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Did Murtala Truly Commit A Massacre In Asaba ? by DomPerignon: 11:19am On Jul 30, 2023
No.

It was more of extra-judiciary killings and not an ethnic cleansing as we've been made to believe.

Was it a war crime ?

No.

This is because those rounded up and shot on the orders of Murtala had been actively collaborating with the Biafra invaders.

Most people do not know that immediately after the Biafran orcs retreated from the Midwest , there were reprisal attacks carried by non Ibo Bendelites on the Ibo speaking tribes for actively conniving with the Biafran invaders.

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Re: Did Murtala Truly Commit A Massacre In Asaba ? by duro4chang(m): 11:22am On Jul 30, 2023
Do we talk of judicial killing during war?
Re: Did Murtala Truly Commit A Massacre In Asaba ? by seunmsg(m): 11:31am On Jul 30, 2023
The so called Asaba massacre was a child’s play compared to his misadventure that led to the Abagana massacre. Murtala committed worse crime against Nigeria than Biafra. Gowon should have court martial him for the way he wasted the soldiers of an entire division of the army. That guy has no business leading a troop to the war front.

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Re: Did Murtala Truly Commit A Massacre In Asaba ? by tartar9(m): 11:43am On Jul 30, 2023
Didn't even an independent panel set up later say he didn't order the massacre
Re: Did Murtala Truly Commit A Massacre In Asaba ? by successmatters(m): 11:44am On Jul 30, 2023
Divide and rule threads.

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Re: Did Murtala Truly Commit A Massacre In Asaba ? by gidgiddy: 11:45am On Jul 30, 2023
DomPerignon:
No.

It was more of extra-judiciary killings and not an ethnic cleansing as we've been made to believe.

Was it a war crime ?

No.

This is because those rounded up and shot on the orders of Murtala had been actively collaborating with the Biafra invaders.

Most people do not know that immediately after the Biafran orcs retreated from the Midwest , there were reprisal attacks carried by non Ibo Bendelites on the Ibo speaking tribes for actively conniving with the Biafran invaders.




Let me tell you something. If a Soldier captures an enemy Solder alive, and executes him, it is against the Geneva convention and a war crime

So when you are asking if lining up over one thousand civilians and shooting them dead is a war crime, regardless of who they collaborated with, it shows your level of reasoning

The Asaba massacre was not only a war crime, it was genocide. Had Nigeria been a civilised country, Murtala Mohammed and Colonel Taiwo should have been arrested and faced the death sentence

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Re: Did Murtala Truly Commit A Massacre In Asaba ? by successmatters(m): 11:45am On Jul 30, 2023
tartar9:
Didn't even an independent panel set up later say he didn't order the massacre

No, it was Obasanjo that ordered the massacre, or the guns just shot themselves,

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Re: Did Murtala Truly Commit A Massacre In Asaba ? by Phoen1X: 11:46am On Jul 30, 2023
seunmsg:
The so called Asaba massacre was a child’s play compared to his misadventure that led to the Abagana massacre. Murtala committed worse crime against Nigeria than Biafra. Gowon should have court martial him for the way he wasted the soldiers of an entire division of the army. That guy has no business leading a troop to the war front.
Dont blame him (murtala )...blame his commanders who knowingly sent him to confront his superiors without their british and russian millitary advisers arrival.

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Re: Did Murtala Truly Commit A Massacre In Asaba ? by HugeElephant(f): 11:48am On Jul 30, 2023
Everybody has a say even when they were not present when the event happened.
If you were in his shoes and had a "war thought" you'll probably make a not so nice decision.

War will always be war. There is no fairness in war. The reality will always be different from Geneva convention.

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Re: Did Murtala Truly Commit A Massacre In Asaba ? by kettykings: 11:59am On Jul 30, 2023
seunmsg:
The so called Asaba massacre was a child’s play compared to his misadventure that led to the Abagana massacre. Murtala committed worse crime against Nigeria than Biafra. Gowon should have court martial him for the way he wasted the soldiers of an entire division of the army. That guy has no business leading a troop to the war front.

