.

Barr Sly Ezeokenwa and members of his National Working Committee, elected at the National Convention of APGA held on 31st May 2023, remain the validly elected National executives of APGA.

APGA urges its members and supporters to disregard the propaganda and misinformation being spread by the Edozie Njoku group regarding the recent court judgment. The party remains committed to its principles and the development of Nigeria.

Penguin2:

The accusations and Soludo’s conduct during the election is the problem here. You should know that I was not reacting to the facts of the case. Mine is just to side with anything against Soludo.

This in itself is bad. That kind of politics didn't help us with Buhari and isn't helping with Tinubu.

No, you are wrong. I’ve told you before that I am saying Soludo should have campaigned for Obi. No. He had his presidential candidate to campaign for. What I have issues with is his going full ballistic against Obi.

That is because he was threatened. Everyone knows Obi wants to uproot Soludo as Governor.

In his demeanor, we all know he wants to, so a Soludo cannot sit idly by and not use his Office as Gov by going full throttle. He also has a close rship with the PDP Presidential Candidate as well, so it is personal as well.

When Obi ran as VP-Candidate to Atiku, Obiano publicly backed Buhari. He didn't hide it, what is it about Soludo you dislike?
Obiano who is a direct beneficiary of Obi's support to be Gov went against him but you didn't show this angst then.

And about my not extending same energy against Umahi…. You know it’s one thing to talk. What you said, how you said it and your choice of words is whole lot of another kettle of fish.

Or can you remember anything Umahi said during the election?

Umahi did a televised broadcast telling Ebonyians to vote for Tinubu. Tinubu will protect the Ebonyi agenda, don't vote for LP. (These were Umahi's words on live broadcast).

The same Umahi blocked LP from using the stadium for Obi, Am I correct?

But you will definitely remember “nzogbu nzogbu politics” which has become the anthem of anti-Igbo elements. Have you seen why I have the biggest issue with Soludo. And remember that these things were totally unprovoked.

When life gives you lemon, you turn it lemonade.

He has spoken, now let us begin to put our house in order and prepare for 2031. I don't want to go he said, she said... Can we start the talking to one another now to prevent another "nzogbu nzogbu."

And about Soludo being sure that Anambra people will vote APGA in State level election, are you aware that until his interview with Seun of Channels where he said Obi’s investments were now worth “next to nothing”, Soludo still had the goodwill of Ndi Anambra and entire Igbos? He wouldn’t have even laboured hard for it. Everyone would have understood the assignment.

Tinubu's paper has started hitting Buhari less than one week in Office. Obi also replied intelligently so......

So you can't criticise a former Gov, did Obi not heavily criticise his successor?

Have you seen what I’m seeing? People are insinuating that Atiku couldn’t have won Yobe and Kaduna without the tacit support of the Governors of the states who are members of the APC, but here you have a Soludo going full ballistic against Obi, unprovoked.

Unprovoked indeed?
As if Ozigbo will not take the LP ticket and then the combination of Umeh/Obi & Ors will not go all out to send Soludo packing.

You think Atiku sat in Jada and they started working for him? There must have been some understanding. Infact at some point, we saw the fight between Bala Mohammed/Sadique Abubakar & Atiku.

Soludo knows Obi wants him out of there by every means, so he started defending himself.

See, if that kind of Soludo’s attitude is what constitutes politics, then I’m gonna have a hard time playing politics in Nigeria. Because you can’t do that with me and get away with it. You simply can’t.

There are no Saints here.
How did Obiano and Obi fall out?
Obi if for nothing went against him so politically, they are not friends, what's strange about that?

See those who are not from SE have seen our weaknesses. We are too emotional with our politics. If your joining APC will give you what you want go there. If it's PDP or LP, move with the tide.
That's how it's played, in the case of ours, it's different.

I repeat that Soludo is defending himself. Asides House of Assembly, where does APGA command control?

When the Campaigns start, you will go against Soludo and you want him to fold his hands and keep quiet?
The 2026 race has started already and everyone has to be prepared.

On why Imo people won’t vote Uzodimma despite not openly going against Obi, you know that Uzodimma and his problems in Imo predates anything that has to do with Obi. So, Imo case is turning on own independent of anything about Obi which you know.

I spent a few months in Owerri during the elections and I know many who are complaining about the LP guy that was voted in for Senate.

The complaint is that in PDP, he did nothing defected to the LP and the wave railroaded him to the red chamber again. Many are still upset he is going back.

fergie001:

In his demeanor, we all know he wants to, so a Soludo cannot sit idly by and not use his Office as Gov by going full throttle. He also has a close rship with the PDP Presidential Candidate as well, so it is personal as well.

If Soludo had respected himself and kept quiet. All he would have needed to do would be to deliver for Ndi Anambra and 1000 Obi couldn’t have been able to uproot him especially when he campaigns with “Nkea bu nke anyi”. Remember that Soludo was popular in his own right before the APGA platform. He simply goofed.

