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The Signs Of The End Time Biblical Interpretations by Davoneskay(m): 4:33pm On Aug 10, 2023
This is my answer to a previous thread.

The problem today is that most people read the Bible like novels. To interpret what is the bible, you need the Holy Spirit. First and foremost, in the book of Proverbs Chapter 1:1 - 6, the bible was not written for the canal mind.

Not to bore you to much, the temple may mean a building but prophetically, it means your body. Not everybody's body is a temple. The Bible made it clear that our body is the temple of God. But in the book of Daniel and other books of the prophets, there is something called, 'abomination of desolation.'

Not everyone knows the meaning but several people are passing through this bondage. I am not too good at memorizing bible verses. But I will try to mention some bible verses ... Daniel 11:28 - 30 spoke about Holy Covenant and abomination of desolation likewise Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Christ spoke about it.

Now the full explanation - when you are innocent, that is, you are not into sourcery/witchcraft or worship no other God except Jehovah, you are in conformity with the holy covenant. But once you become a witch/wizard/soucerer/idol worshipper, then the abomination of desolation is your new line and your master is Satan.
In the book of Daniel 11:31, the sanctuary (that is the body, i.e. temple) got defiled by Satan who made those who forsook the holy covenant to become witches and wizards when they least expected, hence, their worship to Jehovah God cannot be accepted anymore. Hence, the writing in Daniel 11:31, "... And forces shall be mustered by him (the beast) and they shall defile the sanctuary fortress; then they shall take away the daily sacrifices, and place there the abomination of desolation."

In my next comment, I will interpret the signs of the end of time prophetically.

Please note, I am not a prophet or pastor. I am a Christian.

Cc: Kobojunkie, MaxInDHouse, Paxonel, SIRTee15, Fxmasterz, Emusan, et Al.
Re: The Signs Of The End Time Biblical Interpretations by Davoneskay(m): 4:34pm On Aug 10, 2023
In this comment, I will interpret what 666, the mark of the beast, means. I will also talk about some deep end time signs according to the books of Matthew and Mark.

Matt 24:1 -51 and Mark 13:1 - 37 spoke about the signs of the end time. But most people do not understand some certain events that will take place. These events are:

1) "Lawlessness will abound." (Matt 24:12)
2) "Abomination of desolation " (Matt24:15 - 20, Mark 13:14 - 18)

Explanation on Point 1:

In 2Thess Chapter 2, the Bible addressed the issue of the lawlessness man whose working is like that of Satan. The Antichrist is the lawless man. Satanism, witchcraft, sourcery are all forms of Antichrist. In today's world, the percentage of adults who are witches and wizards are more than those who aren't. (I know many people will come for me for this but I will proceed). Lawlessness will abound because the population of witchcraft and it's activities will be so enormous than it has ever been in previous centuries. Hence, the love of many will grow cold.

Point 2 explanations:

As explained in my previous post where I cited the book of Daniel, the abomination of desolation is sponsored the Satan. It is witchcraft. One does not need to visit a witch doctor before becoming a witch in this case of the end time. One may be in his house and next thing, discover 'overtime' that he is constantly finding himself in strange places in his dream. And before he knows what's up, it is too late to turn back. I don't know how to explained this part but some people who are witches will understand that they where in their residence and they started seeing or hearing strange things and before they could say Jack Robinson, they have already been captured into the bondage.
Those chosen by God will be excused out of this trap because they will just leave that environment in a funny way (this is deep and crazy but those chosen by God will understand). And that is how they will excape. In fact, it may be raining heavy or snowy seriously or at night when they will leave that environment at that moment (Mk 13:14-15, and Matt 24:16-18). But those who refused to leave, Matt 24:19 and Mark 13:17, WOE betides them as they will become witches.
This is prophetic and very hard to understand to some.

Now to the MARK OF THE BEAST:
Like I have said severally, I am not too good in quoting scriptures but when quoted by someone else, God will help me to explain.
The Mark of the Beast is not going to be invented by scientists or religion workers. This sign is all over the world today. All witches, idolaters, sourcerers, satanists, etc have it. I will go further. A witch is added by demons to see into the spiritual world. This demon can place itself on the head of the witch and will keep rubbing some the witch's eyes so that the witch can see into the spirit realm. A witch just need to rub his/her forehead or part of his/her head to see anything the physical eyes or mind can see or comprehend. This demon (beast) is the source of inspiration, understanding, wisdom etc to witches and wizard. It is their source of empowerment. Without it, they are dummies. This beast (demon) is the 666.

