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Re: PEPT: Why Did Wole Olanipekun Ignore Osun Ruling To Quote Shagari Ruling Of 1979 by ebufa: 4:06pm On Jul 17, 2023
ppogba:


So, it is only in Yorubaland that they have long suffering masses in the whole of Nigeria?

Good evening sir.


Many yorubas have a higher than life expecation of Tinubu based on filial and tribal affliation....so ?
Re: PEPT: Why Did Wole Olanipekun Ignore Osun Ruling To Quote Shagari Ruling Of 1979 by 84mgve27: 4:39pm On Jul 17, 2023
adanny01:


Your post is clever by half.

If Judges can be retired or appointed by Tinubu, the same judges can be retired or appointed by PO if they make him the president.

But Obi has to be sworn in first and the only person that can allow that is the president! The same judges that ordered Kanu released and nothing happened? They'll now order the president to remove himself! With what army or police will they enforce it? Nigerian presidency is ridiculously too powerful with virtually no checks and balances, aside the fact the judges themselves are APC politicians (never mind the pretence - u have to be to be appointed by APC)
Re: PEPT: Why Did Wole Olanipekun Ignore Osun Ruling To Quote Shagari Ruling Of 1979 by adanny01(m): 5:06pm On Jul 17, 2023
84mgve27:


But Obi has to be sworn in first and the only person that can allow that is the president! The same judges that ordered Kanu released and nothing happened? They'll now order the president to remove himself! With what army or police will they enforce it? Nigerian presidency is ridiculously too powerful with virtually no checks and balances, aside the fact the judges themselves are APC politicians (never mind the pretence - u have to be to be appointed by APC)

Complete falsehood, if supreme court declares Obi president, Tinubu ceases to be President immediately and Obi will be secured immediately and sworn in.

What happened when Yaradua died is exactly what will happen.

Did Tinubu put himself there, The same person who swore Tinubu will swear in anyone the supreme court declares as the president.

Stop sharing ignorance.

You dare not compare Nnamdi Kanu's case with Presidential election tribunal.
Re: PEPT: Why Did Wole Olanipekun Ignore Osun Ruling To Quote Shagari Ruling Of 1979 by 84mgve27: 5:48pm On Jul 17, 2023
adanny01:


Complete falsehood, if supreme court declares Obi president, Tinubu ceases to be President immediately and Obi will be secured immediately and sworn in.

What happened when Yaradua died is exactly what will happen.

Did Tinubu put himself there, The same person who swore Tinubu will swear in anyone the supreme court declares as the president.

Stop sharing ignorance.

You dare not compare Nnamdi Kanu's case with Presidential election tribunal.

My friend you're talking about la la land, not real life.
There is PRECEDENT in Nigeria for delays in enforcing SC rulings.
There is no such precedent in a country like,say, USA.
Nigeria copied the American presidential system without having any of the things that keep the American president in check - such that not a single American president has ever delayed enforcement of a SC rulling.
The same thing that delayed enforcement of other SC rulings would also delay removal of the president until the decision is magically reversed. That's real life!
Yes, Tinubu did not put himself there, but once he is there, he's the only one who can remove himself - because he alone controls enforcement (military and police) and his total loyalists are in charge of them!
Anyway, all this is moot because, like I said, it is virtually IMPOSSIBLE those judges will rule Tinubu did not win the election!
Re: PEPT: Why Did Wole Olanipekun Ignore Osun Ruling To Quote Shagari Ruling Of 1979 by achimendy(m): 5:52pm On Jul 17, 2023
donphilopus:


Same Oluwole graduate, Wole Olanipekun won Buhari's case in 2019 for him. Your so-called Livy Uzoukwu - who's Obi's lead counsel today - represented Atiku then and Olanipekun took him to the cleaners with his legal prowess.

I know you're too young to know this but Google is there for you to confirm.


How do you expect Atiku and his lawyers led by livy uzuokwu to get fair judgement when Buhari replaced Walter onnoghen with a tribal bigot, sentimental, inept and religious fanatic like tanko Muhammad as the chief judge of Nigeria?
Re: PEPT: Why Did Wole Olanipekun Ignore Osun Ruling To Quote Shagari Ruling Of 1979 by Vitally123: 7:33pm On Jul 17, 2023
Perhaps they forgot that the most recent is 1999 constitution as amended, and Not 1979 outdated; so, it may be okay to remind them.
Re: PEPT: Why Did Wole Olanipekun Ignore Osun Ruling To Quote Shagari Ruling Of 1979 by adanny01(m): 7:40pm On Jul 17, 2023
84mgve27:


My friend you're talking about la la land, not real life.
There is PRECEDENT in Nigeria for delays in enforcing SC rulings.
There is no such precedent in a country like,say, USA.
Nigeria copied the American presidential system without having any of the things that keep the American president in check - such that not a single American president has ever delayed enforcement of a SC rulling.
The same thing that delayed enforcement of other SC rulings would also delay removal of the president until the decision is magically reversed. That's real life!
Yes, Tinubu did not put himself there, but once he is there, he's the only one who can remove himself - because he alone controls enforcement (military and police) and his total loyalists are in charge of them!
Anyway, all this is moot because, like I said, it is virtually IMPOSSIBLE those judges will rule Tinubu did not win the election!

