sreamsense:

This kind your theory has never worked for years. Hiring talented and competent teachers are so easy and not as complicated as you thought. First of all, teaching and lecturing is about passion and not necessarily about money. There are qualify people outside burning with passion to teach even if you pay them N50k per month. Even if you like, pay each teacher with no passion N500 million per month, they will still come back to tell government that the money is not enough without any result to show for it.

Universities are only after title and numbers of theoretical academic papers published without paying attention to talent to teach. What is the essence of hiring a professor or Dr in the university who can't transmit knowledge he/she has acquired over the years to younger generation? Many professors and Drs will teach two hours lecture, but students they teach cann't pick anything useful out of their lectures. If a secondary school student can transfer little knowledge he/she has to others without speaking big grammar, that is a functional professor. To hire competent teachers, let them teach students publicly before they are hired while students cast votes and comment on their ability to teach dullest to understand difficult content given to them.

By the time they are made to teach about five categories of students with varying degrees of assimilation, lecturers that succeed should be hired. Competent lecturers to be hired should have academic qualification, practical industrial experiences and talent to teach even the dullest in the class. Many of ASSU lecturers don't have practical industrial experiences, many have never worked in the industries for one day, but they want to teach students to go to industries they have never been to. How will our education system work?

How many lecturers that are teaching computer science for example have even developed one single application individually that they can currently point to in the market, and they want to graduate another sets of students as future Billgates? You can't give what you don't have! How many salary increment have been done since Obasanjo era with hope that it will make lecturers become more functional? What improvement has increase in salary brought to our educational system than trying to make government bankrupt through persistent strike if national cake is not shared again and again to them? We must change the system, we need passionate and talented teachers and not money oriented teachers

BigBlackPreek:
ASUU wahala too much, they were part of the process from the onset

fatboyslym007:
No try rough play there o.
Why you no reject am before it was forced on staffs to work on?

All our sleepless night working on CCMAS.
No try am o...

Just use am for two years before you reject am.
Make Sopona no count scores.

ebenholer2:
Now It is evident that ASUU are parts of this nation failure and should be scrapped fortwit. Only a daft will fail to know that the standard of education under their watch has become watered, students time is being wasted on cognitive frivolities why their mates excel exponentially in foreign universities. What a pity.

gudugudumeje:
Ominous. Lousy and feign quality assurance....

The university community can no more be trusted to operate effectively and efficiently, NUC appears to be saying since 1976. Since then it has started to become obstructive and shortly thereafter both an operator and a regulator to date. What an anti-trust practice? What an antithetical thing NUC does often.

Pro-establishment Okebukola was always there since 1999 to promote distrust in the university system and the intellectual community at large; to the chagrin of all. We can all see the undercover and clever contrivances of Obasanjo's mafia dominated and controlled Nigeria's space in NUC and other institutions of state. Well, university dons as tools and agents of state as reflecting in the declines it has brought the universities, learning and knowledge bases.

Recall that our universities minimum standard used to be the GCE 'ALs'/ HSC equivalent to the preliminary - 001 Level, of the past. Now it has fallen far below such as to draw the uninspiring, unacademically sanitised Northern savages equal to the far superior ones in other places.

Minimum Benchmark(BEME) of the old and today's CCMAS are nothing more than attempts at centralising the university system. Prof. J.F. Ade Ajayi did warn us all in 1988/89; but we are not learning.... Since 1976/77 NUC has degenerated from being a buffering institution that its 1st Executive Chairman, Chief Simeon Adebo made it and supposedly ran it to be; not just one into becoming a way to centralise Nigeria's university system and a terror to good works and obstruction.

CAN WE PLAY SAFE AND DO ENGAGE IN SOUND Univetsirty traditions, practices, tasks, responsibilities and management of Education? But never falling prostrate as NUC has always been making others to do.... And thus teach others by exception tactically and wisely enough. As far possible, NUC has been destroying Nigeria's universities....

gudugudumeje:
Ominous. Lousy and feign quality assurance....