When Obi ran as VP-Candidate to Atiku, Obiano publicly backed Buhari. He didn't hide it, what is it about Soludo you dislike?
Obiano who is a direct beneficiary of Obi's support to be Gov went against him but you didn't show this angst then.

Are you forgetting that before the 2019 general election, Obi and Obiano were engaged in a very messy contest where Obi almost uprooted him with Obaze. So, Obiano’s actions were a little understandable because of that. That’s unlike Soludo’s faux pax that simply fell from the sky.

Umahi did a televised broadcast telling Ebonyians to vote for Tinubu. Tinubu will protect the Ebonyi agenda, don't vote for LP. (These were Umahi's words on live broadcast).

The same Umahi blocked LP from using the stadium for Obi, Am I correct?

That’s not correct. Umahi released the Ebonyi Township Stadium for Obi’s campaign.

When life gives you lemon, you turn it lemonade.

He has spoken, now let us begin to put our house in order and prepare for 2031. I don't want to go he said, she said... Can we start the talking to one another now to prevent another "nzogbu nzogbu."


Tinubu's paper has started hitting Buhari less than one week in Office. Obi also replied intelligently so......

So you can't criticise a former Gov, did Obi not heavily criticise his successor?

Unprovoked indeed?
As if Ozigbo will not take the LP ticket and then the combination of Umeh/Obi & Ors will not go all out to send Soludo packing.

You think Atiku sat in Jada and they started working for him? There must have been some understanding. Infact at some point, we saw the fight between Bala Mohammed/Sadique Abubakar & Atiku.

Soludo knows Obi wants him out of there by every means, so he started defending himself.

There are no Saints here.
How did Obiano and Obi fall out?
Obi if for nothing went against him so politically, they are not friends, what's strange about that?

See those who are not from SE have seen our weaknesses. We are too emotional with our politics. If your joining APC will give you what you want go there. If it's PDP or LP, move with the tide.
That's how it's played, in the case of ours, it's different.

I repeat that Soludo is defending himself. Asides House of Assembly, where does APGA command control?

When the Campaigns start, you will go against Soludo and you want him to fold his hands and keep quiet?
The 2026 race has started already and everyone has to be prepared.


I spent a few months in Owerri during the elections and I know many who are complaining about the LP guy that was voted in for Senate.

The complaint is that in PDP, he did nothing defected to the LP and the wave railroaded him to the red chamber again. Many are still upset he is going back.

See, I get your point. That we need to join the north and west in their brand of politics but that’s not who we are.

Remember that whatever you, and others in your school of thought, are calling emotional politics today and regarding as our weakness, served as our strength since 1979 until 2015 when the MiddleBelt who have always voted in same direction with the southeast deviated due to perceived failures of the Jonathan Administration.

The only reason you guys are thinking our brand of politics worked against us again in 2023 is just because Atiku and Obi shared their votes. Had they united, you know what the outcome would have been.

But would you blame Obi for running against PDP? No. PDP and Atiku needed to be taught a lesson that our loyalty for 24 years was not out of foolishness. I don’t care if Tinubu’s presidency is the result of that move. At least, PDP now knows that the southeast is not inconsequential.

Meanwhile, remember that had votes counted transparently, Obi could have won this election and put the idiots who called his move nzogbu nzogbu to shame.

I am totally against us becoming who we are not just so we could get accepted by the rest of Nigeria. Nobody has told the northerners to stop being who they are so that Igbos can accept them. Why do Igbos need to stop being Igbos so they get accepted by the North or West?

Penguin2:

If Soludo had respected himself and kept quiet. All he would have needed to do would be to deliver for Ndi Anambra and 1000 Obi couldn’t have been able to uproot him especially when he campaigns with “Nkea bu nke anyi”. Remember that Soludo was popular in his own right before the APGA platform. He simply goofed.

In this game of politics, you have to attack and not be on the defensive. You have to crush your opponent so that he will not have the muscle to stand let alone fight back. Go and study what OBJ did to the SW Govs in 2003.

Study what GEJ did to Sylva and Ogbulafor when he became President.

The moment Ozigbo/Obaze moved to LP, I knew Soludo will react because Obi & himself have never been friends politically. The LP is pressing for a showdown in 2026 and we all know it.

The way they entered the HoA elections, you should have known. So Soludo will punch more, that's a given. He is in a space where he knows what Obi/Ozigbo and co want to do and vice-versa. It's the game and they are playing it.

Are you forgetting that before the 2019 general election, Obi and Obiano were engaged in a very messy contest where Obi almost uprooted him with Obaze. So, Obiano’s actions were a little understandable because of that. That’s unlike Soludo’s faux pax that simply fell from the sky.