I am opened to questions and corrections. Thanks.
Re: The Signs Of The End Time Biblical Interpretations by Davoneskay(m): 4:45pm On Aug 10, 2023
Before the end of this week, I will talk about the seven churches mentioned in the Book of Revelations Chapter 1 & 2.
Re: The Signs Of The End Time Biblical Interpretations by neonly: 4:45pm On Aug 10, 2023
OP Nigeria has now is worst than HELL be guided pls
More over religion is to bring us under control
Hope you heard of aliens dat have found here on earth dis is game changer against religion
I even heard dat human are not originally from earth that they were brought by aliens
Reason how come is only human dat needs something to cover der body to generate heat to stay alive so d whole issue abt religion is questionable
Re: The Signs Of The End Time Biblical Interpretations by Kobojunkie: 5:07pm On Aug 10, 2023
Davoneskay:
■ This is my answer to a previous thread. The problem today is that most people read the Bible like novels.
To interpret what is the bible, you need the Holy Spirit. First and foremost, in the book of Proverbs Chapter 1:1 - 6, the bible was not written for the canal mind..
God never said you cannot read and comprehend scripture in the same way you read a novel so stop telling people the lie that they can't do so and still comprehend what is written. undecided

Second, Jesus Christ never gave the Holy Spirit as an interpretation tool - John 14 vs 15 - 27 & John 15 vs 26 - 27 & John 16 vs 4 - 16. Rather, Jesus Christ made clear that understanding comes instead from the Father Himself and it is given only to those who use the understanding they previously had - Matthew 10 vs 13 & Mark 4 vs 22 - 25. And He taught by way of parables -- Parable of 10 talents\Mina how only those who use the understanding they have will have more given them - Matthew 25 vs 29. undecided
Re: The Signs Of The End Time Biblical Interpretations by Kobojunkie: 5:14pm On Aug 10, 2023
Davoneskay:
■ Not to bore you to much, the temple may mean a building but prophetically, it means your body. Not everybody's body is a temple. The Bible made it clear that our body is the temple of God.
■ But in the book of Daniel and other books of the prophets, there is something called, 'abomination of desolation.' Not everyone knows the meaning but several people are passing through this bondage. I am not too good at memorizing bible verses. But I will try to mention some bible verses ... Daniel 11:28 - 30 spoke about Holy Covenant and abomination of desolation likewise Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Christ spoke about it..
1. This is wrong ! The temple of God in Jerusalem is reference to the temple of God in Jerusalem. That it is what it referred to by all of the Prophets, including Jesus Christ , as the Temple or God. undecided

2. Stop twisting scripture to give different meaning from that intended by the author himself. Right there in the book of Daniel, you are told that the terrible thing that causes desolation is in fact an army that will surround the temple of God during the last days of God's final judgement against Israel. In the book of Joel, the writer describes the army that will surround the temple in Jerusalem and zion as an army of locusts with features resembling that of a lion and in revelations they are described as having sting like that of a scorpion. All of this happened as described by the Prophets over 1900 years ago by the way. undecided
Re: The Signs Of The End Time Biblical Interpretations by Davoneskay(m): 5:23pm On Aug 10, 2023
Kobojunkie:
God never said you cannot read and comprehend scripture in the same way you read a novel so stop telling people the lie that they can't do so and still comprehend what is written. undecided

Second, Jesus Christ never gave the Holy Spirit as an interpretation tool - John 14 vs 15 - 27 & John 15 vs 26 - 27 & John 16 vs 4 - 16. Rather, Jesus Christ made clear that understanding comes instead from the Father Himself and it is given only to those who use the understanding they previously had - Matthew 10 vs 13 & Mark 4 vs 22 - 25. And He taught by way of parables -- Parable of 10 talents\Mina how only those who use the understanding they have will have more given them - Matthew 25 vs 29. undecided

The Ethiopian eunuch read the scripture severally but he could not understand until Phillip explained it to him. Also it was written in the bible that the book was written by men inspired by the Holy Spirit and therefore, mortal interpretation cannot be given to it. I again emphasize that the interpretation of the bible is by the Holy Spirit. The wisdom of men alone cannot interpret it.
Re: The Signs Of The End Time Biblical Interpretations by Davoneskay(m): 5:26pm On Aug 10, 2023
Kobojunkie:
1. This is wrong ! The temple of God in Jerusalem is reference to the temple of God in Jerusalem. That it is what it referred to by all of the Prophets, including Jesus Christ , as the Temple or God. undecided

2. Stop twisting scripture to give different meaning from that intended by the author himself. Right there in the book of Daniel, you are told that the terrible thing that causes desolation is in fact an army that will surround the temple of God during the last days of God's final judgement against Israel. In the book of Joel, the writer describes the army that will surround the temple in Jerusalem and zion as an army of locusts with features resembling that of a lion and in revelations they are described as having sting like that of a scorpion. All of this happened as described by the Prophets over 1900 years ago by the way. undecided

I am not too sure you usually read and understand the Books of the Prophets (Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, Amos etc). Jerusalem, Judah, Zion, Temple etc all have divine interpretations. Not necessarily means that which is in the present day Israel.

