Welcome, Guest: Register On Nairaland / LOGIN! / Trending / Recent / New
Stats: 3,153,607 members, 7,820,163 topics. Date: Tuesday, 07 May 2024 at 10:46 AM

ASUU Rejects Curriculum Designed By NUC - Education (3) - Nairaland

Nairaland Forum / Nairaland / General / Education / ASUU Rejects Curriculum Designed By NUC (26010 Views)

ASUU Rejects 35% Salary Increase For Professors; Wants 100% / List Of Illegal Universities Closed Down By NUC- July 2019 / Names Of 58 Illegal Universities In Nigeria Released By NUC - Full List (2) (3) (4)

(1) (2) (3) (4) (Reply) (Go Down)

Re: ASUU Rejects Curriculum Designed By NUC by ebenholer2(m): 8:46pm On Jun 30, 2023
Now It is evident that ASUU are parts of this nation failure and should be scrapped fortwit. Only a daft will fail to know that the standard of education under their watch has become watered, students time is being wasted on cognitive frivolities why their mates excel exponentially in foreign universities. What a pity.
Re: ASUU Rejects Curriculum Designed By NUC by Crystalom35: 8:53pm On Jun 30, 2023
Moneyman01:
Drop your whatsapp number or
Mine:09066766342 message me on whatsapp

sent you a message
Re: ASUU Rejects Curriculum Designed By NUC by ebenholer2(m): 8:54pm On Jun 30, 2023
uncleck:
The entire education system is useless. The most useless of them all is the Nigerian philosophy of education. Our education is neither tailored to meet our peculiar needs nor implemented in the interest of the students.

As a professional educationist, I can boldly state that going beyond JSS3 in Nigeria is a total waste of time and resources
Only a few will understand the facts u are saying...Nigeria is just running a one way traffic type of educational system bastardized by policy makers like ASUU. They are bent at undermining the nation educational system and that is the reason they go against government progressive policies all the time. ASUU ought to be the next to be scrapped honestly.

1 Like

Re: ASUU Rejects Curriculum Designed By NUC by santos247(m): 8:56pm On Jun 30, 2023
Many people are complaining of low quality lecturers, including people who used special centres to ace SSCE/UTME exams. People whose parents and family helped them secure employment via the backdoor.
The poor quality of lecturers in some Universities is a reflection of the wider society. In a country of poor ethics, high unemployment, many are securing lecturing positions to escape the unemployment market. Furthermore, lack of training and resources is a major hindrance to excellence.
BMAS needs a review but it should be championed by all relevant stakeholders. Student representatives, employers and industry players from each discipline need to have input.

3 Likes

Re: ASUU Rejects Curriculum Designed By NUC by ebenholer2(m): 9:03pm On Jun 30, 2023
santos247:


This is false.
I was equally miffed when I saw the new CCMA document. NUC powered Professor Okebukola to embark on the CCMA project. Key stakeholders were engaged at the earlier stages but left out during the critical review and finalisation stages.
This CCMA is one of the anyhowness of our Nigerian system
May I inform you that u are wrong too...it is the right of NUC headship to spearhead any of such review since ASUU has been allotted their portion of duty. I think the known grievances of ASUU should clearly be why they were not given 70% stake too so as to mesmerize the whole process as usual. How can ASUU prove their effectiveness when many graduates are only cognitively developed under their watch while they end up being liabilities to the nation and we have daft in the leadership position of the nation who we see rewarding cognitiveness while creativity are left unrewarded or undermined.
Re: ASUU Rejects Curriculum Designed By NUC by uncleck: 9:03pm On Jun 30, 2023
ebenholer2:

Only a few will understand the facts u are saying...Nigeria is just running a one way traffic type of educational system bastardized by policy makers like ASUU. They are bent at undermining the nation educational system and that is the reason they go against government progressive policies all the time. ASUU ought to be the next to be scrapped honestly.
There is no "progressive government policy" especially in the area of education. Have you analyzed the Nigerian philosophy of education?