But Obi also wanted to uproot Soludo with Ozigbo. He backed Val and still backing him.

Why will Soludo's not be understandable.

That’s not correct. Umahi released the Ebonyi Township Stadium for Obi’s campaign.

But he made a live broadcast right?

https://www.nairaland.com/7337851/ebonyi-govt-obis-supporters-refused#116751492 (This was his lame excuse)

See, I get your point. That we need to join the north and west in their brand of politics but that’s not who we are.

Remember that whatever you, and others in your school of thought, are calling emotional politics today and regarding as our weakness, served as our strength since 1979 until 2015 when the MiddleBelt who have always voted in same direction with the southeast deviated due to perceived failures of the Jonathan Administration.

But now the Zone is in opposition and we cannot get out of it.

It is not bad to be in opposition but you have to learn to navigate through it, are we?

The only reason you guys are thinking our brand of politics worked against us again in 2023 is just because Atiku and Obi shared their votes. Had they united, you know what the outcome would have been.

Atiku will not have won even with Obi. We can say that because of the permutations and all that but he will not have.

The Church came out because of Obi.
The SE voted like never before because of Obi.
The young ones joined in because of that.
Majority of the votes were as a result of not wanting Atiku/Tinubu than the perfections of Obi's time as Governor where we saw many who abused him then join his Campaign last year.

Most of the votes were to punish Atiku/Tinubu hence Atiku will not have enjoyed that because Obi is Vice and not the main man.

For the umpteenth time, Atiku will never have picked Obi as Vice. He always wanted a Gov...

But would you blame Obi for running against PDP? No. PDP and Atiku needed to be taught a lesson that our loyalty for 24 years was not out of foolishness. I don’t care if Tinubu’s presidency is the result of that move. At least, PDP now knows that the southeast is not inconsequential.

Who is teaching who a lesson?
Has the SE gained now wrt Abuja doings?
It is like cutting your nose to spite your face.
There was a Primary and people voted and someone won, what did PDP do?

Asides 1999, tell me one major Party that have zoned their Presidency? None. See, neither the APC nor PDP will Zone to the SE. It is now a fait accompli so you have to fight, compete, contest and carry other Zones along. Take it, grab it albeit legitimately and run away with it.

Meanwhile, remember that had votes counted transparently, Obi could have won this election and put the idiots who called his move nzogbu nzogbu to shame.

Won which election?
Go to my comments on May 26 last year, it was mathematically and politically impossible for Obi/Atiku to have won the 2023 Presidential Election. That is a fact! Don't scream rigging, it was always bound to happen in the election.

I am totally against us becoming who we are not just so we could get accepted by the rest of Nigeria. Nobody has told the northerners to stop being who they are so that Igbos can accept them. Why do Igbos need to stop being Igbos so they get accepted by the North or West?

Does making Political decisions mean you are toeing the line of anyone? The North adjusted, they own the PDP and moved in droves to get APC.

Elections have been won and lost and no singular Zone can actualise the Presidency without support from others no matter how emotional we see it.

There is what we call political reality and the SS is moving. Jonathan is from SS but it seems we are the worst hit.

I am not saying all Igbos should join APC but you can be in one Party and offer Plenty. No messiah, including Obi or Soludo will do it for us.

We have to foster regional integration. Play your politics in Abuja but have a very strong regional bloc so that we can grow.

I have never blamed Obi for contesting, he has his rights, he is a politician so nobody can fault him on that.

Metrix147:

Source: https://abntv.com.ng/news/court-sacks-ezeokenwa-as-apga-chairman-voids-victor-oyes-actions-udensi-edozie-njoku-others-jubilate/

is APGA cursed?

fergie001:
In this game of politics, you have to attack and not be on the defensive. You have to crush your opponent so that he will not have the muscle to stand let alone fight back. Go and study what OBJ did to the SW Govs in 2003.

Study what GEJ did to Sylva and Ogbulafor when he became President.

The moment Ozigbo/Obaze moved to LP, I knew Soludo will react because Obi & himself have never been friends politically. The LP is pressing for a showdown in 2026 and we all know it.

The way they entered the HoA elections, you should have known. So Soludo will punch more, that's a given. He is in a space where he knows what Obi/Ozigbo and co want to do and vice-versa. It's the game and they are playing it.

In the place where Soludo is currently in Anambra politics, do you think he is attacking or he has already slid into defense?

But Obi also wanted to uproot Soludo with Ozigbo. He backed Val and still backing him.

Why will Soludo's not be understandable.
But he made a live broadcast right?

When Obi supported Val, Soludo was not governor. So I do not think it would make sense for Soludo to see a guber contest as Obi attacking him.