The university community can no more be trusted to operate effectively and efficiently, NUC appears to be saying since 1976. Since then it has started to become obstructive and shortly thereafter both an operator and a regulator to date. What an anti-trust practice? What an antithetical thing NUC does often.

Pro-establishment Okebukola was always there since 1999 to promote distrust in the university system and the intellectual community at large; to the chagrin of all. We can all see the undercover and clever contrivances of Obasanjo's mafia dominated and controlled Nigeria's space in NUC and other institutions of state. Well, university dons as tools and agents of state as reflecting in the declines it has brought the universities, learning and knowledge bases.

Recall that our universities minimum standard used to be the GCE 'ALs'/ HSC equivalent to the preliminary - 001 Level, of the past. Now it has fallen far below such as to draw the uninspiring, unacademically sanitised Northern savages equal to the far superior ones in other places.

Minimum Benchmark(BEME) of the old and today's CCMAS are nothing more than attempts at centralising the university system. Prof. J.F. Ade Ajayi did warn us all in 1988/89; but we are not learning.... Since 1976/77 NUC has degenerated from being a buffering institution that its 1st Executive Chairman, Chief Simeon Adebo made it and supposedly ran it to be; not just one into becoming a way to centralise Nigeria's university system and a terror to good works and obstruction.

CAN WE PLAY SAFE AND DO ENGAGE IN SOUND Univetsirty traditions, practices, tasks, responsibilities and management of Education? But never falling prostrate as NUC has always been making others to do.... And thus teach others by exception tactically and wisely enough. As far possible, NUC has been destroying Nigeria's universities....

eldeens:
If ASUU wants Universities to develop their own curriculum, then they have to amend the law that empowers NUC to lay down minimum academic standards for Nigerian Universities.

And this Curriculum is being developed by drawing professors from different universities and also Universities were asked to send in their inputs for the 70% and the remaining 30% is meant for the universities, in a nutshell the whole curriculum is bieng developed by Universities, NUC was just supervising the process

In the interim, what ASUU were saying is total rubbish.

kafeii123:


This your take ...is a very noxious one to have although I won't fault you....

The job of a university academic is more about Research..than about teaching.....and tell you what...that's the case throughout the world....

It's because of the anyhowness we do in Nigeria... not everyone has to attend a uni....that's why I am so glad with the Studentoan thing the FG is planning...let them introduce fees...so that students who really don't have the passion to learn....will not even bother applying....if you really want to learn...you won't mind borrowing to pay tuition.. because if you care about it enough.. there's no way you will not be able to find a job/create one with the level of expertise you will gain from clearly intentional learning.

Not when you just bandwagin people into classes...most of whom should have simply attended a technical college/polytechnic....give the lecturer excess stress teaching and grading all of them...using inadequate facilities...that you refuse to improve on with funding...yet even pay them peanuts at it....

santos247:
Many people are complaining of low quality lecturers, including people who used special centres to ace SSCE/UTME exams. People whose parents and family helped them secure employment via the backdoor.
The poor quality of lecturers in some Universities is a reflection of the wider society. In a country of poor ethics, high unemployment, many are securing lecturing positions to escape the unemployment market. Furthermore, lack of training and resources is a major hindrance to excellence.
BMAS needs a review but it should be championed by all relevant stakeholders. Student representatives, employers and industry players from each discipline need to have input.

sreamsense:

I beg don't let us keep deceiving ourselves. Universities all over the world from the time immemorial has equal stake for learning and research. Why do they keep competing to admit students if they are interesting only in research? Have you not seen many universities admitting students more than the quotas allotted to them under pretence of part time, DLI and pre-degree even though more than enough candidates choose them as first choice just because of money? Only University of Ibadan made attempt to admit higher percentage of post graduate students and lower percentage of under graduates.

