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Re: Should Nigeria Limit Children Born Into Each Family In This Economy? by slam7000(m): 7:47am On Aug 28, 2023
Funny country Nigeria.
One man, four wives, more than 30 children. This man controls banditry, owns gold mining sites.

Re: Should Nigeria Limit Children Born Into Each Family In This Economy? by emmanuelewumi(m): 7:48am On Aug 28, 2023
Incognito403:

Which resources do they have in Europe? Yet they're living fine.

Our population isn't our problem. Mismanagement and neo-colonialism are our problems.


Human capital is the major resources


What is their population in Europe, our population is higher than the combined population of United kingdom, Germany and France .



Nigeria is the most populated member of OPEC and also the poorest in terms of per Capita income

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Re: Should Nigeria Limit Children Born Into Each Family In This Economy? by kingthreat(m): 7:50am On Aug 28, 2023
SocialJustice:
There's no need limiting anything. Poverty will teach any unwise family a bitter lesson. This is not even a time to get married, talk of having children.

Those who can afford it, please carry on but those that are assuming starting a family will bring financial breakthrough, safe journey too.

Hahaha. Poor man no send this your theory ooo. Their own is to born children. They don't give a Bleep if the children are hungry. At 8 years old, the children are already involved in child labour and their girl-child involved in prostitution when they start developing features.
As for me, government should come in and start arresting parents who do not take care of their children. Because if they don't take care of the children, they become a problem for the government.

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Re: Should Nigeria Limit Children Born Into Each Family In This Economy? by lordprogress: 7:52am On Aug 28, 2023
MrBroke:


You are one of this country's problem, those two countries you mentioned and Nigeria are they age mate?
China started experiencing economic growth during chairman Deng tenure as premier 1978-89, he transformed China, Uae was formed in 1971, 11 years after we gain independence but look where they are now and look where we are, we just keep giving silly excuses.

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Re: Should Nigeria Limit Children Born Into Each Family In This Economy? by lordprogress: 7:59am On Aug 28, 2023
sunboy:


Now that we have started this comparison again to our local problem let me help you.

China has a 1 child policy for many decades.
US and other western words are dealing with dwindling population, the new generation in those countries are not having kids anymore, they are embracing lgbtq+ hence, child birth in those places are not the same as compared to 50yrs ago.

If we must discuss Naija problem, let’s think of a local solution. If we just compare at all, then use Indian whos in similar situation as ours. Not always the US and any big country.
But china has a population of 1.4 billion people that's almost ×5 of our population, corruption is our major problem not population the earlier we face it the better
You talk of the 1 child policy by chairman Deng(who transformed china) but was is it the main reason for China economic growth.

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Re: Should Nigeria Limit Children Born Into Each Family In This Economy? by akslink: 8:00am On Aug 28, 2023
SocialJustice:
There's no need limiting anything. Poverty will teach any unwise family a bitter lesson. This is not even a time to get married, talk of having children.

Those who can afford it, please carry on but those that are assuming starting a family will bring financial breakthrough, safe journey too.
later them go blame government for not feeding them

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Re: Should Nigeria Limit Children Born Into Each Family In This Economy? by sunboy(m): 8:02am On Aug 28, 2023
lordprogress:

But china has a population of 1.4 billion people that's almost ×5 of our population, corruption is our major problem not population the earlier we face it the better
You talk of the 1 child policy by chairman Deng(who transformed china) but was is it the main reason for China economic growth.

Population is indeed part of our major problems. Stop comparing us to China, they literally locked themself up and over a decade, enforced population control until they got it right. Now they can better manage.

Compare us to India or Pakistan. India has large population too and they are dealing with it.

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Re: Should Nigeria Limit Children Born Into Each Family In This Economy? by smileyoo: 8:02am On Aug 28, 2023
but sincerely speaking, are we really over-populated ? i don't think so.
Nigeria 's major problems are ; corruption, moral depravity, tribal and religious bigotries, faulty foundational structures where mediocrities are shamelessly elevated above meritocracy.
if only Nigeria can have a responsible leadership that can eradicate all these societal ills, she can become a world power, within a short period.
responsible leadership is the key solution to Nigeria's ugly situations.

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Re: Should Nigeria Limit Children Born Into Each Family In This Economy? by Padipadi(m): 8:06am On Aug 28, 2023
Yes it's highly needed. And the northerners should be warned about it cos everything is politics to them.
Re: Should Nigeria Limit Children Born Into Each Family In This Economy? by MrRemedyAlagbo(m): 8:07am On Aug 28, 2023
They don't have to tell you before you get sense in this country
Re: Should Nigeria Limit Children Born Into Each Family In This Economy? by Okwyjesus(m): 8:10am On Aug 28, 2023
ideamonster:
It's no surprise that things are getting harder every year in Nigeria. Even before the subsidy removal, the cost of everyday items are on the rise.