The army surrounding Jerusalem isn't physical armies neither Jerusalem is that which is in present day Israel.

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Re: The Signs Of The End Time Biblical Interpretations by Kobojunkie: 5:36pm On Aug 10, 2023
Davoneskay:
■ I am not too sure you usually read and understand the Books of the Prophets (Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, Amos etc). Jerusalem, Judah, Zion, Temple etc all have divine interpretations. Not necessarily means that which is in the present day Israel.
■ The army surrounding Jerusalem isn't physical armies neither Jerusalem is that which is in present day Israel.
Divine my arse! Those men wrote words in human languages that are easily comprehended by those without anterior motives and interpretations , of their own to occlude them with. undecided

2. Again, a physical army surrounded and decimated God's Temple in Jerusalem over 1900 years ago, killing 10s of thousands of people in the end, just as told by Jesus Christ and and prophets Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Joel, Amos, Isaiah, Daniel, Zechariah, Zephaniah, etc., including the book of Revelations. God's Nation of Israel was brought to an end over 1900 years ago. What exists today is man's attempt at a copy and has nothing to do with God..undecided
Re: The Signs Of The End Time Biblical Interpretations by Davoneskay(m): 5:37pm On Aug 10, 2023
neonly:
OP Nigeria has now is worst than HELL be guided pls
More over religion is to bring us under control
Hope you heard of aliens dat have found here on earth dis is game changer against religion
I even heard dat human are not originally from earth that they were brought by aliens
Reason how come is only human dat needs something to cover der body to generate heat to stay alive so d whole issue abt religion is questionable

Those are teachings to deceive the Christians. I was once deceived like that until I was almost into spiritual bondage. Such teachings are always sponsored by Satanists.
Re: The Signs Of The End Time Biblical Interpretations by Davoneskay(m): 5:41pm On Aug 10, 2023
Kobojunkie:
Divine my arse! Those men wrote words in human languages that are easily comprehended by those without anterior motives and interpretations , of their own to occlude them with. undecided

2. Again, a physical army surrounded and decimated God's Temple in Jerusalem over 1900 years ago, killing 10s of thousands of people in the end, just as told by Jesus Christ and and prophets Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Joel, Amos, Isaiah, Daniel, Zechariah, Zephaniah, etc., including the book of Revelations. God's Nation of Israel was brought to an end over 1900 years ago. What exists today is man's attempt at a copy and has nothing to do with God..undecided

Alright, I don hear.
Re: The Signs Of The End Time Biblical Interpretations by Kobojunkie: 5:42pm On Aug 10, 2023
Davoneskay:
■ Alright, I don hear.
Stop reading your own ideas which you call interpretations into the book. Rather, let the intended message of the author pass into you. undecided
Re: The Signs Of The End Time Biblical Interpretations by Davoneskay(m): 5:47pm On Aug 10, 2023
Kobojunkie:
Stop reading your own ideas which you call interpretations into the book. Rather, let the intended message of the author pass into you. undecided

Lol

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Re: The Signs Of The End Time Biblical Interpretations by paxonel(m): 6:30pm On Aug 10, 2023
Davoneskay:
This is my answer to a previous thread.

The problem today is that most people read the Bible like novels. To interpret what is the bible, you need the Holy Spirit. First and foremost, in the book of Proverbs Chapter 1:1 - 6, the bible was not written for the canal mind.

Not to bore you to much, the temple may mean a building but prophetically, it means your body. Not everybody's body is a temple. The Bible made it clear that our body is the temple of God. But in the book of Daniel and other books of the prophets, there is something called, 'abomination of desolation.'

Not everyone knows the meaning but several people are passing through this bondage. I am not too good at memorizing bible verses. But I will try to mention some bible verses ... Daniel 11:28 - 30 spoke about Holy Covenant and abomination of desolation likewise Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Christ spoke about it.