If he sees it like that, then why has he not assassinated the then Anambra Deputy Governor who defected from APGA to APC? Because that guy did more harm to Soludo’s chances than Obi did supporting Val.

https://www.nairaland.com/7337851/ebonyi-govt-obis-supporters-refused#116751492 (This was his lame excuse)

If my memory is not failing me, I think the rally was later held at the stadium 🏟. I know this because I saw clips.

But I hope you know I’m not an Umahi man and I’m not supporting him? If anything, I hate Umahi to my bones. The only reason I don’t seem to extend same energy I’m extending to Soludo to Umahi is because Umahi is a member of the APC which had a viable candidate in the election. So one could understand him campaigning for someone he knows stands a chance.

But Soludo knew his candidate in the election was a joke and he needed to align with a party that had a chance in the election. Brotherhood fraternity demanded that Soludo should align with his brother. But not only did Soludo align with an outsider, he took up arms against his brother.

Nobody from any other region did or has ever done this.

Osinbajo’s contest against Tinubu ended at the primaries. For whatever misgivings he has against the person of Tinubu, we never heard him say pim against Tinubu since the primaries until the end of the election.

For whatever misgivings any northerner has against the person of Atiku, nobody from the north wrote an open letter to him vilifying him for running for the presidency when it should be the turn of the South.

During the campaigns, every Nigerian with brains, knew that Obi stood a better chance than Kwankwaso (which the elections showed eventually) but no northerner wrote a letter to Kwankwaso accusing him of playing a dangerous game or whatever ridiculous accusations.

See, Fergie, I’m surprised you are making excuses for Soludo’s actions. Nothing, absolutely nothing, justified Soludo’s vituperations and I insist that an example should be made of him.

But now the Zone is in opposition and we cannot get out of it.

It is not bad to be in opposition but you have to learn to navigate through it, are we?

Atiku will not have won even with Obi. We can say that because of the permutations and all that but he will not have.

The Church came out because of Obi.
The SE voted like never before because of Obi.
The young ones joined in because of that.
Majority of the votes were as a result of not wanting Atiku/Tinubu than the perfections of Obi's time as Governor where we saw many who abused him then join his Campaign last year.

Most of the votes were to punish Atiku/Tinubu hence Atiku will not have enjoyed that because Obi is Vice and not the main man.

For the umpteenth time, Atiku will never have picked Obi as Vice. He always wanted a Gov...

Agreed. Atiku wouldn’t have chosen Obi as running mate again after the PDP governor’s forum extracted commitments from him to choose one of them if he emerges. Obi knew about this meeting and that’s why he left PDP.

But I don’t want to believe that Atiku would have lost if Obi hadn’t left PDP. Granted that turnout wouldn’t have been as it was but if minus about 2million votes from Atiku and Obi’s votes, you have 10million votes which would still have been enough for Atiku to trump Tinubu. Or would you say that new/activated voters exceeded 2million?

Who is teaching who a lesson?
Has the SE gained now wrt Abuja doings?
It is like cutting your nose to spite your face.
There was a Primary and people voted and someone won, what did PDP do?

Asides 1999, tell me one major Party that have zoned their Presidency? None. See, neither the APC nor PDP will Zone to the SE. It is now a fait accompli so you have to fight, compete, contest and carry other Zones along. Take it, grab it albeit legitimately and run away with it.

Rather than play the kind of two-faced politics that some people are suggesting just so we are not in opposition, I’d rather we remain in opposition. The Southwest was in opposition for close to 4 decades and they didn’t die.

Won which election?
Go to my comments on May 26 last year, it was mathematically and politically impossible for Obi/Atiku to have won the 2023 Presidential Election. That is a fact! Don't scream rigging, it was always bound to happen in the election.

Lol! I remember your comment of 26th May. But I laughed it off and I will still laugh it off again. I do not ask you to trust my intelligence but do you really think I would have invested my mental energy campaigning for Obi if didn’t see that he had mathematical pathway to the presidency?

Again, as a Lawyer, by saying there was no pathway for Obi to the presidency, are you saying that if tomorrow the courts decide, from the evidences available to them, that it was Obi that won the election, that the courts would have erred?

Does making Political decisions mean you are toeing the line of anyone? The North adjusted, they own the PDP and moved in droves to get APC.

Elections have been won and lost and no singular Zone can actualise the Presidency without support from others no matter how emotional we see it.

There is what we call political reality and the SS is moving. Jonathan is from SS but it seems we are the worst hit.

I am not saying all Igbos should join APC but you can be in one Party and offer Plenty. No messiah, including Obi or Soludo will do it for us.

We have to foster regional integration. Play your politics in Abuja but have a very strong regional bloc so that we can grow.

I have never blamed Obi for contesting, he has his rights, he is a politician so nobody can fault him on that.