Asaba massacre was a situation of Nigeria military killing unarmed civilians and innocent young men, a crime they have continued with their meaningless python dance until the tides changed.

Abagana ambush on the other hand was a little military operation of the biafran military led by an unknown major Jonathan uchendu with a handful of biafran soldiers using an improvised ogbu na igwe bomb (manufactured by the biafran RAPU) to defeat, demolish and neutralize the whole of the 2nd division of the Nigerian military backed by soviet union, Britain, Egypt, Chad, Cameroon, Niger and Arab world etc. Gracefully leaving the General murtala Mohammed and few soldiers to leave the scenery alive to tell their story at Lagos.


No military on the face of the earth has achieved similar feat except maybe for king David vs Goliath and Alexander the great against the Persian military.
General murtala Mohammed had to go on forced exile till the end of the Civil War.
These 2 are different and not similar.

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Re: Did Murtala Truly Commit A Massacre In Asaba ? by seunmsg(m): 12:01pm On Jul 30, 2023
Phoen1X:
Dont blame him (murtala )...blame his commanders who knowingly sent him to confront his superiors without their british and russian millitary advisers arrival.

Very unintelligent take. There was no superior on the other side. Murtala was just a reckless soldier whose only war strategy was listening to his spiritual marabouts. Gowon removed him immediately after the Abagana ambush and he never commanded any division again till he died.

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Re: Did Murtala Truly Commit A Massacre In Asaba ? by MASTAkiLLAh(m): 12:04pm On Jul 30, 2023
gidgiddy:


Let me tell you something. If a Soldier captures an enemy Solder alive, and executes him, it is against the Geneva convention and a war crime

So when you are asking if lining up over one thousand civilians and shooting them dead, regardless of who they collaborated with, it shows your level of reasoning

The Asaba massacre was not only a war crime, it was genocide. Had Nigeria been a civilised country, Murtala Mohammed should have been arrested and faced the death sentence
ignore the bloody bastard

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Re: Did Murtala Truly Commit A Massacre In Asaba ? by DomPerignon: 12:04pm On Jul 30, 2023
duro4chang:
Do we talk of judicial killing during war?

Well, it was a war and there are no legal definitions on how to kill the enemy.

You just kill em outside using biological or chemical weapons in civilian areas.

Chemical weapons are not banned as most people think.

They are only banned to be used in areas of high civilian concentration.
Re: Did Murtala Truly Commit A Massacre In Asaba ? by BigBlackPreek(m): 12:04pm On Jul 30, 2023
Let the dead rest in peace please!



AllahuAkbar
Re: Did Murtala Truly Commit A Massacre In Asaba ? by KGBKremlin: 12:06pm On Jul 30, 2023
DomPerignon:
No.

It was more of extra-judiciary killings and not an ethnic cleansing as we've been made to believe.

Was it a war crime ?

No.

This is because those rounded up and shot on the orders of Murtala had been actively collaborating with the Biafra invaders.

Most people do not know that immediately after the Biafran orcs retreated from the Midwest , there were reprisal attacks carried by non Ibo Bendelites on the Ibo speaking tribes for actively conniving with the Biafran invaders.




The worse one not yet to happen if Asaba like they should learn
Re: Did Murtala Truly Commit A Massacre In Asaba ? by VinnyBaba: 12:08pm On Jul 30, 2023
Of course, YES!😕

He and his Ignoramuses Blood-Thirsty Army Officers thought Kaduna Nzeogwu was an IGBO man
And when they reached Asaba (a Mid-west town), his Hometown,
they used the Jan 15 1966 Anger to Massacre Everybody. embarassed sad

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Re: Did Murtala Truly Commit A Massacre In Asaba ? by DomPerignon: 12:08pm On Jul 30, 2023
seunmsg:
The so called Asaba massacre was a child’s play compared to his misadventure that led to the Abagana massacre. Murtala committed worse crime against Nigeria than Biafra. Gowon should have court martial him for the way he wasted the soldiers of an entire division of the army. That guy has no business leading a troop to the war front.