You may have noticed that the size of bread that sold for N200 about 5 years ago now goes for N1000. This means that families today need to allocate 5 times amount of money to bread than they used to five years ago. What even makes it harder is that every year since 2015, Nigeria has added a minimum of 7 million children every year. This is more than the size of singapore. It is worth nothing that 63 million Nigerians are alive today, who had not ben born when Muhammadu Buhari was elected in 2015. And with Nigeria's current fertility rate of 5.31 children per mother, each additional birth is creating an increase in the number of people who need to be fed.

In light of the following, several people are exploring the possibility that should Nigeria place limits on child size per family similar to such a policy enacted by the government of China in the late 1970s. In the special report exploring this topic below, population scientists, policy analysts, statisticians and everyday people ask the question: Is it time for Nigeria to start limiting children born into each family in this economy?

Do you agree? Do you support it? What alternatives to such a policy exist?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9NqnySifX8


Ask Muslim north. Na them be our population growth problem.

More than three children for a man is a burden on govt / society not just the man.

We need population control laws as soon as possible.
Re: Should Nigeria Limit Children Born Into Each Family In This Economy? by Incognito403: 8:15am On Aug 28, 2023
yemex04:






Many aren't begging directly to cater for the many children they gave birth to, but what can't be denied is the obvious facts that many are indeed giving birth to children they can't properly cater for in terms proper Nutrition, Shelter, Clothing & Education. You see these categories of Children looking manourished, wearing clothes next to Rags(These are true reflection of poverty)& become serious security threats to the society & yet we all blame the Government for every of such ill.Most of such family believe it is their right for Government should feed,school,health care & shelter their [b]football team of a family for free. [/b]If the Blames must go to the Government for every ill of the Society, they it has the right make policies for the good of the Nation & educate or enforce for its implemention.
Even single people are begging and suffering. Even couples without children are struggling.
How did you arrive at this correlation between number of children and level of poverty?
My father had eight children and we're all doing good. And he was just a middle class.

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Re: Should Nigeria Limit Children Born Into Each Family In This Economy? by ruffDiamond: 8:23am On Aug 28, 2023
Pls let' them born them .. place no restrictions..let the gbola and puna breath o abeg . people go learn by fire by force angry..imagine many so called family men who can't even feed themselves well are busy knacking and siring children they'll can't take proper care of and expect them to behave and be responsible,mbanu!e no dey happen like that!e just sure me many of them go end in brothel,hotel, joints etc collecting heavy gbola from merciless men! Just to eat something!it's on the news,we already have 13 to 14 yray old Olosho mimors,yes! .too many !me ,I no dey look for 20 something yrs old again,those one donold...14 - 15 yrs are my specialty..they back Dem steady angry nonsense! The world is very coldcold and nobody go send your pikin if you no fit take care and train am well.na for outside e go collect lesson of life!
Re: Should Nigeria Limit Children Born Into Each Family In This Economy? by Godmind2022(m): 8:25am On Aug 28, 2023
[quote [code][/code][i][/i]author=SocialJustice post=125259361]There's no need limiting anything. Poverty will teach any unwise family a bitter lesson. This is not even a time to get married, talk of having children.

Those who can afford it, please carry on but those that are assuming starting a family will bring financial breakthrough, safe journey too. [/quote]

Marry, then you and your wife, head to your village or any of your choice, beg, rent or whatever for farmland, then, plant both annual crops and fruit trees. Thank me years later
Re: Should Nigeria Limit Children Born Into Each Family In This Economy? by orriyomi33(m): 8:29am On Aug 28, 2023
I think this is a topic worth discussing.
I know of a man with about 10 kids with no permanent work. And the worse is he is in his mid-thirties.
Re: Should Nigeria Limit Children Born Into Each Family In This Economy? by COMPAQ(m): 8:36am On Aug 28, 2023
ideamonster:
It's no surprise that things are getting harder every year in Nigeria. Even before the subsidy removal, the cost of everyday items are on the rise.

You may have noticed that the size of bread that sold for N200 about 5 years ago now goes for N1000. This means that families today need to allocate 5 times amount of money to bread than they used to five years ago. What even makes it harder is that every year since 2015, Nigeria has added a minimum of 7 million children every year. This is more than the size of singapore. It is worth nothing that 63 million Nigerians are alive today, who had not ben born when Muhammadu Buhari was elected in 2015. And with Nigeria's current fertility rate of 5.31 children per mother, each additional birth is creating an increase in the number of people who need to be fed.

