Maxxim:
🥺😩😩
I don get path wey I dey follow mk I face front.
#say no to shinning object syndrome 💯

airsaylongcome:


What path are you currently following?

I don't think the post is about getting all those currently learning programming to drop it and start chasing the tools he mentioned. I think it's about encouraging those who like to get into tech but are scared of programming wàhálà to consider other non programming fields

Maxxim:

Lms, I'm actually taking a course with moodle academy and also chrome extension development since I have front end knowledge

airsaylongcome:
@truthcoder learning those tools requires more effort and a lot of patience and perseverance. Setting up a small lab to then orchestrate many servers cost o. A small Lenovo Thinkcentre tiny with a fairly recent i5 processor and say 16Gb of RAM and say 1TB of SSD will set many people back at least ₦150k+ with no immediate rewards. Learning Proxmox for virtualization/containerisation and then going on to learn ansible and terraform will take at least 18 months to gain entry level competence.

I had suggested that this forum's admins spin off a new sub forum dedicated to non-programming tech without much traction on that post. I'm happy were you are trying to take the tech interest to

For a brief moment truthcoder, I thought you were trying to post to a lemmy community with your post title. I don siddon for fediverse tire this last two weeks

airsaylongcome:
I learned ansible using this play list https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLT98CRl2KxKEUHie1m24-wkyHpEsa4Y70

It's a continuous learning process. I personally think a lot of people can get into tech support and system administration because they already have the basic requirements. Many of them can Google and find a solution to whatever problem their PC faces

truthCoder:


Great insights.

How about if these training schools that teach html invest just a little in hardware?

There are some companies that will offer entry roles to people with just basic understanding of playbook and CI/CD pipelines.

KrazyDave16:
I'm on the DevOps path (haven't covered some key stuff like containerization and orchestration proper), it's really stressful, time-consuming and expensive (not necessarily immediately, but as you go further, you will unconsciously have the need to upgrade your hardware)

Tips I can give out to anyone who's interested in learning or already learning is;
1. Embrace the cli (terminal) wholly. If there are some tools with a gui, don't rely too much on it, or don't even rely on it at all.

2. Learn to automate your workflow. Be it via scripts, manifests/cookbooks, cronjobs. No need to cram everything, just automate them, plus time is real important too.

3. Join DevOps, selfhosted and homelab communities. Always found these communities fun and super helpful.

4. Be security conscious. There are lots of attempts to get into your server by bad actors and kids with their bots to do something stupid or something shady.

5. Be consistent. There are a lot of tool to learn, but know that you don't need to cram them all (see point 2).

6. Get a decent PC. A laptop is okay, but if you aren't gonna upgrade it or have plans to convert it into a server of sorts, get a PC.
As for which PC, I have zero idea.

Also is it me or does the font look weird?

KrazyDave16:
I'm on the DevOps path (haven't covered some key stuff like containerization and orchestration proper), it's really stressful, time-consuming and expensive (not necessarily immediately, but as you go further, you will unconsciously have the need to upgrade your hardware)

Tips I can give out to anyone who's interested in learning or already learning is;
1. Embrace the cli (terminal) wholly. If there are some tools with a gui, don't rely too much on it, or don't even rely on it at all.

2. Learn to automate your workflow. Be it via scripts, manifests/cookbooks, cronjobs. No need to cram everything, just automate them, plus time is real important too.

3. Join DevOps, selfhosted and homelab communities. Always found these communities fun and super helpful.

4. Be security conscious. There are lots of attempts to get into your server by bad actors and kids with their bots to do something stupid or something shady.

5. Be consistent. There are a lot of tool to learn, but know that you don't need to cram them all (see point 2).

6. Get a decent PC. A laptop is okay, but if you aren't gonna upgrade it or have plans to convert it into a server of sorts, get a PC.
As for which PC, I have zero idea.

Also is it me or does the font look weird?

airsaylongcome:
@truthcoder learning those tools requires more effort and a lot of patience and perseverance. Setting up a small lab to then orchestrate many servers cost o. A small Lenovo Thinkcentre tiny with a fairly recent i5 processor and say 16Gb of RAM and say 1TB of SSD will set many people back at least ₦150k+ with no immediate rewards. Learning Proxmox for virtualization/containerisation and then going on to learn ansible and terraform will take at least 18 months to gain entry level competence.

I had suggested that this forum's admins spin off a new sub forum dedicated to non-programming tech without much traction on that post. I'm happy were you are trying to take the tech interest to

For a brief moment truthcoder, I thought you were trying to post to a lemmy community with your post title. I don siddon for fediverse tire this last two weeks

airsaylongcome:


Might be you. Font looks good from here. What browser?

Regarding your points, they are well articulated. Many people run away from terminal because it's easier to click around. CLI gives almost god-like powers. Make you come be root user, you go dey do and undo.