It's the supreme court that will declare it and its the CJN who is the head of the Supreme court that will act on it. Not the police, military or anyone. Whatever order that will come from Tinubu is null and void after the pronouncement from SC. As soon as Obi makes himself available to the CJN, he will be sworn in without delay.

Why do you guys always think like kids. You are comparing a constitutional to a criminal case. Kanu's case can end today and DSS can arrest him at the gate of the court with a different charge.

When Imo governor was removed, how long did it take to swear in new governor? Go find out the almost dozen times a government is removed by court.

The only reason that this case has already failed is because it is genuinely lacking of merit.

What's is Obi asking for?

He won? He came 3rd
Nullify election? That's absurdly impossible
Tinubu a drug baron? Prove it
...
Bla bla bla

Grow up
Re: PEPT: Why Did Wole Olanipekun Ignore Osun Ruling To Quote Shagari Ruling Of 1979 by 84mgve27: 7:58pm On Jul 17, 2023
adanny01:


It's the supreme court that will declare it and its the CJN who is the head of the Supreme court that will act on it. Not the police, military or anyone. Whatever order that will come from Tinubu is null and void after the pronouncement from SC. As soon as Obi makes himself available to the CJN, he will be sworn in without delay.

Why do you guys always think like kids. You are comparing a constitutional to a criminal case. Kanu's case can end today and DSS can arrest him at the gate of the court with a different charge.

When Imo governor was removed, how long did it take to swear in new governor? Go find out the almost dozen times a government is removed by court.

The only reason that this case has already failed is because it is genuinely lacking of merit.

What's is Obi asking for?

He won? He came 3rd
Nullify election? That's absurdly impossible
Tinubu a drug baron? Prove it
...
Bla bla bla

Grow up


You are talking like an idiot who doesn't live in real life Nigeria. Visualize, the SC quickly declares xyz president. Tinubu is in Aso Rock and refuses to leave. Then what?
Same "then what" that happened other times president refused to obey.
Governors don't control any enforcement - can even have their security dentail withdrawn while still in office. Stop talking like an idiot!
Re: PEPT: Why Did Wole Olanipekun Ignore Osun Ruling To Quote Shagari Ruling Of 1979 by TollinsN: 8:39pm On Jul 17, 2023
In law you can quote judgement of any case since independence if you are sure there is a hidden lacuna in the constitution that you can use to unsettle the quotes of the constitution itself. It is allowed.
It will be stupid to quote judgement of Osun's case because the judgement have not been put to judicial test using similar situation
Re: PEPT: Why Did Wole Olanipekun Ignore Osun Ruling To Quote Shagari Ruling Of 1979 by OChimex: 10:23pm On Jul 17, 2023
seunmsg:


Let me guess, the lawmakers budgeting whatever for themselves are all Yoruba ronu APC members, right? There is no Igbo, SS, Hausa, Labour Party, PDP, APGA members among them, right?

The point is, Nigeria needs a leader who will put a stop to this broad daylight robbery and not support it. Enough is enough. Besides, all the key positions are all held by the ruling party or appointed by the president.
Re: PEPT: Why Did Wole Olanipekun Ignore Osun Ruling To Quote Shagari Ruling Of 1979 by fritiyo: 11:48pm On Jul 17, 2023
DaddyCoool:
This case is NOT about what is the law. It is about who are the judges. ALL these judges were appointed by APC and can be retired by Tinubu who also has the power to appoint them - and have whoever he appoints swiftly confirmed by the APC senate.
Bottom line, this is a kangaroo trial


Pls stop lying on national frame, Tinubu does not have powers to appoint judges, he only confirm the chief justice of the federation. Judges are appointed by the judiciary council of Nigeria and NBA.
Re: PEPT: Why Did Wole Olanipekun Ignore Osun Ruling To Quote Shagari Ruling Of 1979 by Rikov(m): 1:58am On Jul 18, 2023
Go n sleep. Your write up is trash.
1999 constitution is what we use today. Every recent amendment done was on it. Citing Awolowo n Shagari's case showed us that Olanikpekun is only being professional. He should have some straw of hope for his client to hang on. That's exactly what he's doing.

Adeleke vs Oyetola is the most recent executive case. Why didn't he cite it?
Maybe he should have cited Uzodinma vs Ihedioha 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.

Your lord is going to make history as the first Nigerian president to be booted out of office✅

chatinent:
It’s actually a smart move. Wole is not a charge and bail lawyer! He actually allows you to make his win very easy!

