casualobserver:


Google is your friend. Feel free to fact check. And while you are at it investigate why Ghaddafi was really killed for trying to create a currency for Africa.

That is nonsense . Gadaffi was killed because he was a dictator and the protest resulted from the effects of the Arab spring.
His people killed him, his 40 year rule was enough. Gadaffi didn't have the range or resources to make himself a leader of Africa or produce a single African currency. Not with the Libyan economy that wasn't that good under his watch.. You have google but seem to read fake news stop watching conspiracy theories.

casualobserver:


French west Africa is economically enslaved, English speaking west Africa is mentally enslaved.

French and English speaking West Africa are enslaved because of the people and it's leaders and not because of their former colonial masters.
They are not the only countries who were once colonised territories. There are other colonised territories doing well for themselves.
This excuse will not fly.

Some one is saying creed of speech do you have any freedom of speech in Nigeria, most of the things build by the military in Nigeria since democracy what have they really done in nigeria, since democracy have any refinary be able to work in nigeria, I wish they could take over in Nigeria also

casualobserver:


An educated man should have the initiative to make use of google and confirm or deny before coming here posting nonsense.

https://hir.harvard.edu/true-sovereignty-the-cfa-franc-and-french-influence-in-west-and-central-africa/

https://www.dw.com/en/africa-and-france-an-unfulfilled-dream-of-independence/a-54418511

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-59517501

You don’t get more credible than Harvard, BBC and DW.

You can use your brains and google. Not only are their foreign reserves held in France, their gold deposits are held in France.

Africa is bleeped because Francophone Africa is contractually enslaved and Anglophone Africa are mentally enslaved.

So why was it so difficult to post the source? You think everyone is GULLIBLE? You think educating the broke and jobless people on this nairaland will make any difference? Don't you think it's the people in strategic and position of influence that can make the real difference?

Look at the broke and jobless citizens of Niger southing Russia up and down, you think they actually make any difference? After the coup where will the money come for development?

You think it's by shouting our resources? Don't you know it takes collective efforts of intellectuals and professionals to get the raw materials to even turn it anything of economic value?

The Russia you shout about what's happening to their gas extraction process? Now the west have left the country with their skills. Africans don't have any sense to do anything.

Look at how the Chinese and Arabs have grown, did you see them at any point shout death to west during their period of growth? Didn't they make firmer and firmer agreement till they got to the point of stabilization?

Did France point a gun to the heads of the African leaders to sign those agreements? Can anything financial or economic agreement happen without 2 parties? Your black father's that are corrupt to the DNA is never ever the problem but the white man.

Why don't you actually look into the budgetary records of those slave nations and see that those nations gained from the slave master relationship. But no political will by their leaders military or civil to develop their own country and people.

Take the spill for example by shell in Niger Delta, did you know how much the USA courts forced the oil company to pay? Now the question is where did the money go after the payment was made? It's disappeared, now will you blame AMERICA for the misery of oil spilled?

casualobserver:


https://www.dw.com/en/africa-and-france-an-unfulfilled-dream-of-independence/a-54418511


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A summit of the French and all African governments was supposed to prepare the way to a new kind of relationship, but it had to be postponed due to the COVID-19 pandemic. The plan was to discuss projects and solutions for building sustainable cities and regions in Africa, so as to meet the challenges posed by the massive urbanization in the coming decades.

Nathalie Yamb is skeptical."Françafrique, Afrique-France - you can play with words, but it doesn't change the system," she said. In her opinion, relations between France and the French-speaking African countries have deteriorated further under the present French president. "I even think Emmanuel Macron is one of the worst president in that sense, that he's actually like [former French President Charles] de Gaulle. He's actually not hiding his will to forcefully maintain the relationship between Africa and France."