Point 4, you'd be surprised at how random bots will come at you for just hosting a server on your LAN. It however offers an opportunity to learn about security and system hardening. God punish all those Russian, Chinese, American and Palestinian bots. Fzcking keep your router fully busy. I've hard to learn router management purely because of these bots. But you get to learn Transferable skills if you can then get to talk about how you are able to manage security as part of keeping your infrastructure always up.

emoboy4u:
So where is the starting point for any of these disciplines. My little research shows that there so many concepts, tools and technologies to learn though the one that stands out is getting comfortable with Linux OS. And some people even assert that DevOps is not an entry level role, they believe that you must have some form of development experience with a touch computer networking to really be useful in the role. Navigating tech can be a hassle!

KrazyDave16:

I know of the bots, read stories of em.

Always wondered how they even know you got a server running

emoboy4u:
So where is the starting point for any of these disciplines. My little research shows that there so many concepts, tools and technologies to learn though the one that stands out is getting comfortable with Linux OS. And some people even assert that DevOps is not an entry level role, they believe that you must have some form of development experience with a touch computer networking to really be useful in the role. Navigating tech can be a hassle!

airsaylongcome:


Waoh! That's interesting!!! What drove your choice for Moodle over say over say openEDX, oLAT, or Canvas?

emoboy4u:
So where is the starting point for any of these disciplines. My little research shows that there so many concepts, tools and technologies to learn though the one that stands out is getting comfortable with Linux OS. And some people even assert that DevOps is not an entry level role, they believe that you must have some form of development experience with a touch computer networking to really be useful in the role. Navigating tech can be a hassle!

truthCoder:
A lot of Nigerian devs and dev wannabes have been focusing on learning how to build websites , web and mobile based applications.

My few years of working mostly remotely has shown that whilst those skills are in high demand, there are other options that we should start considering.

There are jobs in other areas that dont need your JavaScript knowledge, are easy to master and pay better.

First, i would be recommending devops. Most Nigerians don’t know how to use stacks like ansible, terraform, gitlab, bash, etc and there is a lot of remote work here.

I would appreciate if seasoned developers who are not earning majorly from web development can share ideas so that upcoming tech guys wont waste time learning react.js.

niel63:


Devops is definitely NOT and entty level role. Just know this and know peace.
All these CI/CD verbs... who you think say dey use them... Still, it isn't enough to make you a competent devops engineer. It's a combination of both practices and tools for applications and services.

And you know how tedious it can be to master one.
So, devops can never ever be an entry role.

Maxxim:

I'll say recommendations, I tried making some research and I learned it's the most sought after amongst the lms platforms, I believe the more popular the more opportunities.
What are your thoughts sir??

NapoleonHill:


Dey play

niel63:


Devops is definitely NOT and entty level role. Just know this and know peace.
All these CI/CD verbs... who you think say dey use them... Still, it isn't enough to make you a competent devops engineer. It's a combination of both practices and tools for applications and services.

And you know how tedious it can be to master one.
So, devops can never ever be an entry role.

efelico:



100% on point.

Working as a DevOps is not an entry role. It easier to break even in frontend, hard in backend and harder as DevOps. One major mistake as a DevOps kiss your server good bye

efelico:



100% on point.

Working as a DevOps is not an entry role. It easier to break even in frontend, hard in backend and harder as DevOps. One major mistake as a DevOps kiss your server good bye

niel63:


Devops is definitely NOT and entty level role. Just know this and know peace.
All these CI/CD verbs... who you think say dey use them... Still, it isn't enough to make you a competent devops engineer. It's a combination of both practices and tools for applications and services.

And you know how tedious it can be to master one.
So, devops can never ever be an entry role.

KrazyDave16:
I'm on the DevOps path (haven't covered some key stuff like containerization and orchestration proper), it's really stressful, time-consuming and expensive (not necessarily immediately, but as you go further, you will unconsciously have the need to upgrade your hardware)

Tips I can give out to anyone who's interested in learning or already learning is;
1. Embrace the cli (terminal) wholly. If there are some tools with a gui, don't rely too much on it, or don't even rely on it at all.

2. Learn to automate your workflow. Be it via scripts, manifests/cookbooks, cronjobs. No need to cram everything, just automate them, plus time is real important too.

3. Join DevOps, selfhosted and homelab communities. Always found these communities fun and super helpful.

4. Be security conscious. There are lots of attempts to get into your server by bad actors and kids with their bots to do something stupid or something shady.

5. Be consistent. There are a lot of tool to learn, but know that you don't need to cram them all (see point 2).

6. Get a decent PC. A laptop is okay, but if you aren't gonna upgrade it or have plans to convert it into a server of sorts, get a PC.
As for which PC, I have zero idea.

Also is it me or does the font look weird?