Now the full explanation - when you are innocent, that is, you are not into sourcery/witchcraft or worship no other God except Jehovah, you are in conformity with the holy covenant. But once you become a witch/wizard/soucerer/idol worshipper, then the abomination of desolation is your new line and your master is Satan.
In the book of Daniel 11:31, the sanctuary (that is the body, i.e. temple) got defiled by Satan who made those who forsook the holy covenant to become witches and wizards when they least expected, hence, their worship to Jehovah God cannot be accepted anymore. Hence, the writing in Daniel 11:31, "... And forces shall be mustered by him (the beast) and they shall defile the sanctuary fortress; then they shall take away the daily sacrifices, and place there the abomination of desolation."

In my next comment, I will interpret the signs of the end of time prophetically.

Please note, I am not a prophet or pastor. I am a Christian.

Cc: Kobojunkie, MaxInDHouse, Paxonel, SIRTee15, Fxmasterz, Emusan, et Al.
are you Jehovah witness?
Re: The Signs Of The End Time Biblical Interpretations by Davoneskay(m): 6:54pm On Aug 10, 2023
paxonel:
are you Jehovah witness?

No
Re: The Signs Of The End Time Biblical Interpretations by paxonel(m): 7:55pm On Aug 10, 2023
Davoneskay:


No
I understand that there are diffulties interpreting scriptures. That isn't enough reasons to fictionalize biblical intentions into witchcracy or demons or anything of some unrealistic sort. Rather, the bible is simply a battle of Faiths!

If you had limited your scope to only faith which is realistic, you would have been 100% correct in your view
Re: The Signs Of The End Time Biblical Interpretations by paxonel(m): 8:48pm On Aug 10, 2023
Davoneskay:

Not to bore you to much, the temple may mean a building but prophetically, it means your body.
you are perfectly correct here!
In addition to this, the temple is simply your faith which is in Christ Jesus. It is actually that mind you have to believe that Jesus is the Christ. And that mind is in your body.
The temple is simply a connection between the spirit and the body

... Daniel 11:28 - 30 spoke about Holy Covenant and abomination of desolation likewise Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Christ spoke about it.
The holy covenant and abomination of desolation spoken by Daniel was a prophecy that points to the death and resurrection of Christ which brought about the new covenant whereby ensuring that men who have Faith in Christ have eternal life.

John 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have EVERLASTING LIFE.

This is the primary reason Christ came

Now the full explanation - when you are innocent, that is, you are not into sourcery/witchcraft or worship no other God except Jehovah, you are in conformity with the holy covenant.
Rather, when you believe in Christ only, which means you are not into worshipping witchcraft/sourcery, idols, and by extension, you are not worshipping Muhammad(Islam), or Hinduism, or Buddhism or Atheism or any other faith except the Christian faith which was established through the death and resurrection of Christ. Then you are in conformity with the holy covenant spoken or prophesied by Daniel.

Because Jesus says I'm the way, the truth and the life, no man commeth to the father except through me

In the book of Daniel 11:31, the sanctuary (that is the body, i.e. temple) got defiled by Satan
that was a prophecy by Daniel which points to Jesus Christ(The sanctuary) being crucified(defiled) by the Jews(Satan)

who made those who forsook the holy covenant to become witches and wizards
I don't know where you are getting your witches and wizards from, it isn't realistic.
Rather, it is more realistic to say it makes them unbelievers

when they least expected, hence, their worship to Jehovah God cannot be accepted anymore. Hence, the writing in Daniel 11:31,
perfect!

That is the point

"... And forces shall be mustered by him (the beast) and they shall defile the sanctuary fortress; then they shall take away the daily sacrifices, and place there the abomination of desolation."
The abomination of desolation(also known as THE GREAT TRIBULATION) is just the prophecy of Daniel pointing to the suffering the disciples went through in the wilderness with Jesus without food and water, before they arrived at Jerusalem where Jesus was to be crucified.

According to Daniel, it was suppose to take about 18 months for all of that to accomplish. But the time was shortened to 6 months for the sake of the elects(the disciples like Peter, James, John and the rest who eventually became Christians.
If the time wasn't shortened, they would have all become discouraged before arriving Jerusalem where Jesus was to be crucified. Hence non of them would have been saved. Check Matthew 24:21-22

The spiritual significance of The abomination of desolation is that, just like it took the Israelites a while (40 days and 40 nights) for them to roam the wildnerness in search for the promise land to establish the old covenant, it also took a while(6 months) for the disciples and Jesus to roam the wilderness before finally arriving Jerusalem for Jesus to be crucified to establish the new covenant
Re: The Signs Of The End Time Biblical Interpretations by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:54pm On Aug 10, 2023
Instead of presenting another contradicting teachings that's not producing anything worthwhile why not present the organization that's practicing what you believe so we can see how well they're doing regarding Jesus' command to preach and teach globally! wink
Re: The Signs Of The End Time Biblical Interpretations by Davoneskay(m): 10:54pm On Aug 10, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Instead of presenting another contradicting teachings that's not producing anything worthwhile why not present the organization that's practicing what you believe so we can see how well they're doing regarding Jesus' command to preach and teach globally! wink

I will give you a comprehensive answer tomorrow on this sir. I promise.
Re: The Signs Of The End Time Biblical Interpretations by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:06am On Aug 11, 2023
Davoneskay:

I will give you a comprehensive answer tomorrow on this sir. I promise.