1 Like

Re: ASUU Rejects Curriculum Designed By NUC by ebenholer2(m): 9:11pm On Jun 30, 2023
uncleck:

There is no "progressive government policy" especially in the area of education. Have you gone through Nigerian policy on education before?
The Nigeria policy on education should not be strange to me cos I am very much familiar with it. But do u know that such policy was put together by all stakeholders that include many ASUU membership, and its failure was because it was put together under inefficiency, and so it is bound to fail.
Re: ASUU Rejects Curriculum Designed By NUC by tonyshine01: 9:44pm On Jun 30, 2023
Nice one.

Those evil collaborators that populates NUC and NBTE. Implementing satanic curriculum designed by foreign evil elements and using them to foist it on helpless Nigerians.

ASUU should oppose it vehemently.
Re: ASUU Rejects Curriculum Designed By NUC by tonyshine01: 9:45pm On Jun 30, 2023
ebenholer2:
Now It is evident that ASUU are parts of this nation failure and should be scrapped fortwit. Only a daft will fail to know that the standard of education under their watch has become watered, students time is being wasted on cognitive frivolities why their mates excel exponentially in foreign universities. What a pity.


Little Knowledge and little information is dangerous.
Re: ASUU Rejects Curriculum Designed By NUC by bigtt76(f): 9:46pm On Jun 30, 2023
Instead of these ones to go an upskill, they are busy yarning nonsense ...ChatGPT is coming for them all.


DONSMITH123:


https://punchng.com/just-in-ASUU-rejects-curriculum-designed-by-nuc/
Re: ASUU Rejects Curriculum Designed By NUC by tonyshine01: 9:47pm On Jun 30, 2023
ebenholer2:

Only a few will understand the facts u are saying...Nigeria is just running a one way traffic type of educational system bastardized by policy makers like ASUU. They are bent at undermining the nation educational system and that is the reason they go against government progressive policies all the time. ASUU ought to be the next to be scrapped honestly.

ASUU or NUC?

NUC are the evil ones.
Re: ASUU Rejects Curriculum Designed By NUC by Ajibade123(m): 9:49pm On Jun 30, 2023
CodeTemplar:
ASUU may have a point or two but are still a huge bottleneck to good education.
The NUC is too stiff in my opinion and dictating 70% of courses is too high.
Please what does the ccmas and everything mean
Re: ASUU Rejects Curriculum Designed By NUC by tonyshine01: 9:50pm On Jun 30, 2023
ebenholer2:

May I inform you that u are wrong too...it is the right of NUC headship to spearhead any of such review since ASUU has been allotted their portion of duty. I think the known grievances of ASUU should clearly be why they were not given 70% stake too so as to mesmerize the whole process as usual. How can ASUU prove their effectiveness when many graduates are only cognitively developed under their watch while they end up being liabilities to the nation and we have daft in the leadership position of the nation who we see rewarding cognitiveness while creativity are left unrewarded or undermined.


This is system designed and run by foreign influence using the likes of McArthur Foundation, Bill and Melinda Gates foundation to mention a few to implement it.

Are you not seeing g foreign influences now telling Nigerians to learn handwork and not go to school but they can go to abroad so they poach after graduation.

It is a systematic brain drain program.
Re: ASUU Rejects Curriculum Designed By NUC by zeyt: 9:51pm On Jun 30, 2023
I believe the core curriculum should reflect our aspirations as society. The current system has failed due to the fact that it still maintain the elements of colonial system of education bequests to us by Great Britain.
The education system should be skilled based not rote learning. Where you aquired a certificate but can offer nothing of value to your society.
Re: ASUU Rejects Curriculum Designed By NUC by sreamsense: 10:07pm On Jun 30, 2023
Kei144:


This post aptly explains ASUU's position on CCMAS. The Nigerian university system actually lacks competent and talented teachers. Unfortunately, what it will take to have competent and talented teachers is quite complicated. As long as every person is paid same salary, no lecturer will be motivated to develop competency. A situation where every PhD Senior Lecturer is paid the same salary scale. A PhD in Computer Science that has world class certification in software development, machine learning, etc, is paid the same salary with PhD in Sociology without any proven practical competency; why should any lecturer aspire to be practically competent?
This kind your theory has never worked for years. Hiring talented and competent teachers are so easy and not as complicated as you thought. First of all, teaching and lecturing is about passion and not necessarily about money. There are qualify people outside burning with passion to teach even if you pay them N50k per month. Even if you like, pay each teacher with no passion N500 million per month, they will still come back to tell government that the money is not enough without any result to show for it.