Even regarding researches, how many serious researches have you seen comming from universities in Nigeria? Some of them have been hiding under same fruitless researches for more than 15 years without head or tail while always pretending to have inadequate funds. Most of the so call researches many of them embarked upon are just copy and paste from student projects just to publish local and international journals for promotion purposes. Most of the researches always listed in departmental guide or brochures are useless and just for academic decoration.

Most of those researches are cost effective, but they can't even implement some of them for themselves. There are lots of enterpreneus and talented individual that never spend big money for most of their outstanding researches and innovations which your so called ASUU researchers who have collected billions of naira to fund such researches without result. If a lecturer spends his money to fund research, won't he reap 50% of the benefits later to himself? No industry is ready to waste money over unrealistic researches many universities are claiming funds for, organizations prefer to spend money on individual outstanding researches from talented and enterpreneurs that are beneficial to their companies.

In summary, in teaching; our universities are not doing well and in researches; they are backwards. Entire education system must be restructured and begin to attract someone with educational qualification + industrial experiences + talent to impact younger generation through simple to understand teaching

kafeii123:



Thank you very much ..."Minimum" academic standards....is mandating "70%" of curriculum..."Minimum".?

Secondly...you guys did draw up " professors" but many of those professors were handpicked....many of them are no longer in tune with the current trends/realities of.the fields you handed them....they were not nominated by the Universities....I hope you're getting it...

The damage would have been manageable...if those "contractors" I am sure they got honoraria for the job...were limited to just 25-30%... But no ..you guys gave them a ln entire 70% to tinker with....by the time the material got to the individual Unis to modify....there was very little room to do so.... Curriculum design and development should be done...not even necessarily by a Prof..but at least people who are themselves still teaching in those fields...I know one of the Profs who you guys contacted...he doesn't even have to to 15 first authored publications in the field you guys handed him.... neither does he teach anything in his home university anymore...he has not produced a single PhD student in like 10years now... that should tell you he's not current in the field any longer....yet he gets to work on curriculum design....if you think this is a campaign of calumny by ASUU... simply ask for the minute of the Senate meeting of each university when they discuss this issue..and you'll see it's unanimously against the CCMAS....

I really wish that more thought had been out into this work and that it didn't have this flaw.... although I understand it may have been because ASUU was on strike while you guys were on it...and you may have had a deadline to meet...but the people who laid it on you knew what they were doing.....

Let's hope that the enxt NUC director comes well seasoned and puts more thought into stuff like this

Lastly....the

kafeii123:



Lol...you are not an expert at this thing ...I am telling you with no iota of doubt..that all of your claims are untrue....but I don't blame you for having them....like the Yorubas will say
..it is very easy to with one's mouth cook vegetable soup...you can in 3muns describe all it takes to make vegetable soup....it is foolish to now however believe..that it won't take more than that 3mins ...to cook one.


A University is not a place where you go to be "taught" ....if by that time..you have not yet developed the capacity for independent learning....then you should not have been admitted....that is why your 1st year is mainly a repeat of your high school courses... maybe with some advances here and there...it is to bridge the cap and allow you transition....into university tradition....but remember....in a 1unit course...the lecturer is only required to have 10hours of contact with you throughout the semester. Now tell me...is it possible to in 10hours teach anyone all that a serious branch of a discipline entails?...

This is why the gimmick used to be.. that if a course is 3units load...it means it will ordinarily take you 3hours of study.. for you to fully grasp every hour of lecture you receive e what you were taught

There is no university in the world...where people value teaching...more than research?

sreamsense:

Sorry, you don't need to be an expert before you identify rots in our academic system. I passed through same university system. Forget about that idiotic theory that you are not in university to be taught like secondary school. Motors of many universities around the world revolve round "learning, teaching and character". Only lazy lecturers that should be shown way out of universities always hide under canopy of we are not here to teach. You can see that at least some department still have one or two lecturers that can teach well than their lazy counterparts. Professors and Drs are being paid to transfer knowledge they have gathered over the years to younger generation instead of dying with it for continuity sake, but many of these professors and Drs can't even teach students to understand after delivering their two hours lectures.