Remember to incorporate the followings in your response!

Jesus said false prophets will mislead many {Matthew 24:11} he himself told us how to IDENTIFY the endtime false prophets:

Be on the watch for the false prophets who come to you in sheep’s covering, but inside they are ravenous wolves. By their fruits you will recognize them. Never do people gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles, do they? Likewise, every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit. A good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, nor can a rotten tree produce fine fruit. Every tree not producing fine fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Really, then, by their fruits you will recognize those men" Matthew 7:15-20

From the above statement Jesus is telling us that the work he assigned to his disciples will be the priority of true prophets and those following them who are the fruits they produced {John 15:5} so any organization of worshipers who are not globally known for the work Jesus commissioned are not his (REAL) disciples {Act 1:8} hence those gathering such people aren't producing what is expected as fruit of Christianity therefore such gathering is headed by false prophets! Matthew 24:11 smiley
Re: The Signs Of The End Time Biblical Interpretations by FxMasterz: 7:10am On Aug 11, 2023
Davoneskay:
This is my answer to a previous thread.

The problem today is that most people read the Bible like novels. To interpret what is the bible, you need the Holy Spirit. First and foremost, in the book of Proverbs Chapter 1:1 - 6, the bible was not written for the canal mind.

Not to bore you to much, the temple may mean a building but prophetically, it means your body. Not everybody's body is a temple. The Bible made it clear that our body is the temple of God. But in the book of Daniel and other books of the prophets, there is something called, 'abomination of desolation.'

Not everyone knows the meaning but several people are passing through this bondage. I am not too good at memorizing bible verses. But I will try to mention some bible verses ... Daniel 11:28 - 30 spoke about Holy Covenant and abomination of desolation likewise Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Christ spoke about it.

Now the full explanation - when you are innocent, that is, you are not into sourcery/witchcraft or worship no other God except Jehovah, you are in conformity with the holy covenant. But once you become a witch/wizard/soucerer/idol worshipper, then the abomination of desolation is your new line and your master is Satan.
In the book of Daniel 11:31, the sanctuary (that is the body, i.e. temple) got defiled by Satan who made those who forsook the holy covenant to become witches and wizards when they least expected, hence, their worship to Jehovah God cannot be accepted anymore. Hence, the writing in Daniel 11:31, "... And forces shall be mustered by him (the beast) and they shall defile the sanctuary fortress; then they shall take away the daily sacrifices, and place there the abomination of desolation."

In my next comment, I will interpret the signs of the end of time prophetically.

Please note, I am not a prophet or pastor. I am a Christian.

Cc: Kobojunkie, MaxInDHouse, Paxonel, SIRTee15, Fxmasterz, Emusan, et Al.

You're right that the Holy Spirit is a necessary helper in interpreting the scriptures. He is the One who takes us deeper from the surface of the Word into the deep things of God.

However, you must avoid the danger of gravitating towards either of some two dangerous extremes. I find your position that scriptures have only spiritual interpretations to them very disturbing. Please be informed that all parts of scripture have their spiritual messages depending on what the Holy Spirit intends to pass across per time. Hence, different people may receive different inspiring spiritual messages from a single verse of scripture. However, while all verses carry spiritual gems, certain parts of scripture have both literal and spiritual interpretations. The Books of Daniel and Revelation are clear examples.

Yeah, the spiritual interpretations you gave are great but those are not the only spiritual messages that those passages carry. For example, Jerusalem being surrounded by armies can be used by the Holy Ghost to pass across diverse spiritual messages that may not even be contextually related. However, there's also a literal interpretation of that passage because it's actually a prophecy that has had partial fulfilment. There's a literal abomination that makes desolate - a physical and literal defilement of a physical temple. Then, there's also spiritual messages as well. There are abominations a Christian could permit in his or her body that could lead to desolations in life and destiny. There could be several other spiritual messages apart from this.