Actually, if Murtala had not paused to maintain civil order in Asaba and had marched on to Onistha in pursuit of fleeing Biafran orcs , Biafran soldeirs won't have had the time to dig in around Onistha or blew the bridge.

I believe , Murtala wanted to prevent a total breakdown of civil order in Asaba . If he had marched on chasing fleeing Biafran orcs , the war would have ended more quicker .

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Re: Did Murtala Truly Commit A Massacre In Asaba ? by DomPerignon: 12:11pm On Jul 30, 2023
gidgiddy:


Let me tell you something. If a Soldier captures an enemy Solder alive, and executes him, it is against the Geneva convention and a war crime

So when you are asking if lining up over one thousand civilians and shooting them dead, regardless of who they collaborated with, it shows your level of reasoning

The Asaba massacre was not only a war crime, it was genocide. Had Nigeria been a civilised country, Murtala Mohammed should have been arrested and faced the death sentence

But these were not soldeirs in uniform.

The minute you change your uniform into civilian clothes deep inside enemy territory you are considered a spy and you know what punishment awaits both spies and non state actors like mercenaries - instant execution.
Re: Did Murtala Truly Commit A Massacre In Asaba ? by Emperormartin(m): 12:12pm On Jul 30, 2023
When murtala Mohammed died in a coup led by Col. Dimka the people of Asaba rejoiced...
Re: Did Murtala Truly Commit A Massacre In Asaba ? by DomPerignon: 12:14pm On Jul 30, 2023
kettykings:


Asaba massacre was a situation of Nigeria military killing unarmed civilians and innocent young men, a crime they have continued with their meaningless python dance until the tides changed.

Abagana ambush on the other hand was a little military operation of the biafran military led by an unknown major Jonathan uchendu with a handful of biafran soldiers using an improvised ogbu na igwe bomb (manufactured by the biafran RAPU) to defeat, demolish and neutralize the whole of the 2nd division of the Nigerian military backed by soviet union, Britain, Egypt, Chad, Cameroon, Niger and Arab world etc. Gracefully leaving the General murtala Mohammed and few soldiers to leave the scenery alive to tell their story at Lagos.


No military on the face of the earth has achieved similar feat except maybe for king David vs Goliath and Alexander the great against the Persian military.
General murtala Mohammed had to go on forced exile till the end of the Civil War.
These 2 are different and not similar.


Biafran soldeirs were the first to start killing civilians indiscriminately .

The occupation of Midwest by your rogue army saw to many abductions and killings of non Ibo Bendelites .

What of the trail of blood left by fleeing Biafran soldeirs after their defeat in Ore?

Your soldeirs only stopped killing civilians until they got to Onitsha .

Even during the occupation , Biafran soldeirs were killing indiscriminately any non Ibo they deemed as a saboteur.

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Re: Did Murtala Truly Commit A Massacre In Asaba ? by HugeElephant(f): 12:16pm On Jul 30, 2023
gidgiddy:


Let me tell you something. If a Soldier captures an enemy Solder alive, and executes him, it is against the Geneva convention and a war crime

So when you are asking if lining up over one thousand civilians and shooting them dead, regardless of who they collaborated with, it shows your level of reasoning

The Asaba massacre was not only a war crime, it was genocide. Had Nigeria been a civilised country, Murtala Mohammed should have been arrested and faced the death sentence

In 2020 during the lekki endsars murder spree, many said more about Tukur Yusuf Buratai, the army General. Funny Nigerians
Burutai was made an ambassador to Benin Republic

Erbody don shut up... Naa who die lose o. Nigerians are too hypocritical
Re: Did Murtala Truly Commit A Massacre In Asaba ? by Emperormartin(m): 12:20pm On Jul 30, 2023
DomPerignon:


Actually, if Murtala had not paused to maintain civil order in Asaba and had marched on to Onistha in pursuit of fleeing Biafran orcs , Biafran soldeirs won't have had the time to dig in around Onistha or blew the bridge.