In light of the following, several people are exploring the possibility that should Nigeria place limits on child size per family similar to such a policy enacted by the government of China in the late 1970s. In the special report exploring this topic below, population scientists, policy analysts, statisticians and everyday people ask the question: Is it time for Nigeria to start limiting children born into each family in this economy?

Do you agree? Do you support it? What alternatives to such a policy exist?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9NqnySifX8

I actually do support this! We are growing way too fast in this country. I suspect the North is contributing more to this 5.31 children per woman statistic. it is well documented that the more illiterate, the mor children women have, and this is perpetuating the cycle of illiteracy and poverty.

To break that cycle, we need to emphasize compulsory education and limiting of children per family to 2. It will be difficult to implement this with hard controls alone for a country lacking in data like Nigeria, but we need to try.

This is where NIMC and population data would come in handy if we were serious. We can say that Nigeria only recognizes the fist 2 children of every marriage for free primary education. Any children beyond 2 from the same man and wife means the couple will have to pay unsubsidized tuition for education throughout the child's primary and secondary education. Likewise access to health services. This would make people think twice before having that third child.

It would take like 10-30years for the impact to filter through to our population growth rate though. And only if implemented faithfully.

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Re: Should Nigeria Limit Children Born Into Each Family In This Economy? by COMPAQ(m): 8:37am On Aug 28, 2023
ruffDiamond:
Pls let' them born them .. place no restrictions..let the gbola and puna breath o abeg . people go learn by fire by force angry..imagine many so called family men who can't even feed themselves well are busy knacking and siring children they'll can't take proper care of and expect them to behave and be responsible,mbanu!e no dey happen like that!e just sure me many of them go end in brothel,hotel, joints etc collecting heavy gbola from merciless men! Just to eat something!it's on the news,we already have 13 to 14 yray old Olosho mimors,yes! .too many !me ,I no dey look for 20 something yrs old again,those one donold...14 - 15 yrs are my specialty..they back Dem steady angry nonsense! The world is very coldcold and nobody go send your pikin if you no fit take care and train am well.na for outside e go collect lesson of life!

Learn by fire by force wont work. All the Almajiri children of today causing nuisance by begging and even worse by being easy recruiters by Boka Haram and ISWAP, have their parents learned?
Re: Should Nigeria Limit Children Born Into Each Family In This Economy? by omolola12345(m): 8:38am On Aug 28, 2023
That preaching is for those that have a fixed source of income but for those that have 3 to 5 sources of income generation they will never agree with this write up.
Re: Should Nigeria Limit Children Born Into Each Family In This Economy? by dragon2(m): 8:40am On Aug 28, 2023
Will reducing child birth reduce corruption, graft, waste of the common wealth, poor economic planning?
Stop and watch a Nigerian T.V. station for 24hrs, what do you notice? 20 out of the 24 hrs is Spent on Politics and Personality! How Productive is that?
Do you know what Poverty is? When you do not use your time in productive pursuits you become poor.
How do you get involved in Productive activities? First you have to think about the Factors of Production.
Cheap Land, Security, Communication, Transport, Electricity, Water, Education, Copyright protection, access to low interest credit.
None of these things do our Government take seriously, only half baked. When Buhari became President one of the first things he did was to become Petroleum minister. When Tinubu started his was to end susbsidy. No one takes Production and Employment seriously. Reducing the labour force does not lead to productivity; rather a focused economic plan for industrialisation.
However, the politicians are more interested in stealing wealth for themselves without effort because they dont know how to create wealth.

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Re: Should Nigeria Limit Children Born Into Each Family In This Economy? by Meerahbel: 8:41am On Aug 28, 2023
North is one of the problems of Nigeria
slam7000:


It’s not possible for any government in Nigeria to enforce this.

Abba Yusuf, governor of Kano state recently approved N854 million for the Auren Zaruwa wedding initiative. Google it, this is recent. Nearly a billion naira was approved to people who can’t afford to pay bride price and start a family so they can marry😳😳😡😡.

How can you control or enforce family planning on these set of people??

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Re: Should Nigeria Limit Children Born Into Each Family In This Economy? by yemex04(m): 8:42am On Aug 28, 2023
Incognito403:

Even single people are begging and suffering.


It can even get worse for married with football team size children.?



Even couples without children are struggling.


Imagine the ones with football team size of Children



How did you arrive at this correlation between number of children and level of poverty?..