French soldiers standing in Camp Barkhane in MaliFrench soldiers standing in Camp Barkhane in Mali
France maintains a massive military presence in AfricaImage: picture alliance/B. Pedersen
Read more: France's Macron calls colonialism in Africa a 'grave mistake'

Small progress

Caroline Roussy agrees that the president made some mistakes when he first came into office. "For instance, when he convened the presidents of the G5 Sahel instead of going to see them." But he also took positive action, Roussy adds. "He placed Rwandan Foreign Minister Louise Mushikiwabo at the head of the International Organization of Francophonie and promised to return most of the African artifacts stored in French museums.

"If France loses Africa, France is nothing", Yamb counters. "Macron is trying to impose on Africa a relationship that Africans no longer want," she maintains. As an example, she points out the recent agreement between France and eight members of the Economic Community of West African States (ECOWAS) on replacing the CFA franc with a new West African single currency called Eco.

"The Eco is a very old Ecowas project, which France has decided to hijack. They say they're changing the system, but they're only changing the name," Yamb said. "It must be an initiative of an African government. It can't be announced, designed or planned by France."

The Western African CFA-Franc BEACThe Western African CFA-Franc BEAC
Will the end of the CFA-Franc hasten the end of Françafrique_Image: Getty Images/AFP/I. Sanogo
Read more: West African states mired in controversy over 'Eco' currency

Africa first

According to the agreement, the Central Bank of West African States (BCEAO) will no longer have to deposit half of its foreign exchange reserves with the Banque de France as was the case until now. However, the fixed parity with the euro will be maintained, allegedly to prevent inflation. At least this will put an end to remittances from Africa to France. But it will not enable an African independent monetary policy.

In the past, African countries paid up to 65% of their foreign exchange reserves into the French treasury. "It sounds incredible but African governments don't know how much money in the treasury belongs to each individual country," says researcher Ian Taylor. He accuses France of re-declaring African money as development aid for the original depositors, thereby projecting its power in the region.

"The CFA has to go. It is such a ridiculous neo-colonial stunt by the French that it should have gone 60 years ago. The first step is to try to kill CFA, to try to actually move towards true independence for Francophone Africa, which would basically kill Françafrique", Taylor sums up. 60 years after independence, the francophone countries need African elites who are prepared to put Africa first.

This is not backed by any proof though.

One thing I hate most is talking about fact based argument from the mouth of someone who has little or no idea what is going on.

The guy even said "in the past" they paid the said 65% meaning it's no longer the case today but earlier you said it like as if that is what still happens.
Read the information you share before you open your mouth on a public forum.

Ladyhippolyta88:

French and English speaking West Africa are enslaved because of the people and it's leaders and not because of their former colonial masters.
They are not the only countries who were once colonised territories. There are other colonised territories doing well for themselves.
This excuse will not fly.

You are clearly daft!

Oblongata:
That was an attempt to intimidate the coupist I guess!

You guessed it wrong, he wanted to show power and might but reality dawn on him 🕶️

Abi? E fit make our soldiers dey look Tinubu one kain eye o. Abeg o, make una stop 🤣

turmacs:
Nonsense.... The way all Nigerian media outlets including Nairaland dey air anything related to "coup", 'junta","military", nowadays, especially when it has nothing to do with us in Nigeria, I think you people need to stop... Abeg how this thing take concern us? You people should stop promoting all these nonsense on our media space, because it'll negatively affect the mind's of our military personnel's..

Wainey:
let France take my resources.
Cos in dictatorship, the dictator will still run the resources as they please and if you talk, it will be considered a coup and you might get killed. Dictators are coupists themselves but they will kill any percieved coup that wants to overthrow them

So military rule and civilian rule in Nigeria which of them do you think is better

NtoAkwaIbom:
No free speech

Do you assume theres free speech in African democracy

No fear. Asari Dokubo don form im own Wagner group. Dem go fight for us. Two hours self fight don finish.🤣🤣

slawomir:
Damnnn niggar

Who know tinubu now make he warn am

Niger get back up and friends way go help them

Burkina faso and mali dey Niger back

Even some powerful white nation dey back Niger

I hear say even wagner army from Russia dey with Niger

Our so called Nigeria Northern brothers slef love Niger
He go be like film for tinubu eye

casualobserver:


You are clearly daft!