See, Fergie, Igbos play ideological politics. And that’s why they are always averse to any party that holds some ideology against their own. I suggest we continue like that. Things might not be working out now but in no distant time, what you people consider as weakness will manifest as strength in the nearest future.

fergie001:
In this game of politics, you have to attack and not be on the defensive. You have to crush your opponent so that he will not have the muscle to stand let alone fight back. Go and study what OBJ did to the SW Govs in 2003.

Study what GEJ did to Sylva and Ogbulafor when he became President.

The moment Ozigbo/Obaze moved to LP, I knew Soludo will react because Obi & himself have never been friends politically. The LP is pressing for a showdown in 2026 and we all know it.

The way they entered the HoA elections, you should have known. So Soludo will punch more, that's a given. He is in a space where he knows what Obi/Ozigbo and co want to do and vice-versa. It's the game and they are playing it.

In the place where Soludo is currently in Anambra politics, do you think he is attacking or he has already slid into defense?

But Obi also wanted to uproot Soludo with Ozigbo. He backed Val and still backing him.

Why will Soludo's not be understandable.
But he made a live broadcast right?

When Obi supported Val, Soludo was not governor. So I do not think it would make sense for Soludo to see a guber contest as Obi attacking him.

If he sees it like that, then why has he not assassinated the then Anambra Deputy Governor who defected from APGA to APC? Because that guy did more harm to Soludo’s chances than Obi did supporting Val.

https://www.nairaland.com/7337851/ebonyi-govt-obis-supporters-refused#116751492 (This was his lame excuse)

If my memory is not failing me, I think the rally was later held at the stadium 🏟. I know this because I saw clips.

But I hope you know I’m not an Umahi man and I’m not supporting him? If anything, I hate Umahi to my bones. The only reason I don’t seem to extend same energy I’m extending to Soludo to Umahi is because Umahi is a member of the APC which had a viable candidate in the election. So one could understand him campaigning for someone he knows stands a chance.

But Soludo knew his candidate in the election was a joke and he needed to align with a party that had a chance in the election. Brotherhood fraternity demanded that Soludo should align with his brother. But not only did Soludo align with an outsider, he took up arms against his brother.

Nobody from any other region did or has ever done this.

Osinbajo’s contest against Tinubu ended at the primaries. For whatever misgivings he has against the person of Tinubu, we never heard him say pim against Tinubu since the primaries until the end of the election.

For whatever misgivings any northerner has against the person of Atiku, nobody from the north wrote an open letter to him vilifying him for running for the presidency when it should be the turn of the South.

During the campaigns, every Nigerian with brains, knew that Obi stood a better chance than Kwankwaso (which the elections showed eventually) but no northerner wrote a letter to Kwankwaso accusing him of playing a dangerous game or whatever ridiculous accusations.

See, Fergie, I’m surprised you are making excuses for Soludo’s actions. Nothing, absolutely nothing, justified Soludo’s vituperations and I insist that an example should be made of him.

But now the Zone is in opposition and we cannot get out of it.

It is not bad to be in opposition but you have to learn to navigate through it, are we?

Atiku will not have won even with Obi. We can say that because of the permutations and all that but he will not have.

The Church came out because of Obi.
The SE voted like never before because of Obi.
The young ones joined in because of that.
Majority of the votes were as a result of not wanting Atiku/Tinubu than the perfections of Obi's time as Governor where we saw many who abused him then join his Campaign last year.

Most of the votes were to punish Atiku/Tinubu hence Atiku will not have enjoyed that because Obi is Vice and not the main man.

For the umpteenth time, Atiku will never have picked Obi as Vice. He always wanted a Gov...

Agreed. Atiku wouldn’t have chosen Obi as running mate again after the PDP governor’s forum extracted commitments from him to choose one of them if he emerges. Obi knew about this meeting and that’s why he left PDP.

But I don’t want to believe that Atiku would have lost if Obi hadn’t left PDP. Granted that turnout wouldn’t have been as it was but if minus about 2million votes from Atiku and Obi’s votes, you have 10million votes which would still have been enough for Atiku to trump Tinubu. Or would you say that new/activated voters exceeded 2million?

Who is teaching who a lesson?
Has the SE gained now wrt Abuja doings?
It is like cutting your nose to spite your face.
There was a Primary and people voted and someone won, what did PDP do?

Asides 1999, tell me one major Party that have zoned their Presidency? None. See, neither the APC nor PDP will Zone to the SE. It is now a fait accompli so you have to fight, compete, contest and carry other Zones along. Take it, grab it albeit legitimately and run away with it.

Rather than play the kind of two-faced politics that some people are suggesting just so we are not in opposition, I’d rather we remain in opposition. The Southwest was in opposition for close to 4 decades and they didn’t die.

Won which election?
Go to my comments on May 26 last year, it was mathematically and politically impossible for Obi/Atiku to have won the 2023 Presidential Election. That is a fact! Don't scream rigging, it was always bound to happen in the election.