Let's think it. When he does use outdated case laws, he’ll be reminded, maybe by the other counsel that the 1979 constitution was already amended and he should introduce recent cases similar...just like you are asking. To the other counsel, he made a point. Which other recent case would all fingers point to? It is the Adeleke vs Oyetola to be used as precedent!


Now here is where the politics take place… and what you don't know. Actually, the Adeleke vs Oyetola was created for this case. So Wole let you decide for them to use it. And since you gave them the option, they introduce it as tho standing on the recent protocol you suggested.

Guess what? Since you want to feel more recent with cases, the case will be closed and they will win. If you suggested a recent case, and that case is introduced, you WILL lose the case! You just gave them their evidence!

Why did you think the APC let Adeleke win the case based on INEC glitches?

Oh you felt it was a just judgement? And that the APC will just let go sth as big as the governorship? A sitting party? Lol.


It’s so that it will serves as a premise to dismiss the future plan…. this case.

It's was an organised case law.

Let's check:

The APC-led administration has been subject to criticism due to the economic challenges experienced during their tenures. True.

However, it is noteworthy that they have demonstrated adeptness in engaging in strategic political maneuvers, leveraging their party networks, and creating an illusion of popular participation in decision-making processes. Meanwhile, it is all a mirage in achieving the goal!

Even the Naira design was a plan to make other parties feel there was disunity within the party and they loss guard and failed to plan.

Obi too was banking on popular participation and pity politics. He should have added some backup dark politics too. Oh don't criticize me, politics was always darker.

Check the APC's darker politics. Call it politics 101.

During the past electoral process, a strategy is employed wherein a divisive narrative is constructed, leading to the formation of factions and subsequent tribal conflict....the Igbo-Yoruba tribal war, the Wike-pdp war, and the Kwankwaso assisting to reduce the northern votes.

During the period of tribal conflict between the Yorubas and Igbos, the candidate affiliated with the LP experienced an unexpected defeat in a situation where they were initially considered to have a significant likelihood of emerging victorious.

Check!

Consider the reasons behind the cessation of the overheated tribal conflict subsequent to the victory! The Yorubas were convinced by the APC...the sitting government... that an individual (Lagos indigene) was of mixed heritage and was not considered a genuine Yoruba and instead was associated with the Igbo agenda. I mean, like how did you guys believe that unintelligible tact! So poor!

A significant number of individuals were deceived or say convinced that truly it was Igbos trying to take Lagos...so they fought back, resulting in the government reverting back to its previous state. Lol. The game was the focal point for the APC and they got it.


During elections, we are not Nigerians, we name our states first!

Let's continue...

The LP also was winning the presidential election. They employed the use of commotion in the LP strongholds, and when they saw it wasn't really working cos they were winning Lagos, Aduja, Jos etc, their plan-B was the last hope... EyeNeck !

It was also necessary to adjust the LP's score to the third position to have a better legal case in case.


They banked on the corrupt system. Why? "NOTHING WILL HAPPEN.". That's Nigeria for you! Nothing always not happen to the rich in Nigeria!

Also, don't you forget that the British never stopped colonising Nigeria. They only relocated to their country. It's cost-effective and easier to control pawns from a distance! Like no one will know it's neo-colonialism!


And guess what? The British always supports their pawns!


You see? Democracy isn't never of the people and by the people or for the people. It is actually what the govt wants and the people sees from far. In reality, the majority decisions do not always count!


Re: PEPT: Why Did Wole Olanipekun Ignore Osun Ruling To Quote Shagari Ruling Of 1979 by omooba74(m): 8:51am On Jul 18, 2023
THUMPS UP.The truth is bitter but they wont reason with you,most of them had been blindfolded by hatred and ethnic bitterness.Only the wise and sane people know that the last presidential election was one of the freest and fairest election ever conducted in Nigeria...
sangresan:
And even a toddler knows that the last presidential election was the best in the history of this country bar the rigmarole from Wike in Rivers State. If APC wanted to rig in their strongholds, they would have rigged for Tinubu in Lagos, just like Obi padded his votes in core Igbo states.

There was no way APC would have planned to rig and they would have left Osun and Lagos out their plans. No way.

Let's even assume that the election was rigged. The question is: if the election is reconducted 1000 times, will Obi be able to secure votes in the Northwest, Northeast, Southwest (outside Lagos) and Kwara? Obi cannot secure 18% of total votes in any of those states. His ambition remains a pipe dream.
Re: PEPT: Why Did Wole Olanipekun Ignore Osun Ruling To Quote Shagari Ruling Of 1979 by DonaldGenes(m): 10:52pm On Jul 18, 2023
Hisbah:
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Re: PEPT: Why Did Wole Olanipekun Ignore Osun Ruling To Quote Shagari Ruling Of 1979 by DaddyCoool: 4:28am On Aug 24, 2023
fritiyo:



Pls stop lying on national frame, Tinubu does not have powers to appoint judges, he only confirm the chief justice of the federation. Judges are appointed by the judiciary council of Nigeria and NBA.

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