You and the person that liked your comment are the daft ones.
If you were not a daft person you would know that Gadaffi was not killed because he wanted to form a single African currency. Same people said he wanted to form a United States of Africa hence why he was killed this one don talk say he wan form a single African currency too.

You and the idiots that peddle falsehoods because of the ugly horrors of imperialism are the daft ones.
You don't have to lie and blame the people who are not the direct cause of your problems.

Blaze14k:


So military rule and civilian rule in Nigeria which of them do you think is better

as an advocate of freedom and a man who likes to live like a bird, I love democracy.
Our problem in Nigeria is not the politicians but the masses, we give too much power to a democratic govt and when someone else stands against misgovernment, we will attack that person and attach tribal and religious sentiment.
A democratic govt isn't suppose to treat us badly if we knows the power we carry, we feel defeated even before we try. But I am hopeful that with time, we will definitely know our strength. But then this democracy is still better than a dictatorship.

Wainey:
as an advocate of freedom and a man who likes to live like a bird, I love democracy.
Our problem in Nigeria is not the politicians but the masses, we give too much power to a democratic govt and when someone else stands against misgovernment, we will attack that person and attach tribal and religious sentiment.
A democratic govt isn't suppose to treat us badly if we knows the power we carry, we feel defeated even before we try. But I am hopeful that with time, we will definitely know our strength. But then this democracy is still better than a dictatorship.

So how has this democracy u practice favoured you. I think the white feed us this narrative that democracy is the best form of governance. Look at china and Russia who don't practice democracy.

GetMeRight:


Lol. What resources from Niger that is needed by France to survive? You guys joke too much.

Have u heard uranium? Go do more research on it in respect to niger

Chucks13:
Now you can see why other leaders don't want junta anymore.

Millitary rule is all about ban, ban and ban, talk too much go to jail or face execution tha is the way. Why banning radio station in your country because it talked about a leader in another country if not madness?.

Those of you calling for coup in Nigeria simply because obi lost una dey see am? Una think say na only apc or pdp or apga or sdp go suffer am if millitary take over? Na lie infact na obidients go suffer most because dem no dey hear word obi don use cotton wool with red oil finished their work for his occultic kingdom to blocked all obidients ears.

Owu elepo

Blaze14k:


So how has this democracy u practice favoured you. I think the white feed us this narrative that democracy is the best form of governance. Look at china and Russia who don't practice democracy.

Russia practice a federal, semi-presidential republic and not a military dictatorship while China practise unitary Marxist, these system of govt follows a constitution, A military govt doesn't have a constitution.

turmacs:
Nonsense.... The way all Nigerian media outlets including Nairaland dey air anything related to "coup", 'junta","military", nowadays, especially when it has nothing to do with us in Nigeria, I think you people need to stop... Abeg how this thing take concern us? You people should stop promoting all these nonsense on our media space, because it'll negatively affect the mind's of our military personnel's..

Iwo wii

Ladyhippolyta88:

You and the person that liked your comment are the daft ones.
If you were not a daft person you would know that Gadaffi was not killed because he wanted to form a single African currency. Same people said he wanted to form a United States of Africa hence why he was killed this one don talk say he wan form a single African currency too.

You and the idiots that peddle falsehoods because of the ugly horrors of imperialism are the daft ones.
You don't have to lie and blame the people who are not the direct cause of your problems.

You are the idiot here making a fool of yourself. Every enlightened person. Knows what is going on in French speaking Africa except the mentally enslaved so called educated western larkeys of English speaking Africa defending their oppressors who think education stops when they get a certificate and would rather surrender their brains to pastors and BBN.