Universities are only after title and numbers of theoretical academic papers published without paying attention to talent to teach. What is the essence of hiring a professor or Dr in the university who can't transmit knowledge he/she has acquired over the years to younger generation? Many professors and Drs will teach two hours lecture, but students they teach cann't pick anything useful out of their lectures. If a secondary school student can transfer little knowledge he/she has to others without speaking big grammar, that is a functional professor. To hire competent teachers, let them teach students publicly before they are hired while students cast votes and comment on their ability to teach dullest to understand difficult content given to them.

By the time they are made to teach about five categories of students with varying degrees of assimilation, lecturers that succeed should be hired. Competent lecturers to be hired should have academic qualification, practical industrial experiences and talent to teach even the dullest in the class. Many of ASSU lecturers don't have practical industrial experiences, many have never worked in the industries for one day, but they want to teach students to go to industries they have never been to. How will our education system work?

How many lecturers that are teaching computer science for example have even developed one single application individually that they can currently point to in the market, and they want to graduate another sets of students as future Billgates? You can't give what you don't have! How many salary increment have been done since Obasanjo era with hope that it will make lecturers become more functional? What improvement has increase in salary brought to our educational system than trying to make government bankrupt through persistent strike if national cake is not shared again and again to them? We must change the system, we need passionate and talented teachers and not money oriented teachers

1 Like

Re: ASUU Rejects Curriculum Designed By NUC by uncleck: 10:09pm On Jun 30, 2023
ebenholer2:

The Nigeria policy on education should not be strange to me cos I am very much familiar with it. But do u know that such policy was put together by all stakeholders that include many ASUU membership, and its failure was because it was put together under inefficiency, and so it is bound to fail.
ASUU is just a small part of the education system. They are not responsible for designing education policies. They don't design the curriculum. Them don't produce policy document. So they are just a tiny fraction of the problem

1 Like

Re: ASUU Rejects Curriculum Designed By NUC by na2016: 11:09pm On Jun 30, 2023
dalongjnr:
What matters is the improvement in the quality of what is currently been delivered!

If you have seen the ccmas you will understand that they have watered down education in naija
Re: ASUU Rejects Curriculum Designed By NUC by okoyeizu: 11:16pm On Jun 30, 2023
What do you know about CCMAS? Open mouth to talk rubbish on what you don't know
zangaozanga:
ASUU is part of nigeria education problems,

1 Like

Re: ASUU Rejects Curriculum Designed By NUC by ManOfSon: 11:29pm On Jun 30, 2023
I know something about this CCMASS. ASUU are lying to say they weren't consulted. It's in their character to lie, though.
Re: ASUU Rejects Curriculum Designed By NUC by Mayflowa(m): 12:04am On Jul 01, 2023
NobleSeed:

β€œThe difference here is the bottom-up approach, unlike the top-bottom

Everybody just dey bring him own approach πŸ˜‚ πŸ˜‚
Make una just dey play

Those are project management words.

Bottom-up means detailed/thorough
Top-bottom means scanty/non-thorough
Re: ASUU Rejects Curriculum Designed By NUC by Mayflowa(m): 12:10am On Jul 01, 2023
CodeTemplar:
ASUU may have a point or two but are still a huge bottleneck to good education.
The NUC is too stiff in my opinion and dictating 70% of courses is too high.