Lol! I remember your comment of 26th May. But I laughed it off and I will still laugh it off again. I do not ask you to trust my intelligence but do you really think I would have invested my mental energy campaigning for Obi if didn’t see that he had mathematical pathway to the presidency?

Again, as a Lawyer, by saying there was no pathway for Obi to the presidency, are you saying that if tomorrow the courts decide, from the evidences available to them, that it was Obi that won the election, that the courts would have erred?

Does making Political decisions mean you are toeing the line of anyone? The North adjusted, they own the PDP and moved in droves to get APC.

Elections have been won and lost and no singular Zone can actualise the Presidency without support from others no matter how emotional we see it.

There is what we call political reality and the SS is moving. Jonathan is from SS but it seems we are the worst hit.

I am not saying all Igbos should join APC but you can be in one Party and offer Plenty. No messiah, including Obi or Soludo will do it for us.

We have to foster regional integration. Play your politics in Abuja but have a very strong regional bloc so that we can grow.

I have never blamed Obi for contesting, he has his rights, he is a politician so nobody can fault him on that.

See, Fergie, Igbos play ideological politics. And that’s why they are always averse to any party that holds some ideology against their own. I suggest we continue like that. Things might not be working out now but in no distant time, what you people consider as weakness will manifest as strength in the nearest future….

Penguin2:
Soludo will be taught a bitter lesson.

Soludo will be made to understand that he’s a small boy in Igboland.

That he made the greatest mistake of his entire existence the day he chose to go against the collective interest of Ndigbo.

The battle line is drawn. Let’s see how far he can go in this fight.

Onye ala!

Ndigbo abi IPOB

Penguin2:
In the place where Soludo is currently in Anambra politics, do you think he is attacking or he has already slid into defense?

He wants to win an election, so now is for work.

When Obi supported Val, Soludo was not governor. So I do not think it would make sense for Soludo to see a guber contest as Obi attacking him.

He was contesting as Gov backed by Obiano who was not on good terms with Val's benefactor.

If he sees it like that, then why has he not assassinated the then Anambra Deputy Governor who defected from APGA to APC? Because that guy did more harm to Soludo’s chances than Obi did supporting Val.

The Deputy-Gov was hustling, many don't even know him, he was no threat.

But I hope you know I’m not an Umahi man and I’m not supporting him? If anything, I hate Umahi to my bones. The only reason I don’t seem to extend same energy I’m extending to Soludo to Umahi is because Umahi is a member of the APC which had a viable candidate in the election. So one could understand him campaigning for someone he knows stands a chance.

A brother is a brother, one should always align with his brother, Umahi should not have sided with an outsider (I am quoting you).

But Soludo knew his candidate in the election was a joke and he needed to align with a party that had a chance in the election. Brotherhood fraternity demanded that Soludo should align with his brother. But not only did Soludo align with an outsider, he took up arms against his brother.

Nobody from any other region did or has ever done this.

Who did Adeleke align with?
Who did Amaechi align with whilst he was Gov?
You can't be doing brother brother and you want to collect my chair. Politics is interests!

Osinbajo’s contest against Tinubu ended at the primaries. For whatever misgivings he has against the person of Tinubu, we never heard him say pim against Tinubu since the primaries until the end of the election.

Before the Primary, did he say anything? Was Osinbajo going for another term?

For whatever misgivings any northerner has against the person of Atiku, nobody from the north wrote an open letter to him vilifying him for running for the presidency when it should be the turn of the South.

They were groups who villified him.
Not just that, his tsunami in 2019 also cost Jibrilla his job. Jibrilla is the former Gov from APC who lost his 2nd term.

During the campaigns, every Nigerian with brains, knew that Obi stood a better chance than Kwankwaso (which the elections showed eventually) but no northerner wrote a letter to Kwankwaso accusing him of playing a dangerous game or whatever ridiculous accusations.

How can someone who posed no threat to anybody be written to?
Everybody knew he wanted Kano, everyone also knows he has an unsettled feud with Atiku since 2014.
If he had wanted to work for anybody, Tinubu will be his 1st choice.

See, Fergie, I’m surprised you are making excuses for Soludo’s actions. Nothing, absolutely nothing, justified Soludo’s vituperations and I insist that an example should be made of him.

Umahi defected to APC, more than half the Members left with him, yet the 5 or so in PDP were suspended.

Obi through Obaze/Ozigbo is coming for Soludo's job, ofc he won't bend over and be screwed. When Obi was impeached illegally, the APGA told Etiaba to reject been sworn-in, she capitulated and went on but when Obi reclaimed his mandate, he didn't reason that if Etiaba turned it down, then Speaker Balonwu of PDP will have been Gov. He did what anyone will do, refused to pick Virgy for his second term. Why should Soludo sacrifice his job for Obi, something he sees they are coming for.
APGA has no Senator (2 LP, 1 YPP)
APGA has 4 HoRs, LP 6, YPP 1 & you want Soludo to sleep well.

