Acekidc4:
That's Good Politics for you.............. Emotions can not win you Election.

paxonel:
but fraud can win?

paxonel:
It seems INEC chairman is deliberately trying to confuse Nigerians in order to delay justice at the tribunal and the court of public opinion, but here is the thing.

According to Daily tribune publication on 23rd February 2023 made reference by the INEC council, Ijeoma may not aware that Yakubu did announce that the commission will no longer transmit results from polling units in real time on the IReV, but he specifically said that the polling units have the mandate to use the BVAS to upload the results on INEC portal.

real time transmission of results on the IRev is one thing
Uploading results on INEC portal is another thing.

The idea was that, real time transmission during the collation of results at the national conference centre Abuju should be solely dependent on uploading results on the INEC portal,so that even if the INEC chairman is collecting paper or printed forms from state levels to announce the winner, the figures will have to tally or correspond with what was being uploaded or transmitted and there wouldn't have been any argument at all.

The least INEC would have done was to upload the results on it portal through the BVAS if they could not transmit, so that Nigerians will atleast view the results using their android phones and compare them with what was being announced.

But INEC did not upload, neither did they transmit on that collation day. Rather, they resolved to some cooked fraudulent paper sheets brought from state levels

paxonel:
It seems INEC chairman is deliberately trying to confuse Nigerians in order to delay justice at the tribunal and the court of public opinion, but here is the thing.

According to Daily tribune publication on 23rd February 2023 made reference by the INEC council, Ijeoma may not aware that Yakubu did announce that the commission will no longer transmit results from polling units in real time on the IReV, but he specifically said that the polling units have the mandate to use the BVAS to upload the results on INEC portal.

real time transmission of results on the IRev is one thing
Uploading results on INEC portal is another thing.

The idea was that, real time transmission during the collation of results at the national conference centre Abuju should be solely dependent on uploading results on the INEC portal,so that even if the INEC chairman is collecting paper or printed forms from state levels to announce the winner, the figures will have to tally or correspond with what was being uploaded or transmitted and there wouldn't have been any argument at all.

The least INEC would have done was to upload the results on it portal through the BVAS if they could not transmit, so that Nigerians will atleast view the results using their android phones and compare them with what was being announced.

But INEC did not upload, neither did they transmit on that collation day. Rather, they resolved to some cooked fraudulent paper sheets brought from state levels

Penguin2:


First, results upload is a statutory requirement of the Electoral Act 2022. What this means is that INEC cannot choose not to upload.

Now, the only thing INEC defenders always hinge on to defend INEC’s failure to upload results is that a section of the Electoral Act empowers INEC to determine how it would conduct elections.

But the question is, does INEC have powers to denigrate a statutory provision of the law in exercising whatsoever powers they feel the law gives them?

With that said, it is imperative to state that what Mahmoud Yakubu said in the publication you are referring to is that INEC will not upload raw figures but “snap” form EC8A with BVAS machine and upload from polling units. He never said they were no longer going to upload results in “real time”.

LadyExcellency:
Where is the video evidence to counter numerous International and national interviews he made the speech?

No single video evidence out there on the net.

Trust22:
LoL... Op are u aware court refused to adopt it as evidence yesterday?

Ofunaofu:


Instead of them to provide video evidence of where the INEC chairman made those statements, they are busy shopping for Newspaper reports

They should provide videos just the same way LP provided video evidence of where the INEC chairman himself said that election results with be transmitted to the irev Portal real time on election day

IamV:


Drop a link to your claim please.

paxonel:
It seems INEC chairman is deliberately trying to confuse Nigerians in order to delay justice at the tribunal and the court of public opinion, but here is the thing.

According to Daily tribune publication on 23rd February 2023 made reference by the INEC council, Ijeoma may not aware that Yakubu did announce that the commission will no longer transmit results from polling units in real time on the IReV, but he specifically said that the polling units have the mandate to use the BVAS to upload the results on INEC portal.

real time transmission of results on the IRev is one thing
Uploading results on INEC portal is another thing.

The idea was that, real time transmission during the collation of results at the national conference centre Abuju should be solely dependent on uploading results on the INEC portal,so that even if the INEC chairman is collecting paper or printed forms from state levels to announce the winner, the figures will have to tally or correspond with what was being uploaded or transmitted and there wouldn't have been any argument at all.

The least INEC would have done was to upload the results on it portal through the BVAS if they could not transmit, so that Nigerians will atleast view the results using their android phones and compare them with what was being announced.