Father & Mother who give birth to children they are not able to properly cater for in terms of feeding, sheltering & education is an invitation for poverty.. In Nigeria, we have this category of family plenty, that is the multiplicity of poverty! It's that simple.




My father had eight children and we're all doing good. And he was just a middle class.



Your father a middle class, was able to educate you & that's why you can definitely say "we are all doing good" Moreover I didn't say " All"parents rather I said " There's nothing wrong in giving birth to 50 if you have the capacity but how do we determine who & who have the capacity.
Re: Should Nigeria Limit Children Born Into Each Family In This Economy? by Edusouls(m): 8:47am On Aug 28, 2023
Nazgul:
It's a good suggestion but religious fanatics who's religion support polygamy would protest against it.

The worst thing about the protest is that it would be done by the same poverty stricken people who can't afford to feed the children they already have. One would begin to wonder why they're bent on having more.

Those saying the government should enforce it, it's like you guys don't know how things work in Nigeria.

Every suggestion in this country no matter how good is first viewed from a religious point of view, then a tribal point of view. If it doesn't affect the religion and tribe of those ruling us, they'll give a positive nod on it. If it does, you'd be shocked that they'll sponsor rallies from the same people you're trying to help against it.

Nigeria is a lost course. Just make money and leave.
it’s pathetic my brother, u have hammered the final nail to the coffin, the country is a lost course, blacks are a natural disaster on itself

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Re: Should Nigeria Limit Children Born Into Each Family In This Economy? by newoffer: 8:47am On Aug 28, 2023
What we do in trenches. Just keep filling the vholes with juicy cream till they become babies. Vç çvcvcvcvc. Vvvvc
ednut1:
Cant be enforced . Religion will also make it impossible. Poor man has no money for any other activities so they will always nack
Re: Should Nigeria Limit Children Born Into Each Family In This Economy? by frankmoney(m): 8:51am On Aug 28, 2023
Yes !!!!
Re: Should Nigeria Limit Children Born Into Each Family In This Economy? by oluwaseyi0: 9:02am On Aug 28, 2023
lordprogress:
Misplaced priority is china and the u.s whose population is far bigger than ours but are living way better than us.
Don't just try to blame poverty on population because it is null and void from the onset.

China banned people from having more than one child, why do you think they did that?
Re: Should Nigeria Limit Children Born Into Each Family In This Economy? by SocialJustice: 9:03am On Aug 28, 2023
kingthreat:


Hahaha. Poor man no send this your theory ooo. Their own is to born children. They don't give a Bleep if the children are hungry. At 8 years old, the children are already involved in child labour and their girl-child involved in prostitution when they start developing features.
As for me, government should come in and start arresting parents who do not take care of their children. Because if they don't take care of the children, they become a problem for the government.
For this Nigeria? You want cause war? Poor people make up 90%+ of the population. You don't want that kind of crowd against you as a government. China was able to implement one child policy because it is a dictatorship.
Re: Should Nigeria Limit Children Born Into Each Family In This Economy? by kmaster007: 9:03am On Aug 28, 2023
Dem no dey tell person
Re: Should Nigeria Limit Children Born Into Each Family In This Economy? by SocialJustice: 9:04am On Aug 28, 2023
bonnyhope:


I have one good girl to give you grin
I dey line o.
Re: Should Nigeria Limit Children Born Into Each Family In This Economy? by Tonero93: 9:05am On Aug 28, 2023
The family unit is the bedrock of human freedom and embodies the sanctity of human life. No government has the power to control the number of children a couple can have. The beat the government can do is to educate married people on natural family planning.

Perhaps bad economy is not the consequence of large family but of the greed of political office holders and bad government policies.

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Re: Should Nigeria Limit Children Born Into Each Family In This Economy? by SocialJustice: 9:06am On Aug 28, 2023
MrCuteking:


You’re very right brotherly. The only issue here is that some of the children will go into robbery just to affect the stable ones.
This here is the reason Nigeria's middle class are running away especially people that come from poverty.
Re: Should Nigeria Limit Children Born Into Each Family In This Economy? by SocialJustice: 9:09am On Aug 28, 2023
Incognito403:

Weak analogy. Very weak.
1. Perhaps there's only N20 because two people are earning. In a group of 20 people, there will be twenty people earning.

2. Your analogy doesn't consider improvement in technology. If twenty people share the same resources as ten people but have better tools and skills to minimise wastage and maximize efficiency, they could be better off. This is one of the responses giving to Reverend Thomas Matheus' theory.

You give an oversimplified theory. In practice, your theory won't last a second in the arena.
😂😂😂😂Warri! You just want to argue for the sake of it. Believe whatever you want.

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