Christistruth00:



The Awujale himself who told you the Story is of Oyo Ancestry

it was because he didn't like the fact that Alaafin was above him in the Oba hierarchy that he came out with that

pre Oduduwa histrory

The first Awujale was an Oyo Ilari ( Palace Official) who was sent by the Alaafin to Settle down in the middle of two Ijebu communities

that where battling each other over a piece of Territory

Because of the high regard both communities had for Alaafin , neither of them passed the Ilaris new residence in the middle

of both communities to attack the other again

Over the years the Ilari became the recognised head of both communities out of the respect both had for him

That was how the first king of Ijebu Ode came to be called Awujale ( The Settler of the Land dispute)


i would advise you to humbly apply to your neighbours the Igala, Ijaw and the Edo to supply what they know about your History and start from there to compile and truthfully build a Comprehensive History of your People instead of attacking the History of others all day long

it was the Pre Oduduwa Ijebus who were already around Lagos in the 9th Century that the Awujale was referring to as being from Sudan but Oduduwa and his Princes united all those they met on ground

The Ijebus were generally Aborigines that Oduduwa met on ground who later adopted mainly the Oduduwa Princes as their Obas

Almost all their Monarchs descended from Oduduwa

Gajagojo:


There. Is nothing like

THE IJEBU
There are dozens of different Ijebu groups and there was never a time when they were all under the Awujale.
The claim that THE IJEBU Neo not trace ancestry to IleIfe is false
if indeed the Awujale said so he can only speak for Ijebu Ode

Stoplying:

Go and seek the help of a psychiatrist. You are delusional.

successmatters:
So much division and confusion in one tribe.

Wahabfuture:




Enough of your lies, who do this to you guys ? Ile-Ife, Ijebu-Ode, Ijebu Imosan and the rest are one, maybe you need to be in Ijebu-ode during Agemo festival, you see all these dozens of different Ijebu groups you are talking about are all there with their masquerades representing each villages at Fidipote round about. quit reading propaganda history, I am not omo Ijebu but i know a lot about them and I can speak Ijebu Language

Stoplying:

My origin is irrelevant as I present evidence which doesn't care about my origin.
The map was published in 1747 and it was made by people who witnessed that era of time, unless you have magical powers to know better than them what you did not witness and which they did witness, you have to change the way you think in order to adapt to reality rather than changing reality in order to adapt to the way you think. Many places which you call kingdom today were either not created in 1747 or were mere villages part of other kingdoms then. You guys in Nigeria have a bad idea of the concept of time, you believe that whatever you can see today has always existed (and in that form)
This guy dared ask me if the precolonial map was costume made for Benin 🤣

https://uniquemaps.eu/products/rare-old-map-of-africa-1747-by-emanuel-bowen-pre-colonial-handcoloured-slave-trade-negroland-ethiopia-barbary-nubia

TajuDEENaMao:

Be warned! I'm not here for your silly ethnic slurs. If you continue derailing my thread I won't have any option than making your life miserable. I'm not just your average Nairalander but a core traditionalist. If you think you're invisible then wait till you get smoked out by any means necessary.

Jeyun:
but we have Sudan ijebu Yoruba the inferior Yorubas claiming lagosians

Stoplying:

My origin is irrelevant as I present evidence which doesn't care about my origin.
The map was published in 1747 and it was made by people who witnessed that era of time, unless you have magical powers to know better than them what you did not witness and which they did witness, you have to change the way you think in order to adapt to reality rather than changing reality in order to adapt to the way you think. Many places which you call kingdom today were either not created in 1747 or were mere villages part of other kingdoms then. You guys in Nigeria have a bad idea of the concept of time, you believe that whatever you can see today has always existed (and in that form)
This guy dared ask me if the precolonial map was costume made for Benin 🤣

https://uniquemaps.eu/products/rare-old-map-of-africa-1747-by-emanuel-bowen-pre-colonial-handcoloured-slave-trade-negroland-ethiopia-barbary-nubia

Jeyun:
but we have Sudan ijebu Yoruba the inferior Yorubas claiming lagosians

Neckpresser101:


Ode Where is negroland?

Neckpresser101:

Do you know nsịbịdị writing are dated more than 2000 BC


Do you know Igbo-ukwu arts are dated more than 2000 BC?


Come let's discuss history


I'm well grounded at it

successmatters:


Lies.
Emir of ilorin told us who the osu are. They can't even practise their faith inside Yorubaland.

Gajagojo:
do not argue like a fool

Ijebu extend beyond Ogun State.into Lagos State
There are riverine Ijebu as well . E.g that have a lot in. common with Ijaw and Ilaje in worshipping water deities
Rather than talking Nonsense why not address my claim that not all Ijebu are under the Awujale of Ijebu Ode e.g Epe and Ikorodu which is even bigger than Ijebu Ode

The claim that all Ijebu do not trace origin to Ile Ife is ignorant. Many do
Whether the Awujale said so or not

If you are Yoruba you would know the role of Ifa as a custodian in Yoruba history.
Ifa is clear it is not just Yoruba but ALL human life started in Ile Ife

omohayek:

This brazenly obvious Igbo troll is no doubt the same one who created that ridiculous puppet account called "Razakkk" or something similar, under which he has spent so much effort trying to artificially fan the flames of religious conflict by insinuating there's some sort of Islamic plot to take over Yorubaland. Anyone who spends all his days and nights attempting to sow division in another man's land is clearly in need of serious professional help.

These Igbo clowns are the first to claim someone or other is obsessed with their barren little enclave of insecurity, but they have nothing better to do than start lame troll threads anyone with an IQ above 80 can recognize for what they are.

Stoplying:

So you read "negroland" on a MAP!!!!! and proceeded to ask me where negroland is.
Are you dumb ?

Neckpresser101:


You're the Dumbo here?

Who is negroland?

We saw Benin there and others who are negroland ode



Stupid illiterate liar

Stoplying:

I seriously think you know nothing about history, if you did know anything then you would know that you have to present evidence and not just make claims like an illiterate.

Stoplying:

If you had any brain cells, then you would realize that according to the map, negroland refers to a region spread across several countries which the people of the 18th century referred to as negroland.
The fact I have to give this explanation only shows your total lack of common sense.

I have no inside knowledge to the map, indeed I was not born in the 1700s, yet I have to explain the obvious to a person who has eyes like me and who has a brain like me ... You are basically mentally a baby who needs to be spoon fed.

And now like the stvpid slowpoke you are, you are asking me "who is negroland?". Who did this to you ? Who made you extremely dumb?

Stoplying:
Why is nairaland filled with uneducated and arrogant fanatics who believe they know better ?

TajuDEENaMao:
Whenever you read the account of the Ijebu people about their origin they usually insist they are not from Ile-Ife, as history presents it.

They always trace their history to Sudan.,

Creeper:


Stop posting nonsense and learn how to separate factual history from political revisionism.