I appreciate your interpretations as they could help us look into those scriptures from some new angles. However, I need to implore you as a brother not to allow yourself to be swayed into any of the two dangerous extremes aforementioned.
Re: The Signs Of The End Time Biblical Interpretations by paxonel(m): 7:43am On Aug 11, 2023
FxMasterz:


You're right that the Holy Spirit is a necessary helper in interpreting the scriptures. He is the One who takes us deeper from the surface of the Word into the deep things of God.

However, you must avoid the danger of gravitating towards either of some two dangerous extremes. I find your position that scriptures have only spiritual interpretations to them very disturbing. Please be informed that all parts of scripture have their spiritual messages depending on what the Holy Spirit intends to pass across per time. Hence, different people may receive different inspiring spiritual messages from a single verse of scripture. However, while all verses carry spiritual gems, certain parts of scripture have both literal and spiritual interpretations. The Books of Daniel and Revelation are clear examples.

Yeah, the spiritual interpretations you gave are great but those are not the only spiritual messages that those passages carry. For example, Jerusalem being surrounded by armies can be used by the Holy Ghost to pass across diverse spiritual messages that may not even be contextually related. However, there's also a literal interpretation of that passage because it's actually a prophecy that has had partial fulfilment. There's a literal abomination that makes desolate - a physical and literal defilement of a physical temple. Then, there's also spiritual messages as well. There are abominations a Christian could permit in his or her body that could lead to desolations in life and destiny. There could be several other spiritual messages apart from this.

I appreciate your interpretations as they could help us look into those scriptures from some new angles. However, I need to implore you as a brother not to allow yourself to be swayed into any of the two dangerous extremes aforementioned.
encouraging everyone to have their own interpretation of a particular verse depending on what message the so called holy spirit intend to pass across at a time, tantamount to confusion .
And confusion was never the will of God in Christianity.
You will end up ignoring the actual message the verse is trying to portray
Re: The Signs Of The End Time Biblical Interpretations by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:21am On Aug 11, 2023
paxonel:

encouraging everyone to have their own interpretation of a particular verse depending on what message the so called holy spirit intentend to pass across at a time, tantamount to confusion . And confusion was never the will of God in Christianity. You will end up ignoring the actual message the verse is trying to portray

Jesus actually said:

I have spoken these things to you while I am still with you. But the helper, the holy spirit, which the Father will send in my name, that one will teach you all things and bring back to your minds all the things I told you". John 14:25-26

I still have many things to say to you, but you are not able to bear them now. However, when that one comes, the spirit of the truth, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak of his own initiative, but what he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things to come" John 16:12-13


Most arrogant people feel Jesus was addressing all readers of the Bible here but if so then how come he commanded his disciples to go and TEACH others what he commanded? Matthew 28:20

The Ethiopian Eunuch was READING the Bible yet he needed someone to guide him into the UNDERSTANDING of what he was reading! Act 8:31

A baptized Jew named Apollos knew the scriptures very well but other Jews had to TEACH him before he could gain accurate knowledge of the scriptures! Act 18:24-26

Today everyone just want to interpret God's word according to the inclination of their hearts {Jeremiah 17:9} that's why confusion is everywhere as groups claiming Christians are contradicting themselves and worshipers have to cross from one church to another when they're tired of where they worship yet they'll claim it's the same God they're worshiping even though the doctrines are conflicting.
Jesus referred to all these people as workers of lawlessness (iniquity) Matthew 7:21-23

Real Christians humbly submit to the same line of thought {1Corinthians 1:10; Ephesians 4:3} as they agree on what they concluded after studying God's word together {John 17:17} so they're united as one in faith {John 17:22} adhering to the teaching of those taking the lead among them! Act 2:42 compare to Hebrews 13:7, 17
Re: The Signs Of The End Time Biblical Interpretations by Emusan(m): 11:51am On Aug 11, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Most arrogant people feel Jesus was addressing all readers of the Bible here but if so then how come he commanded his disciples to go and TEACH others what he commanded? Matthew 28:20

The Ethiopian Eunuch was READING the Bible yet he needed someone to guide him into the UNDERSTANDING of what he was reading! Act 8:31

A baptized Jew named Apollos knew the scriptures very well but other Jews had to TEACH him before he could gain accurate knowledge of the scriptures! Act 18:24-26

I like this part but just that it contradicted your point below.

Today everyone just want to interpret God's word according to the inclination of their hearts {Jeremiah 17:9} that's why confusion is everywhere as groups claiming Christians are contradicting themselves and worshipers have to cross from one church to another when they're tired of where they worship yet they'll claim it's the same God they're worshiping even though the doctrines are conflicting.

Didn't Watchtower interpret God's word according to the inclination of their heart?

I know your mouth will change now.