Not 70% of courses but 70% of course content. What a course of study should contain. Then 30% can be flexible for innovation for the school or lecturer. I don't feel that is too bad if the core content were thoroughly reviewed. We want every Nigerian student in public and private schools in different regions to have the same academic content. This is more so in professional courses like Medicine, Engineering, Accounting.
Re: ASUU Rejects Curriculum Designed By NUC by Kei144(m): 6:52am On Jul 01, 2023
sreamsense:

This kind your theory has never worked for years. Hiring talented and competent teachers are so easy and not as complicated as you thought. First of all, teaching and lecturing is about passion and not necessarily about money. There are qualify people outside burning with passion to teach even if you pay them N50k per month. Even if you like, pay each teacher with no passion N500 million per month, they will still come back to tell government that the money is not enough without any result to show for it.

Universities are only after title and numbers of theoretical academic papers published without paying attention to talent to teach. What is the essence of hiring a professor or Dr in the university who can't transmit knowledge he/she has acquired over the years to younger generation? Many professors and Drs will teach two hours lecture, but students they teach cann't pick anything useful out of their lectures. If a secondary school student can transfer little knowledge he/she has to others without speaking big grammar, that is a functional professor. To hire competent teachers, let them teach students publicly before they are hired while students cast votes and comment on their ability to teach dullest to understand difficult content given to them.

By the time they are made to teach about five categories of students with varying degrees of assimilation, lecturers that succeed should be hired. Competent lecturers to be hired should have academic qualification, practical industrial experiences and talent to teach even the dullest in the class. Many of ASSU lecturers don't have practical industrial experiences, many have never worked in the industries for one day, but they want to teach students to go to industries they have never been to. How will our education system work?

How many lecturers that are teaching computer science for example have even developed one single application individually that they can currently point to in the market, and they want to graduate another sets of students as future Billgates? You can't give what you don't have! How many salary increment have been done since Obasanjo era with hope that it will make lecturers become more functional? What improvement has increase in salary brought to our educational system than trying to make government bankrupt through persistent strike if national cake is not shared again and again to them? We must change the system, we need passionate and talented teachers and not money oriented teachers

I agree with your points. Nigeria's universities had the best set of lecturers pre-1999 when Obasanjo increased salaries of university workers by about 200 percent. Before that increase, mostly people who were true academic materials were lecturers. Professional disciplines like Engineering, Medicine, Accounting, found it difficult to recruit young lecturers because they preferred to look for jobs elsewhere. When ASUU succeeded in pressuring the government to continually increase salaries, all sorts of people trooped into the lecturing job.

1 Like

Re: ASUU Rejects Curriculum Designed By NUC by Isobug: 9:38am On Jul 01, 2023
Kei144:


I'm quite surprised that ASUU is rejecting CCMAS. CCMAS has whittled down general studies credits from 36 to 12, which thereby creates more room for departments to teach students the main course from first year. The currently existing curriculum fills the first two years with so many irrelevant general studies courses. The University of Nigeria, Nsukka, started the idea of general studies courses; but when I was a UNN student years ago, we only had GS 101, 103, 105 and 207. NUC BMAS adopted GS courses and escalated GS courses to cover 36 credit units, which suffocates the main course of study. In the CCMAS, GS courses cover only 12 credit units, leaving room for more main course credits.
Exactly.....I don't really know what is wrong with the ASUU. when they are needed you won't see them
Re: ASUU Rejects Curriculum Designed By NUC by Lush100(m): 10:03am On Jul 01, 2023
Firstly,
We need to know what was recommended.
We need to know the core values this new recommendation is trying to add to the society.
Then bring these ASUU to critic it and see if it value to the education sector and society
Re: ASUU Rejects Curriculum Designed By NUC by mushroomFarm: 10:27am On Jul 01, 2023
Isobug:
There's nothing I hate like Nigeria Higher institution curriculum.
In Europe,US,Asia and even Some Africa countries, the curriculum start teaching the core and main rudiments of the course in question right from your first semester, first year till graduation but in Nigeria, they will carry all sought of irrelevant courses to load you and leave the main course you came to study.

