Gerrard59:


If OP moves to any of those countries, he will earn more than he currently does. That is my point. It is not a lie. This is a verifiable fact anywhere. The tech industry cares less about the certificate, and more about the skill and relevant certification one possesses.

Desusi:

My argument is not about the salary they will offer while taken tech job,but for a J J C from Nigeria who is yet to get permanent stay,who may be asylum seeker, or side hustle, where on earth would he has access to the computer tech job you're talking about.ln effect, what l am saying is that, this golden opportunity is because he is a Nigerian. Haven't you heard lots of degree holders and professionals doing menial jobs in abroad for years, before he would be allowed to practise his job.In most cases,you would register first with ministry of works. You do not go from one place to another looking for job as if you're in Ikeja or apapa or Lagos island.

alphabbey1:

You are just lying. If you acquire your property in the right way with your lawyer by your side, nobody's dragging it with you.... Stop feeding yourself with lies.....

And unless your plan is to live in that country you are saving in its currency, you have no business saving in that currency... buying land in a developed area should be your best bet.... if you make a move to buy dollar at 870 it is now, This goverment can just bring a policy to drag the rate down to 600+, Exchange rate is not immune to coming down...

Think of how much people that bought dollar at 860 last year October lost when the rate went down to 730....

bdon12:

Its worth it.i personally have spent over 4 mil trying to japa wit my family bt canada don deny us visa twice therefore u giv up

Klass99:

Thank you so much Klass! I sincerely appreciate. In all honesty, I have fears that these jobs don't last forever and is not guaranteed. Secondly, is Naira going to be stable in the nearest future?

Gerrard59:


If those are your reasons for japa, then it is pointless. You are better off in Nigeria. Just save at least 50% of your salary in dollar terms, study the areas you intend to start a business, don't succumb to lifestyle inflation aka buying a car, moving to an expensive neighbourhood - just live the way you are with some slight improvements etc.

Just prepare for the worst, so always be on guard regarding your finances.

DanielsParker:
Just thinking how I would pull out 8-10 million to leave Nigeria. I also ask myself the same thing.

AllenSpencer:


Whats your age?
Do you want to japa legally or illegally?

hazinibones:


I am 28. Legally.

AllenSpencer:


Good plan. If you do that, the sky is your limit.

Plan very well!

Don’t sell assets to relocate. Dispose liabilities and use cash at hand.

IbeOkehie:


If one is migrating LEGALLY, that's actually the strongest reason to sell assets in Nigeria and convert to hard currency. Assets in Nigeria tend to lose value. This is plain to see, it's continually happening in real time. I think maybe everyone needs to think of ACTUAL ASSETS like stocks & shares, land and buildings and do the comparison. Compare the price appreciation of assets in Nigeria and US/UK/Canada over the past 10, 15 or 20 years, anyone who owns both can easily tell you which gained more value.

Worst of all, no one has legal title to any land in Nigeria. Property rights are tenuous and easily contested. I know, I know....go read the Constitution and the Land Use Act. Ignorance is very convenient and comfortable, I know.

Good Luck to everyone.

Gerrard59:



The MT man you are replying to worked in the oil industry in Nigeria and later relocated to the US, Texas specifically. This is someone who complained that he and his Nigerian colleagues were looked down upon when they were in Nigeria. He stated everything here on Nairaland. His eyes opened when he moved to the US. Thus, he is an American citizen. He would lie that having a second passport is not important, but will not consider that travelling even for the wealthy these days is not easy as visas get denied. That's where the passport comes from.

It is this hypocritical wickedness that I detest. The same man has this innate envy towards Ednut1, which I cannot comprehend. He lied through his fingers that Canadians and Mexicans cannot work in the US even though every bloke knows what a TN visa is for. The same man believes Ednut1 dey wash corpses in Canada. Worst of it, the same MT man campaigned and supported Tinubu during the last elections.

In my books, anyone who supported Tinubu is a wicked and terrible person considering the events before and after the elections.

tosinhtml:


Wow thanks for the exposure, may God deliver us from chameleons on this platform.

Every body knows how a strong passport can affect careers. Infact UK has started banning Caribbean countries from Visa free entries because some Namibians are abusing the free visa. They are closing every possible loophole.

alphabbey1:
if they are denying you based on hometies, you should have apply alone and use family as hometies. If based on assets and financial reason and the money is there for real, you should have pay 1 year tuition and do GIC... I belive those are the 2 main reason for disapproval... the career progression own is very much avoidable

michlins:
you know that you can just be on your own in a mall and someone will open fire and you will become statistics

lordchiz:

Na that one be say u don hammer quickly....
My babe elder sis is also a citizen there.....Na wetin she use atleast dey send a thousand dollar every months for her siblings here to jollificate.....
Sometimes she get contract from neighbours to cook Nigerian dishes or even normal dishes like fried rice, jollof, coconut rice and so on....
Food biz Na hot cake most especially in the US

Love800:
Tankz.

That means its only the nigeria people there that patronize her, right?

And she is just a caterer dat cooks for homes and do delivery for them, right?

hazinibones:
Hello Nairalanders,

I have this decision bothering me. I know it is a personal problem, but I believe everyone need some guidance at every point in life.

Straight to it, I have been considering Japa for over two years now and I think the opportunity might be here but I am having a cold feet.

I recently started working for a foreign company as a software engineer and the pay is decent when converted to Naira. Enough to live an averagely comfortable life. But my challenge now is that, I have been talking to some friends that are outside the country and they keep telling me how life is not easy there and cost of living is super expensive out there.

I currently earn $3000, which I plan to either save and travel or startup a business here in Nigeria. Please, Nairalanders with experience, is it worth japa to live an almost average life for almost the rest of your life or investing here in Nigeria and growing wealth?