I believe , Murtala wanted to prevent a total breakdown of civil order in Asaba . If he had marched on chasing fleeing Biafran orcs , the war would have ended more quicker .

He attacked Asaba specifically because he knew Chukwuemeka Nzeogwu was from there... He solely came to annihilate his people

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Re: Did Murtala Truly Commit A Massacre In Asaba ? by seunmsg(m): 12:21pm On Jul 30, 2023
DomPerignon:


Actually, if Murtala had not paused to maintain civil order in Asaba and had marched on to Onistha in pursuit of fleeing Biafran orcs , Biafran soldeirs won't have had the time to dig in around Onistha or blew the bridge.

I believe , Murtala wanted to prevent a total breakdown of civil order in Asaba . If he had marched on chasing fleeing Biafran orcs , the war would have ended more quicker .


You are even talking about the disastrous frontal crossing from Asaba to Onitsha where he lost over 1000 soldiers. Akinrinade, Shuwa etc told him not to cross directly from Asaba to Onitsha through the bridge. It is basic common sense to assume in war situation that the enemies are waiting on the other end. He failed twice while losing thousands of lives before giving up on capturing Onitsha frontally from Asaba.

The Abagana massacre was worse. How can you line up an entire division like school boys with all your weapons, vehicles, fuel, food etc and be marching them from Onitsha to Enugu as if you’re in peace time?

If Gowon had removed him after his misadventure in Onitsha, the very sad Abagana ambush wouldn’t have happened.

Good enough, Benjamin Adekunle, Godwin Isama, Alani Akinrinade, Olusegun Obasanjo etc came to rescue the situation at the war front. If not for the 3rd marine commandos, Biafra would have won the war.

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Re: Did Murtala Truly Commit A Massacre In Asaba ? by DomPerignon: 12:23pm On Jul 30, 2023
KGBKremlin:


The worse one not yet to happen if Asaba like they should learn


The Bendel Ibos were decieved by the Ibos across the Niger to support their expansionism.

The reprisal attacks that followed after the Biafran orcs were chased out was severe because all non Ibo Bendelites came to see the occupation of Midwest by Biafran soldeirs as a direct result of Ibo Bendelites collaborating with Ibos in Biafra against other non Ibo tribes.

The Biafran rogue army took their genocide to non Ibo peoples but did not touch the Bendel Ibos neither did the once amicable Bendel Ibos raise any objection on the Ibo orc army killing non Ibos.

If you even consider that all the officers surrounding the Urhobo Ejoor were Bendel Ibo and were the ones who chased Ejoor out and later opened the doors for Ojukwu's orcs to invade then you will understand why non Ibos came to resent the Ibo Bendelites .

The Zikists at Enugu even got some traditional chiefs among the Ibo to rewrite their history from Bini origins to Nri, in Anambra.

The Bendel Ibos back then messed up and that's why after the war, they began using the prefix "Bendel Ibo" to distinguish themselves from the cannibal orcs across the Niger.

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Re: Did Murtala Truly Commit A Massacre In Asaba ? by DomPerignon: 12:33pm On Jul 30, 2023
Emperormartin:

He attacked Asaba specifically because he knew Chukwuemeka Nzeogwu was from there... He solely came to annihilate his people

It was Biafran rogue army that was the first to kill civilians indiscriminately .

Their occupation of the Midwest saw to killings of non Ibos.

A similar fate of slow silent genocide was ongoing in Biafra with Ibos targeting and killing ethnic minorities and displacing them off their lands and properties.

What of the senseless killings attributed to retreating Biafran forces as they fled the battle of Ore?

Or can you tell us why Ojukwu as governor of eastern Nigeria specifically targeted Ijaw communities, bombing and shelling indiscriminately so as to get Adaka Boro to surrender .