I am sure you know better than a professor of African studies at a prestigious university. Save yourself from your ignorance and watch this video. Though considering your brain has clearly been used to church and BBN you may find you need to take some panadol as your brain is clearly not used to intellectual stimulation.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMiLz2BMmWE

Wainey:
Russia practice a federal, semi-presidential republic and not a military dictatorship while China practise unitary Marxist, these system of govt follows a constitution, A military govt doesn't have a constitution.

I know this buh what I want u to understand is democracy from my opinion is not the best. Even people in United States and England complain about there system of governance. I believe the Niger junta will return to civil rule once they put everything in order.

What do you expect in a dictatorship before?.. they'd silence all opposing voices by any means possible and promote the ones in their favour.

Blaze14k:


I know this buh what I want u to understand is democracy from my opinion is not the best. Even people in United States and England complain about there system of governance. I believe the Niger junta will return to civil rule once they put everything in order.

going from military to democracy is not as easy as you think bro, a dictator will not want to relinquish power and if you complain on how they rule you, you could get killed.

England is not democracy either, it is more of unitary, parliamentary and constitutional monarchy.
BTW, USA doesn't complain about the system, they complain about the govt

These juntas have to be sent back to their barracks. They have been a recurrent problems in West Africa. What they know is to kill, nothing else. They are zombies, no brain. They have plundered W Africa nations. ECOWAS should form a military force like ECOMOG to send them back now

waledeji:
In the zoo y'all hoping for the tribunal to favor you 🤣🤣🤣

am not Obi.diot fake mandate reclaimer, I have never bn and I will never be

Wainey:
going from military to democracy is not as easy as you think bro, a dictator will not want to relinquish power and if you complain on how they rule you, you could get killed.

England is not democracy either, it is more of unitary, parliamentary and constitutional monarchy.
BTW, USA doesn't complain about the system, they complain about the govt

You are right tho buh ECOWAS has to back out cos any military intervention will make the situation worse than it is already.

turmacs:
Nonsense.... The way all Nigerian media outlets including Nairaland dey air anything related to "coup", 'junta","military", nowadays, especially when it has nothing to do with us in Nigeria, I think you people need to stop... Abeg how this thing take concern us? You people should stop promoting all these nonsense on our media space, because it'll negatively affect the mind's of our military personnel's..

It concerns us because if you go online and interact with people, you see people who get to suggest something like a military takeover here in Nigeria, especially among the Indomie generation. So it is not out of place to show them some of the consequences of military rule.

casualobserver:


You are the idiot here making a fool of yourself. Every enlightened person. Knows what is going on in French speaking Africa except the mentally enslaved so called educated western larkeys of English speaking Africa defending their oppressors who think education stops when they get a certificate and would rather surrender their brains to pastors and BBN.

I am sure you know better than a professor of African studies at a prestigious university. Save yourself from your ignorance and watch this video. Though considering your brain has clearly been used to church and BBN you may find you need to take some panadol as your brain is clearly not used to intellectual stimulation.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMiLz2BMmWE

Shut up both you and the professor are clueless.
Neither you nor the professor know anything that is going on in French or English West Africa. Pan Africanist clueless fools who know little or nothing on how the global world works.
Is the professor a spy or someone who worked in the know? Like you and the professor you are only giving opinions and sentiments on issues you may not know the inner workings of government or the genesis of the problem.
I don't waste my time watching nonsense you and the clueless professor should set your sights in holding your clueless leaders accountable instead of blaming your colonial masters for your misfortune.
You are idiots if you think African can currently stand on it's own. Always blaming the west for everything was it the west that told you all to elect clueless people?
Get lost.

obembet:


They will still waste the presenter


I still wonder who all this Obidient always pray for military to take over.

It is due to their hate for PBAT

France may enter into high inflation since they are serially losing their monetary territories recently.

ecolime:
And yet some of us are supporting military coups. It's either we have kids littering this forum these days or have adults with short memories.

it’s mostly kids 😂😂aswr

This their leader is always wearing bullet proof vest up and down. He doesn't want to loose guard...