You are right. Even from preparatory year for medicine we were already learning gastrulation (pregnancy formation) and our courses are only restricted to related medical courses. In first year medicine there are only four courses in each semester...all medical related.
Re: ASUU Rejects Curriculum Designed By NUC by eldeens: 10:44am On Jul 01, 2023
This is to set the record straight!
ASUU is just talking nonsense

Re: ASUU Rejects Curriculum Designed By NUC by eldeens: 10:49am On Jul 01, 2023
Isobug:

Exactly.....I don't really know what is wrong with the ASUU. when they are needed you won't see them

Just ask them who developed the CCMAS?
Academic Professors from different area of specialty were assembled to develop the document who are also members of ASUU.
Re: ASUU Rejects Curriculum Designed By NUC by Isobug: 10:54am On Jul 01, 2023
mushroomFarm:

You are right. Even from preparatory year for medicine we were already learning gastrulation (pregnancy formation) and our courses are only restricted to related medical courses. In first year medicine there are only four courses in each semester...all medical related.
That's it, that's how it should be
Re: ASUU Rejects Curriculum Designed By NUC by kafeii123: 11:01am On Jul 01, 2023
FreeStuffsNG:
ASUU was part of the whole process from start to finish.

No ASUU was not...the NUC(actually Prof. Okebukola) just handpicked the people he knew...to work on the document..the document was itself handed to him by yet to be revealed entities...and he went off to co-opt his friends to dress it up so it will look like it was they who drafted it.... Those ones then finished the thing up with no consultation of.the respective departments that run these programs...and then pronto ..they laid it to universities...with the recent court judgement...the University Senate returns the autonomy over curriculum and other issues...it only needs to meet the minimum standards which must.have been reached by representative from all universities nationwide..not this contractual thing that the NUC shodily did...many department la have been having trouble adjusting to it and it's no surprise
Re: ASUU Rejects Curriculum Designed By NUC by kafeii123: 11:04am On Jul 01, 2023
eldeens:


Just ask them who developed the CCMAS?
Academic Professors from different area of specialty were assembled to develop the document who are also members of ASUU.

This is partly true...that professors assisted with the work... however.. those "professors" we're not nominated by the Universities..they were handpicked based on contact...
I known one who know longer teaches any course in his home university..nor attends lectures anymore....yet was the authority on one of the courses..how do you expect such person to do good work...the other one has been staying overseas for years....yet got the contract too....and did what he understood...that's not.how you come up with curriculum
Re: ASUU Rejects Curriculum Designed By NUC by kafeii123: 11:12am On Jul 01, 2023
Isobug:

Exactly.....I don't really know what is wrong with the ASUU. when they are needed you won't see them

The scope/direction of each university is set by the Senate.... universities are not factories where you just mass produce having fed everyone the same diet...

The Senate in a north eastern uni might prefer their courses tailored to solve their own specific problems more....e.g terrorism.. agriculture..solid minerals etc...while the ones in the s.west wants their curriculum tailored towards trade/commerce more... there's no other country in the world where all the Universitiea teach the same courses and contents..

Applicants are to see the prospectus of.eachnunu..see the courses taught and content.and then decide to apply there or not...

The CCmas is complete hogwash in that area...it might even have been better if NUC had mandated a 20-25% while leaving 75-80% to unis to meander on...but no...folks who have never taught anyone in their life get to decide what must be taught..what's the criteria for employment in NUC..vs what's the one for university lectureship... who's supposed to be more experienced at designing the curriculum

(1) (2) (3) (4) (Reply)

Maduka University, Enugu, In Pictures / Obasanjo Was A Troublesome Student - NOUN Vice-Chancellor / WAEC Result: Meaning Of Held, Witheld, Outstanding And Others

(Go Up)

Sections: politics (1) business autos (1) jobs (1) career education (1) romance computers phones travel sports fashion health
religion celebs tv-movies music-radio literature webmasters programming techmarket

Links: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10)

Nairaland - Copyright © 2005 - 2024 Oluwaseun Osewa. All rights reserved. See How To Advertise. 82
Disclaimer: Every Nairaland member is solely responsible for anything that he/she posts or uploads on Nairaland.