You guys will always like to deny your own evil by pointing to others.

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Re: Did Murtala Truly Commit A Massacre In Asaba ? by aswani(m): 12:43pm On Jul 30, 2023
seunmsg:


Very unintelligent take. There was no superior on the other side. Murtala was just a reckless soldier whose only war strategy was listening to his spiritual marabouts. Gowon removed him immediately after the Abagana ambush and he never commanded any division again till he died.

You obviously know your stuff about the civil war, seunmsg.

To tag onto what you said, Murtala was a hot head who had no business leading a group of toddlers to a playground never mind soldiers to war.

Adekunle "Black scorpion" was also one of those that had to be removed mid war because he too had a poor knowledge of battle strategy.

For all the abuse that Obasanjo (rightfully) receives about his post war behaviour, he did a superb job clearing up after some rank amateurs masquerading as Commanders on the Nigerian side.

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Re: Did Murtala Truly Commit A Massacre In Asaba ? by VinnyBaba: 12:44pm On Jul 30, 2023
seunmsg:


You are even talking about the disastrous frontal crossing from Asaba to Onitsha where he lost over 1000 soldiers. Akinrinade, Shuwa etc told him not to cross directly from Asaba to Onitsha through the bridge. It is basic common sense to assume in r situation that the enemies are waiting on the other end. He failed twice while losing thousands of lives before giving up on capturing Onitsha frontally from Asaba.

The Abagana massacre was worse. How can you line up an entire division like school boys with all your weapons, vehicles, fuel, food etc and be marching them from Onitsha to Enugu as in you’re in peace time?

If Gowon had removed him after his misadventure in Onitsha, the very sad Abagana ambush wouldn’t have happened.

Good enough, Benjamin Adekunle, Godwin Isama, Alani Akinrinade, Olusegun Obasanjo etc came to rescue the situation at the war front. If not for the 3MC, Biafra would have won the war.


Hear yourself o!😏🙂

Later some of your People will say Ojukwu is a COWARD that ran away to Ivory coast. sad

But this 'Coward' used a small Biafra to Fight Nigeria to Standstill for 3 Years!

I Always tell People that Gen. Emeka OJUKWU is Arguably the GREATEST Nigerian who ever Liveth. 😊😎
Only Obasanjo and Awolowo Compares to Him!🤔🙂

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Re: Did Murtala Truly Commit A Massacre In Asaba ? by DomPerignon: 12:46pm On Jul 30, 2023
aswani:


You obviously know your stuff about the civil war, seunmsg.

To tag onto what you said, Murtala was a hot head who had no business leading a group of toddlers to a playground never mind soldiers to war.

Adekunle "Black scorpion" was also one of those that had to be removed mid war because he too had a poor knowledge of battle strategy.

For all the abuse that Obasanjo (rightfully) receives about his post war behaviour, he did a superb job clearing up after some rank amateurs masquerading as Commanders on the Nigerian side.


Obasanjo did not witness the trail of blood and destruction on hapless civilians caused by retreating Biafran soldeirs from the battle of Ore.

It's very unfortunate that the minorities of both the Midwest and Eastern Nigeria are yet to tell their own harrowing story in the hands of the barbaric Biafran orcs .

Murtala did not commit any genocide.

He rightly rounded up traitors , collaborators and Biafran soldeirs and summarily had them executed.

To me, Murtala did a wonderful job of clearing the Midwest of its Ibo Marxist filth.

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Re: Did Murtala Truly Commit A Massacre In Asaba ? by KGBKremlin: 12:47pm On Jul 30, 2023
DomPerignon:



The Bendel Ibos were decieved by the Ibos across the Niger to support their expansionism.

The reprisal attacks that followed after the Biafran orcs were chased out was severe because all non Ibo Bendelites came to see the occupation of Midwest by Biafran soldeirs as a direct result of Ibo Bendelites collaborating with Ibos in Biafra against other non Ibo tribes.