Jesus referred to all these people as workers of lawlessness (iniquity) Matthew 7:21-23

I agreed! Which can also be said about Watchtower Society.

Real Christians humbly submit to the same line of thought {1Corinthians 1:10; Ephesians 4:3}

No! You said above that Jesus commanded the Apostles to TEACH (which you even cap it), so who taught Russell and his team?

I know you won't answer this because who ever taught Russell and his team must be a real Christian. cheesy grin

as they agree on what they concluded after studying God's word together

You're contradicting yourself, so some people can actually come together to STUDY God's word and agreed on whatever they study but you said above that NOT EVERYONE can just read and interpret God's word on their own inclination as the person MUST BE TAUGHT.

{John 17:17} so they're united as one in faith {John 17:22} adhering to the teaching of those taking the lead among them! Act 2:42 compare to Hebrews 13:7, 17

Suddenly change tune to support his gods who were not taught by anyone but only interpreting God's word in their own inclination according to him cheesy grin cheesy grin
Re: The Signs Of The End Time Biblical Interpretations by Dtruthspeaker: 5:39pm On Aug 11, 2023
Davoneskay:


The Ethiopian eunuch read the scripture severally but he could not understand until Phillip explained it to him. Also it was written in the bible that the book was written by men inspired by the Holy Spirit and therefore, mortal interpretation cannot be given to it. I again emphasize that the interpretation of the bible is by the Holy Spirit. The wisdom of men alone cannot interpret it.

Dont bother yourself with that devil
Re: The Signs Of The End Time Biblical Interpretations by Dtruthspeaker: 5:46pm On Aug 11, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Instead of presenting another contradicting teachings that's not producing anything worthwhile why not present the organization that's practicing what you believe so we can see how well they're doing regarding Jesus' command to preach and teach globally! wink

See madness.

Rather than address the post this one is talking about organization. What madness
Re: The Signs Of The End Time Biblical Interpretations by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:43pm On Aug 11, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:

See madness.
Rather than address the post this one is talking about organization. What madness

Nevertheless, someone will say: “You have faith, and I have works. Show me your faith without the works, and I will show you my faith by my works.” You believe that there is one God, do you? You are doing quite well. And yet the demons believe and shudder. But do you care to know, O empty man, that faith without works is useless? Was not Abraham our father declared righteous by works after he offered up Isaac his son on the altar? You see that his faith was active along with his works and his faith was perfected by his works, and the scripture was fulfilled that says: “Abraham put faith in Jehovah, and it was counted to him as righteousness,” and he came to be called Jehovah’s friend. You see that a man is to be declared righteous by works and not by faith alone. In the same manner, was not Raʹhab the prostitute also declared righteous by works after she received the messengers hospitably and sent them out by another way? 26 Indeed, just as the body without spirit is dead, so also faith without works is dead! James 2:18-26 grin
Re: The Signs Of The End Time Biblical Interpretations by Davoneskay(m): 10:13am On Aug 12, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


Remember to incorporate the followings in your response!

Jesus said false prophets will mislead many {Matthew 24:11} he himself told us how to IDENTIFY the endtime false prophets:

Be on the watch for the false prophets who come to you in sheep’s covering, but inside they are ravenous wolves. By their fruits you will recognize them. Never do people gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles, do they? Likewise, every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit. A good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, nor can a rotten tree produce fine fruit. Every tree not producing fine fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Really, then, by their fruits you will recognize those men" Matthew 7:15-20

From the above statement Jesus is telling us that the work he assigned to his disciples will be the priority of true prophets and those following them who are the fruits they produced {John 15:5} so any organization of worshipers who are not globally known for the work Jesus commissioned are not his (REAL) disciples {Act 1:8} hence those gathering such people aren't producing what is expected as fruit of Christianity therefore such gathering is headed by false prophets! Matthew 24:11 smiley

My brother, the Book of Acts 7:48 and Acts 17:24 - 28, stated that God cannot dwell in a house built by men. Christ Jesus spoke about a temple that will be destroyed but rebuilt in three days. I am 100% certain that you know the temple I am talking about. Your body is the temple of God. That is where God dwell when you keep all his commandments and you love him with all your body, soul, and spirit.

The Bible verses you quoted his different from modern day church practices. The disciples were not stationed at a single place nor built church and branches up and down. They were simply on the move preaching the gospel of Christ even at turbulent times and places. The prophets Elijah, Elisha, Jeremiah, Isaiah, Ezekiel, etc never built any church for worship. They were on the move constantly and signs and wonders followed them. The only people who were allowed to build temples were the Levites (story for another day cos this will bring about explanation for tithes and it will make me to deviate from the topic). Pls, read the two bible verses I quoted. Solomon built a temple as instructed by God and the LORD promised to listen and be attentive to worshippers when they are there but he will never come down and dwell therein.