I am not supporting Soludo but I am saying they are coming for him and you want him to throw away his seat? No way.

But I don’t want to believe that Atiku would have lost if Obi hadn’t left PDP. Granted that turnout wouldn’t have been as it was but if minus about 2million votes from Atiku and Obi’s votes, you have 10million votes which would still have been enough for Atiku to trump Tinubu. Or would you say that new/activated voters exceeded 2million?

1+1 in politics could be 5.
Asides Anambra, where did PDP return huge votes in the SE in 2019?

If we want tbh, some voted Obi because they wanted a departure from the past (Atiku/Tinubu), some for religious reasons that a Muslim or Northerner can't succeed another, some were angry at the Muslim/Muslim, some wanted someone who is relatable, others wanted someone who they see as one who can save some cash and provide solutions to the Country's many issues. With the experience of Osinbajo & Buhari, how many in the SE and Southern KD/Benue/Adamawa will have come out vociferously for Obi as Vice?

You know the answer to that already. Atiku/Obi will have lost Lagos, lost Kano and still lost Rivers.

Rather than play the kind of two-faced politics that some people are suggesting just so we are not in opposition, I’d rather we remain in opposition. The Southwest was in opposition for close to 4 decades and they didn’t die.

See whenever I talk people say I am anti-East. As a ruling Party, what did we gain? Under Jonathan & OBJ where the SE held sway in very important positions, what did we do with them, I can mention names.
As an opposition, what are we gaining?
I am very sure you are not in the East, maybe Lagos or Abuja so it is a region in absolute neglect by the FG. I was born and raised in Lag, my parents were born here but I spend weeks in the SE every year and anyone who tells you we don't need the FG's input is a liar.

As an Ebonyi man, it is easy for you to say. in the last 10 years, there is no State that has benefitted from the FG in the SE than your State, in terms of manpower, jobs, Civil Service, FG institutions, name it. If the Uburu man who was Science & Tech Minister was half like Umahi or Anyim, we will be saying something else.

Go to other States, go to Abia, then anyone who tells you they don't need FG presence there should be stoned.

Now to the SW, are we doing what they did to survive in opposition? They merged with the Northern strength of CPC/ANPP and survived, yet you want us now to go it alone, it doesn't work that way.

Lol! I remember your comment of 26th May. But I laughed it off and I will still laugh it off again. I do not ask you to trust my intelligence but do you really think I would have invested my mental energy campaigning for Obi if didn’t see that he had mathematical pathway to the presidency?

There was no pathway to win and I said this many times. Not him, not Atiku. APC didn't lose their votes whilst the other blocs were sharing theirs.

There was no political or mathematical way for any of them to win. You don't need a guru to let you know that.

Again, as a Lawyer, by saying there was no pathway for Obi to the presidency, are you saying that if tomorrow the courts decide, from the evidences available to them, that it was Obi that won the election, that the courts would have erred?

There is no pathway for neither Atiku nor Obi to win. I saw what they were filing in Court and I know that the elections were not perfect but it's not the worst we have seen.
Nothing will come out from the tribunal. I have repeatedly said this!

See, Fergie, Igbos play ideological politics. And that’s why they are always averse to any party that holds some ideology against their own. I suggest we continue like that. Things might not be working out now but in no distant time, what you people consider as weakness will manifest as strength in the nearest future….

Politics is now realism and not idealogical. Who are those playing the idealogical politics?

When did it start? Nobody can win in isolation, until we merge or join others to benefit, we will remain a lone ranger. We will see what this fresh people have in stock for us, hopefully there will be some light.

Cc . Ferggie. Penguin is right about soludo.

Soludo should face Peter obi and leave the igbos out his business.

That letter on November is uncalled for. Very very uncalled for. Calling Ndigbo " Nzogbu Nzogbu people " why now ? That why igbos attacked him. If he only maintain his stand by criticizing Obi. No would have cares. Politicians attack each others.

We all understand his frustrations. Peter obi is a stumbling block to his presidential ambition. Soludo has a presidential ambition, that why he was supporting Atiku to win . So that after 8 eight years, Atiku will have over to him.

After Atiku said, he is the road to Igbo presidency. Soludo thought, he will be the chosen one. Then he saw Peter obi campaigning , pulling massive supports and crowd.

Soludo started misbehaving. Attacking everyone. Obi, igbos, Obidients etc. He even called Peter obi supporters headless Mob.

If soludo has chosen that route. No wahala.