The healthcare and quality education benefit is there as an advantage for japa though.

Thanks in advance for your responses!

lordchiz:

Not just Nigerian....
Fried rice and every other rice is a general food...
She can do some other confectioneries too....
And yes ....she receives and orders and deliver them too......
But I know of some other persons who opened restaurants......and they were making a hell of money!
From what I learnt.....food biz is lucrative there no matter the kind of one you decide to stick with(African or General type of food)...
Do you plan to do that over there?

Love800:
Tankz

Yes dat is my plan.

But na suya i sabi do.

Will suya sell over there?

lordchiz:

Over sef

theamazonguru:


I laugh in Spanish.
If the guy doesn't know what he is doing,he won't be able to account for those millions.

I know someone who works with Shell as a full staff for years.
Oga dey collect big money, that money enter his head, na so the guy dey show off, live extravagant, travel out on vacation every year, yet he doesn't have a piece of land even after over 15 years of working with Shell.

Yes people will envy him because he drives nice cars, lives in a lovely estate, but oga no get anything to secure his future.

People act differently when they get access to funds they never thought was possible, they keep saying the source is always there and it will keep coming.

I once got a contract job that paid 150k monthly, with 2k daily out station allowance paid, there was this my colleague Paul. This guy makes sure he spends that 2k everyday because he believes it is his due and another one will be paid the next day.
After 10 months of earning 150k/month, 2k daily,this guy could not account for what he did with his income.
He was arguing with me that we haven't collected UpTo 10 months salary.

Meanwhile from that same income, I bought my first land, started building it.
This was 12 years ago.

I have another guy who earn 600k monthly, dude will still come and borrow money before the next salary comes. This has been his habit.

So do you think this guy despite earning $3k can not also fall in the same category with these guys ?

Dey play.

Love800:
Can one start a business in abroad?

I thought it was only employment jobs that exist there.

Lotechi:
That was wrong thinking. Immigrants are known to start businesses here in the U.S.

IbeOkehie:


The Land Use Act is the LAW, many have lost control of lands pursuant to it. There's no right to property in Nigeria, all land in Nigeria belongs to Government.

As for dollar losing value against dollar.....in 1990 the exchange rate was 4 per $1. Check it today.

Bye.

Treadway:
you see that bolded line/lie, it is quite amazing how most of you japa geng on nairaland tend to use that line/lie, suggesting that y'all seem to be surrounded by people with low self esteem, or just so dim-witted that they can't manage their lives as adults. If all you guys have friends like that, na horrible bunch you dey roll with o. I brought in three cars at once sometime in 2021, and couldn't sell even one on time, so in no time I was pressed for funds, but even tho my account don red, I no get the mind to ask anyone for money, cos I am an adult with self-respect and dignity. I sold off a pair of brand new tires I had earlier bought and some other items in my store that I could let go off, as in I hauled them in my car and drove to the respective market areas where I could sell them and raised about 70k that day that kept me going till I sold one of the cars and got my millions back. Na una dey always seem to get friends wey na beggars and financial illiterates...or as you claim were doing fine but turned beggers cos they stayed in Nigeria and now una wey travel na im dey feed them.. ludicrous!

Like 15 of una don comment with this same line/lie of having hungry friends that were doing okay before but now begging you for crumbs. Def na kindergarteners be ya friends, def not adults with any common sense or wisdom bo ti wu ko kere mo! Jeez!

Dijita:


Your response shows that you are a kid that is yet to know life. Asking for help is not lack of dignity. If you are doing great as you claimed to be and not known to be stingy you would have had one or two people among your friends that have fall on hard times reaching out to you for help.
I was poor and many of my friends were poor. We came from very humble background. Some of them are directors and executives today and many are still struggling to makes ends meet. It does not means they don't have self respect, it is life. Lucky you for the challenge you have in life is a cashflow problem, it does not make you better than us. As you age you will understand that asking for help from one friend does not makes one to be a beggar. Yoruba said it is who you sleep in the same bed with that you will disturb when you roll on the bed.
here is an example of my "lie"

Treadway:
your rebuttal was way too simplistic and inchoate (I had worse adjectives earlier, but decided to show decorum and modified it appropriately). It actually makes me much better, cos unlike you and your friends I take responsibility for my life, decisions, actions and inactions. Moreso, the core premise of your futile rant and others like you sharing that lie and my response earlier is that you ALL implied your friends are begging you for money today simply because they didn't japa like you yesterday, and not based on the fact that life can turn at anytime for anyone anywhere!! See the obvious difference?? Well newsflash, it isn't cos of that, upon scrutiny it is majorly cos of deficit in common sense. Barring a major illness or morbidity that you have no control over that can wipe out anyone's finances, fix culpability where it is.

Your comment below
I left Nigeria at 29. I was working for one of the top federal parastatals and making good money. I worked many odd jobs for the first six years of my arrival before getting professional job. Even then, I never regret my decision leaving the country. Many of my former colleagues are calling me for help today.

Pele o helper general of the federal republic...and yea I do help others WHEN I FEEL LED TO even though I myself hate to bother anyone in my own moments, but thankfully I don't use their struggle in an argument online as to why an individual that opened a thread about staying or leaving a remote job on nairaland should hop on plane so he 'doesn't end up like your friends begging their abroad friends for money'..lol..

How so graciously selfless of you.👍👏

Ciao!

Dijita:


You are better than me and my friend . Good for you. Thank you very much. If you are looking for who to fight move on. I am not here to fight. I don't blame you for your interpretation of my post. It is the way you see life. Yes there are many people I know who had the opportunity to Japa, failed to use the opportunity and regretted it. That is a common knowledge in Nigeria. I was giving the young man that made the post an advise base on my life experience. if you interpreted that as mocking people that is your cup of tea.