The Biafran rogue army took their genocide to non Ibo peoples but did not touch the Bendel Ibos neither did the once amicable Bendel Ibos raise any objection on the Ibo orc army killing non Ibos.

If you even consider that all the officers surrounding the Urhobo Ejoor were Bendel Ibo and were the ones who chased Ejoor out and later opened the doors for Ojukwu's orcs to invade then you will understand why non Ibos came to resent the Ibo Bendelites .

The Zikists at Enugu even got some traditional chiefs among the Ibo to rewrite their history from Bini origins to Nri, in Anambra.

The Bendel Ibos back then messed up and that's why after the war, they began using the prefix "Bendel Ibo" to distinguish themselves from the cannibal orcs across the Niger.

We knew all this same way the Igbo deceived Kaduna to carry out Igbo coup, Asaba need to be very careful Asaba doesn't belong to part of Igbo land,if not other tribes in Delta state could've not have the monopoly of ruling Delta state.

Delta state is for ethics groups just like Niger Delta.

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Re: Did Murtala Truly Commit A Massacre In Asaba ? by DomPerignon: 1:01pm On Jul 30, 2023
KGBKremlin:


We knew all this same way the Igbo deceived Kaduna to carry out Igbo coup, Asaba need to be very careful Asaba doesn't belong to part of Igbo land,if not other tribes in Delta state could've not have the monopoly of ruling Delta state.

Delta state is for ethics groups just like Niger Delta.
Nzeagwu was decieved by the poison that was going round back then known as Zikism aka Afro Marxism. So also were most Bendel Ibos during that time .

But it took an ethnic dimension after the Murtala mutiny and from there the Bendel Ibos yoked themselves to the Ibos across the Niger.

Their aspirations back then in supporting Biafra despite the declared neutrality of the Midwest was greed to control all the vast wealth of the old Bendel.

Marxism is materialism with ethnic chauvanism.

The Jewish Bolsheviks exposed this false equality because despite their false claims to liberalism, only Jews ended up in positions of power and influence in post Tsarist Russia.

Today's Biafraism isn't even cloaked with false equality rather it is driven purely by Ethnic chauvanism in the form of Ibo Zionism.

This false claims of Ibo Judaism is what is fueling another repeat of Bendel Ibos being attracted to another Biafra project.

This won't end well unless they keep that rubbish to their own parts of Delta and not try join the Ibos in repeating another annexation of any other non Ibo parts of present day Delta and Edo.

I have said my own.

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Re: Did Murtala Truly Commit A Massacre In Asaba ? by Nobody: 1:11pm On Jul 30, 2023
VinnyBaba:

Of course, YES!😕

He and his Ignoramuses Blood-Thirsty Army Officers thought Kaduna Nzeogwu was an IGBO man
And when they reached Asaba (a Mid-west town), his Hometown,
they used the Jan 15 1966 Anger to Massacre Everybody. embarassed sad


Chukwuma is an igala name? You guys with your "Asaba is iboland" and "Asaba is not iboland" (depending on the quantity of mpuri mriri you just finished, or the narrative you're trying to push) really sound comical.

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Re: Did Murtala Truly Commit A Massacre In Asaba ? by aswani(m): 1:19pm On Jul 30, 2023
DomPerignon:

The Biafran rogue army took their genocide to non Ibo peoples but did not touch the Bendel Ibos neither did the once amicable Bendel Ibos raise any objection on the Ibo orc army killing non Ibos.

I hold no brief for Bendel Ibo's, who know deep down that if you scratch the surface, those on the other side of the Niger see them as non-core* Igbos.

However, those were dark and very different times, an ordinary unsubstantiated accusation of wrongdoing (sabo etc) to patrolling army infantry men could and normally resulted in instant death to the acccused.

You had to keep your head down and effectively thank God you are not part of a group of targeted people then.

*core being a word I have heard used in that context, there might be others.

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