We are still waiting for his second letter.

fergie001:
See whenever I talk people say I am anti-East. As a ruling Party, what did we gain? Under Jonathan & OBJ where the SE held sway in very important positions, what did we do with them, I can mention names.
As an opposition, what are we gaining?
I am very sure you are not in the East, maybe Lagos or Abuja so it is a region in absolute neglect by the FG. I was born and raised in Lag, my parents were born here but I spend weeks in the SE every year and anyone who tells you we don't need the FG's input is a liar.

Sorry, I was banned by a madafaking anti-bot.

But I think I see why you reason and hold the line of thinking you hold sometimes. I think your parents and yourself being born in Lagos has kind alienated you, to an extent, from the mentality of the Igbos. And that’s why most Igbos that you relate with, who don’t share your kind of background, always think you are anti-Igbo. I am tempted to think in same way too if not that I try to understand that you are only proposing what you believe would work for Igbos.

But that’s Lagos/Yoruba kind of politics. But I think it makes sense to you because you grew up witnessing that brand of politics. But that has been the Yoruba kind of politics since the 50s while Igbos has played their own kind of politics since Pre-independence as well. So, it makes no sense that because Yoruba’s brand of politics just worked for them in 3 election cycle, albeit criminally, therefore the Igbos should stop being who they are. If you say this to 200 Igbos, you will get my kind of response, I bet you.

As an Ebonyi man, it is easy for you to say. in the last 10 years, there is no State that has benefitted from the FG in the SE than your State, in terms of manpower, jobs, Civil Service, FG institutions, name it. If the Uburu man who was Science & Tech Minister was half like Umahi or Anyim, we will be saying something else.

Ironically, what has helped Ebonyi is not Federal Government patronage but because we have been lucky with leadership since 1999. From Egwu to Elechi to Umahi, these guys have been intentional about trying to erase the erroneous views the rest Igbos hold against us, and try to put the state on the map. Because since 1999, the only tangible thing I can recall FG doing for us is the reconstruction of Enugu-Abakaliki Expressway and the siting of Alex Ekwueme Federal University in Ndufu Alike, Ikwo. Any other thing you might wanna talk about are quite ignoble.

With that said, I’ve also spent considerable part of my life in Enugu. In fact, I moved to Lagos from Enugu. So, I am quite informed about whatever I tell you; I rarely speak from an emotional place.

What I’m saying is that all states of the Southeast needs a Federal government intervention but that doesn’t mean we should stop being who we are just to get accepted.

Besides, are you away that during the PDP era, a lot of Federal Government projects were awarded in the Southeast but the thieves who call themselves our politicians shared the funds meant for the projects amongst themselves?

Go to other States, go to Abia, then anyone who tells you they don't need FG presence there should be stoned.

Now to the SW, are we doing what they did to survive in opposition? They merged with the Northern strength of CPC/ANPP and survived, yet you want us now to go it alone, it doesn't work that way.

There was no pathway to win and I said this many times. Not him, not Atiku. APC didn't lose their votes whilst the other blocs were sharing theirs.

There was no political or mathematical way for any of them to win. You don't need a guru to let you know that.

There is no pathway for neither Atiku nor Obi to win. I saw what they were filing in Court and I know that the elections were not perfect but it's not the worst we have seen.
Nothing will come out from the tribunal. I have repeatedly said this!


Politics is now realism and not idealogical. Who are those playing the idealogical politics?

When did it start? Nobody can win in isolation, until we merge or join others to benefit, we will remain a lone ranger. We will see what this fresh people have in stock for us, hopefully there will be some light.

See, whatever you think the Southwest did in opposition to survive, that’s what Obi is doing now.

I remember in your last comment you said the Southeast needs to fight for power. If what Obi is doing is not fighting, I wonder what it is.

Before Tinubu considered an alliance with Buhari, Buhari failed 3 times but his contests showed that he had consistent loyal supporters/voters of 12million voters. That was what Tinubu knew that if he tapped into it, they would have victory.

Tinubu on his own side, schemed his way and conquered, or almost conquered, the Southwest. So he was sure of what he was bringing to the table.

Tinubu now went to the table with Buhari to negotiate, and not beg. Their union produced an APC led government.

Obi, by his participation in the 2023 presidential election, has demonstrated his popularity. He came away from the contest with 6million votes “without structure” after just about 8 months in a new political party. We can argue that he did more than that number but that’s for the courts to determine.

Now, since the end of the election, have you heard Kwankwaso denigrate Obi again? Have you seen anybody say “there’s no polling unit on the social media” or any of those their jargons again? No.

People who underrated Obi have all gotten the memo and reality silenced them.

Now, if the courts allow Tinubu’s victory to stand, by next election, the people who didn’t want to have a deal with Obi would fall over themselves to get the deal done so they would present a united front against APC.

I am not saying that would defeat Tinubu, but Obi would no longer have to go to the table with any northerner to go and beg, no, he would now sit on the table with them to negotiate because they have seen what he can bring to the table.

So, do you still think that your position is preferable?