In today's world, temple refers to the body of those who keep the holy covenant of God and love him with their all. Don't let any man deceive you to go to one building called church. We are no longer in that era. The scripture which says, "Do not forsake the gathering of the brethren" is not talking about going to church. The bible verse is talking about being together with your people who keep the faith of Christ, not to keep malice or anger by being absent of shunning meeting up with your people. My people may have a gathering now and if I refuse to be there because of malice, I have forsaken the gathering of my brethren because of malice.

In today's church, not everyone is your brethren. The head pastor may not even be your brethren. Note that brethren herein means those who keep the faith of Christ. The pastor may be a idolater, more than 90% of those who are gathered apart from the kids may be unclean. So are they now your brethren in Christ Jesus?

The Prophets of God and Apostles of Christ wrecked signs and wonders without building any church. Today, we have churches scattered by ordinary men who milk their sheep instead of feeding them. They can't even speak the truth against oppressive govt laws.
Re: The Signs Of The End Time Biblical Interpretations by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:50pm On Aug 12, 2023
Davoneskay:

Your body is the temple of God.
This is where you got it all wrong!

Of course Jesus was referring to the BODY when he made an illustration regarding the temple but the illustration is not about each individual rather it's the congregation as ONE BODY having many parts, the old temple was made up of bricks and other materials but this new temple is made of different individuals each with his unique ability contributing to the success of God's organization! Ephesians 4:12

So don't think it's about one person found in Deeperlife while another in RCCG and another in MFM have contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines.
NO! Each of them is practicing a totally different religions as long as they're not living by the same standard.
The BODY of Christ means people from nations far away from one another but having the same line of thought regarding what Jesus taught {John 17:22} as they rely on their study of the scriptures {John 17:17} while they pray in Jesus name for him to chairman the meeting! Matthew 18:20

So i am not the temple of God rather it's the organization as a united people working with one thought! smiley
Re: The Signs Of The End Time Biblical Interpretations by Davoneskay(m): 6:56pm On Aug 12, 2023
MaxInDHouse:

This is where you got it all wrong!

Of course Jesus was referring to the BODY when he made an illustration regarding the temple but the illustration is not about each individual rather it's the congregation as ONE BODY having many parts, the old temple was made up of bricks and other materials but this new temple is made of different individuals each with his unique ability contributing to the success of God's organization! Ephesians 4:12

So don't think it's about one person found in Deeperlife while another in RCCG and another in MFM have contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines.
NO! Each of them is practicing a totally different religions as long as they're not living by the same standard.
The BODY of Christ means people from nations far away from one another but having the same line of thought regarding what Jesus taught {John 17:22} as the rely on their study of the scriptures {John 17:17} while they pray in Jesus name for him to chairman the meeting! Matthew 18:20

So i am not the temple of God rather it's the organization as a united people working with one thought! smiley


Is it proper to pay/collect tithes?
Re: The Signs Of The End Time Biblical Interpretations by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:21pm On Aug 12, 2023
Davoneskay:

Is it proper to pay/collect tithes?

Paying of tithes? YES!
Monetarily? NO!
Collection of tithes? NO!

In the Old Covenant tithes are mandatory to keep pure worship in order, all other tribes of Israel work hard separate their profits and divide the profits into ten parts then bring to the temple one tenth of their profits to the Levites in the temple, the Levites in turn share the tithes among themselves and each Levites also pay tenth part of what they collected which will be given to widows, orphans and travelers who are within their society! Deuteronomy 14:28-29

When Jesus came as the Christ he demolished the temple spiritually speaking by offering his body as a sacrifice for sin that ends the old covenant with the Levitical priesthood so there's no need for anyone in the new covenant to pay tithes to human priests anymore rather we are to pay our tithes directly to the Christ.
How are we to pay our tithes to Christ?
He demanded our precious time to go out preaching and teaching in our neighbourhood and you know time is money so each person need to calculate how much time we spend in a week for other things then set out time to join other disciples in the work Christ Jesus commissioned, whoever fails to make a schedule for this is not paying his or her tithes to our new highpriest Christ Jesus.
So we Jehovah's Witnesses are paying our tithes directly to Christ Jesus not monetarily but with the time we spend in the ministry.

That's why i said nobody collects the tithes in our midst rather we encourage one another to make sure of the most important job given to us by our Master, Lord and King: Christ Jesus! smiley

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