But INEC did not upload, neither did they transmit on that collation day. Rather, they resolved to some cooked fraudulent paper sheets brought from state levels

paxonel:


https://tribuneonlineng.com/we-wont-transmit-raw-figures-of-election-results-inec-chairman

meolaniyi:
you deliberately decided to confuse yourself. INEC was specific. They are referring to raw data. INEC said they will not transmit raw data because it's easy to manipulate. The scanned copy is what is supposed to be transmitted realtime

meolaniyi:
you deliberately decided to confuse yourself. INEC was specific. They are referring to raw data. INEC said they will not transmit raw data because it's easy to manipulate. The scanned copy is what is supposed to be transmitted realtime

IamV:


Surprise! Surprise!! Surprise!!!

Here's a press release where INEC DEBUNKED the news that they will be abandoning the capturing of form EC8A at the polling unit using BVAS & the uploading of the results to IREV in results real time.

sreamsense:

How can older press release of November 2022 negated that of Tribune February 2023? Check the date of your image you attached towards the end, It happened by November 2022, this was when INEC initially thought of transmitting possibility. However, Tribune announcement happened on February 2023. Debunk here was for another older previous discussion before INEC foresaw other challenges that may prevent her from live transmission. You were at the court but you are still feeding us with fake information means you are partially bias in your reportage. Obi has no case

IamV:


Get me an excerpt from the news where INEC chairman said results will no longer be transmitted real time ?

I want you to screenshot the particular area of that information and upload it here.

IamV:


Like, he's complicating simple issue here.

I intentionally asked him drop the link to his claim,not because I haven't read it,just wanted to set something straight.

Going through the content of that news, here's an excerpt from INEC chairman's speech ;

“After the process is completed at the polling unit, the image of the polling unit result will be taken by the BVAS and uploaded into what we call the INEC Result Viewing Portal where citizens can see polling unit level results as the processes are completed at polling unit level."

Basically, he's saying form EC8A will be taken by BVAS & UPLOADED into IREV,not just the raw figures of the form EC8A from the polling unit.
Raw figures of results in this sense means the score each party gets from a particular polling unit.
For instance ,in a polling unit, here's the score of each party.

LP= 30 Votes
PDP= 53 votes
APC = 79 votes

INEC chairman is saying that they will not transmit only the figures each party got in a particular polling unit,but will capture the result sheet [ form EC8A] using BVAS and upload the results to IREV where ANXIOUS Nigerians can monitor the results during election.

I still don't understand why some are claiming & interpreting that results won't be taken by BVAS and uploaded into the IREV from the polling unit. Or that results won't be transmitted in real time.

Here's another excerpt from the News link ;

"He said Presiding Officers has the mandate to use the Bimodal Voters Accreditation (BVAS) machine to snap
election results documented on the results sheet from each polling unit and upload the photo of the result on the INEC Result Viewing Portal (IRev) for ANXIOUS NIGERIANS TO OBSERVE."


After reading that excerpt,how is someone claiming that INEC chairman said results [ form EC8A] will no longer be taken by BVAS and uploaded into IREV and will also no longer be transmitted in real time ?

This is pretty straightforward.

paxonel:
you have well explain this. Thanks!

But going by the question INEC council, Awonikoko asked Ijeoma Osamor during her cross-examination at the tribunal that the INEC chairman said results will no longer be uploaded in real time . Is it that the INEC council was referring to raw figures or he was referring to scanned ECBA ?

Because from the lawyer's statement, the results will no longer be uploaded

sreamsense:

That of 23rd February 2023 refered to by one of the opposition lawyers that crossed examine is enough as evidence. If you like twist it as you like just as many of you twisted that of 25% in Abuja to suit your narrative before it was thrown out of window. He said it while addressing international observers and I have seen some more other links on this forum that points to same thing as Tribune, you can look out for the thread; for me, I have no extra time to waste educating you on this to avoid wasting my precious time.

You can believe what you like but reality is there for people to see. What the opposition refered to was so cleared even for the blinds and your press old release image of November 2022 can't negate recent Feb 2023 event, no matter how you twisted it to fit your narrative

sreamsense:

That of 23rd February 2023 refered to by one of the opposition lawyers that crossed examine is enough as evidence. If you like twist it as you like just as many of you twisted that of 25% in Abuja to suit your narrative before it was thrown out of window. He said it while addressing international observers and I have seen some more other links on this forum that points to same thing as Tribune, you can look out for the thread; for me, I have no extra time to waste educating you on this to avoid wasting my precious time.

You can believe what you like but reality is there for people to see. What the opposition refered to was so cleared even for the blinds and your press old release image of November 2022 can't negate recent Feb 2023 event, no matter how you twisted it to fit your narrative

IamV:


I'm not here for your blabbing.

I ask you again,

Show me an excerpt from the 23rd February publication where INEC said they will no longer transmit polling unit results in real time ?

If you can possibly show me an excerpt in respect to that ,I will stop creating threads on live updates of proceedings at the tribunal and I will deactivate my account.

And before I do those,I will give you a parting gift of 100k.
It's a promise.

I'm waiting sir.