Many of these ASUU lecturers don't have industrial experiences, but they want to train students to go to industries they themselves had never worked before. You don't need to be expert before you know such system can't work. Universities will only keep turning out unemployable and skiless graduates on yearly basis of which some of them will turn to kidnappers, robbers and ritualists after frustrations of no job and skills after graduating from universities. We need to change current academic system to prevent future increase in crime.

Even small researches many of the ASUU lecturers can not do, they only copy and adapt student projects to publish most of their so called research papers for local and international journals. You don't expect organizations to waste their hard earn money to fund useless researches comming from many universities. Enterpreneurs and talented individual are comming out with research and innovations that can get attention of organizations to find them, but universities as many as they are can't come out with any reasonable researches. Most of the researches they even got funds for are so useless today that they don't even have head or tail.

Go and research about Harvard Universities, MIT, Oxford etc and check profiles of their lecturers. Many of their lecturers have industrial experiences, many of them have functioning companies producing their research artifacts and they are still lecturing. How won't students get useful skills from such lecturers? Our University systemmisnnot working as it should, you don't need to be and expert before you know that. Academic qualification, industrial experience and talent to teach/transfer knowledge even to the dullest should be hired after sacking and pay off many of ASUU lazy lecturers.

Also, giving lecturing to first class students with no industrial experience should be stopped. It offers us no good. School can monitor them to make sure they come back after getting enough industrial experiences and can transfer their knowledge to younger generation. Many so called first class students did not even do industrial training for instance, they were busy reading and preparing for final year class when their colleagues are doing their SIWES or IT acquiring practical experiences, but school will quickly retain them because they have first class without testing their practical experiences first. Some first class are opportunists not really because they are brilliants. Some of them have full schorlaships, they don't worry about anything, they get money for everything they need in the schools.

They only wake up to read, but you can't compare them with other brilliant fellows in the same class who happen to Hussle for everything like school fees, feeding, house rent and many more while still pursuing full time degrees. Some of them still manage to come out with 2.1 or 2.2, yet many of them are truely intelligent which our grading system can not factor in. If we want to reduce rate of crime in the society, one area to look into and restructure is our universities. It is only when universities give student basics that students will build on them; many ASUU lecturers we currently cann't deliver because they lack practical working experiences

eldeens:


Thank you! But all your claims were based on your personal views or opinion, anyways you are entitled but to set the record straight please read the attached responses from NUC.

kafeii123:




Lastly...I remember the curriculum review issue was done while schools.were on strike......the issues would have been raised earlier if not for that....the BMASS that used to be in use....NUC sometimes get the BMASS from the first university that proposes to run the program....I remember participating in drafting up one some years back....my.rile.on it was quite perfunctory though.
Having not been a Prof yet...but still
..the curriculum was rich enough to reflect the current trend....and it was developed not just by the department's staff..but was also done with staff att he universities directorate of.academic planning..and the center for research and development.... there's no way you won't get something more robust that way...things of this nature can not be done by few heads....


I hope all parties involved find common ground to this matter.....that CCMAS is really too light and unfit for purpose...as it currently is....you then have more weight given to thenl 70% that are so unrelated to the disciplines....while.the real courses that form the discipline..have to be squeezed into a 30% that gives them very little weight.....

ebenholer2:

May I inform you that u are wrong too...it is the right of NUC headship to spearhead any of such review since ASUU has been allotted their portion of duty. I think the known grievances of ASUU should clearly be why they were not given 70% stake too so as to mesmerize the whole process as usual. How can ASUU prove their effectiveness when many graduates are only cognitively developed under their watch while they end up being liabilities to the nation and we have daft in the leadership position of the nation who we see rewarding cognitiveness while creativity are left unrewarded or undermined.